Tinkers of Temerant Unveiled | Kingkiller Chronicle Theory
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The Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss introduces us to a world rich in lore and mystery. And whether spoken of in lore or appearing at a time right when Kvothe needs them, Tinkers are one of the most mysterious and consistent entities we see in the background of Temerant. So today let's talk all about Tinkers!
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0:00 - INTRO
1:38 - Magic Spoon
3:19 - History of Tinkers
5:39 - Tinker's Debt
7:01 - Tinker Tanner
8:57 - Jax/Iax
9:50 - The University Origin
10:59 - Fae Realm
11:55 - Kvothe's Encounters
14:11 - Kvothe's Flaw
15:30 - Narrow Road
15:54 - Abenthy
16:48 - Foresight/Fae Connection
19:05 - Cthaeh
21:05 - Knowers/Angels
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congrats on 100k!
Thank you!! @@FolkishFolk
I've had Magic Spoon cereals and they are delicious! (I do wish they had more fiber, but they are yummy!)
I'm so starved for anything Kingkiller I lapped this up like rainwater in the desert. ❤
Like a safe harbor in an endless stormy sea
Prepared to stay parched, look at fans putting in more work than ole patty
Your ability to weave all the Tinker interactions together into various theories is the kind of magic that makes me come back to your channel over and over. THANK YOU!
Always happy to see your comments Bruce!! Glad you enjoy the content 😀
I mean, there's only two books
Not much to weave together yet
@@BlueRidgeBubble There are four books, if you include Slow Regard and Narrow Road, totaling over 2000 pages. I imagine it's quite tedious to scour that many pages for specific quotes and themes. Hopefully, you enjoyed the video, even if you thought making it was easy.
I'm planning on re-reading the first two books, I hope but won't hold my breath for book three.
My dear sister was reading the series and recently died, I don't know if she finished the two books but I often told her that the library in the next life contains all the finished novels that are written for the angels to read. I do enjoy all your thoughts and theories. Keep up the great work! Greetings from the south Okanagan!
I'm so sorry for your loss.😞
Thank you, She is greatly missed.@@leviackerman1799
You did good.
I am very sorry for your loss. Your comment about a heavenly library is such a comforting one, it sounds like you and your sister had a really good relationship. I find it so interesting how stories have the power to connect us, not just to each other but to those we've lost.
Revisiting the first two books is a wonderful way to honor your sister's memory. Although the wait for the third book continues, I hope you find new insights and joys while re-reading that you can hold onto and share, as if she were right there discussing every twist and turn with you. I'm definitely not holding my breath for book 3 any time soon either, but at least the journey still has a lot of value 😊
Also, wow I'm from the Okanagan as well!! Very cool! You'll often find me at Indigo or Mosaic haha 😂
Thank you Jay for the kind words. I miss my sister very much, she is greatly missed by so many. I have been a subscriber for a couple of years and often watched your other channel The Sunshine Seekers. Say hi to Kate for me. Hope to see some new videos of the wedding some day.@@CapturedInWords
I love your kingkiller videos. I know about all the issues people have regarding the series and its author but for me the inescapable truth is I just love how they're written and I love the way the story is told. It just makes me happy and for that reason I appreciate what you do.
This man singled handed trying to keep this fandom alive….
Thank you
So happy to watch a new KingKiller Chronicle video on your channel.
Thanks for watching!
New Captured in Words KKC video = Insta click. To add credence to the theory that the Tinkers are connected to the Fae, the Rothfuss approved Fae Pairs deck shows a tinker trading in the Fae.
Agree the lore will be left open, and with so much left to be resolved in book 3 it's probably for the best.
Appreciate the content as always.
Fitting into the idea that the tinker that Jax insulted ends up being the Cthaeh is the fact that he says something like "maybe cinder did me a bad turn".
Dear Mr Rothfuss,
Dude, I get it. You made an incredible world. There is literally no way to do every corner of it justice in one final book of a trilogy.
But I have great news. Kingkiller chronicles book 1-3 are allowed to be part of your Star Wars style haphazardly-decided trilogy of trilogies! Taberland prequel trilogy...
Sequel trilogy that sucks and bums us out, possibly with Kvothe drinking colorful milks
colorful milks
22 minutes YES PLEASE
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Great video!!
I also like how not even bandits do anything to tinkers, even when roads are dangerous. In Wise Man’s Fear, he says: “Thing’s aren’t so bad that anyone would dream of laying hands on a tinker.”
The tinkers are one of my favorite parts of the these books.
Same here!!
I liked the real world lore in the beginning :)
It sounds like tinkers have a Knack for knowing what people need.
I was just starting my fifth relisten of NotW and the tinker’s song interwoven with the Chandrian rhyme really had me spicious
I really needed this video, I’ve been missing The Four Corners lately. I feel that it may be time for another reread once again.
