DISASTER AVOIDED: ALMOST DROPPED THE RIG (KYD 128 SEATTLE)
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▶︎ About the Episode: This episode reminded us of SN1. Visiting cities, friends and making lots of mistakes! This truly was a disaster avoided. Had we dropped our Grand Design RV from two feet in the air, it’s certain the frame would have been damaged and our trip would have ended early. Even experienced RVers can get excited and distracted and lose track of simple steps.
Let our almost mistake be a reminder to take your time when setting up or tearing down. Especially with friends and other things that could get you out of your routine.
This was our second time in Seattle and just as enjoyable. In fact, we’ve still only scratched the surface on Seattle. Last time, we did all the touristy stuff such as the fish market, but this time we were with locals and we visited the www.ballardlocks.org/ and the infamous troll.
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Mark, when I started pilot training, I was taught that if I was ever interrupted during a checklist, always start back at step one. You may not need to redo every step, but you need to be sure every step was done. This is a good reminder. On another note, We hope you have a KYD insider coffee in the Phoenix area some time. We're in Chandler.
Great suggestion. Very reasonable.
Don, same for me at UPT.
I am going to live by this rule as well. Thanks!
Super good advice.
Mark, As a private Pilot the old saying "There are those who have and those who will" has always stood out in my mind. as a Fire Medic and a Police Tactical Medic, the arrogance (in the light of that won't ever happen to me) of the general population never ceased to amaze me. I have seen so many unbelievable things happen to folks who you would never think capable of. I have come close to flying into IMC, or landing without my gear down just because I neglected to "Keep a Sterile Cockpit" when flying at critical points. I've always fessed up in hopes that someone else might learn from my mistakes. Thank you for doing the same! Embarrassing yes but you may have saved many from the alternative. For those who go in bliss and blind into the world, an old Firefighter said it once best "Job Security!" Thank You for Sharing... OLT
Man, we got to Wickenburg recently and we backed the rig into our spot, we were on a very slight angle on the ground and about 6 feet behind the rig was a 20 foot hill drop off.
Well I put the tongue jack down onto a board with a couple of those yellow leveling blocks on it. When you take the tongue off from the ball sometimes it jostles a little bit and when it came off the ball my trailer (NOT CHOCKED!) rolled back and the jack stand slid off the leveling blocks and smashed on the ground, dragged about 18 inches and dug 4 inches into the ground before stopping!
First time that ever happened, needless to say I felt like I needed a cigarette after that (I don’t smoke). From now on I’ll be chocking and x-chocking the tires before detaching from the hitch!
I'm really impressed that you were humble enough to admit that mistake and even showed it on public, coming from an experience full time RVer it's still possible to make some errors. Thanks for this reminder. BTW I really appreciate for all your videos, I just got a travel trailer cuz I listen to your advice to just go do it. It doesnt need to be the best travel trailer yet but @least I can gain experience & I really love it. My next one would be a 5th wheeler! Looking forward to see you your 5th wheel so I can get some ideas!
Nice. Thanks Peter. Congrats on the rig and making it happen
Yes sir, exactly. We have a class A and before we start the engine we go through a checklist (much like what a pilot would do). Similarly, we use our checklist upon arrival to our camp site. It has saved our rear ends a couple of times.
This demonstrates to me why your videos are so very exceptional. To take what could have been passed over so as not to embarrass you but to use it as a training tool for all of us to watch only demonstrates the true value of your videos.
My wife and I have been enjoying your videos since day one, and look forward to seeing them release each Sunday. Appreciate you sharing your close call! Recently I got in a hurry and skipped the normal checklist before departure with our 5th wheel and found I pulled the rig home without engaging the handle lock on the hitch. We made it home without incident but the discovery was truly frightening! One wrong bump/jostle and 12,000 pounds of RV would be free to move about the country on it's own..... As a former pilot I know the importance of a checklist. Being in a hurry or getting distracted can happen to even the most seasoned. Keep up the good work and being so transparent . You are helping us and a whole lot more folks both learn and enjoy the thrill of seeing this country by RV.
Honesty is such a rare thing today, but refreshing.
