Can I stop the colonisers in EU4 1.37 Winds of Change?
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- Can I stop the colonisers in EU4 1.37 Winds of Change?
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Fun fact! One of the incan emperors was turned into a llama by his ex-administrator, but he managed to regain his throne with the help of a gentle llama herder
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Oh, right. The poison. The poison for Kuzco, the poison chosen especially to kill Kuzco, Kuzco's poison.
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Hey Laith, fun fact, the Incan Quippu was actually both their math and writing system. we are actually getting really close to translating the Incas written language, the Quippu. We’ve already figured out how to translate the numbers so maybe in the next few years we’ll have they’re true language
Yeah, I'm looking forward to their stories and myths. Once we decipher their language we will certainly have to correct some history.
Also alien conspiracies will probably go wild again, which is fun.
We 100% know it has writting since it as used in trials and transcribed into Spanish, so we know they send messages, in the form of testimony + accounting. Its just most of that info is in Spanish.
We actually recently started to be able to read names and some VERY limited other stuff from the few non-accounting Qipu's that survived. I somewhat doubt we'll get a full comprehension of it tho. Mostly because barely any of them survived.
I doubt we will translate more than a few words we dont have enough of them especially when its so differnt to our writting system
Came here to say exactly this! It really changed my idea of what it means to “write”
Laith, CLEARLY your cavalry are llamas!
All fear the mighty war-llamas of the Inca! The spanish never stood a chance.
I mean, camels are really not that far from llamas, evolutionary-wise. A few generations of selective breeding and you can have war llamas...
15:28 brother, that is exactly colonisation
The Inca didn't roll over when the Sapa Inca was captured like you mentioned at 35:50, serious resistance continued for 40 years. The majority of the deaths from disease happened after the spanish had everyone in forced labor camps under the Mita system. This might be historical nitpicking, but imo it's important to remember that everyone has agency: the standard story makes millions of Andeans completely passive while removing responsibility for millions of deaths from the Spanish, which imo isn't great.
Fun fact: the ancient Inca worshipped an entire roster of lesser gods, who they believed to control various elements of life, and from time to time mingled with, and even bred with humans. The most famous of these minor gods was Rutuy, who was depicted in stone carvings at both Cusco and Machu Pichu. A powerful demi-god, Rutuy was master of livestock and ranching, and took the form of a half-man, half-llama, and answered prayers related to animal husbandry, and grand strategy computer games published by Paradox Interactive.
This patch has been such a joy for me as I am a nerd for the Incan, Mayan and Aztec cultures. It's a pleasure to see you so into the history of them.
As a fellow pre-columbian America-enthusiast I can only agree. I only wish they'd have made the start a bit more challanging.
Definitely do a part 2 and make europa universalis into Inca universalis
Honestly Pizarro was just lucky... the Incans just happened to be freshly out of a civil war when he first arrived and then they also happened to be not imune to smallpox. So it was like the HRE in 1648 being hit by some kind of aliens...
_1632_ is a great book series, about a town from 2000 America (specifically West Virginia) that randomly appears in Germany during the Thirty Years' War.
@@TheFranchiseCA I know I have that book somewhere XD
This Cuzco/Inca Mission Tree reminds me of some mods in the best possible way.
Anbennar has some like this where it's sort of guiding you on what you should really be doing.
Well, that's what employing actual good modders does. It makes for some good content 😁
Oh the Inca! I can say a few things aswell about this topic. They had an exceptional road system called "Qhapaq Nan". Essentially it transported goods, and delivered messages over long distances. As you might know, transporting stuff over mountainous terrain is hard, and so it was built which took alot of resources and manpower. Their language is called Quechua, which they also call themselves (I think) and they are different from the southern people called the Aimara. As the Aztecs, they also fell due to the Spanish conquests because they desired their silver mines. Sorry for the text, but I wanted to get this out. The mission tree looks cool, will try that next time. See you. 😄
I once saw in a documentary that they had built storage houses where they kept "public goods" like cloth, utensils and such which then was distributed among the people (they didn't say or know on what basis one would get which product, but I imagine it social status was key). Vaguely akin to the distribution of goods in a communist state.
