Level 2 or Level 3 Sentry?

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • In this video I detail the differences between a Level Two and a Level Three sentry gun, including the situational advantages of fully upgrading to Level Three or deciding to hold back with a Level Two to gain a specific advantage. You might be surprised to learn some of the the stats of the Engineer's most famous building!
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  • @engineer2474
    @engineer2474 Před 6 lety +16898

    I can solve this whole debate in one second.
    *Mini Sentry*

  • @ok-ci2ti
    @ok-ci2ti Před 4 lety +13030

    This video reminds me of the time I was on this 2fort server, and there was this kid playing engineer. He had a level 2 sentry, and everyone was screaming at him to upgrade it, but he wouldn’t because he said he liked the way it looked.

    • @MrBryan1430
      @MrBryan1430 Před 4 lety +2332

      Emvee That kid had 800 iq. He was simply outplaying the other team.

    • @Julio-it1pl
      @Julio-it1pl Před 4 lety +170

      Nice

    • @frut_jooos
      @frut_jooos Před 4 lety +297

      The mad man

    • @harrypoon3410
      @harrypoon3410 Před 4 lety +548

      The look is the most important

    • @derpydorphia333
      @derpydorphia333 Před 4 lety +603

      One of them could have went Engie for a moment to go upgrade it themselves.

  • @deadwhitedragon9751
    @deadwhitedragon9751 Před 2 lety +1182

    Important point: splash damage
    Corner peeking a sentry becomes much harder against a level 3, as a rocket can easily kill you while behind the corner

    • @danate3849
      @danate3849 Před 2 lety +16

      It's not splash damage, it's the huge hitbox of rockets.

    • @user-25352
      @user-25352 Před 2 lety +29

      you dodge rockets once, then can cornerpick safely for few more seconds

    • @jacobfreeland6881
      @jacobfreeland6881 Před rokem

      @@user-25352 yeah, but then you have given the engi extra time to repair his sentry or for someone else to come along and kill you.

    • @willedwards7379
      @willedwards7379 Před rokem +32

      ​@@user-25352 better then NO corner peaking protection

    • @wr3nche5
      @wr3nche5 Před rokem +9

      there have been many times where i've wrangled a sentry and rocket'd someone that was behind a corner

  • @mikemrpoopypants3042
    @mikemrpoopypants3042 Před 3 lety +463

    When I usually play on 2fort I tend to build a lvl 2 sentry behind the desk in the intel room.
    Why? You may ask, well it’s all thanks to the intelligence, as it has no hit box.
    So the enemy will receive bullets from your sentry not knowing from where they come from.

  • @FlushedMoji
    @FlushedMoji Před 4 lety +16973

    I’ll sap them both

  • @Razzrazz90
    @Razzrazz90 Před 5 lety +2280

    I haven’t played TF2 in over 5 years, but CZcams Recommendations demanded I come here. Hello my old brothers

    • @static07
      @static07 Před 4 lety +43

      Welcome back!

    • @tomhill3248
      @tomhill3248 Před 4 lety +36

      It's good to see you again! Boyz, make some room by the hearth why doncha?!

    • @fattburger6801
      @fattburger6801 Před 4 lety +24

      A lot has changed in the last 5 years...

    • @dario110011
      @dario110011 Před 4 lety +16

      @@fattburger6801 Indeed. I am getting back into TF2 now (what else is there to do now that we're all socially isolated?) and it sure is different from when I last played about 5 years ago.

    • @fattburger6801
      @fattburger6801 Před 4 lety +11

      @dario110011
      What’s the most shocking change to you ? Im curious to know

  • @annagolebiowska865
    @annagolebiowska865 Před 3 lety +1136

    Another thing is that for level twos pyros can’t TOUCH YA

    • @eh2587
      @eh2587 Před 3 lety +51

      Unless you are dead and they are hitting it outside of its range with a stock shotgun, sure it will take a painful amount of time to destroy it like that and it will do nothing if the engie is alive but atleast it will destroy it at some point if your dead and maybe help their team a little by softening up the sentry gun, but otherwise your correct

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo Před 3 lety +9

      @@eh2587 Yeah and waste a lot of time

    • @nimbarius1800
      @nimbarius1800 Před 3 lety +6

      Laughs in W+M1

    • @iklahanglimbu1537
      @iklahanglimbu1537 Před 3 lety +4

      @@eh2587 flare gun

    • @igor8ball207
      @igor8ball207 Před 3 lety +3

      You didnt check behind you. PYRO IS A AMBUSH CLASS

  • @adamtheriault6743
    @adamtheriault6743 Před 2 lety +750

    Weapon concept
    Scrappers PDA
    +50% metal supply
    -buildings only upgrade to level 2
    Works perfectly as an offensive engi PDA, works efficiently with the Widowmaker and especially the jag, allows more use of the short circuit, and gives level 2 buildings their own spotlight
    Oh, and in mvm the metal supply upgrade remains the same, otherwise it's complete downgrade from stock

    • @theovermind6041
      @theovermind6041 Před 2 lety +56

      3 gunslinger sentries available! Awesome!

    • @radomiami
      @radomiami Před 2 lety +42

      That would make battle engies terrifying.

    • @spyro2002
      @spyro2002 Před 2 lety +63

      This might be the first both reasonable and interesting concept for a pda unlock I've heard in all these years

    • @SnugWugs137
      @SnugWugs137 Před 2 lety +5

      It could also be dumb, if we could place fifth building, like an extra sentry or dispenser.

    • @shookengie370
      @shookengie370 Před 2 lety +36

      @@spyro2002 "What? This piece of poop? Ppfffttt
      Look at mine!"
      "Pdaaaaaaaa
      +Can build 100 buildings
      +100% metal bonus
      +Buildings has 100% health bones
      +Engineer becomes invulnerable when carrying out the toolbox
      -no random crits"

  • @tehlazercat8438
    @tehlazercat8438 Před 4 lety +969

    Fun fact, level 3 buildings were almost not added into the game because people at valve cannot count to 3. Valve had to call in a consultant to teach one of the developers how to count to 3, but after he added in the lvl 3 building, the other developers ripped him limb from limb for his heresy.

