Battle Of The $100ish Custom Keyboards... And The Winner Is?!
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- #keybored Battle Of The $100ish Keyboards... And The Winner Is?!
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So... nowadays, you don't have to spend an arm and leg to get a good keyboard... infact, a $100 keyboard is sooo good that it makes you wonder if you have to spend anymore than that for a legit custom. Today, we're gathering 4 amazing new keyboards to see which one of these is the king of the $100ish category! Let's check it out!
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Cycle7 by TKD
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NEO65 by Qwertykeys
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MKC75 by Mykeyclub
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Choice65 by Velocifire
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Gateron Baby Racoon Switches (Shown in MKC75)
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Haimu Raw Linears (Shown in NEO65)
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SOTC Linear Switches (Shown in Cycle7)
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DK Blueberry Swirl Linear Switches (Shown in Choice65)
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Mito Keysterine Keycaps (Shown on Cycle7)
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As much as I like your individual reviews, I do really like the comparison ones, it really helps put into perspective the different keyboards, especially for those of us looking at these keyboards and trying to better figure out what we want to invest in! I'm not about to have 20 keyboards, lol, have to be selective and when individual reviews tend to be very hype hype hype, it gets hard to understand what makes one different from another~! So thank you for this review! Is very helpful!
Thanks a lot for this video. We see lots of isolated reviews on specific recent boards but aggregating everything into a top for 1 usage / budget is VERY useful. I was in the process of merging info for a new board I'm looking into, so this video is both on point and on time for me!
Thank you so much! I'm glad it's of help, and I'll plan on doing more of these in the future as well!
Sound test time stamps for my and your convenience
Choice65 - 8:30
MKC75 - 11:36
Neo65 - 15:07
Cycle7 - 18:35
Thanks for the help!
Think Keybored is the first YTer to test the Neo!
This is the exact video I needed xD
Thank you for this
@@MrBeeastFan Idk why Keybored hasn't pinned it
Thanks!
Even if you like one of these more than the other, you have to admit that boards in this price range are significant improvements than boards in this price range in the past.
We were amazed at the QK65 for what it brought for the price, same with the Frog TKL, and now, we're seeing real competition with the Neos and Cycles of the world. All for affordable kits! Thanks for the vid as always, Scott.
I love this review format, it makes it way easier for people to make a purchase decision when they can see how a product excels and decide if they value that aspect of the product.
i love the timing of this video esp considering these are entering or are in pre order! i also hellaaa enjoy this comparison bc it really hits so many details abt one board that might otherwise be too short a video for just an individual board on its own! i would like thi to see a shoobs style comparison where the builds are as similar as posisboe in terms of the switches and caps so we can get a one to one conparison in sound tests! esp if were using a comparison as a pseudo buyers guide
I finished the video and really appreciated it! I love this type of video because there are so newbies like me in Discord servers asking which GB's are worth getting in on based on our needs. A lot of people can't answer those questions because they don't have the boards yet. I highly reccomend continuing to do reviews like this. Perhaps you can have separate comparison reviews and individual reviews if people are wanting more in depth content? Or even a monthly comparison video with the GB's that are coming out that month.
The Neo65 should get WAY more points simply for being the only keyboard here that supports VIA with the tri-mode PCB. That alone makes it 100x better.
Thank you for this video! With the number of keyboards coming out nowadays, its getting harder to keep up with everything and this helps, so thank you! Although I do prefer the usual keybored style, that you do, but this is very nice as well. A suggestion would be maybe you can do more indepth for some keyboards that truly interests you, e.g. new mounts or design or sound, while the rest which are slightly more "clockwork" can be put through this summary, from the manu style. Thanks again for your videos! :)
Absolutely wild to see the progression of the hobby! I bought a Bubble 75 back in the day (probably $350ish) based on this channel’s recommendation, and now the MKC75 has a bigger weight at less than half the cost, great stuff!! This is my first time hearing of the Neo 65, I love gummy o ring, but am really sad it sounds like it was underwhelming in that board. My bakaneko60 is the board in my collection that I’ve spent the most time with, and I’d definitely love for more people to get to exposed to that mounting style (if well-implemented).
This video is absolutley brilliant! would love to see more videos like this for more ranges of keyboards!
Thanks for the video! I do like that style of comparing the keyboards. Especially since I am eying some of the boards shown here at the moment :D
They all seem very solid, which is incredible considering the price. That finish of the Cycle7...
After seeing that there will also be a Neo75, I will probably wait for that one though. I just need an f-row. And my new keycaps wont arrive before october anyways :D
10/10 video, both for quality and timing. This format is amazing!