Wow, a jamb packed vid that is GREAT!! Thx for sharing the "near disaster," as it shows to us all just how a "little" distraction doing "simple things" could lead to a disaster. Then, seeing the fish ladder the critter under the bridge, the locks, the truck being detailed: wow, so much good stuff. Thanks so much; y'all Be Safe!
Oh, yeah, the look on your face when your friend mentioned taking the pressure off the tongue was priceless; but, worth every cent. Served to illustrate how we can forget the simple things (or steps).
Good for you for being man enough to admit your mistake, AND, to show everyone what happened. This was a great example of distraction. No different than distracted driving when talking on your phone while driving a vehicle.
My folks have been traveling full time in their 5th wheel since 1995. I never help them with any of their process to hook up of unhook. They have a process that they go through, and any outside the normal flow will throw them off.
We forgot to chock our tires once and as the trailer came off the ball, the whole thing started rolling/pushing forward into the sandy dirt. Luckily, it was a tiny trailer and he held it on the blocks while I ran and chocked it. Now it's our joke-not-really-a-joke to remind each other: "Are the tires chocked?" We both still double check every time we ask!
Like you, we were glad disaster was averted. Keep up your awesome videos.
Dude, just starting out and there's a lot of insight on the technical aspects and its great but this is just as important to see to always keep it on point. Way to be a real man and take a bullet for the team.
The mistake portion, at first, it was the funniest moment in many many episodes. Maybe I am just a tool, but the gravitational jokes were great. But then the whole discussion of the issue brings up one important point: we might all need to incorporate checklists in some of these important process, regardless of how many times we do them. Pilots use checklists religously, reading them aloud, even though they know them by heart, for a simple reason: this type of distraction is super normal.
Don't feel bad about forgetting the landing gear. I've forgotten to unhook the air lines on my semi truck, when dropping the trailer. In a truck yard full of drivers. And, I didn't even have the excuse of being a newbie. I just got in a hurry and did the whole dropping of the trailer process out of order. Oops. Totally embarrassing.
Paul S My dad forgot air lines too! Back years ago when he was still driving. It happens lol
I’m a truck driver too. My husband has forgotten to unhook airlines before. I almost forgot to lower my landing gear about a week ago. That would have been all kinds of bad.
Oh, I've forgotten the gear too, both down and up, lol. Thankfully, not in a while. The trick to recover when you drop your trailer with the gear up is to drop your bags, get the frame under the nose, re-inflate the bags, lower the gear. Rinse and repeat. Don't forget to swear as much as you need to make you feel better, lol
I just want to say a quick hello and thank you to you guys. First hello from Creston BC Canada, and secondly thank you for your outstanding work on your channel, I started my channel 14 months ago and I sent you a note telling you that your channel helped inspire me to get started as a youtuber. You responded to me with an encouraging note and I could not believe it! Today I have about 5100 subscribers and I just love it. Now I respond to new youtubers that are just getting started. It's just great to pay it forward. Kindest Regards, Bruce Frommert
Excellent service message...can’t tell you how many time I have been distracted...or...distracted someone else by wanting to “help”, taking them out of their routine.
Friend of mine got way out of his routine, with a broken slide motor, disconnected wire for the Jack's and a group of people hanging around the site. After dealing with all that manual labor hand cranking everything to level his kingpin, he forgot to put up his tailgate. Two bashed in front cargo doors later, and allot of help unbinding the tension on his slide fifth wheel, he was finally able to unhook reconnect and go down the road safely. Routines are everything!
Great lesson. I have a ProPride and early in our travels I disconnected without chocking! I can’t describe the feeling of watching your trailer roll backward unintentionally. Fortunately it stopped after I pulled the emergency brake cable and no damage was done. Humbling.
You are absolutely right. I am a truck driver and learned very early to always do everything in the same order and ANY time you get distracted, start COMPLETELY over. Even if you think you already did something or checked something, start over. You'll be glad you did. It is surprisingly common for truck drivers to drop a trailer, but by following that simple rule, I have never dropped one!!
I know exactly what you mean and I too have done very scary things because I wasn't paying close attention to the task at hand.
Big Truck Big RV you know you've made it when BTBRV is commenting on your video haha
We have a fifth wheel, it can be so easy to forget one little simple step, but something as simple as that would put a hole in the bed of the truck, amazing
When he told you about the jack, the look on your face was like a kid getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar:). I know when your on the road being tired a person can really do unexpected things, then it is what the Hell was I thinking.