    • @Nikki-bu6cb
      @Nikki-bu6cb Před 10 měsíci +33

      How does this only have one like

    • @johngrant9370
      @johngrant9370 Před 9 měsíci

      :/

    • @jarlathquinn2628
      @jarlathquinn2628 Před 9 měsíci +33

      We don’t talk about that heretic

    • @FunayGameZ
      @FunayGameZ Před 9 měsíci +20

      “THREE levels?” -Valve employee

    • @beans00001
      @beans00001 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Fortunately, they had another consultant to teach them how to add 3 games to the Orange Box. F

  • @Smoothsmoothie
    @Smoothsmoothie Před 4 lety +6686

    Dane: time for serious math
    Serious math: turrets shoot bullets and bullets do damage

  • @Mantafirefly
    @Mantafirefly Před 3 lety +572

    Weirdly the level 3 sentry has a faster firing sound compared to level 2, despite not actually firing faster.

    • @shad0w137.
      @shad0w137. Před rokem +55

      That is called "game design"

    • @snurt256
      @snurt256 Před rokem +8

      @@shad0w137. valve does that?

    • @shad0w137.
      @shad0w137. Před rokem +16

      @@snurt256 Yes. More, than you can imagine. That's why TF2 is still popular

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte Před rokem

      @@shad0w137. Pfp Sauce (Artist)? 🗿

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte Před rokem +60

      @@shad0w137. But it’s actually bad design… because you make the player think it is a straight upgrade when it’s actually not, it’s always infuriating when games hide info from the player or gaslight the player, it’s not that big of a deal but it’s definitely NOT good design, especially not for a new player.

  • @Tap11283
    @Tap11283 Před 3 lety +215

    3:28 i thought it was a tiny dispenser

    • @the_knightcatTTv
      @the_knightcatTTv Před 3 lety +26

      Mini sentry and mini despensi

    • @bug_under
      @bug_under Před 3 lety +3

      @@the_knightcatTTv i need that

    • @Tap11283
      @Tap11283 Před 2 lety

      @@bug_under same

    • @ahmed4363
      @ahmed4363 Před 2 lety +4

      The dane stack in the background

    • @JohnFortniteKennedy_
      @JohnFortniteKennedy_ Před 2 lety +9

      Yea we need mini dispenser. Heals and refill ammo slow but just like mini sentry, cost less metals

  • @arielsproul8811
    @arielsproul8811 Před 6 lety +4781

    level 4 sentry

    • @rubenssiqueira6991
      @rubenssiqueira6991 Před 5 lety +168

      engie could have a new slot 4 weapon that allowed a level 4 sentry. It would be a sentry that moves... i dont know..

    • @TheTrueKingDoge
      @TheTrueKingDoge Před 5 lety +65

      O.o *trys to build level 4 sentry* DAMMIT TF2 THERE IS NOT LEVEL 3 SENTY YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Hs632wb
      @Hs632wb Před 5 lety +17

      William Nicholson senty lol

    • @trashcan285
      @trashcan285 Před 5 lety +10

      It would be mini version NOW YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT ON UPGRADING IT

    • @zjlje4life278
      @zjlje4life278 Před 5 lety +10

      aka mini sentry

  • @DelthinTheRanger
    @DelthinTheRanger Před 4 lety +3040

    If I was that soldier, and I just got market gardened by an engi, mid air, I’d have uninstalled the game

    • @samwich4444
      @samwich4444 Před 4 lety +98

      BARACUDA!

    • @G_Macks
      @G_Macks Před 4 lety +233

      Market pardnered

    • @samwich4444
      @samwich4444 Před 4 lety +5

      @@G_Macks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @G_Macks
      @G_Macks Před 4 lety +15

      Scout mains unite

    • @Larfmield0007
      @Larfmield0007 Před 3 lety +12

      @@G_Macks i *"love"* scouts,easy to kill for us pyro mains

  • @yellowshyguy2212
    @yellowshyguy2212 Před 3 lety +395

    I don’t use the level three for the rockets, I use it for the extra health your sentry gets.

    • @yingames275
      @yingames275 Před 3 lety +40

      1 time I used a lvl 3 a spy sapped it and I removed the sapper just as the sentry was at 20 hp
      If I used lvl 2 I’m pretty sure it woulda died

    • @spyro2002
      @spyro2002 Před 2 lety +5

      He said that too

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte Před rokem +10

      @@yingames275 Yeah it would’ve, lvl 3 is +36 health so lvl 2 obviously would’ve died.

    • @likewastaken0906
      @likewastaken0906 Před 9 měsíci

      Same

    • @kentreed2011
      @kentreed2011 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Yeah and the rockets are a nice plus. Why not some extra damage from the rockets if you're defending? Rockets are effective against peeking enemies.

  • @YaGirlJuniper
    @YaGirlJuniper Před 3 lety +110

    Something that's not often talked about but can make a huge difference is that each level of a sentry increases its turret turn speed as well, which means it can more effectively switch targets and cover multiple directions. A Pyro could run tight circles around a level 1 and never get shot at, and a Scout can do that against a level 2, but not against a level 3. That isn't even on the wiki, but it is an important stat that changes and I'm surprised it's not listed anywhere since AFAIK everyone knows it.

  • @Tr0lliPop
    @Tr0lliPop Před 4 lety +2813

    you forgot one thing: sentry rockets can be airblasted, meaning level 3's are easier to destroy for a pyro. much, MUCH easier.
    edit: so uhh this got controversial. Let me explain:
    I said EASIER, not EASY.

