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@@abelplays9237Exactly the reasons in the video. Ferguson is tied for longest win streak in lightweight division. He’s lost every fight now after the Gaethje loss. He went from being respected and feared to viewed as a joke to lots.
@@user-xx8dd3rk6o Dustin actually is the one who got knocked out most recently by Justin when fighting for the BMF belt, Dustins last fight wasnt against Justin either he KOed Benoit Saint-Denis
Tony Ferguson didn’t just lose to Gathje, he took more punishment than I think I’ve ever saw anyone take. I was actually hoping they would stop the fight. Not because I wanted Justin to win but because Tony was absorbing life changing damage and showed zero signs he was coming back.
My father who has watched like every combat sport since the 60’s said it’s the most punishment he’s ever seen anyone take. He watched that cotto fight when margarito had cement wraps in his gloves also. The only one he could compare it to was Dyuk ku Kim and Ray Mancini (where he actually beat him to death in the ring) and a less extreme one Robert “the ghost” guerrero vs yoshihiro kamegai boxing. That 5th had me go from fan to worried. We both started tearing up. It was rough watching someone get beat like that.
@@aerodynamicsalamander I’ve never been a boxing guy but I’ve been watching MMA since UFC 1 and very few times have I felt worried for someone watching a fight. This one was definitely the worst I’ve seen. Honorable mention to Johanna vs Weilei when JJ’s head looked like mega mind!
Totally his own corner at fault there. A fighter wanting to continue fighting is normal, it's his job, he's the executioner of the plan for that battle no matter what. So it's on the corner to be the reasonable part to stop the fight if there is no chance of winning anymore, and to protect the fighter's health so the fighter can come back next time with an adjusted and improved skillset. Ferguson's corner failed him big time and let his body and mind get ruined to a degree he couldn't ever come back again.
I think the Gaethje fight actually covered up the fact that Tony’s body is failing him. His body was starting to break after years of absorbing unreal levels of pain. Any last chance he had of being a top ranked fighter, Justin beat that out of him. To where now, in the octagon, he just looks like a fragile version of what he once was. He can’t move as well, he gets thrown around more but his refusal to give up just makes it worse.
He’ll continue to fight no matter what until he loses the ability to. If the UFC release him, he’ll just get a contract elsewhere. No matter how many times he gets punched in the face or thrown on the ground, he still think he can do it but his body just won’t allow it. Mind of a champion, body of a 50 year old man.
I think when a fight at the top beating the best are on a winning streak they believe they litterally cant lose they are too good to lose and then bam they get a reality check and never get that mindset back there is always doubt now as well as all the work and effort and years building thier winning streak then having to start over now older what a mind **** to know you have to start that streak from scratch again feeling like you went backwards years in thier career i might be hard still have the drive feeling you went backwards so far and now its many more years to get back where you were seems like it might me hard to dig for it kinda like how maybe you seen it or been here when you on a nice win streak on a game or something and you eat a loss and just lose that morale start getting mad and going on auto pilot and think those first few wins should be easy and start playing worse each game and whatever you are thinking about my rant the answer is yes you are probably right😮😂😅
@@cuckmeister3193 he won’t though. I hate saying it but the way he’s going, Tony won’t live to see 50. The way he’s getting beaten up, on top of all of the beatings he has taken over his career, are only going to worsen his physical and mental state even more than it already is.
@@smerkishjay503He was supposed to fight Khabib & that would've been an amazing fight! Prime Tony probably would've still lost, but khabib wouldn't be able to keep up with his striking.
@@Zylothical Well I guess they were scared of each other, they both pulled out at one point or another ( it was also canceled bc of the pandemic ) That fight not happening isn't just on khabib.
I think taking a good break after a loss should be done more to recover mentally and physically, I think Izzy is doing it smart by taking time off especially after such a big loss
@@kc-io7ct yea for Tony’s case I agree, taking the Justin fight short notice few years back was risky enough but on top of that he cut weight twice for it, after the Justin fight I think he should’ve taken a full year off but his age was already in the conversation at that point
@@supersaiyanyoshi1175yh it was mental to fight Charles 6 months after the fight against gaethje. Should’ve taken a year off and he may have come back different. He took a year off before the chandler fight and he actually looked good before the ko
@@kanethesevenfootmonster868 he never took Charles offer to train? I was always under the impression he did but you are right I don’t recall ever seeing them together training
@@Cpartty What it means is before their lose, these men didnt see themselves as human, they thought they where almost god like, unbeatable if you will. However once someone reminds them that they are infact just human, its hard to get back into that mindset.