I don't think I've heard that tone in my voice. It was total shock!
Marc and Trish, one of your best videos. You had us rolling about the truck. Also great message about distractions and to be focused at all times while performing repetitive tasks.
Such a great post and important opening. Your honesty and willingness to address a mistake is so important. So much of our national culture seems to be about a lack of honesty and transparency--antidotes can be found in all sorts of places :-) Truly, thank you.
I totally understand about being distracted. Long story short, I broke the back window out of my truck with an ATV while being distracted. I've learned to politely ask people to back off and leave me alone while doing my loading and hitching routine.
Ah. It’s good that you share these moments as cautionary tales. This reminds me of when I was launching my boat with my kids and feeling rushed because the landing was busy and I didn’t follow my routine and I forgot to put the plug in. Thankfully I caught it in time! It’s important to stay focused on your routine.
Man channels like yours and Less Junk More Journey show us the great cities in North America not to forget the beautiful scenery like forests, mountains and beaches. And you show us there is so much more than a divided USA. You show us I think a much more beautiful country than you see in the news
So relieved that your friend was able to point out the absolute necessity of lowering the jack before disconnecting! You are so fortunate there was not a disaster in the making! I have only had my TT since 7/2017, but I have also hooked it up/towed/unhooked many times. On my 1st camping trip, to a nearby St. Park/Lake, while I was about to hook-up to the Anderson Equalizer/Swaybar hitch system, (awake most of the night due to a stressed cat), I forgot to raise the stabilizer jacks before beginning to raise the jack, and that is definitely a NO-NO! Thank goodness I caught it in time, or I too could have had some major frame damage.
I know if I get distracted from my routine, like you, I am much more likely to make a mistake, potentially serious. I try to keep all people away. My worst think is others trying to "help" me and my wife parking the rig. We have our own system (including two way radios instead of hand signals) and it works for us. The look on your face was fabulous!
As a veteran truck driver of 26 years I picked up on the mistake right of the bat. DISTRACTION. It’s easy for it to happen and thankfully y’all caught it before disaster. Always stay with routines and concentrate on task at hand. Good lesson learned here for all luckily with a happy ending.
So glad your friend saved you! We dropped our old rig the same way. Hubby was distracted talking with family and didn’t put the tongue jack all the way down. Thankfully it was a smaller rig and only fell about 6 inches (the way our yard sloped) so no damage. Just had to get an industrial type hack to lift the rig back up to rehook to the truck and start over!)
Good reminder about focus and distractions. Good luck with the fast. It's the best way to reboot grumpiness and all.
I have done something very similar because I was in a hurry to get on the road. It served as a reminder for me that I need to slow down and double check everything.
Excellent point about getting distracted. You are not alone! I try to never interrupt someone during hitching or unhitching. I noticed I never see you use a check list ??? My wife always stands next to me a reads off the list like an air plane pilot before flight. We found that without it. Mistakes always happen.
Hey Marc and Tricia, I love the level transparency you allow in your videos. It gives hope to the rest of us. I found your videos just last week and I'm enjoying seeing them. Thanks for keeping it real.
Love watching your videos each week. You guys are such an inspiration to new RVers. Thanks for sharing your stories!
Great reminder on distractions! Thanks for sharing your lessons with us. It is often in the familiar that we skip those necessary steps. Well done KYD!
I can really relate on how much a clean rig can brighten a day:)
Excellent video and loaded with a valuable reminder to stay focused on task at hand and even seasoned pros can goof if interrupted
Thank goodness you caught it. The more we travel with the trailer the more manic I get with my checklists. This can happen with scary ease.
Thanks for showing all of us how the Locks work! Very cool
Sad to see Alaska trip over with but excited to see what lies ahead! I want to mention how PERFECT your background music is with each & every video! I'm sure that takes a bit of work....but it flows & coincides so effortlessly!
Just winterized my 1983 class c Coachman & it's parked for the upstate NY winter....I'm already missing it. I'll spend my winter living vicariously through you....stay safe!!