    • @carsonyeohkaisheng7542
      @carsonyeohkaisheng7542 Před 4 lety +98

      Yep
      I would always check if there a pyro before maxing it

    • @Tr0lliPop
      @Tr0lliPop Před 4 lety +217

      @@carsonyeohkaisheng7542 I usually also ask if the pyro knows the meaning of mouse2.

    • @gameniscord_5167
      @gameniscord_5167 Před 3 lety +247

      The problem is I’m so bad at TF2 and I have so much lag that it’s impossible for me to air blast basically anything.

    • @Tr0lliPop
      @Tr0lliPop Před 3 lety +42

      @@gameniscord_5167 oof

    • @jojosbruhmoment1192
      @jojosbruhmoment1192 Před 3 lety +88

      The pyro would be dead by the time it can airblast 2 rockets, also the engineer would keep on bapping his sentry

  • @loweffortproductions1985
    @loweffortproductions1985 Před 4 lety +1243

    So basically....
    Lvl 2 for offensive (BLU) Engie, Lvl 3 for defensive (RED) Engie.

    • @ttty2242
      @ttty2242 Před 4 lety +19

      why would you have LVL 2 on offence?

    • @flameguy8025
      @flameguy8025 Před 4 lety +97

      TTTY 224 some maps you can pre build buildings in the spawn zone

    • @ttty2242
      @ttty2242 Před 4 lety +1

      @@flameguy8025 I think that may get patched very soon

    • @Niiue
      @Niiue Před 4 lety +46

      TTTY 224 mmm i doubt it will be ‘soon’

    • @ttty2242
      @ttty2242 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Niiue good point, still going to get you banned on comp

  • @Abrothers12
    @Abrothers12 Před 11 měsíci +64

    I like how the sentry shoots the whole casing as well. That’s got to be at least 35% more bullet per bullet

  • @KRIMZONMEKANISM
    @KRIMZONMEKANISM Před 3 lety +35

    My two cents is that having a level 3 is very important for a truly defensive position that forces players into close quarters, ideally in an elevated platform.
    The rocket salvo isn't very fast reaching, BUT it "sprinkles" that little bit of additional damage that either kills surprised players or dissuades players who wish to push past it.
    A level two sentry will just as quickly deal with about 6 of the other classes, but the classes to truly do pose a serious threat to your sentry are the Soldier, Demo, and in certain situations, the Heavy, and that's where the rocket salvo comes in handy, since these classes are slower than most others, and the rockets have a higher chance of splashing damage on them.
    Of course, if a good pyro can reflect those rockets it becomes dangerous even to the engineer himself, but that's not common, and usually it will only hit if you are in a really bad position.
    So I'll put it like this: Level 2's can be justified if the enemy team lacks any sort of competent soldiers or demos that could destroy your sentry.

  • @chasecarpenter6911
    @chasecarpenter6911 Před 5 lety +3453

    I love that he got iDubbbz to read that

  • @Nekyomi
    @Nekyomi Před 5 lety +1357

    Here is a new debate of engineer’s voice line
    “Sometimes you gotta use less gun”
    Or
    “Sometimes you gotta use more gun”

  • @gangweedstudios
    @gangweedstudios Před 3 lety +166

    yeah but level 3’s are intimidating to the enemy team

    • @justvacuumingaround9309
      @justvacuumingaround9309 Před 2 lety +12

      I am actually more intimidated by a level 2 since if it has been like that for a long period of time, it usually means the engineer is up to something else, something far more damgerous as he can either have left it to place a sneaky teleporter behind my own team or be a horrifying version of the battle engineer that mows down entire teams with random level 2's

    • @realpika954
      @realpika954 Před 2 lety +9

      "Oh, a level 2, I can do this"
      "OH NO, A LEVEL 3! I NEED TO RUN NOW!"

    • @-RandomStranger-
      @-RandomStranger- Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@justvacuumingaround9309 don't worry, not every Engineer you meet is a mastermind

  • @Schw1cky
    @Schw1cky Před 3 lety +73

    Fun fact: the 8 rps of the sentry gun when multiplied by 60 seconds shows that it has a staggeringly low rate of fire of 480 rpm. Ouch.

  • @nschmidt9055
    @nschmidt9055 Před 6 lety +1300

    A small missed con for the level 3: Rockets can be air blasted back at the engie or gun.

    • @iatemysock
      @iatemysock Před 6 lety +68

      Pyro:Omaoia, mo shin de ro
      Engineer:NANI?
      SKKKKRRRRRR

    • @averagelichprotectingthefr8412
      @averagelichprotectingthefr8412 Před 6 lety +142

      Joey's fan Wtf is that spelling
      It's spelled 'Omae wa mou shindeiru.'

    • @iatemysock
      @iatemysock Před 6 lety +15

      average lich protecting the frozen throne You obviously haven't heard of any other language than english

    • @scotttu
      @scotttu Před 5 lety +38

      that... you don't spell pterodactyl 'terradactl'

    • @iatemysock
      @iatemysock Před 5 lety +1

      TheMissingLink tf

  • @Memerath
    @Memerath Před 4 lety +724

    "I will bye to you nieces and next times, nephew. Talk talk."
    -Uncle Dane the very good sentry man, 6:52

  • @shootingstar4468
    @shootingstar4468 Před 3 lety +23

    "sometimes, you just need a little less gun" -Dell "Engie" Conagher

  • @technicolormischief-maker5683

    It seems as though the level 3 sentry’s rockets aren’t meant to kill people directly so much as to incentivize them to move in certain ways. Tracking becomes easier when the rockets are flying, as for that moment you just have to predict what direction they’ll move to dodge the rockets, so you can take advantage of that while fighting alongside a level 3. Actually hitting them is a very juicy cherry on top.