Now with your information provided I can imagine a vast road system with stops along the way where one can rest and restock supplies.
Also, they did have the wheel. Some of the toys found in the Inca empire have wheels attached to them. It just wasn't practical enough to develop it as a tool because of the mountainous terrain.
@@Astatine95and lack of draft animals
@@janekciscek288 Incas really did that, and no, there was not a european alike social status, therefore everyone received the same (what they needed to live). Everyone socially above had their own job, like taking care of the village (and keeping these storages full), the rest just worked, so while people were divided into classes, everyone did something prosperous, thus a reason why some call it communism (and socialists like it). Also everyone was equal before law, so thats that.
Actually the Inca knew how to make wheels and used them in some toys. But it makes sense that it never really came to for travel since the terrain is so mountainous
Exactly, using pack animals was a superior technology for their setting.
The Chanka Auxiliaries are mainly useful because they don't count against your force limit, so in the early game you can run a slightly larger army for a bit cheaper. They don't scale into the late game.
Love the acknowledgement that we tend to view and distort foreign histories and structures through the lenses of our own. Feels very silly over a paradox game (where EVERYONE needs renaissance or you can't progress society or understand a cannon) but I'm all for the discussion!
13:27 - Mummification of The Dead meaning ruler has died
14:33 - Pachacuti is now 6/5/5
Filthy reset smells xD
Inca had ritual beer as part of their payment for workers. Paradise on earth.
At 8:43, you can go below 90% even if not cored, there is a value behind that says exactly how much local autonomy you have, if you clicked that after the core was done you would have lower autonomy, you can check this by having 91 autonomy, lowering it, and then coring that province and compare it to just coring it.
"Considering we don't have horses"
Llama pulled chariots confirmes.
Shout out to the nation of “Wanka”
Inca's learning there's an empire in Europe; "Well well fucking well, look who's come for dinner!"
My knowledge of the inca comes mainly from Horible histories with my knowledge of pachacuti coming from the song "do the pachacuti."
Same here lol
It's always so sad to think about just how much history has been lost to the sands of time
@@luckyluciano1584 for sure some stuff isn't talked about but with how much history was oral history there absolutely has been some history lost
36:15 “uncommon in europe” *laughs in ck3*
Also, the Roman civil wars late empire are pretty textbook 'capture the emperor' wars.
Just started the video and I'm already hyped to see if Laith will be an Inti-maxxing enjoyer.
FUN FACT the Inca Empire had wheels, they used it in toys and stuff. The best theory I found about "why they didn't use carts and stuff" is that they mostly lived up on the mountains and wheels aren't very "mountain friendly".
Nice timing, just started an Inca run myself and it’s amazing
Taking the "High American" option is the worse one considering you'll gonna get it later once you finished the Sunset Invasion mission tree.
If I was Paradox, I'd make it so conquering Europe through a sunset invasion would be extremely extremely difficult.
I'd love to see more 🤘 I'm a big ck2 sunset invasion fan
MOAR OF THIS SERIES
Great Video ! More !!!
Sunset invasion or we riot!
Großartig. Mehr!
Looking more and more like a bongo player in a prog rock band by the day
Cuzco and the Inca were my first playthrough.
Turns out, technology exists. I was just developing my capital.
Aztec & Incan leader: I'm that guy
In the beginning, the Terra incognito and the discovered map; they look like a dude taking a picture of the sky.
47:51 laith finally has come to brazil!!!
Actually Laith, the Inca did have the wheel but when they looked around and saw nothing but mountains and no draft animals they realized that wheels in such a place were stupid and kept them to theory.
imagine not having a wheel while praying to the sun which literally is round
The y knew of and could make the wheel it just wasnt that useful in their hilly envious with no draft animals
Why on gods earth would you upload this at 1:00 in the morning, do you not sleep?
probably in a different timezone
@@ack7 nope, he uploads at like 1am UK (laith) time
6 pm - 9 pm Golden Upload time is the US ET time, so yeah, that happens
@@shadowbadgercat yea, he probably just schedules them to go up at this time
@@daz184o_o6Thats between 5 and 8 PM in the USA, which is where a majority of viewership for these games come from. That's also when work ends for most people, so it's probably the best upload time for him
I had a friend from Frankfurt. I'll have you know that she was moderatly capable at what she did.