@@igorivanov299 no... he never lost because he stopped fighting. he retired, at the age of 32. if he continued, somebody would have likely gotten him eventually. you can't stay in your prime forever
People forget it isnt just mental or physical strain. Many times when someone loses they reveal a weakness any coach will take advantage of in the future.
Even on the ufc game. I'm ranked top 20 in Australia, I'll go on thirty fight win streaks and then lose 3 in a row. If you're not on a roll you lose a lot of quick thinking skills
yeah but at least tonight he just got caught up and got his back taken first round, he was doing good on the feet hopefully his next fight ends the loss streak
@@Liamthemaestrohe needs to retire atp honestly.. I’d rather see him on the sideline rather than in the cage being that guy people beat to prove they’re ready to be in the top 10.. he’s almost becoming like Derrick Lewis
Tai was never an elite talent though. He did okay in a shallow division. Tony went 12 fights unbeaten in the most stacked weight class, Barao was an even better example. He was the p4p #1 in some eyes.
Tony had every disadvantage going into the Gaethje fight. He was 36, trained for the exact opposite style of fighter, had a very bad injury before that too. Tony got screwed by the UFC too hard through his career to call it quits. He was objectively the best fighter in the division for a while but never got to fight for the title because Conor and Khabib were the biggest stars in the company and therefore were allowed to hold the title without defending it for far too long . He asked Conor to defend or vacate twice and had his fight with Khabib cancelled too many times *Edit* He also didn't have his coach cageside. He had Eddie Bravo who admitted himself that he didn't do a good job, because that's not his job and specifically asked to not be the cageside coach.
But let’s not act like gaethje wasn’t fighting on short notice against tony, he was even knocked down in the second round, and he still came back, adjusted, and gave Tony his first TKO loss on short notice, Tony wasn’t the only one fighting at a disadvantage.
@@user-kf3is7bt2v L take. Tony is a well rounded fighter who on that specific camp focused on his bjj. Gaethje is a one dimensional fighter so much so that he didn't even take top position against a Charles he just knocked down because he knew he'd be at a disadvantage despite the advantageous position. Also short notice when you're on your physical peak isn't the same as a 36 year old who had recently torn his ACL.
@@HlebHD everyone knows what you said, gaethje is primarily a striker, and you said yourself that Tony is a well rounded fighter, then why did he not submit gaethje to beat him up on the ground? even though everyone knows how good Tony’s grappling is, he could’ve literally done the same thing that he did against barboza, he was literally on an 12 fight win streak with most of them being finishes, he was still good, and gaethje still came on short notice, got knocked down in the second round, and still handed tony his first TKO loss.
Tony is always willing to take a shot to give a shot. That takes its toll. I hate to see these guys who are warriors in the ring suffer the consequences. I know they chose it, but we all cheer for them and then forget about them. Thats a rough life.
It reminds me of geometry dash levels. There are levels that no one thought were possible to beat, and when one guy beat them, everyone started beating them as well.
Idk if brain effect is the main cause. I think this is more because be a victorious fighter requiered an unbelievable confidence, an immortality feeling. Only one bad humbling loss can destroy it for ever
If one adopts the mindset “failure makes me humbler and more determined”, then they won’t fold after taking losses. Losing is a part of the game, and you have to keep rising every time you fall.
@@theymademepickaname1248 it’s a mindset that one adopts in life that changes your paradigm. Okay, so maybe you don’t succeed in high level athletics, on the other hand, there are many other areas in life where you can succeed. High level athletics are not the only path in life.
Do you not know how brain damage works. I don’t care if you’re god. If you get punched in the face as much as tony has eventually that take a damage on your brain where you can’t move as well, can’t take as many shots. I’m sure you’re saying your opinion with 0 fighting experience. Try having 10 fights, get fked up every single time and see if your brain is the same after that. I don’t honk you understand how brain damage works.
Yeah. That's sad how UFC was unfair to him. Everytime ignoring his title fight. Giving champ fight for Khabib against McNuggets although there already was active interim champ.
no one forced him to fight gaethje and cut weight twice. He was the first in succession line, khabib was literally waiting for him, but he had to make a point during covid, underestimated the risk and paid the price. He has no one to blame but himself khabib explained clearly: "this guy stupid".
@@stefanob.5251 Honestly, Tony should've gotten the belt already and defended it against either Khabib or Conor instead of having to challenge them. Dude had 12 fight win streak ! He should've gotten a Title match at 9th or 8th ! Heck fighters like Adesanya and Conor had their title match after 5th win streak. Tony should've been the champ already but because he wasn’t as popular, he didn’t get a title match.
when gaethje's corner told him to start throwing at 70% is when this whole thing went downhill for tony. Gaethje's accuracy went through the roof but it was more like stiff jabs hitting tony. There wasn't enough power behind these punches to put him away so tony just kept absorbing the damage. This similar to having boxing gloves on. I remember not being able to watch the whole fight because of the amount of damage tony was taking. It truly was a sad moment to see.