  • @fakecelino
    @fakecelino Před 4 lety +711

    Mini sentry user: lmao hold my beer

  • @bucketofcalzones457
    @bucketofcalzones457 Před 4 lety +425

    If you are moving a gun, upgrade it to lvl 2 and put another 150-175 metal into it, then move that gear up. That way you can get the best of both worlds.
    Gun starts fireing quicker and you can finish the upgrade at your discretion with one or two swings

    • @mee091000
      @mee091000 Před 4 lety +12

      But it will upgrade while you are repairing it in combat. I think that's a horrible idea

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ Před 4 lety +30

      @@mee091000 Rescue Ranger

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ Před 4 lety +18

      @@mee091000 and the ammo is refilled before it'll allow upgrades

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo Před 3 lety +4

      @@Sillimant_ but like you gonna upgrade it anyways why not do it in spawn

    • @aegis3505
      @aegis3505 Před 3 lety +1

      ... he is the smartest man alive

  • @mumoffivepowerlover4073
    @mumoffivepowerlover4073 Před 3 lety +40

    0:33 oh god this is already to complex

  • @duckyinthejar7793
    @duckyinthejar7793 Před rokem +5

    I believe it’s important to note how Pyro can take advantage of level 3 sentry rockets, killing the engineer in one hit, or at least leaving him extremely vulnerable to your teammates, as well as damaging the sentry a whole lot as well.

  • @FultzKJ
    @FultzKJ Před 8 lety +866

    I didn't even realize this was something debatable. I always figured highest level = best result. I might start leaving a gun at level 2 more often when on offense or while I'm trying to get a nest up. The extra HP is important when you're fully set up, so I see no point in leaving it at level 2 if you have everything else upgraded, aren't moving, and have 200 metal to spend, but I can see situations where the build speed and extra metal for my teleporter might be more beneficial.

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  Před 8 lety +106

      👍😃👌

    • @alexdocouz3
      @alexdocouz3 Před 8 lety +45

      +Uncle Dane get your emojis outta here and back to facebook

    • @Ryoland
      @Ryoland Před 8 lety +1

      +Kevin (Emayerage) Level 2 is a requirement in my book for any form of nest, but lvl 3 is a wait thing most of the time unless your playing disposable sentry(was more common before gunslinger). I usually get the 3, then ensure dispensers up to at least 2 before worry about lvl 3 gun. Also the size thing, lvl 2 lets it peek over most things so its good for surprise buttsechings folks with odd placements ;).

    • @spookykitty2327
      @spookykitty2327 Před 8 lety +8

      Here is the enemy of your strategy: stupid engineers upgrading you're sentry.

    • @Ryoland
      @Ryoland Před 8 lety +4

      If you have engis helping you, i never complain, they wanna repair it cool beans lol...

  • @vodozhaba
    @vodozhaba Před 4 lety +227

    4:21 it doesn’t matter how much of gun is hidden, it matters how much is exposed

    • @MtCLatte
      @MtCLatte Před 4 lety +40

      Well,Every 60 seconds in Africa,A minute passes

    • @vodozhaba
      @vodozhaba Před 4 lety +9

      NeverM01e it’s not equivalent when the size of the gun changes

    • @MtCLatte
      @MtCLatte Před 4 lety +2

      @@vodozhaba oops lol.Sorry

    • @offandsphere6788
      @offandsphere6788 Před 3 lety +7

      finally someone said it

  • @bekelek_211
    @bekelek_211 Před 3 lety +1

    i watch this video for 4 years,and i will keep watching.Thanks for the amazing content.

  • @NiroAngel0
    @NiroAngel0 Před 10 měsíci +7

    0:34 I like how the sentry fires the entire cartridge instead of just the bullet

    • @co_rusut
      @co_rusut Před 9 měsíci +2

      "We fire 65% more bullet per bullet!"

  • @socialist-strong
    @socialist-strong Před 7 lety +312

    I've been killed tons of times peeking a lvl 3, taking bullet damage then dying to rockets once I'm behind cover.

  • @geeworm
    @geeworm Před 5 lety +536

    Here's something you didn't know:
    Half life 2 Episode 2's Antlion Worker has a very advanced aiming system. They predict your movements and fire ahead of you, making a near direct hit everytime. This is the same as the APC's rocket launcher.

    • @terri4994
      @terri4994 Před 5 lety +27

      @Poe Soul yeah and half life 2 episode 2 is from like 2007 or something lol

    • @literallyglados
      @literallyglados Před 5 lety +11

      @@terri4994 I was one year old when that happened

    • @fewl6607
      @fewl6607 Před 5 lety +11

      no wonder they were fucking annoying

    • @katatonikbliss
      @katatonikbliss Před 5 lety +4

      fucking hated those things

    • @HumanGrunt
      @HumanGrunt Před 5 lety +7

      Same thing for the combine sniper's

  • @wet0wl
    @wet0wl Před 2 lety +12

    As a Pyro main, a level 3 sentry is essentially strapping a bomb to it.

  • @frozeneevee
    @frozeneevee Před 3 lety +11

    Based on my experience if the sentry and enemy player are in a small or somewhat enclosed space then the rockets will hit the enemy player fairly consistently.

  • @ajduong
    @ajduong Před 4 lety +552

    Question about the larger hitbox: does it matter when:
    a) Sentries are stationary, since I always imagined that hitbox size matters primarily when dodging, which requires mobility
    b) The sentry has no "vulnerable" hitboxes, like a head which snipers can exploit

    • @xXMemelord
      @xXMemelord Před 4 lety +70

      Incog Elbowtross yes and no. its simply allowing a soldier, scout, whatever to more consistently hit it. now becuase its a stationary target, sure, but in the middle of a fight one or two more bullets from a heavy could decide everything.

    • @aegis3505
      @aegis3505 Před 3 lety +18

      you can peek the ramp for final cap badwater
      you can peek final cap rock on dustbowl
      and many more!

    • @crestothegecko6279
      @crestothegecko6279 Před 3 lety +18

      a scout can do more damage from longer ranges because of the bigger hitbox but, let's be honest, if a scount is close enough to do max damage to a sentry he won't be there for much longer

    • @King_Stranger
      @King_Stranger Před 3 lety +11

      Hitboxes matter. smaller one requires more skill to damage. and technically the engie is the sentry's weakspot. It's a team based objective game. everyone has a role.