I’ve done scary things too. Your awesome for being so honest and open. Cool character 👏
Thanks for sharing, safe travels
You are lucky you didn’t chalk up and it would have pulled out. We all make mistakes. Thanks for sharing. Staying focused on task is important
I was chalked-up. The X Chocks + Anderson blocks + an additional chalk on the passenger side. That's why I was in shock. I even added gas on the truck. Serious close call.
Glad to see you made it to the locks, many memories going through those on my grandma's boat. And I see you got to experience a little seattle drizzle as well
Professor Mark, thanks for the what did we learn today. Don't beat yourself up over this. It's not every day you park half on the curb and half in the street. Yea, gotta stay focused, there are a lot of moving parts and essential steps. Hopefully any omissions or missteps are minor. P.S. enjoy your channels mix of travel and helpful hints. Stay safe in your travels
So true about distractions when setting or packing up. I got distracted once by a neighbour when we arrived where I almost did the same thing with our fifth wheel. I tried opening the jaws before I lowered the jacks. Lucky for me there was pressure on the jaws and it wouldn't release.
Thanks for posting your experience...
Another great video! I think the way you used this as a learning video was great because I don’t think this will be forgotten for years to come. Learning without an accident I believe is a great lesson. Chalk this up as a near miss and thanks for sharing.
Cant wait to see what you guys have in store for us next season.....
Your so right about being distracted at either set up or tear down. I have a truck camper and find I need to take extra caution if dropping camper off truck at camp sites or boondocking.
Great reminder for all us RVers no matter what we are rolling.
This is so true. Mistakes are too easy, and it is awesome that you did NOT drop your rig!! I appreciate how real you all keep it. I love the idea of being mobile more and more as I see the mistakes and find myself going, yeah, that is a down side but I can see that and still want to go mobile.
It's so good to see you this week. You make our Sunday special. I'm glad you shared the almost catastrophic unhitching incident with us. It's a good reminder to stay focused and not become distracted when doing a routine activity. I'm so glad you guys caught that the Jack wasn't lowered before anything happened. Getting past that, we enjoyed the vlog. Thank you so much for taking us with you.
Thanks for the sites in Seattle. That could have been a big boo boo, glad your friend caught it. Good reminder for all of us. The truck looks great now. Have fun!
The look on your face was priceless Mark, when you did'n't lower what ever it was you needed to do on the rig. So glad that you avoided disaster! Everything needs a checklist that is for sure. Loved the bridge troll, love the locks, loved the video! Hope the fasting and getting back on track with fitness and health went well for you and Trish. Hugs, Brenda
I with ya Trish. I admire you fast for a week. I go without one meal and boom, I am dying.
A similar thing happens when hooking up a fifth wheel hitch ... make SURE that the hitch lock is engaged by putting a little backup pressure (you may hear it snap closed) before moving forward ... and actually watch the trailer to see that it moves with the truck! Any distraction during hitching is the enemy! :) Great video!
Great video and information. I enjoy all the information you have provided. Thank you! Being a Seattle guy I forget things Seattle has to offer, Thank you.
Excellent lesson about being distracted.
I grew up at the locks!! Lived here since 1966!! It's fun to see it all thru the eyes of a visitor!
A few years ago I went through those same locks delivering a sailboat to San Diego. A lot of the buildings were under construction at the time and it is amazing how fast those building went up. At the time we were the only boat in the lock, pretty cool!
We’re newbies with a fifth wheel. Hooking up and off makes me so nervous. I’m glad to see that even experienced folks can have “special experiences”. Thanks for sharing!
Me and my family took this summer to travel cross country, we went from New your state, and we went through the same place in Seattle. It was good to recognize the bridge and the roads.
oh wow what a humbling moment. love ur videos.
Another fantastic video!!
I just love you guys, always positive, always fun to watch!
I've been there Marc. Except I hadn't made sure the coupler was connected to the ball properly towing the speed boat I used to own. Came around a corner and it jumped off the hitch snapping one of the safety chains. Now I always physically bend down and look when hooking up the RV. I commend you for pointing out what almost happened and agree that it is a valuable lesson. Luv you guys!