Tony was different he didn't lose a fight and fall off. His knee got torn apart and he was never the same. Never should have fought again... should have retired on top
It’s true examples are Leon Edwards’s and Charles do bronx b4 being champs they were good but didn’t have champion mentality and grit now they both knot they are the man and think they are champ
If you grew up undefeated like 12 matches you gain so much confidence but one loss can destroy all that confidence you need gain it back before it’s late
Ever since he got injured wearing the sunglasses at the press conference vs Khabib he was never the same. I still would love to see him win, he's definitely a motivator.
It seems to me that mentale is the most important aspect in fighting sports. The moment you start losing you also lose control of what you can do, confidence is no longer there to assist you.
Pride goeth before the fall. Once David defeated Goliath others rose up to defeat the other giants. When you no longer fear someone and see their weakness you win.
I see Tony’s story as less of a sad story and more of an inspirational one. I mean this mf has every reason to retire but he just isn’t giving up. He believes in himself that much
I think the problem stems from how that fighter affects his peers and those coming up behind him. When nobody knows you are great, they are easy to defeat. When everybody knows you are great, they prepare accordingly and they tailor that preparation to defeat you, specifically. There is militarism: "Do not fight the same enemy too often.", but in this age of information, with video and multiple perspective analysis, and mass production of equipment and even training strategies, it is nigh impossible to surprise another player.
I wonder if its a mental thing from the fighter side or a mental thing from the opposition side. Like now that they know he can be beat its not as threatening anymore
I can't get him shaking his head like a wounded animal after Gaethje cracked him out of my head. That shit was hard to watch. Then Chandler tried to decapitate him and did 32 backflips while Tony was dying lol.
It's not as much the one loss as it is the timing of it. That one loss usually comes in their mid 30s after sustaining years of fights and hardcore training camps. That same loss in their mid or even late 20s is not going to have the same effect
In some ways, fighters like GSP who did have losses in their career and immediately won the rematch and got their loss back, i feel like in some ways are better fighters than people who never lost to begin with. Like Joe said, having to navigate a loss in your career when you've only known success can be absolutely devastating to a fighter. So any fighter that can overcome that and come back arguably even better the couple times they did lose? Like GSP specifically. I just feel like thats a top 5 fighter in body mind and soul
Anyone can loose no matter how good your doing in your prime but I guess some people have a big ego that when they loose they feel like they’re nothing cause they want wins every time and not learn how to loose sometimes understanding that we can loose no matter how good we are is the best way to overcome failure when you lost in your first time
That’s exactly the point. When you let your ego cloud your thinking, and become big headed; failure is extremely painful and devastating. Learning how to win and lose with dignity will make you stay humble.
@@Alburr250 yea but is not about being that humble you can have confidence cause that’s good for your mentality but over confidence can make you think that you are untouchable until you get a L for the first time and you fall of because you realize that you’re human like everyone else cause he’s saying this like it happens to everybody and I don’t think that cause boxers like Mike Tyson Muhammad Ali lost in their prime and that dint let them they came stronger then ever because every time you loose you learn and even Connor mcgregor I know this might sound controversial cause he’s know for trash talking a lot to he’s opponents but when he got beat first he dint go down like the rest of other fighters cause he knew he could lost like I know that he’s a villain and he says the most disgusting things to he’s opponents putting family in the conversation which is why I don’t respect but at least he understands that he can loose and come back from a lost that’s the only respect I have for him but other then that I’m not gonna say he’s a good guy. There’s also a saying that says is ok to have fear sometimes cause that means you smarter than the guy who’s very overconfident having fear you realize that your opponent is dangerous and you are aware of everything that’s he’s capable which gives you battle IQ in the fight while the guy who’s confident don’t feel any fear but will lead he’s guard down cause of he’s overconfidence he’s unaware on what he’s opponent can loose and that could give him a big lost cause of he’s blind ego
It depends. It could be psychological or could be small amounts of brain damage. Depending on the person they may never recover again. I liked how GSP spent all his money to train after a loss and went all around the world to the best trainers. GSP ROCKS.
Tony was taking clean shots in all of hes fights. It was obvious he's gonna have brain demage and Justin made it happen faster by hitting him with like 150 clean shots in one fight
Tony started slowing down significantly in his Donald Cerrone fight. 35 is that age where shit goes downhill. The Justin fight just finished the job a little quicker. He was 36 by the Justin fight, IIRC.