    • @TheDunsparceGames
      @TheDunsparceGames Před 3 lety +6

      there’s a spot in the intel room on 2fort where a level 2 sentry is practically invisible while shooting but a level 3 can be easily peeked

  • @UncleDane
    @UncleDane  Před 8 lety +1454

    It's also worth noting that even though the firing speed for the Level 2 and Level 3 sentries are exactly the same, the Level 3 has a noticeable increase in the bullet firing *sound* that it makes, so it can be a bit deceiving. Interesting stuff. Or at least I think so. Hope ya enjoyed. ;)

    • @tahcko3140
      @tahcko3140 Před 8 lety +9

      +Uncle Dane Incoming volvo repair

    • @wonderingblu8638
      @wonderingblu8638 Před 8 lety +1

      What about dispensers?

    • @summerdeaf
      @summerdeaf Před 8 lety +10

      "...and I'll see you nieces and next times, nephew"

    • @JecIsBec
      @JecIsBec Před 8 lety +3

      +Uncle Dane But annncclllee daannnee... You forgot to mention airblasting rockets :(
      That is the main reason I don't upgrade to lvl 3.

    • @ButoPulseGames
      @ButoPulseGames Před 8 lety +3

      +Uncle Dane oi oi, i have a question. what degree did you take?

  • @sand8041
    @sand8041 Před 3 lety +9

    "But an extra *38* damage needed to destroy the sentry." (sigh) Uncle dane. I didn't want to say this but... It's 36.

  • @rmsatlantic
    @rmsatlantic Před 3 lety +5

    I love the intro.... " *whelp I guess this will do* "

  • @jacksonryan5319
    @jacksonryan5319 Před 8 lety +228

    Hi I'm an immature 12 year old who needs to state how early he is.

    • @itsFisch
      @itsFisch Před 8 lety +2

      +jackson ryan early enough for child support?

    • @jacksonryan5319
      @jacksonryan5319 Před 8 lety +6

      +itsFisch anything for you daddy

    • @lowkey_Ioki
      @lowkey_Ioki Před 8 lety +3

      +jackson ryan You're still pointin out you're early... This is only half satire you know...

    • @omgasmallbox
      @omgasmallbox Před 8 lety

      +jackson ryan you sure are

    • @henryc2859
      @henryc2859 Před 8 lety +2

      +9/11 is my favorite time of the year
      ur name gets r8 9 out of 11 needs improvement

  • @-TPLT
    @-TPLT Před 8 lety +78

    Engineers wasn't kidding around when sometimes you just need a little less gun. Nice.

    • @BloodWraith42
      @BloodWraith42 Před 8 lety +5

      Nope

    • @Hung_Nguyen_90
      @Hung_Nguyen_90 Před 8 lety +27

      Engineer: "The answer is ... use a gun ... if that won't work... use more guns .... if that still don't work ... hmm use a little less gun?"

    • @junkfoodmuncher
      @junkfoodmuncher Před 8 lety

      Just sometimes ;)

    • @rollerpuntazo1640
      @rollerpuntazo1640 Před 8 lety

      +Hung Nguyen then minisentry join to the server

  • @sketchpad7116
    @sketchpad7116 Před 3 lety +1

    This is the first TF2 video I saw. Turns out a good friend of mine was a tf2 fan too. And here I am. An Engineer Main, because of this video. I am indebted to this good uncle. Thanks Dane!

  • @frenchfrey65
    @frenchfrey65 Před 9 měsíci

    I personally love the mini-turret with the Gunslinger, it's great for playing offensive engineer, coupled with Frontier Justice. I can keep moving, keep building without having to upgrade the turret by just planting more, and if they do damage or get kills, the rage goes up on the FJ for crits! Great combo! love doing it!

  • @rachelnanshija251
    @rachelnanshija251 Před 8 lety +182

    Fascinating. Love your informational videos, especially when you get into the math behind what's going on. Thanks for vid Dane.

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  Před 8 lety +33

      +Rachel Nanshija Glad you liked it. :)

    • @123letsgopokemon
      @123letsgopokemon Před 8 lety

      +Rachel Nanshija same

    • @daimyo1178
      @daimyo1178 Před 8 lety +2

      +Uncle Dane I love how you search in depth and put humor in the end. You are one of a kind youtuber.

    • @rachelnanshija251
      @rachelnanshija251 Před 8 lety

      hey Uncle Dane, are you still going to put out that sentry beep music video? :D

    • @BigRonnieSize
      @BigRonnieSize Před 8 lety

      +mac77 Kirsh go away scamming knob end

  • @CreativeChoroos
    @CreativeChoroos Před 6 lety +162

    It's also worth noting that that the sentry causes knock back with its bullets and because of this the sentry's rockets can land a liiiiiiittle reliably when the opponent is grounded, because now the sentry is pushing them in a *straight* line away meaning the opponent is now moving in the same direction the rockets are traveling, still not reliable, but it wasn't covered in this video because the medic was invincible in the demonstration. Food for thought

    • @Factory26_
      @Factory26_ Před 5 lety

      Peter The Homie that that

    • @SVP-uy9qb
      @SVP-uy9qb Před 5 lety +3

      Totally wrong, the bullets add a velocity perpendicular to the turret but doesn't modify the other 2 axis velocity so, being pushed back makes it even harder to hit the rockets.

    • @LOLAP95
      @LOLAP95 Před 5 lety +6

      @@SVP-uy9qb ur wrong

    • @MayaMaya-si3nw
      @MayaMaya-si3nw Před 5 lety +1

      @@LOLAP95 proof?

    • @MayaMaya-si3nw
      @MayaMaya-si3nw Před 5 lety

      @@LOLAP95 proof?