I’ve been waiting for this episode since you guys talked about your plan home. This is my hometown and state and has a soft spot in my heart. Despite the hitch issues I hope y’all had fun in this beautiful city
The very first time I Un hitched my 35 foot 10,000 pound toy hauler, I didn't chock the tires. The rig rolled back about 8 inches when it came off the ball. My heart sank deeper than the TLC channel when it aired Honey Boo Boo, bc I wasn't sure it would even stop since there was a slight slope backwards. Needless to say chocking tires is now ALWAYS on my mind. First thing that happens when I park, last thing I remove when headed out
On our first 5W in 2008, we forgot to lock the ball on our gooseneck adapter. As the trailer shook a little when we hit a frost heave on the highway, it was a heck of a realization that we had not locked down the ball during our hitch up procedure ... talk about a sinking feeling and a slow coast to the side of the road. Thank goodness that someone deep inside us is watching out for the forgetful person on the outside shell of us!
Mark- thank you for posting this. Distractions come in all shapes and sizes. I appreciate the accountability you’ve shown by owning this and not blaming anyone or anything. Great reminder. Thank you! Oh! And kudos for the bystander that cared enough to question you in a non pretentious manner. We ❤️ KYD!
Close call thanks for being real and sharing it’s easy to make mistakes when you’re distracted or rushed it would have been easy to erase or just not share that. Pretty cool that You shared this kudos to you shows integrity it also lets those of us who have made similar mistakes know we are not alone.
Ok I am just catching up. I watch every episode but got behind a couple weeks. Thanks for sharing! You certainly didn’t have to show everyone your mistake, but I am glad you did and appreciate it. Been there, done something like that many times. It was a good reminder to everyone. I think you guys are awesome and thanks for sharing your fun journeys.
Thank goodness you had another set of eyes paying attention to that detail...Glad you had a great time in Seattle (a place I will visit one day)...and the road to Sacra-tomato...I-5...the farmlands and wine country of NoCa (I have family there).
Hey, Mark. I work with a global trucking and logistics company. We utilize the Smith System and other dropping and hooking training. We have a dozen or more dropped trailers a week. Would you believe 9 out of 10 are exactly what you filmed here? A buddy asks a quick question in passing, routine is changed, and something then is missed. We instruct our guys to start all over again or at least a few steps forward of your distraction point. I loved the look on your face. I've seen it a few times. You absolutely got the severity of your potential mistake. This moment will replay in your mind every time you drop/hook for years to come. I'm glad we all could laugh about it.
I was born, raised, and lived my 61 years in Seattle, and I thank you for showing me my city through the wide eyes of an appreciative tourist. Things I take for granted were all new and exciting to you.
And don't regret however much that truck detailing (ahem - WASH) cost you- it was worth it for the amount of time you live in that truck.
And it was SUNNY!
(no really - rains all year long in Seattle, so don't move here, we have enough people. Move down to nice sunny Portland)
I've been hauling gear professionally all my adult life. I "excuse myself" during the process and tell folks that it's a "Zen like" experience that I need to do by myself, both hitching and unhitching". "I'll be right with you" or "Let me knock this out and we'll visit" works a treat. Thanks for sharing your gaff as you've helped ienumerable people! Could have been bad. #wartsandall
Gravitational Manager! I love it...tears to my eyes. Thanks for the videos!
We have a class A and my husband was filling up after driving for 8 hrs and while it was filling he cleaned the front window and then proceeded to get in and slowly thankfully very slowly drive away. Lucky a very observant truck driver behind us tooted and we stopped checked mirrors and saw the nozzle still in the motorhome. Tiredness distraction reminded us to not drive too long and to always check surroundings before leaving. We stopped straight after this for the night. We all get distracted and some are lucky 🍀.
I just have to say I laughed so hard, too hard. I understand it could of been a true disaster but because it wasn’t we can laugh, but I am really glad you used your mistake to help educate and remind others! I am a nurse and I have always told any of my peers that we are human and humans make mistakes but learn from it and now you are able to teach others because of your mistake! Love y’all’s videos!
I feel your pain Mark. Pulled into a campground after a long day on the road driving our class A. Got distracted with friends who were gracious enough to come help us because it was raining/cold outside and we did not go through our regular routine. Started to put the living room slide out and unbeknownst to us, one of the cabinet doors had come open during travel. Yep, ripped her right out of the woodwork. Distractions are never good during set up or tear down. Glad you caught it!!