Pains me to see Volk’s falloff. Bro was untouchable and absolutely demolishing everybody. The decisions he made and his coaching staff failed him. Fighting such a big fight with no camp and fighting so often. Doesn’t matter how tough you are you need to rest your body. We can only pray he comes back for one last hurrah before retiring considering his age
I love Tony and I respect him for trying his ass off after he fell off the peak of the mountain. Truly a warriors spirit, his words ehhh Tony was an ass but I always loved how he was feared as a bloody gladiator type.
This happened is many sports, the problem is fighters can’t take that much punishment during the losing streak. If a batter misses several balls for a bunch of games, he’s in a slump and nothing else happens. If a fighter is in a slump, he gets destroyed several times. Just not much chance to come back from that
i truly felt sorry for a nice person like him after he passed his prime the ufc start feeding him to new fighter to make them famous wish is disgusting
Same thing happened to Cam Newton. I think it was Denver knocked the hit out of him multiple times in a game. Was never the same after that. He quit trying to run the ball, he was overly hurried. It clearly got in his head and never left.
Tony Fergusons story is a sad story .
Why
@@abelplays9237Exactly the reasons in the video. Ferguson is tied for longest win streak in lightweight division. He’s lost every fight now after the Gaethje loss. He went from being respected and feared to viewed as a joke to lots.
He got humbled, and couldnt deal with it, that's insecurities, i wont shed a tear for a dude saying he's the shit when he's just a man
@@zomkinocouldn’t deal with it? He kind of had knee surgery and started too age idk what he’s suppose to do
@@zomkinoLook at this bum who would never be able to even touch Tony's pinky achievement talking sh!t. 😂😂😂
gaethje gave tony some sort of brain damage. the gaethje effect is real.
No, he just realized he could lose, that he wasnt unbeatable, and that destroyed his confidence, he's became a noob, deserved
@@zomkinoI think it's a good combo of both
@@zomkinobro how much hatoraide you high off of to hate on Tony like that
Porier ko dude in his last fight
@@user-xx8dd3rk6o Dustin actually is the one who got knocked out most recently by Justin when fighting for the BMF belt, Dustins last fight wasnt against Justin either he KOed Benoit Saint-Denis
Tony Ferguson didn’t just lose to Gathje, he took more punishment than I think I’ve ever saw anyone take. I was actually hoping they would stop the fight. Not because I wanted Justin to win but because Tony was absorbing life changing damage and showed zero signs he was coming back.
when he cracked him and dude just like was unsure of what to do besides hop around yah brain damage
@@Nipdog when he started shaking his head after eating another bomb at the end I was sure I was witnessing a murder on live tv 👀
My father who has watched like every combat sport since the 60’s said it’s the most punishment he’s ever seen anyone take. He watched that cotto fight when margarito had cement wraps in his gloves also. The only one he could compare it to was Dyuk ku Kim and Ray Mancini (where he actually beat him to death in the ring) and a less extreme one Robert “the ghost” guerrero vs yoshihiro kamegai boxing. That 5th had me go from fan to worried. We both started tearing up. It was rough watching someone get beat like that.
@@aerodynamicsalamander I’ve never been a boxing guy but I’ve been watching MMA since UFC 1 and very few times have I felt worried for someone watching a fight. This one was definitely the worst I’ve seen. Honorable mention to Johanna vs Weilei when JJ’s head looked like mega mind!
Totally his own corner at fault there. A fighter wanting to continue fighting is normal, it's his job, he's the executioner of the plan for that battle no matter what. So it's on the corner to be the reasonable part to stop the fight if there is no chance of winning anymore, and to protect the fighter's health so the fighter can come back next time with an adjusted and improved skillset. Ferguson's corner failed him big time and let his body and mind get ruined to a degree he couldn't ever come back again.
I think the Gaethje fight actually covered up the fact that Tony’s body is failing him. His body was starting to break after years of absorbing unreal levels of pain. Any last chance he had of being a top ranked fighter, Justin beat that out of him. To where now, in the octagon, he just looks like a fragile version of what he once was. He can’t move as well, he gets thrown around more but his refusal to give up just makes it worse.
He’ll continue to fight no matter what until he loses the ability to. If the UFC release him, he’ll just get a contract elsewhere. No matter how many times he gets punched in the face or thrown on the ground, he still think he can do it but his body just won’t allow it. Mind of a champion, body of a 50 year old man.