About Atahualpa and Huascar: you might think that one of them won the civil war but actually the Spaniards won it. De jure the last Sapa Inca was Atahualpa, but both of them were taken hostages by the Pizarro Bros. Huascar tried to negotiate his release and asked the Spanish to help him take the throne, and when the Inca soldiers found out about him doing that they just killed him and threw his corpse away, which is unusual for a culture in which rulers were mummified and their mummies were treated with extreme respect. Atahualpa offered Pizarro a shit ton of gold but got killed nonetheless. He was offered a choice between burning on a stake and being choked to death (but only if he converted to christianity) and he obviously chose the second option because, once again, corpses were quite important for the Incas. After the conversion he adopted the name Juan, if I remember correctly. Also, fun fact: the Pizarros teached him to play chess during his imprisonment and he reportedly liked it quite a bit and also was good in it. Sad thing they killed him nonetheless.
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The inca actually did have wheels, they just weren't used for transportation because they were inneficient in the andean landscape
2:13 the history of the.,...aztec?
i wanna see you do the aztec!
Honestly the Inca are a pretty easy campaign. I'm in the mid-1700s now curbstomping Japan, Britain, and Spain and the High American units are ridiculous.
Also I have like 300 income from gold so that's pretty fun. 65% of the world's gold
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very cool!
I actually would like to know what papers you did read about Incas? Can you link them somewhere?
More also maybe the random new world back
i dont play eu4 and i dont think i will but still always good to watch a video from laith no matter the game
big incan enjoyer here!!
PLEASE MORE
GIBE US MOAR!
The lovely background music was too silent :P
the incans had no wheel, written language, labour animals or *money*. They also had a communications network so advanced that europeans on horseback couldnt match the speed of these dudes running on foot to deliver messages.
Real quick I just wanna say that european kings had the idea of the divine right to rule which is similar to the mandate of heaven but not all encompassing. Whereas the Mandate says the Emperor rulers all under heaven, and it doesn't matter how far north you go or south or west or whatever. The Divine Right of Kings says God gave me this kingdom to rule in his stead, for we are servants of God etc. The reason you have to Checkmate in Chess is due to the fact that capturing the king was very important.
sweet, my favourite nation in the game!
Day 254 of asking for an Oranje Free State Playthrough of Vicky 3.
Day 1 of asking for Congo Free State playthrough.
If that's true that's dedication. The 254, not the 1.
@@letsgowhereeaglesdare363 Well, I believe I'm stuck doing this till a year is fully gone by given what Laith told me in the set up for the NATO VS Warsaw video.
Do you count the days between video’s or do you comment on this when every day until a new vid? Always wondered
@@Averagefoxinctenjoyer If I counted the days between video's I'd have been doing this for over a year as I started this sometime in February of 2023
They had lamas
nation next to him - named WANKA lmao
When Factorio again?😮
I thought Quipu was not just a counting method but also the "written" (knotted) languag of the Inca? I might be mistaken.
Quipu could communicate more than numeral information. But whether it developed into a full writing system or (k)not is a debated topic.
Most scholars believe that if it was used as a system of writing then the writing version of it was not very well known before it fell out of use due to Pizarro's invasion.
In essence, it was about to be one if it wasn't already.
I love Khipu, do a video about Khipu!
10:19 Didn't Pachacuti just die?
edit: definitely dead by 13:25 right?
2nd edit: 14:32 HOW?
3rd edit: 16:09
Final: 22:55
Mummifying former leaders does not mean the death of current one. My guess.
@@honzazastera8699 no. it does. His PC just kept crashing at that exact point, for some reason.
