3 No Code App Builders To REPLACE Bubble (No Vendor Lock-In!)
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- Many entrepreneurs have been affected by Bubble's Price Hike.
So we decided to look into some of Bubble's Alternatives.
Here are 3 no-code web app builders you can try if you're looking for a no-code tool for your web application.
1 criterion we had while doing the research was to make sure that in case any of these tools decided to raise their price as Bubble did, you're not locked into the platform and can export your code & data anytime to move away from them.
Vendor lock-in is real.
That's one of the downsides of most no-code app builders or tools.
Tools Mentioned:
1. Wappler: wappler.io/
2. WeWeb: bit.ly/weweb-adrianchinghc
3. ShareTribe: bit.ly/3MXShzQ
4. Shopify: shopify.pxf.io/jrzQJn
5. Retool: retool.com/
6. Stacker: www.stackerhq.com/
7. NoCode.Tech: www.nocode.tech/
8. Bubble: bubble.pxf.io/DKeNdy
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You had me on the floor when you said you can use alternative where you can download code incase “if they pull a bubble” 😂
Hahahaha! Glad you got the "joke" 😏
Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information! As someone without a technical background who is gearing up to launch a product, your insights have been incredibly helpful. You've definitely helped me avoid a lot of potential challenges and headaches. Much appreciated!
Glad it was helpful!
Lovely and informative video man. You just earned a new subscriber
Thanks and welcome aboard! Stay tuned for more.
Thank you for this video. Great job.
My pleasure!
Incredible video! Very helpful and enjoyable. Just wanted to say that :)
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for being here.
this was an excellent video. thank you very much. very helpful.
Thank you for being here! Glad it helped.
Adrian great help. I'm starting on Bubble because I did not find a no code platform or tool that gives me help with database creation and hosting and also allow me to build complex apps. Sure not having access to the code it's a con but I wrote to many other no code builders and all of them answer they do not build complex apps.
So much good advise, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
thank you very much...with regards to the last user who would use a no code builder app for building specific class of app,,,can you recommend some that i could use for building an inventory management app
This is great thank you for sharing
You are so welcome
Thank you for sharing this! There is one use case for no-code I don't see mentioned enough: Highly tech founder wanting to build something very quick as an MVP and then move on to build the full product themselves or with help from a team they'd hired.
That's the use case I am in: deep technical knowledge and experience (30 years as a tech lead and software engineer).
And I am a solo founder and I hate front-end development!! So no-code for me seems like an ideal solution.
In fact, I'd even use Bubble, just for the sake of the MVP and then if the idea is validated, I'd go straight to seek funding allowing me to hire developer. Or look for a non-technical co-founder so I can focus of building the platform.
Wapler or Draftbit might actually be better than Bubble in this case!
exactly what I was thinking! I am not a developer but tech founder as well, so great to show potential investors!
What tool would be best to build a crm that can send records to external sources via json wrapper ?
Thank you!
Most welcome!
great video super informative thanks adrian. What are your thoughts on flutterflow with buildship as the backend?
Looks like a solid stack to me! I think buildship is also recommending this stack to its users so give it a try!
Great video thanks! Wondering if you have you had any experience with Voltapp and Flutterflow? What are your thoughts? Isn’t flutter flow is mostly for mobile web apps ?
Appreciate you checking out the vid! I haven't had much experience with both but the underlying framework for FlutterFlow if not mistaken is Flutter so you should be able to build cross-platform mobile apps with it. It seems like now they also support web.
@@adrianchingis Flutter best to develop a food mobile app?
Every option and recommendation you shared has been very insightful. Thanks for that.
I’m building a project management tool that will be a web app + a mobile app. Something similar to Basecamp. What would you recommend?
I know tech stack, but I don’t have developer experience/knowledge. So of course a no-code solution would be best.
flutterflow has both of these capabilities however, its mainly focused on mobile app development so its desktop development isnt as great
@@TheFunnyLlama thanks for your response my man
If you ask me, i wouldn’t build a project management tool on no code. It is way too complex for no code tools to really handle the complexity.
But if it is a simpler, more niche project management tool, perhaps you can try FlutterFlow or Draftbit. Both has web and mobile version.
@@adrianchingwhere would you recommend I build a mobile app that can handle transactions for my travel agency? I’d like to upload my products and experiences there, what do you think?
H, Very useful video, great work. I want to create a project management app. What no-code tool do you suggest?
Hey! Thanks for the question but it is way too broad for me to suggest any no code tools without much context other than just a project management app.
If it is not a complex project management tool, any of the no code tools will be sufficient to help with that. So it really depends on your use case.
Hey Adrian, I really liked your video thank you so much for your insight ! I am trying to build a fitness no code app (as quickly as possible), which software would you recommend? Thanks man, I appreciate
Thanks for watching the videos!
It's hard for me to advise without much context. Is it mobile? Is it web? What level of technical skills do you have? and a lot more things to consider.