I absolutely love the Tinkers, they flesh out the world in such a great way, but of course like so much with Rothfuss they're wonderfully mysterious. My mind went straight to a link between Tinkers and the Cthaeh, giving the Tinkers a slight sinister undertone and credence to the idea of not insulting them if you want a good day. Looks like Kvothe is going to be paying thrice, when will he learn!
Great stuff man, can’t wait for wise man’s fear summary part 2
I am confident in saying no one knows the ins and outs of this series more then you. The only exception being Rothfuss himself.
Another Excellent video, thank you very much! Always love seeing KKC Theory videos :)
Thank you! Glad you enjoy them 😀 Haven\t made one of these for a while, but they always end up being some of my favorite content to make
Pissed at youtube for not giving this to me earlier!
I love this channel. Every new kingkiller video just makes me want to reread the books again and again
Happy you enjoy the content! 😁
I love your lore/theory videos, they give these books so much more depth. Thank you so much!
Excellent video =D And there's some new Fanart too! (New to me, at least)
Tom Bombadil. Somehow I think Tom would be a tinker.
He definitely would be!
@@CapturedInWordscongrats on 100k subs!!!
@@SpiDey1500 Thank you!! :)
Yay, King Killer content :) excellent video. You use hand gestures very well when speaking.
Congrats on 100k subs! Well deserved.
Thank you! 😀
I discovered your channel because of the kingkiller chronicles and become a big fan with every video I’ve watched. Congrats on the recent 100k, excited to watch the channel grow even more.
PS I really enjoy the vlog channel with your fiancé as well! I hope to see a new vid soon!
Great video! Tinkers Lore is one of the best in the books! So many possible theories!
Excellent video.
I think Kvothe will not interact with a Tinker in book three as, It'll never be published.😅
Yayyyy your back again with some more kinglier chronicle lore it feels like it’s been forever 👍
Definitely been a while since I made any Kingkiller stuff, but it feels good to be back! These are some of my favorite videos to make :)
Great video. The thinker are so interesting
Yay! More Kingkiller videos 😊
This was an amazing video.
Great video. Cheers bud!
"Punched a tinker???"
Yeah, the Tinkers are pretty cool! How they are described and this idea of them having a deeper understanding of the word makes me think of how Auri gives items to Kvothe, but also how he does it too to some extent. It may hint at the Sleeping Mind being at least partially awake I think :)
We back babyyyy
Loved this video thanks. Well it’s been about 3 months- time to re-listen to name of the wind and wise man’s fear for the 114th time.
I do believe it could be released this year. Him publishing the novella is a good sign, despite his faults and behavior. He's getting back into the writing world again. Yeah sure, it was a re-run of his earlier short story, but you can't deny the fact that it was beautifully composed and a brilliant tale. He hasn't updated in the last few months. It is possible it will come out. I don't have false hope, even if it's not until November or December this year, still...it's a good sign.
I'm extremely needed of the third book. I can not wait anymore
In Hespe's story there's this: “I will leave you with the broken house,” Jax said. “That is something. Though it will be up to you to mend it.”
If the 'broken house' is Temerant, then the Tinker's are there to fix what Iax left behind.
Fantastic!
Thank you ✨
Amazing video man. Its my favorite series and I forgive Patrick for the time gap on book 3. No series comes close to the poetic depth of this world. You do a great job editing and adding in fan art! It's incredible how often you add a new visual throughout these theory videos. Ive listened to the series 4 times now and I am nowhere near as knowledgeable.. How many times have you read them?! Is there a way to get those coins that were sent to you?
great content! thx
Glad you liked it!
My guy is out here, making cake from crumbs. Thank you.
Great video as always. I was just wondering which AMA you're referring to at 7:40 (where Pat mentioned a hidden verse of Tinker Tanner in Book 1)?
LOOOOVE ur vids but WMF in depth summary pt 2 when?? D:
Bro there is no one out there knowing better about those series than you 🚀.
You should think about writing the third book and publish it online or sell it. I would be the first in the queue 🎉
I haven’t watched it yet but I’m excited for a theory about tinkers
considering 21:05, according to Felurian, Jax's stealing of the moon sparked the creation war, so considering the story starts with a tinker, they definitely should predate the war.
I loved the choice of herr maneligg as background music.
Great content in the video! The intro was a bit loud compared with the rest though.
Just a few days ago I thought there could be some new kkc stuff out there but also I thought all the stuff is already out there and there isn't anything left...
But this part about the tinkers is so enormous in scope without even thought about them just one single time...
It's just incredible what Rothfuss has invented with this series ... it's so great and complex and incredible...
that I assuming maybe Rothfuss himself get help from spiritual beings...
If you have ever read real occult or magical books, there are some which teach you how to get access to spiritual beings - and there are special beings for special purposes --> like writing book about magic or occult subjects...