Quick question about Imperator: Rome. How come that no one is playing the Terra-Indomnita mod ?
You can get up to somewhere near 28% Missionary Strength, which is just insane.
So after the capture of the sapa inca the empire wasnt under spanish control for a while.
It was heavily disorganized but resisted for many years. It even had rump and sucessor states till a killing of diplomats gave the spanish their justification to take them.out
Epic campaign.
"defeat the wanka" *chuckles*
Part 2 please
why now do i feel like taking argentina?
Glory to Tawantinsuyu!
You are my father
At 11:21 when laith reforms the religion he loses two stability and immediately following that he loses another to a comet sighted event moving him from +1 to -2. At that date (September 1456) he has 239 admin mana. In the next clip at the date April 1457, a mere 7 months later, he sits at +1 stability with 288 admin mana, an increase of 49 (consistent with him gaining 7 admin per month). It’s clear that he had no way to get that stability and this is a clear case of console command use. I can understand why he would do this but I also think the videos would be better if he rolled with the punches. #cheater
The Winds of Change update for EU4 looks insane! Can't wait to see how you turn the tide of colonization. Is a Native American world conquest possible? 🤔 #EU4 #WindsofChange #HistoryRewritten
what is this twitter like commentary #confused #EU4
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Commenting for the algorithim
Let's see Europe!
btw Atahualpa was the one who won the civil war and was captured by the Spanish
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I think a key difference in your framing of the "capture the ruler steal the kingdom" thing between the inca and china is generally you only replace the job in china. Historically we see time and time again foreign invaders come in and replace the ruling dynasty but the administration more or less carried on as was, minus a few reforms. Despite ruling the nation you generally did not have the freedom to perform sweeping changes as the internal institutions were incredibly powerdul and would fight you each step along the way, the emperor couldnt even get away with honouring his birthfather (who was also dead) with a lesser title let alone personally propose changes. Not even having hordes of foreign professional soldiers could tip the scales quite so much.
do it
Wait... didn't the incas use strings as binary code as their form of writing?
He mentions that 3 minutes in
I believe that exactly what the quipus encoded isn't entirely clear still, though I think it at least could communicate numbers and stuff
It most certainly was used as a numerical data system. Whether it had a literary use is debated, but scholarship leans towards yes; with the caveat that we probably won't ever decipher them. Since deciphering literary works is more difficult than numerical.
No way bro pronounced muisca as music-aa
Ulm for 200k?
Tbf to them I would say that the wheel in terms of transportation is maybe the most overrated invention in history. I'm not saying it wasn't important, but in popular opinion it often overshadows other things like boats (there is a reason nearly every major city was build near a river, horse drawn boats where a major mode of transporting stuff up into the 20th century) and canals or simply horses/donkeys/mules
For overland trade, pack animals like camels were a fantastic technology for many parts of the world, superior to horse-drawn carts because there were more places they could easily go.
But nothing compares to trade over navigable water.
You wasted so much mana in technology…
Day 17 of asking you to play Victoria 2 semi regulary.
I can't believe you stole my thumbnail design...
Every culture and peoples in the world displaced other and replaced populations, the most impressive peoples at doing this were the Islamic Arabics and Islamic Turkic peoples, you should know this being most likely a Arabic descended person from what was once Punic-Peonician area know at Carthage, now being Arabic Tunis, or being from a place near Egypt that was once Egyptian not arabic or Turkey which was once inhabited by more Greek like peoples, not Turks.
2:12 ERM, You are playing the INCA NOT the AZTEC! Get FACT CHECKED!
Virgin Aztec fan vs Chad Inca enjoyer (I love Incan History too)
Give the Europeans what for!
Yes. Inca were kinda communist. It very much worked for them tho.
THEY HAD WHEEL!
Jokes aside, they had, just it was totally unuseful in their irregular geography and with the lack of animals to push the wheels.
But there are plenty of pre-colonian andean toys with wheels.
Fact check: you said Aztec there not Inca
Ever heard about colonial range?🤦🏻♂️ Could have reformed MUCH earlier