  • @israeliscouttm377
    @israeliscouttm377 Před 3 lety +57

    Funny story:
    Took my 4 years up until I played tf2 to see a level 2 sentry gun.
    I only know level 1 and 3
    Edit: I didn't Google it because I didn't know how to spell "sentry"

    • @tlacxztli_1
      @tlacxztli_1 Před 3 lety

      How did ya upgraded your sentries?

    • @israeliscouttm377
      @israeliscouttm377 Před 3 lety +4

      @@tlacxztli_1 I don't think you understand when I know what tf2 is but I haven't played tf2 this is when I didn't see a level 2 sentry

    • @tlacxztli_1
      @tlacxztli_1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@israeliscouttm377 oh, i get it lmao

    • @notniran9339
      @notniran9339 Před 3 lety +1

      לול המשחק לא מת בישראל, אני דיי שמח עכשיו

  • @retrowave4563
    @retrowave4563 Před 3 lety +9

    "UHHHHH BARRACUDA" -uncle dane

  • @fqidz
    @fqidz Před 6 lety +630

    Obviously..
    The level one sentry

    • @summerblade3790
      @summerblade3790 Před 5 lety +14

      The mini century is the best

    • @henovan3179
      @henovan3179 Před 5 lety +36

      @@summerblade3790 lmao century

    • @PanOfTheMan
      @PanOfTheMan Před 5 lety +1

      @@henovan3179 ikr

    • @crabulonbestgirl9130
      @crabulonbestgirl9130 Před 5 lety +35

      Level 3 sentry *smallest brain*
      Level 2 sentry *small brain*
      Level 1 sentry *medium brain*
      Mini sentry *big brain*
      No sentry *engi holding frontier justice*

    • @CC-fo7oh
      @CC-fo7oh Před 4 lety

      I'm the kind of person that goes to the back of the sentry while it's busy and beats it to death (suicide)

  • @garybaldo8822
    @garybaldo8822 Před 6 lety +730

    How could you have forgot about the pyro? He can airblast rockets

    • @tribeofkings6999
      @tribeofkings6999 Před 5 lety +40

      I play both Pyro and Engie, and I have never seen another Pyro airblast my sentry rockets, and I wasn't able to airblast Sentry rockets while playing as Pyro

    • @Kugelweber
      @Kugelweber Před 5 lety +30

      they do deal minicrits. I play pyro in RGL IM and airblasting rockets can be incredibly powerful. they're way more predictable than a soldier's rockets so you can airblast them much closer to the source. Gotten a few medics that way

    • @meme__juice
      @meme__juice Před 5 lety +4

      TribeOfKings
      Once i hear the beep and start to get shot by a sentry then i fucking kill m2

    • @sandgunslinger2739
      @sandgunslinger2739 Před 5 lety +22

      It is extremely hard to airblast the rockets back while taking 128 dps and knockback

    • @disassembledpen666
      @disassembledpen666 Před 5 lety +7

      Just bait the sentry into shooting it's rockets, and then step back. Not that hard John Little.

  • @ww2gaming388
    @ww2gaming388 Před 3 lety +8

    When moving up have a level one sentry one hit from upgrading so it can be re deployed faster if needed

  • @8-ball350
    @8-ball350 Před 3 lety +15

    Looking at them in order reminds me of Pokémon evolutions

    • @godsu
      @godsu Před 2 lety

      The Pokemart music certainly helps

  • @I_Am_Kas
    @I_Am_Kas Před 7 lety +325

    this video has been on my recommended for 4 months now

  • @mikzin630
    @mikzin630 Před 7 lety +237

    If rocket damage is calculated by distance from engi to victim, then what if engi is dead?

    • @ninjadude5x588
      @ninjadude5x588 Před 7 lety +119

      The universe explodes

    • @Bone8380
      @Bone8380 Před 7 lety +43

      wherever the corpse is i guess

    • @cmadelt
      @cmadelt Před 7 lety +30

      It counts as far from wherever you spawn back in.

    • @dhkatz_
      @dhkatz_ Před 7 lety +55

      He even said the minimum damage is 50 so it would do 50 damage.

    • @husk2491
      @husk2491 Před 7 lety

      Myko Link Then either they or you are doing a shit job.

  • @diosworld5907
    @diosworld5907 Před 3 lety

    I find this video very helpful very informative and quite new user friendly 👍

  • @ashton_gaming8670
    @ashton_gaming8670 Před rokem

    Level 3 looks badass and it’s always good to have your machines fully upgraded because the rockets always seemed to hit for me so must have been updated or it’s just overpowered for me plus it has more health.

  • @L1ghtyyyy
    @L1ghtyyyy Před 8 lety +299

    What i learned from this video is that size matters :^)

  • @shtupidmate
    @shtupidmate Před 8 lety +1421

    acnke dan whats the difence betyween level two sentey and level three senty????????????????????

  • @Yeah12831
    @Yeah12831 Před 3 lety +1

    I love how idubbbz is in this. I'm glad dane and him are friends.

  • @Evenlower
    @Evenlower Před 3 lety +7

    The level 2 sentry also has the advantage of not being blasted by it's own rockets from the pyro

  • @gc7396
    @gc7396 Před 7 lety +36

    "I will talk to you neices and next time, nephews."
    ok.

    • @Zoweed
      @Zoweed Před 7 lety +8

      no, he said "I will bye to you nieces and next times, nephew. Talk talk."

  • @lynx4022
    @lynx4022 Před 7 lety +311

    Wow you got idubbbz to do a vid with you?

    • @lynx4022
      @lynx4022 Před 7 lety +1

      Meh oh wow that's cool

    • @oneeighthundred2917
      @oneeighthundred2917 Před 7 lety

      Lynx wait do you have a steam account named Lynx?

    • @lynx4022
      @lynx4022 Před 7 lety

      One Eight Hundred yes sir

    • @oneeighthundred2917
      @oneeighthundred2917 Před 7 lety

      Lynx and were you on a pb fortress server yesterday?