I think when a fight at the top beating the best are on a winning streak they believe they litterally cant lose they are too good to lose and then bam they get a reality check and never get that mindset back there is always doubt now as well as all the work and effort and years building thier winning streak then having to start over now older what a mind **** to know you have to start that streak from scratch again feeling like you went backwards years in thier career i might be hard still have the drive feeling you went backwards so far and now its many more years to get back where you were seems like it might me hard to dig for it kinda like how maybe you seen it or been here when you on a nice win streak on a game or something and you eat a loss and just lose that morale start getting mad and going on auto pilot and think those first few wins should be easy and start playing worse each game and whatever you are thinking about my rant the answer is yes you are probably right😮😂😅
@@bigrandomun9267he should just devote himself to training for now
@@cuckmeister3193 he won’t though. I hate saying it but the way he’s going, Tony won’t live to see 50. The way he’s getting beaten up, on top of all of the beatings he has taken over his career, are only going to worsen his physical and mental state even more than it already is.
Real.......
Tony deserved to become champion in his prime
I like Tony but u deserve to become champion by beating the champ. He didn’t do that but his title shot shoulda came sooner
He never had the chance tho because khabib retired just before their fight
Too bad Khabib got scared
@@smerkishjay503He was supposed to fight Khabib & that would've been an amazing fight!
Prime Tony probably would've still lost, but khabib wouldn't be able to keep up with his striking.
@@Zylothical Well I guess they were scared of each other, they both pulled out at one point or another ( it was also canceled bc of the pandemic ) That fight not happening isn't just on khabib.
I think taking a good break after a loss should be done more to recover mentally and physically, I think Izzy is doing it smart by taking time off especially after such a big loss
@@kc-io7ct yea for Tony’s case I agree, taking the Justin fight short notice few years back was risky enough but on top of that he cut weight twice for it, after the Justin fight I think he should’ve taken a full year off but his age was already in the conversation at that point
@@supersaiyanyoshi1175yh it was mental to fight Charles 6 months after the fight against gaethje. Should’ve taken a year off and he may have come back different. He took a year off before the chandler fight and he actually looked good before the ko
@@pavasite4278Tony Was Dumb, If He Took Charles Offer He Could Have Actually Beat Nate Diaz and Make a Good Run At 170.......
yhhh
@@kanethesevenfootmonster868 he never took Charles offer to train? I was always under the impression he did but you are right I don’t recall ever seeing them together training
They learn they are simply human and its hard to come back from that.
Hard to come back from being a human? I'm not native in english but this sentence seems off
@@Cpartty What it means is before their lose, these men didnt see themselves as human, they thought they where almost god like, unbeatable if you will.
However once someone reminds them that they are infact just human, its hard to get back into that mindset.
@@Cpartty he basically said they got humbled and fell off after realizing other people can beat them
@kc-io7ct They are warriors are heart so will never accept it, not untill its staring them in the face and they cant get away from it.
@kc-io7ctDon't Say Shit like that buddy, it Isn't fun, dork.......
Tony's run was insane, but as long as you keep fighting there will come a day you lose
Rocky Marciano was immune from such a statement.
@@igorivanov299 no... he never lost because he stopped fighting. he retired, at the age of 32. if he continued, somebody would have likely gotten him eventually. you can't stay in your prime forever
People forget it isnt just mental or physical strain. Many times when someone loses they reveal a weakness any coach will take advantage of in the future.
clever answer
Yup, lots of people forget this fact.
Mindset in that line of work is very important.
Even on the ufc game. I'm ranked top 20 in Australia, I'll go on thirty fight win streaks and then lose 3 in a row. If you're not on a roll you lose a lot of quick thinking skills
@@lachlanm7149Real........
A lot of the "falling off" is just getting old. Fighters start losing when they get old, and right around 35-36 is when that starts to happen.
Gaethje is a walking cte dispenser
Tai Tuivasa?
Dude just today lost and now that’s 4 in a row
yeah but at least tonight he just got caught up and got his back taken first round, he was doing good on the feet hopefully his next fight ends the loss streak
Derrick Lewis too
@@Liamthemaestrohe needs to retire atp honestly.. I’d rather see him on the sideline rather than in the cage being that guy people beat to prove they’re ready to be in the top 10.. he’s almost becoming like Derrick Lewis
Gane destroyed his liver 😢
Tai was never an elite talent though. He did okay in a shallow division. Tony went 12 fights unbeaten in the most stacked weight class, Barao was an even better example. He was the p4p #1 in some eyes.
Tony had every disadvantage going into the Gaethje fight. He was 36, trained for the exact opposite style of fighter, had a very bad injury before that too. Tony got screwed by the UFC too hard through his career to call it quits. He was objectively the best fighter in the division for a while but never got to fight for the title because Conor and Khabib were the biggest stars in the company and therefore were allowed to hold the title without defending it for far too long . He asked Conor to defend or vacate twice and had his fight with Khabib cancelled too many times
*Edit* He also didn't have his coach cageside. He had Eddie Bravo who admitted himself that he didn't do a good job, because that's not his job and specifically asked to not be the cageside coach.
