Grimaud's measured and thoughtful approach to this sonata has made the passage on 12:35 to 13:18 becomes a Tearing-Your-Heart-To-Shreds moment. Had Rachmaninoff stretched it longer, I don't think I would survive it.
No matter how many times I hear the first bars of this sonata, It always gives me goosebumps. Never get tired of hearing that first movement. How this woman plays this sonata is unbeatable!
For years I listened to the 2nd and 3rd piano concertos, and the rhapsody on a them by paganini, and 2nd symphony... I think this 2nd movement of his 2nd sonata is probably the most sincere reflection of Rachmaninov's art.
The second movement is heartbreakingly beautiful - just magnificent - both Rachmaninoff's composition and Grimaud's interpretation. Thank you for this melancholic joy, Ms. Grimaud.
woww this is absolutely phenomenal~! Was instant fan of Helene’s years back when I felt her pouring her soul via Chopin’s Sonata 2 years back. She’s a beautiful person throughout and a magnificent talent giving ‘all in’ with every piece she touches. Will be seeing her at Detroit’s DSO in Apr’19 ~ totally psyched, ahh...
Words fail me,to have such a wonderful musical experience as this randomly interrupted by pathetic,odious,moronic ads is utterly unacceptable.I am incandescent with rage.Loathsome.
Влюбился в классику и йяа! Улетаю, как во сне летаю! AiRal - я быть. Эйрл в ,,AReA,, едва живой, скрыт был давно, ещё в ..47м.Что сталось с ним? Об этом нам не пишут. Надеюсь испарился, с эфира же сюда спустился, наш офицер воздушный. Снова я летал во сне, Спасибо Элин Вас и вертуозность Вашу
Fantástica versión la de Grimaud. ¡Qué diferente de la que escuchó a los 14 años, la interpretación de Horowitz! La aprendió en tres semanas y la grabó a los 15 años. ¡Qué difícil ha de ser mantener el equilibrio poseyendo un don tan espectacular!
I wish videos would display which version is being played - the original 1913 or the "easier" (lol) 1931 version. My favorite is still the original Van Cliburn in Moscow at the height of his powers. The phrasing and the way he brought out all those inner melodies was beyond words. Grimaud takes this at a much more stately pace than most but the phrasing and shaping of the piece is near perfection.
Helene, suas interpretações sempre me encantam! Você é uma pessoa abençoada por muitos talentos. Que você possa continuar assim aínda por muito tempo. Saudações de Brasil, da cidade de São Paulo, que se sentirá honrada em recebe- lá para alguns recitais e concertos. sei que sua agenda e apertada, mas peço-lhe encarecidamente para reservar um tempo para vir a Sao Paulo. Seus admiradores a querem ouvir, ver e aplaudi-la.
The most beautiful version of this sonata that I've heard. I just listened to Horowitz version and was difficult. I can pound the hell out of a piano too. This is played with remarkable sensitivity.
One has to invoke some sort of emotion from the listener --- maybe you fall in love, maybe you just feel angry, --- but if it's just something you play in the background the performer missed the point.
you guys are very funny trying to compare a 16 year old student to one of the greatest romantic pianists of all time. what you call "pounding" is kind of a thunderstorm horowitz loved to show off. ...and by the way: rachmaninoff enjoyed to hear it as well as horowitz' version of his second sonata ;) he loved the way horowitz played his music. the master himself said that horowitz played his 3nd concerto better than he ever imagined it. in his later years he even called it "the horowitz concerto". they played it on several ocasions together on 2 pianos. in general they were very good friends and spend a lot of time together. so in fact no pianist (except from rachmaninoff) ever could have had such a good idea about how rachmaninoffs music 'should be played' than horowitz. but at the end it's a matter of taste and i respect if you don't like it. maybe you could try the 1968 live version at carnegie hall which is quite different from his 70's recording. i love grimauds interpretation. her early recordings are amazing! unfortunately i didn't like any of her albums since she started to release for deutsche grammophon...
Not a big fan of Horowitz, either, he pounds too much for me. Many of today's modern pianists are better, more subtle artists. Maybe it's because there's the record of past artists like Horowitz and Rubenstein as well as intense competition. Many of the female pianists are incredible, like Zlata Chochieva. My favorite for much of Rachmaninov's piano works is Santiago Rodriguez, who is Cuban-American and teaches in Miami at Frost Music School. He has great power and sensitivity.