Even Rothfuss understanding of all the magical topics he is writibg about is very accurate... naming, sygaldry(rune), sympathie...
At least he is very deep in occult studies...
And why not, almost every known great achiever is Freemason...
Goethe, Einstein, Rudolph Steiner, Nicola Tesla ... just to name few
And all the great leaders today are Freemason to... Every American leader even Germany Merkel and Scholz and Putin are in the same Eurasien Freemason Loge... just to think about....
Recommend the three books from Franz Bardon
1. Initiation Into Hermetics
2. The Practice of Magical Evocation
3. The Key to the True Kabbalah
In the 2 book he teaches and reveals hundreds of spiritual beings from our solar system - and how they can help you or at least an well studied Adept.
And there I have read about 3 or 4 of them which help with writings, especially good for magical or occult topics...
Cthaeh a tinker!? Interesting.
I love so much how ai picgens support ur videostyle! The fit in seemless. 😊
good job! 👏👏📖
Thank you! 😃
The tinker meeting with Jax before he stole the moon suggests that Tinkers are not fae since the Faen realm wasn’t created yet. Otherwise, 10/10 video
Falurian existed before the moon was stolen. Cthae did too (though possibly not as a tree), as did tinkers.
Some Fae creatures and peoples seem to predate the Faen relm and the shapers. Some don't.
Great, a new video! Whole 23 captured minutes...
I god I really have been craving the name of the wind videos
Yes, I notice the tinker is in a forsaken corner, and trades for an item that later becomes important. Divine intervention?
The theory of tinkers being of the Fae is mindblowing to me. Never though about that but it makes so much sense!! However it leaves an interesting question... If the tinkers are of the Fae, then does that mean that the Fae never came from the Fae realm, as that was only created after Jax unfolded it from the tinkers pack? If that is the case, then where did they come from? Maybe they always had their realm but somehow managed to fold it up somehow, waiting for the right person to open it back up...
Felurian existed before the Fae Relm, the faen stars, the creation war, and the story of Jax. She mentions one of the 8 cities.
I think much of the fae people's existed alongside the rest of the world... Some additional Fae creatures were created by the shapers when the relm was, some Faen were altered/shaped, others were as they still are, but travelled into the Fae as the creation war raged and made the four corners more of a hostile place to them
Pure speculation, but Drackus seem like something Fae that could co-exist before the Faen Realm, Scrailings seem artificial and more like a weaponisation for the creation war. Angels are a weaponisation of humans (non fae becoming fae)
If this theory was true, how could tinkers manage to handle iron, or items made of iron?
help i watched all of your kingkiller videos but can't find the one which analysed the frame story in detail. such as theories on Devan Lochees. which video was that?
Hmm, Tinkers as well might be Sithe in disguise, travelling and mending (tinkering) the world: mildly reducing the harm introduced by the Cthaeh.
When Kvothe talked to the Cthaeh, all Sithe just were out there tinkering, so Kvothe didn't meet them
It's actually weird to see Patrick Rothfuss used real cultures in fantasy. I'm about to read the kingkiller stories and didn't know he did this. I have friends who are Irish Travellers (also called Tinkers). They are the last of the Gaels, a semi nomadic culture who foresaw the future, were poets and bards, warriors and kings and queens of Ireland and the Scottish highlands, and were definitely connected to the Fae (Tuatha Dé Danann). So who are the Tinkers?... my guess is they are humans (Gaels) with strong links to faeries and probably with faerie blood lines in their ancestry. Their animals could be Fae, who are shapeshifters after all. Gaels/Tinkers have a close kinship with the land and their animals, keeping genealogies for thousands of years of people, horses, hounds etc. The Gaels had 'bean sídhe' (banshee) who foresaw the future, based on their Goddesses (the Mór Ríoghan, Macha, Badhbh, Ériu etc. who became Fae), and these gifts were practiced by the people of Éire (probably still are). So the weird thing is that this culture isn't a fantasy culture but a real living culture today... it isn't even history - as Anglo cultures would define it. In saying all that, despite the cultural appropriation, I'm still looking forward to reading the books.
Taborlin is Lanre. Lanre went to the University. Why? Maybe to learn how to change reality to bring back Lyra.
"Tabor (Great in Temic?) + Lanre (but shortened) = Taborlin" is my thought. It might parallel Tamerlane, Tamor the Lame.
These Tinkers wouldn't happen to know the Way of the Leaf, would they? Asking as a Wheel of Time fan.
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When will you read Doors of Stone?
Yeah Mr captured ,why haven’t you read doors of stone? You lazy or something?
I'm still working on summoning it out of the nameless void
I see Sons of darkness in the background. Can you please make a video about it! It is one of my favourite books!
Will definitely make a video on it at some point! Such a great book!