But let’s not act like gaethje wasn’t fighting on short notice against tony, he was even knocked down in the second round, and he still came back, adjusted, and gave Tony his first TKO loss on short notice, Tony wasn’t the only one fighting at a disadvantage.
@@user-kf3is7bt2v L take. Tony is a well rounded fighter who on that specific camp focused on his bjj. Gaethje is a one dimensional fighter so much so that he didn't even take top position against a Charles he just knocked down because he knew he'd be at a disadvantage despite the advantageous position. Also short notice when you're on your physical peak isn't the same as a 36 year old who had recently torn his ACL.
@@HlebHD everyone knows what you said, gaethje is primarily a striker, and you said yourself that Tony is a well rounded fighter, then why did he not submit gaethje to beat him up on the ground? even though everyone knows how good Tony’s grappling is, he could’ve literally done the same thing that he did against barboza, he was literally on an 12 fight win streak with most of them being finishes, he was still good, and gaethje still came on short notice, got knocked down in the second round, and still handed tony his first TKO loss.
@@user-kf3is7bt2v It's very hard to get through to you
The only thing I will add is that Tony disadvantaged himself in that fight by cutting weight twice for no real reason.
"Im just barely hitting my prime"👹
Tony’s sheer will won’t let him stay down and it’s so sad wish him the best
Tony is always willing to take a shot to give a shot. That takes its toll. I hate to see these guys who are warriors in the ring suffer the consequences. I know they chose it, but we all cheer for them and then forget about them. Thats a rough life.
The bonk sound effect on the Volk headkick 😭
It reminds me of geometry dash levels. There are levels that no one thought were possible to beat, and when one guy beat them, everyone started beating them as well.
Idk if brain effect is the main cause. I think this is more because be a victorious fighter requiered an unbelievable confidence, an immortality feeling. Only one bad humbling loss can destroy it for ever
Such a serious video... then you hear the "Boop" sound effect 😂😂
They don’t lose there ability, they lose there mind set. They go from killer to fighter
It's because everyone will train to fight you or your style once they see it that's why the internet is so dangerous.
If one adopts the mindset “failure makes me humbler and more determined”, then they won’t fold after taking losses. Losing is a part of the game, and you have to keep rising every time you fall.
Not in high level athletics. Maybe if they're are very young they can regroup and surge, but for the most part, you get one shot.
@@theymademepickaname1248 it’s a mindset that one adopts in life that changes your paradigm. Okay, so maybe you don’t succeed in high level athletics, on the other hand, there are many other areas in life where you can succeed. High level athletics are not the only path in life.
@@Alburr250did you even watch the video?
You think top athletes don't have this mindset? They do and eventually they lose it
Do you not know how brain damage works. I don’t care if you’re god. If you get punched in the face as much as tony has eventually that take a damage on your brain where you can’t move as well, can’t take as many shots. I’m sure you’re saying your opinion with 0 fighting experience. Try having 10 fights, get fked up every single time and see if your brain is the same after that. I don’t honk you understand how brain damage works.
Yeah. That's sad how UFC was unfair to him. Everytime ignoring his title fight. Giving champ fight for Khabib against McNuggets although there already was active interim champ.
Tony should've gotten the title fight before Conor. His 9th fight win streak should've been the title fight and have his belt.
no one forced him to fight gaethje and cut weight twice. He was the first in succession line, khabib was literally waiting for him, but he had to make a point during covid, underestimated the risk and paid the price.
He has no one to blame but himself
khabib explained clearly: "this guy stupid".
@@stefanob.5251 Honestly, Tony should've gotten the belt already and defended it against either Khabib or Conor instead of having to challenge them. Dude had 12 fight win streak !
He should've gotten a Title match at 9th or 8th !
Heck fighters like Adesanya and Conor had their title match after 5th win streak.
Tony should've been the champ already but because he wasn’t as popular, he didn’t get a title match.
Conor McGregor even danawhite said that you have to be an actor and entertainer and a fighter you have to sell fights
when gaethje's corner told him to start throwing at 70% is when this whole thing went downhill for tony. Gaethje's accuracy went through the roof but it was more like stiff jabs hitting tony. There wasn't enough power behind these punches to put him away so tony just kept absorbing the damage. This similar to having boxing gloves on. I remember not being able to watch the whole fight because of the amount of damage tony was taking. It truly was a sad moment to see.
Tony Ferguson: NAH ID WIN.