Please don't rudely place those stinkin' commercial ads in the middle of these beautiful musical passages ! At least place them at the end of each movement ! 🧐
Hélène fa majestuosament comprensible aquesta difícil sonata de Rachmaninov.On toca el cel és en el concert per a piano i orquestra 2 del festival de Lucerna 2008.J.A.Vives.12-7-2020.
наконец кто-то играет эту сонату без сумасшедших загонов и мегаэкстаза. все прослушано, культурно и хорошо слеплено. впрочем она всегда хорошо играла Рахманинова. не понял почему во второй части на кульминации выброшены все форшлаги в левой руке. судя по всему, она играет микст из обеих редакций.
I absolutely adore Helene Grimaud and the maturity and depth of her piano playing. But here she sounds not out of her depth but not in her element, if that makes any sense. The massive, grandly romantic sound of Rachmaninoff, the tremendous build-ups of tension in this piece and then sudden retreats into simmering quiet - she plays it all far too heavily and inelegantly. This Sonata is made for the Russian syle of piano playing, big, majestic, tumultuous, thundering, dramatic. To play this kind of music there must be massive forces being deployed and portrayed without any sense of strain. An approach that is a world away from the soulful, deeply thought, profoundly felt sensitivity of Grimaud. When she tries to adapt her impeccable brand of French mature sensitivity to Russian shock and awe titanism she sounds awkward, clumsy, over-wrought.
Is there no place for an artist to give her own interpretation of such a magnificent piece of music... and make it her own? I suggest that instead of awkwardness or clumsiness, Grimaud is delivering with finesse and elegance, without surrendering the power or profundity of the original composition.
Yes. And this is the largely cut-back 1931 version for the most part. Michael Ponti, 1978 and live in Munich, original 1913 version, and Artur Pizarro playing the same version live in London are the real deal in my lifetime.
Actually she combines both of them like Horowitz. She plays little bits of the 1931 version's passages here and there but mostly it is the 1913 version.
@@mariofranco7416 I doubt you'll find this specific recording's sheet music anywhere since its a performers adaptation, and not a fully independent piece..
@@mariofranco7416 XDDD I'm afraid that's far out of my skillset, unless you want the music to look like Faerie Aire and sound like stöckhausen on ketomine lol
сыграно четко и безошибочно по немецки, но души нет ребят... нет ни драматизма ни душевной боли в исполнении. Просто сыграно по немецки четко и чисто. В первый раз услышал исполнение этого произведения Горовицем и лучше наверно уже не сыграют.
E' miracoloso come riesca a rendere questa sonata... moderna. Brava Maestro!
Grimaud's measured and thoughtful approach to this sonata has made the passage on 12:35 to 13:18 becomes a Tearing-Your-Heart-To-Shreds moment. Had Rachmaninoff stretched it longer, I don't think I would survive it.
Perfect explanation of how this has always affected me - magnificent music and brave performance - simply stunning
No matter how many times I hear the first bars of this sonata, It always gives me goosebumps. Never get tired of hearing that first movement. How this woman plays this sonata is unbeatable!
For years I listened to the 2nd and 3rd piano concertos, and the rhapsody on a them by paganini, and 2nd symphony... I think this 2nd movement of his 2nd sonata is probably the most sincere reflection of Rachmaninov's art.
you should take a listen to all of his preludes (for example, op 32 no 10 in b minor) - will give you a lot more insight on him.
What I like about this performance is that there is no exaggerated showing of dazzling virtuosity.Just pure music.
The best performance of this piece hands down.
This is the best performance of this piece I have ever heard. Wonderfully musical.
Fantastic harmonies and piano writing by Rachmaninoff. Also very delicate playing by Helene Grimaud.
The second movement is heartbreakingly beautiful - just magnificent - both Rachmaninoff's composition and Grimaud's interpretation. Thank you for this melancholic joy, Ms. Grimaud.
woww this is absolutely phenomenal~!
Was instant fan of Helene’s years back when I felt her pouring her soul via Chopin’s Sonata 2 years back. She’s a beautiful person throughout and a magnificent talent giving ‘all in’ with every piece she touches.
Will be seeing her at Detroit’s DSO in Apr’19 ~ totally psyched, ahh...
I feel so relaxing after listening to this golden performance.
This interpretation is so beautiful.