Great video pal. Thanks for the hard work. Like the new review style. Would love to see an equivalent video for high end or medium cost boards
Honestly QK's quality/price ratio is extremely hard to beat. I've been rocking the QK75 since its release and every time I put my hands on it it's always a pleasure. I have it in mint with long pole tactiles and osume mochi mint caps and it not only sounds and feels amazing, it looks great. Honestly they're probably my go-to company for anyone that wants a bit more hands-on and premium experience from a keyboard without breaking bank.
The only problem I have seen is that all the boards I have seen in reviews have their weight either scratched or damaged in someway.
@@luckykari9448 mine came in spotless and still is months later
I like this new format but I can see it being more demanding to make compared to looking at just a single keyboard, I'm fine with either though, thanks for all the good work and funny skits scott
Nice review format. It's my 2nd preferred after modding tips.
i like your both video format tho 😭, as individual video for each keyboard is more detailed, and i love it
One of your best videos so far! I really liked that new thing you've tried here. thank you so much for the great content!
Awesome video Scott, very nice to see how these keyboards compare to each other
Fantastic video , really helpful to people like me who are new and looking at keyboards.
Was that a keychron wrist reat ?
Love the new format and wow the Cycle7 sounds amazing
Thanks for the video and I like this new format in addition to the classic one. Both are great 👍
You already had me with the 1min 50s video ;)
A few years ago when I bought my first non-prebuilt board I had sub 100 dollar budget and it seemed like the only two options for a full hotswap board were a GMMK or a GK61, so the idea of a full metal 65% with a weight for 80 dollars just shows how much the hobby has innovated in a couple of years.
It's so wild! I can't believe the the NEO65 can be had at the same pricepoint as a GK61...
@@Keyboredcan't forget about the XinMeng A66 or M71!!
The fact that their groupbuys are all happening is really good for viewer looking to get one of these.
A nice followup comparison would be something from the in-stock choices that are out there just to give folks an idea of what they might be sacrificing over waiting for a board. The Akko M1W, Leobog Hi75, and Xinmeng M71 seem to be the latest in stock competition.
CIDOO V65 v2 (or other names) and V75 (LMK81). None of these channels want to cover them because they need to push the group buy scarcity boards. These other boards threaten that world.
@@jgould30 Creators are covering those boards but some that I mentioned are too new for creators outside of East Asia to cover them. I don't feel they really don't threaten these groupbuy boards... the groupbuys offer way more customization and choice than these products. While I enjoy those products for their availability, they are definitely not perfect and do have tradeoffs (the V65's low typing angle and crappy stabs), I feel it's still good to talk about them since no everyone can afford to wait or buy a more expensive groupbuy custom.
Hey Hyung, honestly we enjoy everything you provide for us to watch. Keep it going!
Just when we needed this comparison
Thank you
Have a Neo65 on the way, still trying to decide on what switches but have a few weeks to figure that out. I loved the comparison review!
Love this new format and wish it would be adopted for future reviews
I love the layout of the cycle7 and seeing how good it is in this video, I'm definitely gonna get it!
Thank you for this! Just got a new work from home job. Great timing on the video.
I like the concept of this video, but I don't quite agree with how the ranking/scoring system was implemented. I think it would be better to give them each an independent score because sometimes the gap between X and Y keyboard can be really tiny in one aspect, and huge in another. Making each delta always equal to 1 removes a lot of the nuance (and also, doesn't allow for ties)
If you gave every board some arbitrary score out of 5 (which you could still isolate to the boards, switches etc. being compared where your favorite was 5 and the worst was 0 or 1, there would be a lot more room for comparisons in a hobby whose foundation is built on preference and small differences
I fking love you steve. Your reviews are hands down the best. Nobody even comes close. Can i call you keygod instead???
I really appreciate all the finer points you made in this video. Thank you for sharing.
Press F to pay respects for the lost history of keybored's 1.50 mins video :O *Press F*
hahaha... yes, the first one went boom
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great video, however, i do have some feedback for this sort of comparison i feel you should give a fairer comparison and use the same switches for each board and if possible the same plate material.
I just got my Neo65. Blows me away that we can get this kind of quality of board for $100 now.
damn I really like this kind of videos, very good comparison point of view
Amazing video. I love the new format. 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you! I'll try to do more of these! But it takes so much time hahaha
This is great! How do you think these compare to the Tofu 65 2.0?
Awesome review! Thank you!
