Stationeers ATMOSPHERICS for total beginners - TURBOSTYLE-ish - Part 8: Filling tank with Mars gas
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- We're filling a 50000L Big Insulated Liquid Tank with Mars atmosphere during the night, observing what happens, trying different approaches, and leaving disappointed because I didn't get to use it yet for actually cooling anything - that may happen in Part 9.
At 09:00, the speed is probably increasing as the pipe's pressure increases (but is still low), because less of the gas is in liquid form in the pipes. I guess.
Not a tutorial but rather an experiment, but beginners can take a lot of experience about this with them, instead of facing the obstacle in their head "I don't know this, so I won't even begin to make a plan." - now you have some data to work with. - Hry
Absolutely splendid, thank you.
If the goal is to fill a liquid tank, the easiest method is the manual condensation valves connected to a gas network under sufficient pressure to cause condensation at the available temperatures. If stress on the pipes is the concern, an inline tank or actual tank on the gas network will add more headroom so the stress levels increase slow enough to be dealt with by a few manual condensation valves. And if that's not enough, the solution is controlling the pressure in the gas line more deliberately to induce the ("just right") desired amount of condensation.
The gases in liquid tanks/networks are generally treated as a byproduct of the phase change of whatever liquids are pumped/drained into it rather than the method of producing condensation. In general, gas pumping into liquid networks is more about limiting or negating evaporation in the liquid network and not for creating condensation.
Pumping gases into a liquid network in order to create liquids is far more difficult than draining liquids off of gas networks into liquid ones.
Thanks. Later in the video, I'm using the Condensation Valves, and they do increase the speed radically and keep the stress at zero.
You are correct, Matthew :) - some may find the phase change mechanics super confusing, but I just LOVE wasting my time with my Sniff-O-Matic 2000 atmospheric tablet in hand looking at numbers in pipe networks changing :)
@@wowailyich615 You and me both.
I am currently playing my very first decent base playthrough on Mars. I think I have a pretty decent low energy atmosphere harvesting system figured out.
1. 4x Evaporation Chambers evaporate nighttime CO2 in order to produce a tank with a mix of nitrogen/oxygen.
2. The evaporated CO2 then goes into yet another evaporation chamber set to max cooling - this chamber ist the first step in a cooling loop for the nitrogen/oxygen.
3. the second step is a proper evaporation/condensation heat pump filled with pollutant. that cools the nitrogen/oxygen mix down to -85 degrees, condensing the nitrogen.
4. The cold from the now separated nitrogen is then recovered by heat exchanger to help the pollutant heat pump.
5. This way, I generate a steady flow of the most necessary gasses for less than 500 Watts power investment.
Oh, and another CZcamsr tested medium powered vents and found out, that approx 3x condensation valves are needed to handle the condensation in the pipe when going at full throttle. Increasing the volume of the pipe between the vent and the valves with inline tanks also greatly improves condensation performance.
Bonus: all waste gasses from evaporation, the furnace and other processes go through a large cooling tower with 5x turbines. That way, I even have some power recovery worth approx. 200 Watts and the cooling tower looks damned cool with all the vapours under proper lighting :)
An alternative to more than two phase change device setup(credit to CowsAreEvil) is to pump nightime (-20 or lower) mars atmo into tanks up to 15-20Mpa, which will condense all the co2 and pollutant, which is drained off into liquid tanks using the manual condensation valve. The liquid network is then depressurized with a pressurization pump/valve (from regulators) which will remove the pollutant while retaing most of the liquid co2.
At which point you can use liquid co2 in a phase change evaporator to cool your o2/nitrogen tank from before for use as a breathing gas for a base, or in your example to cool the nitrogen/o2 mix low enough to phase change filter as desired, as well as use another evap chamber to produce co2 gas for plants.
@@MatthewJOsbourne That's exactly what I am doing. I use portable tanks for their utility - as the tank connector has both a liquid and a gas connection. The nighttime powered vent condenses CO2 into the portable tanks and the evaporation chambers draw from the tank liquid reservoir. The concentration of O2 and Nitrogen in the gas side slowly increases as the evaporation chambers remove all CO2 and Pollutant. When the portable tanks are "clean" and hold 18MPa of Nitrogen/Oxygen mix and no CO2 remains, a volume pump moves the clean gas into the next tank for separation of nitrogen. And then the cycle resumes from the start. I startet doing this manually, but by now I have an IC10 chip doing the work so the system is autonomous.
Yet again, another great video! Thank you so much. Every day you are saving me 40 dollars investment on this game.
Spend the money, its worth it.
@@MatthewJOsbourne already did. That's why I'm saving the investment 😁