Hijacking Reality - Panel Discussion on the Practice and Impact of Russian Disinformation Techniques
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- The Putin regime has exploited the vulnerabilities of global social media platforms, using bots and trolls to promote its narratives. They also use it for coercive manipulation to change public attitudes towards Ukraine aid, and to cause fear, indecision, hesitation and caution among politicians and geo-political commentators. But Russia is not alone in using these methods; once developed the same techniques can be used by other powers, international and local to subvert democratic institutions and to warp public perception of the news and politics in their countries. And in a year of numerous elections, Russian multi-front aggression including info and Cyber poses an enormous threat.
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Gundars Bergmanis-Korāts - Principal Scientist at NATO StratCom COE
Dr. Gundars Bergmanis-Korats is a Principal Scientist at the NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence (StratCom COE). He holds a PhD in Signal and Image Processing from the University of Lorraine in France. In his role, Gundars concentrates on projects that explore the diverse applications of artificial intelligence (AI) in strategic communications, analysing the risks and opportunities presented by this technology from multiple perspectives, including those of defenders and malicious actors. He also oversees the content delivery of training courses, such as Online and Social Media Analytics and AI for Communicators
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Dmytro Plieshakov who is founder and CEO at Osavul. His work focuses on countering disinformation and influence operations using AI technologies.
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Excellent job. Thank you, Gents.
👍👍👍 I always look out for your comments!
Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Insightful as always. I'm only vaguely aware of some of these issues so it's great to hear from the people working on them day to day.
Thank you, Jonathan.
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Awesome interview again 🇵🇹🙏👏🔝
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"The more problems exist in a country/society the easier to manipulate the citizens"... > That's exactly the FSB/KGB-playbook !! < So; you have to be able to overview the whole procedure via analysis-skills. Great episode Jonathen
Terrific
Thank you for your program
The major social media platforms are deleting comments that are anything but controversial, yet other comments that are probable false remain.
Laying off the very people with expertise in disinformation has to be an HR nightmare now.
Shareholders, are they the reason? I can't think of any other.
Now to see if this innocuous comment is removed.🙄
13 hours later and your comment survives! I don’t hold my breath for my comment, it’s only 10 minutes old! Jonathan is Awesome!!! 🇺🇦🔱🇺🇦🔱🇺🇦🔱
I suspect incompetence more than malice is to blame here. You spend a few days staring at CZcams comments and the agitators become more and more transparent.
That is happening not just in open platforms like youtube, but in the comment sections of digital diaries and such. Russian and Indian trolls are massively present, their comment very visible, while the rest of people, the real users, get delated or banned if their comments are not totally innocuous. Sometimes it feels as if the mass media, and people behind it (mostly tech billionaires), is aligned with Russia in a twisted way.
@@GrahamCStrouse This phenomena is waaaaaay too prominent as for being mere incompetence. For sure the automatic system delates things by mistake, but the contrast between the huge visibility and un-banned comments of trolls and the total restriction of real users is too big. If it were incompetence it would affect to both, trolls and real users, but it only seems to affect real users.
Actually I wrote a comment agreeing with you and adding more nuances, and it got deleted!
Like and comment as important topic for masses to know
The internet is the new Wild West.
Massive reform and regulation is needed by governments to make sure free speech is protected from countries that have no free speech and then weaponise our core values, systems and free speech.
If the law said I need to use my own name to post what I think online, I would think twice… That I think has benefits to everyone and especially me!
You would need to use more than your name to post because several people around the world have the same name.
By the way, Gundars Bergmanis-Korāts is Latvian. The Baltic countries and people are very active but it often doesn't get noticed because their nationality, or the country of origin of the project, isn't mentioned. Did you know that NordVPN is Lithuanian and Bolt is Estonian?
I did know these! But I agree, it’s often not common knowledge.
On the global scale Latvians are one of the leading in information technologies and programming. Latvian teams often are in top 3 in hacking competitions. In past years Latvian cyber security has notably improved. I remember 10 years ago in Latvian military there were very few people who understand a lot about computers and programs. Today it is the other way around.
@@SiliconCurtainThe Baltics have basically evolved into Europe’s version of Silicon Valley.
important. 👍
Social media is certainly not helping.