Would suggest you watch this video and see if anything fits your bill: czcams.com/video/5aRRl1_M-BM/video.html
@@adrianching It is mobile, (background of mechanical engineer) but my coding levels are pretty low. I will watch the video that you suggested thank you for your response !
Thank you, everything is short and clear! If you sell the courses, I would like to buy them. :)
Don’t have a course. 😬 What would you like to learn if I do?
❤Love this
Thanks!
Hey. Great video.
Btw, what do you think about Flatterflow?
FlutterFlow looks really good too! Not too sure about web for them but mobile wise, i think it's also great that they offer source code download!
@@adrianching how is that done? will send you an email
@@ricardoap1 you mean for code export? All here: docs.flutterflow.io/flutter/export-flutterflow-ui-code-to-your-flutter-project
To sum it up don't have any buttons or interactions if building on bubble..lol
I have had trouble finding a solid bubble dev, cant imagine how the search will go for these other services hah. Appreciate the video Adrian, good insight!
Maybe try looking for agencies instead. Could discover some gems there.
Appreciate you being here! Thank you!
Thanks for the lesson. Accessible and easy. Where can I buy the course from you?
Don't have a course 😂
I would like to build my own CRM tool I have knowledge about full stack development which one can help me create a best CRM tool with better UI UX! Kindly help me
Thanks for the video :)
I am doing a project trying to do research on user's restaurant choice habits and want to make a web app that users use and will give a survey later on for insights. Its a restaurant discovery app for users to view like google maps restaurants in the area by cuisines, leave reviews, ratings etc. and the map would show most recommended restaurant etc based on the users reviews and what they like. I am quite new to no code and am wondering is this possible, what would you recommend. Would I be able to take the source code and submit it (for reviewers to look over and run it locally on their computers)- just a prototype app.
Is this possible with no code tools? Yes. I would say this is something you can definitely build with no code tools.
I'm not able to recommend the exact tools you should use because I don't have a clear idea of your use case and situation. But I would say most no code tools would be able to handle the requirements you laid out so my suggestion would be to try out a few tools and see what fits you.
Great video mate thanks! Since the "bubble burst" (nicely down btw ahah) i've moved my business to Voltapp- great flexibility regarding where you can put your data, and the grath system is so worth it once you get the hang of it ! No regrets there
Awesome! Never heard of Voltapp and just checked it out. Looks good. Can you export code from Voltapp?
@@adrianching Hello Adrian! Yes you can actually export your projects anywhere you want from the apple store to a private server which I think is really cool!
If you ever get around it, i'd love your feedback
What do you recommend for building an app for my business which is going to be used for accounting and billing? Basically this would be used to organise my business by bringing in few automation in terms of billing and inventory management.
Thanks for commenting! I appreciate it a lot but unfortunately, I won't be able to give a recommendation just with this high level information since I lack context. You'll have to look at what features and requirements you'll need and which app builder fits the bill.
@@adrianching Thanks. I'm in hunt for the same. Hopefully I meet the right app which meet all my requirement else will go native 😅
Dang you got it right, was going to change from bootstrap because they to have issues , the lack of support, i think it micro software fn without out us knowing it.
Hey Adrian, thanks for this video. Just one question. I have been hearing the name of Softr as no-code builder from lot of sources. If you have to choose between Wappler and Softr, which one would you go for, and why?
My situation might be very different from yours so just treat this as a suggestion but you'll need to look at what you need. I would go with Wappler because I can export code and continue working on it anytime I need to. Softr doesn't have code export so meaning you're stuck with them but can be a very good solution for non-techies or just to get something up and running quickly.
So I would also look at the situation I'm in as I make a decision.
@@adrianching Thanks for your reply. It will be very helpful.
@@tanay_sankhe Awesome!
Thank you for your video!
I'm currently trying to build an app that uses AI to track food expirations in the fridge. What would you recommend, friend?
Most welcome! Hope it helped.
Unfortunately, there's way too little info for me to recommend any tools because I'm not clear on what requirements you have and your use case.
So would suggest to check out different tools and see what fits your use case!
i cant seem to find any examples of apps created with wrappler
Great video! What platform
Would you use to make a card reading software like a tarot card software that allows users to pick and find out more about the selected card?
Probably a mobile app? If yes, then check out draftbit or flutterflow. I shared about them previously.
@@adrianching I want to put it on my website not on mobile app. What platform will allow me to design it and then take the code with me?
Wonderful content Adrian. As an agency do you think we can still offer these kind of no-code apps for a cheaper service price while still being their code-app developer let’s say on a flutter or react based project later down the line?
Of course! Why not? We’ve gotta evolve as we go too.
what about Flutterflow, can I go with it?
Flutterflow looks good too. And they allow code export so that's a strong point for me!
can we export data from bubble?
I think revamping the website front and back end is not hard but the data is a problem
Yes you can. Though I would check how extensive that is. More here: manual.bubble.io/help-guides/data/the-database/export-import-data/exporting-data
to sell one of these saas products do you need to obtain a patent and is that possible when using the likes of bubble?