    • @lynx4022
      @lynx4022 Před 7 lety +2

      One Eight Hundred if I had an australium knife that is called "Gang violence" then definitely.

  • @ThatCookieAddict
    @ThatCookieAddict Před 3 lety +4

    I think the best way to put a sentry in a good spot is to upgrade it to level 2 and carry it out to somewhere where you want it to be. Then make the choice to upgrade to level 3 or keep level 2.

  • @eandvwiglegames1030
    @eandvwiglegames1030 Před 2 lety +1

    3:08
    Gman: “The right sentry in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.”

  • @tygonmaster
    @tygonmaster Před 5 lety +65

    3:38 Ah, the age-old question: "What is the best size?"

  • @bilbo_gamers6417
    @bilbo_gamers6417 Před 7 lety +146

    0:17 Idubbbz?

  • @Not_Laci
    @Not_Laci Před rokem

    I can't believe this video was made 6 years ago. Time just flows so rapidly

  • @codaboi138
    @codaboi138 Před 2 lety +2

    I tend to use level 2 more than level 3 because, atleast in my experience, if you're the only engie and you've got a sentry set up, the enemy team will work together destroy it eventually, no matter how good the placement is. It's usually advisable to move your sentry every few kills, just to keep them unaware of it's position, but that's hard with how long a level 3 takes to build. A level 2 with the jag equipped goes up pretty damn fast, so I like to be able to pack up and move as much as possible, as quick as possible, and for as cheap as possible. The lvl3's rockets and extra health just dont stack up to these other benefits imo.

  • @RadFoxgirl
    @RadFoxgirl Před 6 lety +588

    I have been killed by my own sentry twice in one gane

    • @sandgunslinger2739
      @sandgunslinger2739 Před 5 lety +9

      Wrangler

    • @bigbob754
      @bigbob754 Před 5 lety +29

      @@sandgunslinger2739 standing infront of ur sentry when theres a enemy

    • @sorcererz6848
      @sorcererz6848 Před 5 lety +2

      I've killed my friend that was on my team somehow?

    • @YuriYoshiosan
      @YuriYoshiosan Před 5 lety +1

      Don't stand in front of it, easy

    • @dioxide39
      @dioxide39 Před 5 lety +3

      @@sorcererz6848 a spy? or you are on a teamkill server

  • @mrsand6665
    @mrsand6665 Před 5 lety +36

    0:21 Hold the FLIP up is that Idubbz?

    • @dioxide39
      @dioxide39 Před 5 lety +6

      Yep. Idubbbz is Uncle Dane's good friend.

  • @boostaddict_
    @boostaddict_ Před 3 lety +2

    Sometimes I go engine to help my team's engine upgrade stuff at the beginning of the match, before switching to a different class.

  • @actuallylid
    @actuallylid Před 3 lety

    This was the first Uncle Dan the sentry man video that I ever watched
    God bless

  • @oneeighthundred2917
    @oneeighthundred2917 Před 7 lety +233

    Wait did you get idubbbz to record that for you?

    • @arvidbergman
      @arvidbergman Před 7 lety +91

      One Eight Hundred they're buds since long ago.

    • @gabbe4781
      @gabbe4781 Před 7 lety +43

      One Eight Hundred havent you seen the keemstar song

    • @immortalsun
      @immortalsun Před 6 lety +2

      @Boltz I always thought iDubbbz sang that.

    • @twosmoke3608
      @twosmoke3608 Před 6 lety

      There friends

    • @FakeLexi
      @FakeLexi Před 6 lety

      Yes he did

  • @lanic515
    @lanic515 Před 8 lety +434

    This is a great video and gave me insight on how to get my sentry into daring spots more easily, but it left one big question of mine unanswered...
    ancke dan whats the difence betyween level two sentey and level three sentey???????????????????????????????????

    • @ninjadude5x588
      @ninjadude5x588 Před 7 lety +15

      Level two looks cooler

    • @JohnDoe-tg7yz
      @JohnDoe-tg7yz Před 7 lety +7

      +NinjaDude5x5 no level 3 looks cooler

    • @magicalidiot9605
      @magicalidiot9605 Před 7 lety +2

      +My name was dumb So i changed it level 2

    • @JohnDoe-tg7yz
      @JohnDoe-tg7yz Před 7 lety

      +Magical Idiot k i don't want to agrue on this its your decision

    • @pletad
      @pletad Před 7 lety

      Level 2 looks cooler. Expect Level 3's better. Don't argue with me this is the only thing i'll post.

  • @dukefisean6758
    @dukefisean6758 Před 3 lety +3

    I just realized that in the intro, there's a snow-like crunch when Dane puts the toolbox thingy down.

  • @ranefe2632
    @ranefe2632 Před 3 lety

    I dont kniw why I'm watching this, I dont even play this game and yet I'm entertained by this video

  • @fighter5583
    @fighter5583 Před 8 lety +40

    I look at it like this: In defensive situations a lvl 3 is required while on offense a lvl 2 is good enough.

    • @hapiestar7164
      @hapiestar7164 Před 8 lety +9

      #minisentrymasterrace

    • @shadowofares3405
      @shadowofares3405 Před 8 lety

      Not really, in offence a Gunslinger is required

    • @fighter5583
      @fighter5583 Před 8 lety

      ShadowOfAres No, a gunslinger isn't 'required' for offense. It's merely a supplement for bigger sentries. Also, mini sentries aren't as effective at holding the line if the defending team tries to make a push.

    • @shadowofares3405
      @shadowofares3405 Před 8 lety

      I meant in general, you are much more likely to use the gunslinger offensively rather than any other wrench because the extra setup speed of the mini sentry is what your team really needs to quickly get into an area and eliminate all enemies, remember leveled sentries are used for area denail, to prevent the other team from accessing an area, not for rushing and clearing enemy territory.