I told Marjorie Taylor Greene she has no friends and I was the only person in the world to respond to her you tube account
I saw one comment by you on another program .. your comment had impact. What is also impressive is your ability to give space to many intelligent guests. I like your HI approach not AI.
Treaties Russia signed to respect the independence and the borders of Ukraine. For example:
1) The Minsk Agreement (December 1991)
2) The Budapest Memorandum (1994)
3) The Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation (1997)
4) The Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet (1997) - Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea was in violation of this one and of the extension from 2010
In exchange for giving up their nukes, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum. After the Soviet Union collapsed Ukraine was the third largest nuclear power in the world for a short time. Russia attacked a sovereign Ukraine twice. Their words mean nothing.
Papper 🧻...
You are totally right. 💙💛🌻🦋
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Still in the catch-up mode we could have a Ministry of Defence rather than a ministry of truth.
czcams.com/play/PLx9xLMtdDDwlEp3tJk_hmlCLuBnXlLOzk.html&si=Jh4-SQndOKUAys-u
This is a playlist I put together detailing the religious roots of Russia's war against Ukraine.
"Holy Rus" and "we are brothers" sounds harmless, until you know what it means.
Holy Rus is the "Union of Belarus, Ukraine and Russia".
A holy war to reunite a wayward holy part of Holy Rus is how "we are brothers" can be uttered with such violent intent.
To quote a Russian Orthodox priest on Russian media:
"we don't hate Ukrainians. They're our brothers, and they are sick. In love we must cure them from this "Ukrainianess" that's gone on for too long. It's like drawing worms and pus from an infected limb. For their own good and for ours the word Ukraine must disappear, so we can reunite Holy Rus. This is how we will heal the holy body."
It's very tsarist. Very Russian Orthodox.
The third video in the playlist is about the Russian Orthodox military Cathedral. It celebrates the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany and contains holy relics of the defeated Nazis.
Victory Day cult mixed with the cult of Holy Rus.
The Russian Orthodox Church is a special sort of Frankenstein's monster of churches.
To quote a critical Russian priest: "our altar is not dedicated to Christ. Not to Christ's victory, but to something different."
The altar of the Russian Orthodox Church is dedicated to the Victory of Holy Rus - the union of Belarus, Ukraine and Russia - whether Ukrainians want it or not.
It certainly is a holy /unholy war globally. Thank you for your post and clarification. God help us all from these psychopaths.
@@KatyYoder-cq1kc thank you for reading it! Do share with anyone you can!
I'm an American Christian and generally a Conservative Republican, BUT I also spent a few years teaching English in Russia and spent time in Eastern Europe in places like Estonia and Ukraine. The narrative that a lot of American conservatives and Christians in particular have adopted is very distressing to me. Needless to say, I'm very alarmed by a potential Trump administration, given the voices that seem to be the most prominent.
I Wonder how much Mr Lavrov knows about all the Putins .
I find it disgusting that profiles on CZcams can be anonymous.
If CZcams implement verification of real profiles, used full name as username and included profile picture,I belive that would help mitigate the propaganda, misinformation and hatred.
It's not true, you have to be on Facebook with your own name and picture and yet it's full of bots and trolls, and it wouldn't even affect the tone of the conversations, because elsewhere on social media, where you have to have your own name, it's the same crap as here, it would help if this ridiculous platform actually moderated things in a way other than with a rogue ai bot, which mostly deletes factual comments, but lets you repeat the Kremlin thousand times debunked lies,
This would also mean people at risk from government reprisals in authoritarian countries would not be able to freely post.
@@erichert1001 Didn't think about that. But I still think the net total would be positive.
Also, there are meany very outspoken anti Putin people posting in full name. I haven't come back across the any annomumys accounts posting revealing information, have you?
in my opinion, it is also at least a questionable behavior of you tube that some of the comments defending Ukraine/criticizing the activities of the rogue state are left unpublished when they are written in English, but when you use google translator and translate them into the language of the rogue state, they are published in a second, even though the content is one hundred percent the same. And I'm not the only person who has noticed this, the other day this happened to me with three consecutive comments
@@Finnishguy777 totally agree. Wow, is that for real? I belive social media platforms need to take a more editorial approach to managing comments, as it has become a tool for propaganda and actually a toolbar for warfare.