Wow that was so close! This series has been so excellent Marc and Trish. You really demonstrated the fact that Alaska is still Frontier country. Glad you’re back in the states hope it is restful winter. And with wonderful things to come. You’ve changed so many of our lives. Thanks
That's a good point. The roads were better than expected, but it's still a pilgrimage like Trish mentioned.
Great tip. Maybe make a check list. Even though you have done it over and over. Mistakes happen. So glad it came out ok. Love Seattle. My home.
Once we didn’t put the front levels down on our 5th wheel and pulled off the hitch and it dropped down on the bed of the truck 😮! Luckily nothing or no one was hurt. Just scared us to death and realized just like you did how stupid of a mistake it was.
Did I mention I LOVE a CLEAN vehicle. Glad everything is going well and you got your awning repaired. Our son lives in Tacoma. We were there in August. We went to Ballard one day for lunch. The Seattle area is awesome. We love going to the Mountains, Rainier and St. Helens. Take care and be safe.
Over the last 9 1/2 years we've gone from travel trailer to Class A to truck camper. At this point I usually find myself going over everything twice just to make sure I'm not missing any important steps, especially when there are big distractions. You've done a great job with attention to detail so one, almost, slip up is pretty good. Or you've done some selective editing (wink, wink). Anyway, love your videos and look forward to them every Sunday evening. Thank you for sharing your adventures!
I forget wheel chocks a lot. I’ve never had a disaster, but one time wondered why my stabilizers looked a bit skewed and my tongue jack was no longer on its little pad. I now put those chocks right next to the tools I use to get unhooked. That was a close call. Luv how you pulled, “let me film while you bring in the groceries”, and it worked! You’ve got skills...
Welcome back! ☮️💜
Love how you guys always shine like crazy diamonds! We were heading out of a campground, Bob Scott in NV specifically passing the very last spot when someone flagged us down to tell us our upper slide was out on our 5th wheel! Yikes!!
Youre spot on about tge distractions! Ive tried to drive off with the tongue jack down a few times for same reasons.
Done that more than once myself!
Mark, I love the expression on your face when he asked about the tongue jack.
All great info. Love you guys so cool. Your like family as I watch so much
I can relate to your unhitching dilemma. I forgot to set the park brake on pour tow vehicle before unhooking the tow bar. I was chasing a rolling Jeep. OOPs !!!
We once forgot to put chocks down before we unhooked (we were distracted because we were having an argument!) and our travel trailer moved forward a little while my husband was standing in front of it. Thank God, that was all. Scared the daylights out of us! We always double check each other now and stay focused!! Glad you shared this - good reminder for me and might help someone avoid a mistake.
Chocks are serious business! I use the X-chocks.
I made the same mistake once and it caused the hitch receiver to slide into the shank on my truck. Luckily everyone was safe and nothing got broken. Definitely lesson learned though.
carol forgot the chocks.
Hysterical: Mark, you are such a 'guy'! Lol! At 15:18-15:56, Mark: "I'm SO excited to get an oil change, SO excited that the truck is clean, and SO excited to have fast WiFi - just a few seconds after Trish got SO excited (truly) about you having read 'The Grapes of Wrath' and knowing the name of the author. Love you two! :-)
You are too cool Marc. That's something someone would try to hide and you showed us just how easy mistakes can happen. This past summer in Yellowstone, there was quite a few conversations that had to be shut down during the set up and tear down process. We had family with us that normally do not camp with us. I felt bad about stopping the chit chat but if there's any time to focus it's then. Nice job at pointing this out..glad it wasn't a pricey mistake.
It's amazing how the everyday tasks can be forgotten. Happens to all of us. Glad you caught it in time. Really could have been an expensive oops.
That's a great part of town for moochdocking!!! Props for getting your rig into that neighborhood. And huge props for showing us your close call. A good scare is definitely preferable to a big mistake!
You are exhibiting a sense of great relief upon exiting Alaska.
Guessing some of the Alaska experience didn't make it into the videos.
All I can say is thank you. I got to live vicariously through you without experiencing the dramas and other difficulties that you all encountered. I'm even well rested.😎 Let's do this again next summer.
It was all there including the rain! We're from AZ. ☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️It's not one thing though. It's all the little things combined over 10 weeks. We mentioned in our recap video that it would have been better to do it in 45-60 days. We took more time because of the kids flights.