Mike Tyson:I DONT GIVE A $h1+
ngas always gotta bring tyson into this. dawg they work in completely separate organizations. ur stupid
Tony was different he didn't lose a fight and fall off. His knee got torn apart and he was never the same. Never should have fought again... should have retired on top
Even khabib was afraid of him
Khabib would mope the floor with his face lol😂
@@Polar-pencil he was missing weight for a purpose. he didn't have the confidence to face Tony..
The sound effect on the head kick was hilarious 😂
Thats why coming back and winning is more impressive than a win streak, the unbeatable mindset makes you truely scary
It’s true examples are Leon Edwards’s and Charles do bronx b4 being champs they were good but didn’t have champion mentality and grit now they both knot they are the man and think they are champ
Like when geogre forman came back
Justin permanently changed Tony’s brain. He has never been the same since, Tony was to tough for his own good that fight.
If you grew up undefeated like 12 matches you gain so much confidence but one loss can destroy all that confidence you need gain it back before it’s late
Its a mental sport too once you show weakness thats when the wolves come
Bro the way he danced in blood was Terrifying💀
If something rises, someone falls - *a wise man*
I feel like Tony is one of those fighters that we se on tv shaking and barely talking and walking because of the punushment they took in their prime.
1 war, 1 bad ko can change you forever.
succeeding makes it more likely to succeed in the future and failing makes it more likely to fail.
Ever since he got injured wearing the sunglasses at the press conference vs Khabib he was never the same. I still would love to see him win, he's definitely a motivator.
Great example of the winner and loser effect
Sometimes that bounce back just don't come back
Tony will always be my top 5
They’re also usually at the top so on the way down they’re just fighting monsters back to back
”Success breathes confidence, and confidence breathes success”
It seems to me that mentale is the most important aspect in fighting sports.
The moment you start losing you also lose control of what you can do, confidence is no longer there to assist you.
Pride goeth before the fall. Once David defeated Goliath others rose up to defeat the other giants. When you no longer fear someone and see their weakness you win.
I see Tony’s story as less of a sad story and more of an inspirational one. I mean this mf has every reason to retire but he just isn’t giving up. He believes in himself that much
This why people protect their records like its their health not mad at them
*Justin is literally everyone’s nightmare if they’re in their prime*
Rhonda rousey is a great example of this.
Tony was the man. I will still watch Tony Ferguson fight.
Bro wants the longest losing streak, too, just to test himself
It happens a lot at the top when there is nothing else to aim for, only things to lose. That underdog 'prove yourself' fire disappears.
Tony Vs Khabib would have been an interesting study if it happened, since their grappling styles complimented eachother
I think the problem stems from how that fighter affects his peers and those coming up behind him.
When nobody knows you are great, they are easy to defeat. When everybody knows you are great, they prepare accordingly and they tailor that preparation to defeat you, specifically.
There is militarism: "Do not fight the same enemy too often.", but in this age of information, with video and multiple perspective analysis, and mass production of equipment and even training strategies, it is nigh impossible to surprise another player.
I think it’s simply age and the abuse on their bodies catching up, and when it hits it’s hard to overcome
Gaethje hit like truck 🛻- Khabib
Tony made me the fan of this sport and taught me why I should hate it
I wonder if its a mental thing from the fighter side or a mental thing from the opposition side. Like now that they know he can be beat its not as threatening anymore
I can't get him shaking his head like a wounded animal after Gaethje cracked him out of my head. That shit was hard to watch. Then Chandler tried to decapitate him and did 32 backflips while Tony was dying lol.
when
it only takes one person to prove the impossible possible
Tonys fighting spirit was to hard it burnt him down.
I honestly feel that chandler head kick messed tony up the most
That was the nail on the coffin.
It just finished the job, Justins hand are soul reapers
facts it was like the last thing that sent him off the cliff. he was laying out cold for minutes
Tony will never give up taking brain damage.🤷♂️
Watching Tony turn his back and run away from Justin was the saddest thing I've seen in the octagon. Justin broke him
That last bit was uncalled for
Tony's corner failed him and ruined his career.
It's not as much the one loss as it is the timing of it. That one loss usually comes in their mid 30s after sustaining years of fights and hardcore training camps. That same loss in their mid or even late 20s is not going to have the same effect
Who keeps adding coconut sounds to those concussions
😅
Me
Tony Ferguson looks straight up terrifying in the gray clip.
Bcs ITS gray clip
In some ways, fighters like GSP who did have losses in their career and immediately won the rematch and got their loss back, i feel like in some ways are better fighters than people who never lost to begin with. Like Joe said, having to navigate a loss in your career when you've only known success can be absolutely devastating to a fighter. So any fighter that can overcome that and come back arguably even better the couple times they did lose? Like GSP specifically. I just feel like thats a top 5 fighter in body mind and soul
The saddest part is knowing the kind of person tony is and knowing he's not gonna stop until he physically can't fight
This is what happens when you don't retire at your peak....