  • @BonziBUDDY
    @BonziBUDDY Před 8 lety +34

    You may have forgotten that a good and clever Pyro can deflect level 3 rockets and possibly kill the engineer if he's there, since they will do 135 damage on direct hit. All you have to do is have a health kit around or a medic, and you can peek around the edge and wait for it to shoot a rocket.

    • @UncleDane
      @UncleDane  Před 8 lety +18

      +BonziBUDDY I thought about talking about this, but I've only seen that happen like 5 times in my entire life. It's certainly not a valid reason to keep your sentry at Level 2, imo.

    • @natchu96
      @natchu96 Před 8 lety

      +Uncle Dane Well I suppose it's pretty hard to get the distance right to not be blown up instantly but for the rocket to actually reach you in less than a second and a half . . .

    • @chrisblammo123
      @chrisblammo123 Před 8 lety

      +natchu96 I tried this but it is hard to trigger the rockets without getting killed. Then if the engineer is hiding behind the sentry you have to step out again

    • @MrHubcio666
      @MrHubcio666 Před 8 lety

      +Uncle Dane it's actually really easy to do idk why pyros don't do that.

    • @GlitchedRed
      @GlitchedRed Před 8 lety

      I agree with Dane. As a pyro, Ive only managed to reflect the rockets a few times, and all of those times were last ditch efforts that horribly failed due to the sentry's bullets.

  • @littlebear4264
    @littlebear4264 Před 3 lety

    ahh.. my childhood game, its nice to be back once in a while

  • @AgreementOfArms
    @AgreementOfArms Před 4 měsíci +1

    good job uncle dane you found another way to give us more engineer content

  • @sheaamalloy
    @sheaamalloy Před 7 lety +311

    ancke dan whats the difence betyween level two sentey and level three senty????????????????????????????????

    • @pinkguy8205
      @pinkguy8205 Před 6 lety +30

      can u halp me ples?

    • @jackoster7115
      @jackoster7115 Před 6 lety +11

      How did he get such an accurate voice

    • @ELopez
      @ELopez Před 6 lety +17

      Sunflare Or Something he didn’t. Uncle Dane knows iDubbz. He has cameoed in many of his videos

    • @parsakondori
      @parsakondori Před 6 lety +5

      Ankle dan can I have vintige kratzkrag

    • @inktim
      @inktim Před 6 lety

      U forgot the naruto profile pic

  • @Ninjoth
    @Ninjoth Před 7 lety +60

    Dane, people keep upgrading my gear to level 3 when I want it to be level 2 for the points you've listed. Please tell the engineers to not touch my gun!

  • @calebd3947
    @calebd3947 Před 3 lety +1

    The ad I got before this was for "teacher simulator" and it had a kid give you a paper with USA, France and Russia on it.
    You put a checkmark on USA and Russia. Put an X on France.

  • @Sreeto
    @Sreeto Před 3 lety

    I've never played tf2 and I got this in my reccomendations but I'm still going to watch it

  • @jakescript_
    @jakescript_ Před 8 lety +254

    wait... was that idoopz in the intro?

    • @jowen9539
      @jowen9539 Před 8 lety +1

      Yeag

    • @swoozx3306
      @swoozx3306 Před 8 lety +40

      +Jacob Stevenson Hey, THats Pretty Gud

    • @pxnko4038
      @pxnko4038 Před 8 lety +3

      +SwoozX No.

    • @x341175
      @x341175 Před 8 lety

      +Jacob Stevenson yes uncle dane do credit in descripshon

    • @SirGamerismify
      @SirGamerismify Před 8 lety +2

      +Jacob Stevenson Not anymore

  • @raytheidiot
    @raytheidiot Před 8 lety +39

    No need to worry in MvM

  • @TherealScissors
    @TherealScissors Před 10 měsíci

    Im a spy main yet I’m here watching your content and why do I enjoy it?

  • @AstroJordan06
    @AstroJordan06 Před 3 lety +3

    Level 2 = better. The reason is that level 3 fires rockets or explosive projectiles of which the enemy pyro can reflect back at the sentry or the engi or the engis team so there's that

  • @doginspace1531
    @doginspace1531 Před 4 lety +276

    Level one does a stack of damage per second

  • @cyberwolfmc9536
    @cyberwolfmc9536 Před 4 lety +16

    If I’m planning on building a sentry one place and immediately relocating it to somewhere else, I like to upgrade a sentry to level 2 and put 175 metal into upgrading it, that way if I need to put the sentry down to defend myself it or am rushed to put it down it can start working faster, but I can easily upgrade it with a single swing of the wrench if everything goes as planned

  • @Prisma_Axolotl
    @Prisma_Axolotl Před 2 lety +1

    I wish we had a pda or wrench that could limit sentry level to two, would be good for offense or revengineering packing some power but still being replaceable somewhat

  • @keecko8169
    @keecko8169 Před rokem

    a big upsidee for the lvl 3 when being put down is that when it finishes the animations for lvl 2, it will auto lock onto a target, meaning it doesnt have to wait anytime after becoming lvl 3 to start shooting, you can tell it has autolocked because in the time after the lvl 2 animations finish and level 3 begin, you'll hear the sound of a sentry gun that has no ammo shooting

  • @blazewolf5495
    @blazewolf5495 Před 5 lety +6

    Dane: Purple where is your defence!?
    Purple: I am the defence!
    People who have seen “how it feels to play engineer” will get this

  • @mipcrazeold
    @mipcrazeold Před 5 lety +20

    Meanwhile on lazy purple servers "someone kill the Uncle Dane wannabe!"

  • @Gabriel-l
    @Gabriel-l Před 3 lety +3

    0:20 holy moly, that almost sounded like idubbz

  • @Veanixonn_
    @Veanixonn_ Před 3 lety +2

    In short:
    Level 1 Sentry: Fast to build, low damage
    Level 2 Sentry: Fast to build, high damage, perfect for assualt
    Level 3 Sentry: Slow to build, huge damage, perfect for defending