The different switches and keycaps do affect the typing sound, but honestly, I really dig the sound of Choice65. It reminds me of some of my other keyboards that cost over $200. Plus, they seem to ship it out just 15 days after the group buy ends, which is pretty awesome for an in-stock sale!
not to mention all of them have foam, ot ideal for comparing sound.
i highly recommend the neo 65 plateless witch the gasket pins or at least witch plate but with the gaskets instead of the o ring, the gaskets provide a much better sound profile
IMO i think the haimu raw's sound is pretty mild it self! Maybe you should try different switches on the neo65 to get a different result?
Exactly. He states he used these switches as if he thought they were a good choice if looking for a pronounced sound. But everything I've ever seen says they are muted sooo why the surprise? Doing sound tests where literally every factor is different just seems dumb at best and disingenuous at worst.
Glad to see you did a roundup type of video :)
:) first time, but hope it's helpful!
@@Keybored yessir it is, and just always nice to see more vids from u
great video! Was waiting for the neo65, i think maybe if u were to use an alu plate, it would help produce a livelier sound
I think so too! I think the POM plate is what also made this keyboard more quiet as well!
Great video, can you do one for 100% sized keyboards?
I can't make any choice before I see this video. I just know I need try something different because I have used my old keyboard VM01 for over 6 years. I can't say any difference of the sound between MKC 75 and Choice 65. I like both. Considering that small size will save more space, and I can move my hands more freely, I will choose Choice 65. Fast delivery is a plus.
Have you tried the Neo 65 with foams? Curious to hear how it compares to the Cycle7 since all the sound tests I'm seeing for it are foamless.
I made the king of all Frankenswitches: Durock L5 linear and Gateron Oil King mash. Used the bottom housing and leaf from the Durocks, then used the upper housing, stem, and spring from the Oil Kings. Resulted in a fast-actuating, smooth, heavy, deep-sounding switch with muted RGB. They do REQUIRE films due to the nature of fitting two different housings. Used Krytox 205g0.
Can you make a few to show on the channel? they are truly something spectacular!
hey what were the black transparent keycaps you had on the cycle 7
Already love this! Thanks Scott!
Thank you so much!
As someone who's been in the hobby for a while who tries to be responsible with money i love the invitation that is trickling down to the budget boards
It's pretty insane how the new keyboards are... they're like the premium/luxury boards of a few years ago
Unrelated, but do you think that UHMW tape would help the link 65 hollowness from the cuts?
I’d love to see your comparison of the budget boards a tier higher like the JRIS75, QK75, and the Zoom75
Excellent video as always. As someone who is moving beyond in-stock boards to group buys, and instructional video could help. I can't figure out how to join the group buy for the Neo 65, it's all a bit cryptic compared with most modern online shopping. Thanks!
the sale hasn't started yet - we are just sending the review units out for contents at this point
@@qwertykeys2119 Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.
If you try the gasket mount on Neo65, the sound and feel maybe surpass the cycle7. The oring is just for a new experience - an innovation point which non of the others have.
What mount did the mkc75 use
The wireless version of monsgeek M1 was released on taobao for 400rmb (55.78usd). I think it should definitely make it on the list😅
comes at the perfect time - as always! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! So many good choices now
Do you have the alu plate for the Neo65? Would love to know how it sounds with an alu plate!
Also for science you should have kept as many variables the same as possible between the boards: same switches, same plate material, same keycap set etc.. but nonetheless interesting video!
yes, please an alu plate build
From what I’ve heard the Neo65 sounds a lot better using the gasket mount instead of the o-ring
is it better to choose flex cut or non flex cut pcbs?
I want to go foamless or maybe with plate and case foam. Im still wavering between qk75 and neo65, which one is better in term of sound and feel. Could you give me your thought on this ? Thank you
Hey Scott, I think I found the answer to why the NEO65 sounded so dull. Its because of the Haimu raws. They are surprisingly muted despite being long pole and it made a lot of my board sound dull. Maybe try giving it a try with something more traditional like a JWK would be better.
any recommendations for a 65% keyboard kit with knob?
didn't expect to see AHP method for keyboard review lol, miss me those thesis time.
Lol glad you liked it!
In my experience with bakeneko boards, it sounds the best with alu plate or fr4 plate. I tried pom plate on the bakeneko and it sounded dull just like from your experience.
he should def do an alu build
The neos already has protos out? Also have you been wanting to expand outside of keyboards?
Can I ask how we can find out what's the ideal config for the boards? He mentioned for example, Neo65 was intended to be built with no foam. I tried googling about this but came up empty. Hence the question. I'm new to the hobby and would like to try building my board how the designer intended first.
Please do a video on good budget 1800 layouts, pre builds.
Could you please try the neo with the alu plate again and tell us how it sounds? That might help a lot, would be interesting to see.
I would've pre-ordered the cycle7 IMMEDIATELY if it wasn't for the $40 SHIPPING FEE......