Words fail me,to have such a wonderful musical experience as this randomly interrupted by pathetic,odious,moronic ads is utterly unacceptable.I am incandescent with rage.Loathsome.
It really is horrendous, isn’t it? Ads should be confined to the beginning and end. To do otherwise is pure vandalism.
Grimaud emphasizes how Rachmaninoff anticipates Theme 1 in the initial run.
Влюбился в классику и йяа! Улетаю, как во сне летаю!
AiRal - я быть. Эйрл в ,,AReA,, едва живой, скрыт был давно, ещё в ..47м.Что сталось с ним? Об этом нам
не пишут. Надеюсь испарился, с эфира же сюда спустился, наш офицер воздушный. Снова я летал во сне, Спасибо Элин Вас и вертуозность Вашу
Хелен исполняет Рахманинова превосходно. Браво Маэстро.
Beautifully performed. But I'm captivated by those eyes.
Fantástica versión la de Grimaud. ¡Qué diferente de la que escuchó a los 14 años, la interpretación de Horowitz! La aprendió en tres semanas y la grabó a los 15 años. ¡Qué difícil ha de ser mantener el equilibrio poseyendo un don tan espectacular!
Excellent !
Tres beau magnifique Bravo
Very elegant interpretation!
Pianista Maravilhosa, Seus Olhos Azuis também!!!
La migliore interpretazione di questa sonata che abbia mai sentito. Ora fornita di una "struttura". Complimenti.
I wish videos would display which version is being played - the original 1913 or the "easier" (lol) 1931 version. My favorite is still the original Van Cliburn in Moscow at the height of his powers. The phrasing and the way he brought out all those inner melodies was beyond words. Grimaud takes this at a much more stately pace than most but the phrasing and shaping of the piece is near perfection.
Cliburn mixes both the original and revised versions as did Horowitz before him.
@@remomazzetti8757 I should have said that - thanks
Somehow I have never been a fan of Grimaud but she absolutely nails this Sonata.
You need to hear her play Brahms nº2 concerto. Breathless.
@@jorgeaguirre7260 Zimmerman is so good in that concerto tho
I always hear bells with Rachmaninov. Here too. So she plays it well.
beautiful
Helene, suas interpretações sempre me encantam! Você é uma pessoa abençoada por muitos talentos. Que você possa continuar assim aínda por muito tempo. Saudações de Brasil, da cidade de São Paulo, que se sentirá honrada em recebe- lá para alguns recitais e concertos. sei que sua agenda e apertada, mas peço-lhe encarecidamente para reservar um tempo para vir a Sao Paulo. Seus admiradores a querem ouvir, ver e aplaudi-la.
Puissant et raffiné, racé comme les bons vins, c'est magnifique
Very impressive.
Beautiful performance ♫♪
I heard Weissenberg play this live- this version is even more 'masculine'
The most beautiful version of this sonata that I've heard. I just listened to Horowitz version and was difficult. I can pound the hell out of a piano too. This is played with remarkable sensitivity.
You standard simpleton
One has to invoke some sort of emotion from the listener --- maybe you fall in love, maybe you just feel angry, --- but if it's just something you play in the background the performer missed the point.
@@Jojodabaker12 No..Daniel Hoover is right..Horowitz bangs...
you guys are very funny trying to compare a 16 year old student to one of the greatest romantic pianists of all time.
what you call "pounding" is kind of a thunderstorm horowitz loved to show off.
...and by the way: rachmaninoff enjoyed to hear it as well as horowitz' version of his second sonata ;)
he loved the way horowitz played his music. the master himself said that horowitz played his 3nd concerto better than he ever imagined it. in his later years he even called it "the horowitz concerto". they played it on several ocasions together on 2 pianos.
in general they were very good friends and spend a lot of time together.
so in fact no pianist (except from rachmaninoff) ever could have had such a good idea about how rachmaninoffs music 'should be played' than horowitz.
but at the end it's a matter of taste and i respect if you don't like it. maybe you could try the 1968 live version at carnegie hall which is quite different from his 70's recording.
i love grimauds interpretation. her early recordings are amazing! unfortunately i didn't like any of her albums since she started to release for deutsche grammophon...
Not a big fan of Horowitz, either, he pounds too much for me. Many of today's modern pianists are better, more subtle artists. Maybe it's because there's the record of past artists like Horowitz and Rubenstein as well as intense competition. Many of the female pianists are incredible, like Zlata Chochieva. My favorite for much of Rachmaninov's piano works is Santiago Rodriguez, who is Cuban-American and teaches in Miami at Frost Music School. He has great power and sensitivity.