Do you mean sell the SaaS products you built on these platforms? If yes, then I don't think you need a patent or license. Unless you are applying for a patent.
Hi Adrian, I'm in the UK and looking to build an app and I wonder if you do provide paid consultation and what your rate is, to build the road map to build my app? Do you have an email that we can have direct messaging? thank you, Serg
What would be the best specialized took for a mobile food app?
There isn’t one that is specifically food app but you can try out some of the no code mobile app builders out there, e.g. Draftbit, Flutterflow, etc
@@adrianching Thanks!
Hi, what your thought about webflow?
Talked about it here: czcams.com/video/llWrTTIysUI/video.html
We mostly use it for website projects and not web applications.
Hey Adrian! I want to build a food donation app with little to no coding. which tool do you recommend for this idea? It's for my project and I have somewhere 12 weeks to complete it
I shared more about no code app builder here: czcams.com/video/5aRRl1_M-BM/video.html
Check it out to see what suits you. There are many choices. Adalo, Draftbit, FlutterFlow, etc.
Just start with something like Adalo if you want to keep things simple. But I can't advise which app builder is best for you without context. So I tried to share my thought process in the video above so make sure you watch that.
I joined Bubble after it burst, so I wasn’t aware of the prices beforehand. I’m a little disappointed that I can’t move my code with me when it’s time to scale, but hopefully by then I’ll have the funds to do so.
I joined Xano to use as a backend, but they won’t allow for custom JS and I need financial calculations. Turns out Backendless has that ability.
For now, Bubble has a financial calculator plug-in, so I’m sticking with them to get my MVP completed.
Hey Czarina, out of curiosity, what type of app are you developing?
Vendor lock-in is very real and I don't like that too. But we've gotta use whatever we can to get things going so don't let that stop you.
Keep tackling the problems that come our way and keep going. That's what entrepreneurs do anyway! Good luck Czarina!
@@ashraffaridharis5570 I’m developing a marketplace & portfolio platform for mortgage note investing. I’m going to sell them to my private clients. So I need financial calculations to get yield & pricing for each asset.
@@adrianching thanks Adrian!
@@adrianchingHi Adrian Xano says they don't allow code export so isn't that vendor lock in?
Would these app builders be consider PWA?
Weweb definitely supports PWA. Not too sure about Wappler but you can reach out to the team in their community to confirm.
And a free open source no code solution (apart from hosting fees), that simply does not exist?
Some companies like Plasmic and Builder are slowly open sourcing their tool.
Reminds me of what Unity did with their pricing policy. We know how that ended!
Didn't really follow the Unity one but I'm guessing it didn't end well? Haha
what's your opinion on webflow
Wouldn’t consider Webflow an app builder, but i haven’t checked out their recent release of apps so i might be wrong.
But as a website builder, Webflow is great. In fact, I’ll be talking about Webflow in an upcoming video soon so make sure to subscribe and turn on notifications! 😉
@@adrianching actually I did subscribed just after watching two videos from your channel, your channel is a hidden gem on youtube 💯. Also include framer tool and compare it with webflow, framer is becoming the new hype.
not just price but also the storage is third party = xano
does Adalo have vendor lock-in?
Unfortunately, yes. You can't export code from Adalo so you're locked in to their platform.
@@adrianching ah no way. thank you tho! is there one you suggest that allows you to add Jam
audio?
You really funny man. Damn. You tryna kill a brother?! 😂😂😂😂😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahaha! Stay alive for more.
How much to hire you?
10mil USD. I’m kidding. Haha.
Depends on your scope and what you need so every project is different.
Reach out here if you’ve got a project you think me and my team can help: upstackstudio.com/strategy-session/
bro just show us end to end process to buidl the apps using no code in the quickest way
simplified
Thanks!
Why don't you recommend webflow
Haven't dive deeper into webflow but so far other than CMS and eCommerce feature, I would consider Webflow mainly for website instead of web application. Might work on a piece on Webflow in the future.
@adrianching okay I hear you but have a look at webflow and wized something like that will love your input, love your videos
If they pull a bubble… weeeeee 😂😂😂
Hahahaha!
Yoooo
Hiiiii
Wappler forever
Nice! 👍
To bad wappler doesn't have a free tier to have time to learn and play a bit, only 14 days free trial.
Well, you've gotta spend that 14 days well after starting then! Haha.
IMMEDIATELY SUB'D!
Bubble is ridiculous. Wtf were they thinking?
Business decision. Locking you in keeps you on the platform and they keep getting paid 🤷🏻♂️
don't use bubble
Got a video coming out soon talking about this. Stay tuned! 😉
Love your video. I am thinking about making an app, of course not by myself since would be difficult ina short time. Wanted to talk with you on how to help me. How dhould I contact you in private?
Hey Andrew! Thanks for watching the video!
Feel free to fill up this form: upstackstudio.com/strategy-session/ and my team or I will reach out to you after.