I feel shipping costs (or at least an average) should really be factored into discussions on pricing. Also, the only Neo65 that goes for 80 (before shipping) is soldered and plateless, and I have a feeling that will be one of the least popular options.
@@GlitteratiLobotomy808very true. Although even with options the neo65 is probably going to be a 120 or less board plus shipping. There's not much that actually ships under $150 in the custom space it seems. The cycle7 is easily a $200-220 board shipped in the US.
Still makes it a great sub 200$ board.
@@Th0rNe true, but the main attraction of this board is, especially on youtube, that it's a sub $150 board. Would've been more understandable if it's around $20, or max $25 to the US like the zoom75.
@@noddy5 40-80€ unfortunately is the regular shippingrate to ship from US to Europe. 40 is actually a good price considering it's a keeb. I've had keysets that cost that much.
Don't ever think about Pre-pandemic shipping rates, they won't come back.
Looking into those raw switches you used in the neo 65 it sure seems like they are noted to have a less pronounced and lower subdued sound. More proof that sound tests are pointless especially when things are completely inconsistent between boards.
now you didnt make it any easier for me to decide between the neo and the cycle7, i was sooo looking forward to the new in the more "expensive" configuration as it also comes with rgb that the cycle7 lacks.
but i obv. like to have a decent sound and good flex, maybe i will just wait a year and continue my journey with the zoom65 EEv2
I’m a little confused about the choice 65 board that you used in this video. Currently the group buy only has two-tone case options which make some of the lines on the front and side make more sense because that’s where the case is supposed to separate between the two colors. Do you know if they are planning on making single tone versions of this board?
The green and blue are 1 color. The white/cooper, red/black, and I think there is a pink are 2 tone. The vertical lines he mentioned are part of the construction. The side pieces actually can be removed with 2 screws each. This is because it's the same case as the join65. The Join65, which you can find details about on geekhack easily, had those removable side pieces and you could swap them for other colors. Was a very interesting idea to provide unique design.
Would love to see how the Womier S-K71 keyboard compares against these ones
What pcb plate does he have on his neo65? I don't think he mentioned it
i now really want that neo65 ;-;
Just to add a factor about price, at least in my region of Australia, the Choice65 doesn't come with a USB cable, case or stabs, while the Cycle7 comes with all 3. While the Choice65 has a lower base price, it would actually be the more expensive option if specced equivalently.
That is true! And also I'm sure things will change depending on how much options you throw at it!
@@Keybored Of course, but given these boards are aimed at beginners entering the hobby, the initial price to a complete board does change. The Choice looks like better value than its price suggests.
Still a great review, it actually helped me decide between the Choice65 and Cycle7 for a work keyboard. :)
Nice vid! Can you update this list since a lot of keyboards around this price again are really good now
I have joined choice65 GB, so excited to get it before September!!!
This is a fantastic video.
Love the video! Although, if you were to compare the Drop Sense75 with these keyboards, how would it score, considering right now, it's around the same price range?
I would actually take any one of these over the Sense75 honestly
@@Keybored I would love to hear as to why that's the case? I would've thought $99 for a full alu case, alu knob, and weight as well is an insane deal. I agree it's a bit out-dated with the EVA foam, and insane top case ping, but that's salvagable for the price.
the other ones don‘t have ping, and they all have a weight, which isn‘t the case for the sense bc the „weight“ is made of aluminum kekw
if you want a 75 the mkc is just a way better option, or all 3 other boards from the video, they sound so much better
Please do a video on the Keychron Q6 Pro and mods you might do on it.
what color is the back plate of the cycle 7?
What's color of your Neo65? I think it seems to be navy or black.
The MKC 75 build sounded the best IMO
That subtle vibrating sound in the background music in the intro kept making me think my phone was vibrating, not sure if anyone else experienced that or just me lmao.
no mode envoy review?
Since you just tried the recommended setup, which is highly subjective, its difficult to draw a specific conclusion regarding sound right? Maybe you are missing one extra category like sound flexibility, how good it can be customized to your liking soundwise? Otherwise great video also i like the comp aspect.
18:40 that spacebar slaps
Neo 65 vs Jris 65 vs qk65 R2, which would you pick?
Part2 lets goo
Let's go!
Such a fire review!
Thanks!
Thank you very much for the extensive comparison. Unfortunately delivery costs makes a big difference in these budget boards. For the cycle7 to Canada, $40 delivery for a $139 board and then custom fees of another $25, thats almost 50% of the cost just for delivery is kind of ridiculous
sounds like you should move
Oh it's sad that you didn't try Molly60, that thing looks amazing for $100
1:50. If you know, you know.
Haha, insiders club