Please don't rudely place those stinkin' commercial ads in the middle of these beautiful musical passages ! At least place them at the end of each movement ! 🧐
Hélène fa majestuosament comprensible aquesta difícil sonata de Rachmaninov.On toca el cel és en el concert per a piano i orquestra 2 del festival de Lucerna 2008.J.A.Vives.12-7-2020.
She plays it slower and more detailed. We are able to hear some of the notes that are usually not heard when played too fast and too intense.
Good play and beautiful woman!
Beautiful interpretation! My favorite...Rachmaninoff influenced by jazz or vice versa?
Amazing timbre meaning
HG for ever !!!
наконец кто-то играет эту сонату без сумасшедших загонов и мегаэкстаза. все прослушано, культурно и хорошо слеплено. впрочем она всегда хорошо играла Рахманинова.
не понял почему во второй части на кульминации выброшены все форшлаги в левой руке. судя по всему, она играет микст из обеих редакций.
En toda mi vida solo he escuchado la version de horowitz pero la version de ella es magica.
Her face made me click and her music made me stay.
Extreme talent with unmatched beauty is a potent mix for sure.
Очень красиво!
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷💐
I absolutely adore Helene Grimaud and the maturity and depth of her piano playing. But here she sounds not out of her depth but not in her element, if that makes any sense. The massive, grandly romantic sound of Rachmaninoff, the tremendous build-ups of tension in this piece and then sudden retreats into simmering quiet - she plays it all far too heavily and inelegantly. This Sonata is made for the Russian syle of piano playing, big, majestic, tumultuous, thundering, dramatic. To play this kind of music there must be massive forces being deployed and portrayed without any sense of strain. An approach that is a world away from the soulful, deeply thought, profoundly felt sensitivity of Grimaud. When she tries to adapt her impeccable brand of French mature sensitivity to Russian shock and awe titanism she sounds awkward, clumsy, over-wrought.
Is there no place for an artist to give her own interpretation of such a magnificent piece of music... and make it her own? I suggest that instead of awkwardness or clumsiness, Grimaud is delivering with finesse and elegance, without surrendering the power or profundity of the original composition.
Yes. And this is the largely cut-back 1931 version for the most part. Michael Ponti, 1978 and live in Munich, original 1913 version, and Artur Pizarro playing the same version live in London are the real deal in my lifetime.
@James Wenske Usually because there is a way in which the composer imagined it to be played.
Disagree, Rachmaninoff's sonata seems even influenced by French impressionism, certainly very European, not completely Russian.
this is the first version of the sonata btw
Actually she combines both of them like Horowitz. She plays little bits of the 1931 version's passages here and there but mostly it is the 1913 version.
SALUDOS HELENE GRIMAUD
Mas de lo mismo su arte y belleza son una RUTINA
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Dear all, is this one the original(1913) version or 1931 version?
1931
No this is original 1913 (with changes though)
Both and neither, much like Horowitz.
BUENOS DIAS HELENE
where can i find free sheet music for this? is it the edited version?
You can just search on Google for the free sheet music to download from places like musopen, pianoshelf, or free-score
Stethen Liebenberg Thank you but these sites don’t have this particular version which I am looking for. Helene Grimaud has edited it herself.
@@mariofranco7416 I doubt you'll find this specific recording's sheet music anywhere since its a performers adaptation, and not a fully independent piece..
Stethen Liebenberg can you transcribe it for me? i will pay you with a like
@@mariofranco7416 XDDD I'm afraid that's far out of my skillset, unless you want the music to look like Faerie Aire and sound like stöckhausen on ketomine lol
czcams.com/video/kZMpN-35yi8/video.html
16:47
i wish they would stop taking these ‘pin up’ photos of her
LOL!
сыграно четко и безошибочно по немецки, но души нет ребят... нет ни драматизма ни душевной боли в исполнении. Просто сыграно по немецки четко и чисто. В первый раз услышал исполнение этого произведения Горовицем и лучше наверно уже не сыграют.
Да. Горовиц это эталон
SR is sometimes a great composer ..,...this is not the case.
How can pianists lose their time learning this.....??
Listen to Yiruma instead, I guess that’s more appropriate for people like you
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