"A Gungi champion becomes an average player once he loses his first match"
Komugi
it's almost like loseing a streak
Tony will win 1 more fight then either retire or go on another losing streak which eventually leads to retirement
Tony got tripped up by cords in the back and it fuqed his knee up and he had to have surgery. Took away some of his speed and ability. Man was a dawg
Khabib actually said no one takes that much damage and remain the same. He said he knew tony wouldn't be the same after that fight.
Anyone can loose no matter how good your doing in your prime but I guess some people have a big ego that when they loose they feel like they’re nothing cause they want wins every time and not learn how to loose sometimes understanding that we can loose no matter how good we are is the best way to overcome failure when you lost in your first time
That’s exactly the point. When you let your ego cloud your thinking, and become big headed; failure is extremely painful and devastating. Learning how to win and lose with dignity will make you stay humble.
@@Alburr250 yea but is not about being that humble you can have confidence cause that’s good for your mentality but over confidence can make you think that you are untouchable until you get a L for the first time and you fall of because you realize that you’re human like everyone else cause he’s saying this like it happens to everybody and I don’t think that cause boxers like Mike Tyson Muhammad Ali lost in their prime and that dint let them they came stronger then ever because every time you loose you learn and even Connor mcgregor I know this might sound controversial cause he’s know for trash talking a lot to he’s opponents but when he got beat first he dint go down like the rest of other fighters cause he knew he could lost like I know that he’s a villain and he says the most disgusting things to he’s opponents putting family in the conversation which is why I don’t respect but at least he understands that he can loose and come back from a lost that’s the only respect I have for him but other then that I’m not gonna say he’s a good guy. There’s also a saying that says is ok to have fear sometimes cause that means you smarter than the guy who’s very overconfident having fear you realize that your opponent is dangerous and you are aware of everything that’s he’s capable which gives you battle IQ in the fight while the guy who’s confident don’t feel any fear but will lead he’s guard down cause of he’s overconfidence he’s unaware on what he’s opponent can loose and that could give him a big lost cause of he’s blind ego
Ego always ruins a man, remember that dudes.
You gotta know when not to listen to your ego and just quit while your body/mind is healthy enough to enjoy the rest of your years.
It depends. It could be psychological or could be small amounts of brain damage. Depending on the person they may never recover again.
I liked how GSP spent all his money to train after a loss and went all around the world to the best trainers. GSP ROCKS.
Tony was taking clean shots in all of hes fights. It was obvious he's gonna have brain demage and Justin made it happen faster by hitting him with like 150 clean shots in one fight
Tony started slowing down significantly in his Donald Cerrone fight. 35 is that age where shit goes downhill. The Justin fight just finished the job a little quicker. He was 36 by the Justin fight, IIRC.
"Gaethje hits like a truck" - Khabib
Those bonks are wild
To go from the best in your division to a sacrificial lamb is tragic.
Pains me to see Volk’s falloff. Bro was untouchable and absolutely demolishing everybody. The decisions he made and his coaching staff failed him. Fighting such a big fight with no camp and fighting so often. Doesn’t matter how tough you are you need to rest your body. We can only pray he comes back for one last hurrah before retiring considering his age
I love Tony and I respect him for trying his ass off after he fell off the peak of the mountain. Truly a warriors spirit, his words ehhh Tony was an ass but I always loved how he was feared as a bloody gladiator type.
This happened is many sports, the problem is fighters can’t take that much punishment during the losing streak.
If a batter misses several balls for a bunch of games, he’s in a slump and nothing else happens.
If a fighter is in a slump, he gets destroyed several times.
Just not much chance to come back from that
Khabib was 100% correct.
"Tony is done. You never fully recover after a beating like that."
"No king rules forever my son" ~ Terenas Menethil II
My favorite fighter ever.
i truly felt sorry for a nice person like him after he passed his prime the ufc start feeding him to new fighter to make them famous wish is disgusting
"He loses to Gaethje"....bit of an understatement. Gaethje took his fucking soul.
Same thing happened to Cam Newton. I think it was Denver knocked the hit out of him multiple times in a game. Was never the same after that. He quit trying to run the ball, he was overly hurried. It clearly got in his head and never left.
Just proof you shouldnt hype somebody that doesnt belong there.
Its a Mental thing for Tony... He need to have the confidence to make the decisions.
We just going to ignore Tony having one of the craziest home life situations during his fall off plus the whole khabib vs tony curse.