The United Stated would like to borrow Mr. Fink to moderate some upcoming ... discussions.
The mind boggles, will AI bots be having discussions and arguments with AI bots.
Ah, resilience, yes, this is interesting idea. I'm glad that Mr.Guntar remind us about Information Domain. There are many answers in this words. But first we must remember, Domain of what is it? It is Domain of Warfare. Same as Land, Water, Air and even Space. As a citizen of Kyiv, I know very well what cross-domain interaction looks like. Saw it many times. So that is the answer - foreign malicious actors in the Information Domain may (and should) encounter actors from other Domain of Warfare. Ask Ryan McBeth for example. Hi can explain it from technical point of view, and from intelligence point of view too.
Another point that i want to point is that this "fight for minds" happens inside minds of target group - UK/EU/US citizens. This fight is going on your territory already. And it will stay there until western will to project power will be bordered by internationally recognized borders.
interesting wording you use, not all of it is easy to grasp, such as your last line. Would love a rewrite or elabortion on that last line, please
@@18_rabbit English is my third language. I can google translate this message for you (ENG->UKR->ENG)
"Another point I want to make is that this 'battle for minds' is taking place in the minds of the target audience - UK/EU/US citizens. This fight is already going on in your territory. And it will remain there as long as the West's desire to project power is not limited by internationally recognized borders."
Main idea is that while you defending your position, fight is going on your territory. It doesn't matter do we talk about kinetic warfare or informational influence, it happens where you live, in your home. So all collateral and direct damage happens there too.
If the parties cannot reach any agreement, there are only two ways to reduce the damage to your territory - to move the fight to the opponent's territory or to stop recognizing this territory as yours - aka capitulaion.
Corporations doing this everyday
Maybe there is more than one Laptog and Mr Lavrov has a double
And you can't have a conversation with any of the Putins so how do you communicate with people that will not communicate
best question of all
i find it can be useful to conceptualize computing as fundamentally consisting of input -> processing -> output, & ai as expanding the processing potential through increasingly autonomous pattern-matching capability. i think this can help those with limited technical knowledge to easily locate the core issue, enabling them to meaningfully take part in more detailed conversations without becoming overwhelmed by terms of art that can otherwise appear somewhat without clear fixings :)
i think the fact that there's a failure of understanding at a conceptual level is suggested by the general response to biden's debate, & also the behaviour of the various press corps more widely. there really doesn't appear any public recognition on the part of cable news networks that hostile powers are - without the slightest doubt - training the pattern-seeking & pattern-matching potential of ai on public statements of politicians. with that in mind, a slick debater could be playing right into their hands. & because we don't understand ai as first-&-foremost revolutionizing patterning, we seem doomed to be trapped
@@millrace32 i'd love some elaboration on that! fascinating about pattern-seeking/recog visavis stmts of politicians
Jonathan (sorry !)
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If I do not agree with your truth I should be ....................
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You tube don ai bot has gone mad, it literally delete comments all the time all the channels, this same issue has been discussed on every channel that is in any way even remotely related to the topic, and it even removes comments that say, for example, just have a good day people, etc.
the reason is the election
@@NathansHVAC touché
Maybe interesting, but I just don't want to listen to ai grifters.
Bye bye.
❤❤❤ you should know everything there is to know about fake news ..... you produce lots of it ❤❤❤
Russian bot alert ‼️
naaah, pretty sure Jonathan's humanist compassionate values are quite clearly producing the most authentic news of deep context, we have ever heard visavis the former USSR world. Duh. Perhaps read some history in internationally-respected books/sources, learn things and then maybe your propaganda will be more believable?! lol Probably not but u'll at least realize that your propagnada makes no sense and is literally based in the politics of around 1980-1995. And now Ru rapidly devolved into medieval psychosis in the past 3 years. WAke up before u lose everything you love in former USSR!
Наистина не сте в час! Аз ви съжалявам! Не съм виждал по- объркани и дезориентирани хора! Бог да ви прости, има защо!
What a bizarre comment.
@@SiliconCurtainLOLOL!!! 🥃☕️
Russia in a nutshell….
Whenever anybody brings up God in a comment they are invariably talking nonsense.
@@terryhand especially if they are malligning u at same time.
Thank you Jonathan!