So with Tinkers being important to the world of Temerant...are Tanners also important? They all know the song.
The t-word is still an offensive term in Ireland. Always found it wrong that Rothfuss named the Temerant that.
yessss
I kind of got the impression that skilled namers like Elodin, Auri, and Puppet have some kind of foreknowledge of the future. Even old Ben has some foresight into what kind of man Kvothe could possibly become, even though he was probably too young to have truly been set down a path in life. Perhaps as you grow older, your true name becomes more set in stone (🙃🙂🙃🙂🙃), making it easier to see what paths your life might take. Tinkers seem to be able to have that same sort of power, though much it is either much more muted than a master namers, or so much greater that they know to be humble and wise about how they use it. Otherwise they could set terrible events into motion like the cthaeh. Hey, what if the cthaeh is just a really pissed off tinker?
Edit: should have finished the video first😂
Didn’t one of the tinkers offer to sell Kvothe a copper sword? I’m gonna go back and look. In one of your videos you said that was something he needs to defeat the Chandrian?
I agree with you that the Tinkers and the Cthaeh are probably the same kind of being. There seems to have been tinkers before the creation of the far realm, so they can't all have been fae. Maybe it's a tradition started by angels/ruach and continued by fae? Spend a decade or two helping humans while building your resume and saving up for that really nice tree you want to make your lair in?
I just loled and a tahlins cassock joke hahaha
I’ve criticized you in the past for only going to the most surface level for these videos (I was very disappointed with your WMF and NOTW breakdowns in specific) but you took a break and this video here after that break is really well done best work you have done in a long time keep it up like this
Have you done more in depth videos we can watch?
@@mackereljones7854 why because I told him he did a good job your fuckin bum
I wanna point out that if you cut out the narrative lines and only reason Kvothe's spoken words, it's still a working Limerick because stop is a near-rhyme for rock. I like the idea that Kvothe couldn't NOT finish the rhyme for whatever reason, be it because he's got some kind of geas on him as a Chandrian or just because it would have annoyed him
They travel 'enshaden' so have faerie cloaks somehow, interesting
They are RPG merchants that unlock side missions. That's right ..this all takes place in a game.
The Tinkers are a branch of the Faceless Men :)
It seems tinkers try to do good, so to me it seems unlikely that they are related ditectly to the cthaeh. On the other hand, Auri seems to have an idea where an object should be, and I would say that is based on something real inside the kkc universe, and to me the tinkers do something similar, except that they now who should have something. And probably they don't know why.
The hermit in the cave is almost certainly Tekham, who is always depicted preaching from the mouth of his cave
I don’t think the tinkers are fae ,or I would be dissatisfied if they were I think they are their own thing and I don’t think they see the future just have a knack for offering what someone needs . Also are there any other character that turns down a tinkers suggestion besides Kvothe? I like that they are a mystery ,maybe ancient beings in a guild forever wandering .
Such a shame we’ll never know
I love your videos. I found you because of Reddit long ago. Why don't you cross post to Reddit now? Is it a 'self promotion' issue?
I'm happy to hear that :) That's awesome you found the channel because of Reddit! I've talked to some of the mods on the subreddit that are totally okay with me posting on there and have encouraged me too in the past, however, at some point last year whenever I tried to share a Kingkiller video on there it would get taken down. I just tried sharing this Tinker one today and the post even got some positive comments on it but then one of the mods took it down. So I'm not sure if there's a new mod that just doesn't like me sharing my videos or what 😅
@@CapturedInWordsThis is beyond disappointing.
I'm wondering how much longer your passion for KKC will stay with you. Because, honestly, I'm running low on c*ap to give about the series. It's like a friend you love but they keep ghosting you. For years on end.
Not sure yet, my passion has dwindled a bit which is why I don't make Kingkiller videos as much as I use to but I still always end up enjoying making videos like this and diving into theories. But of course, there's only so many things to make theories on so eventually I'm sure the passion will run out
Don't care what anyone says. Kingkiller Chroniques is much better than Harry Potter.
How strange is that ! Scotland is the only country in Britain where people still have the right to roam and camp
Concerning your sponsorship: adult ingredients makes it sound kinda weird
I hate the fact Rothfuss uses the term tinker for what is effectively travelling sales people. Its a really offensive word for European gypsy and travellers. There are so many other names he could have used.
I like your videos and seem like a nice fellow....but the "baeg" and "maegnet' pronunciation is killing me.
I'm Canadian, and sometimes we pronounce things a little differently lol. To me that is the normal way to say it and everyone around me says it that way too
@@CapturedInWords ah, Thanks for reply...im a fan of regional dialects, its just odd to most. Americans maybe. Most of what I know about Canada comes from Mike Meyers and the McKenzie brothers. So keep up the good work, ah, you hoser.