People who love the pneumatic stuff needs to remember that hikoki and Milwaukee must be refilled every once in awhile. This probably costs 100-150 dollars. My hikoki nailer has been refilled 3 times. Also, the seals and such will start to leak after some time, which will require costly maintenance. Dewalt's mechanical solutions ain't as dumb as it looks. I've got two dewalt guns and two hikoki. I think the new generation dewalt will be very good!
Dewalt guns are also very well balanced and lighter. Milwaukee framer is both heavier and front heavy. Hikoki is better than Milwaukee in this area, but not as good as dewalt.
Yes, the flywheel may not be as appealing, but I'm betting it's much more durable than the canister. I've had my Dewalt 30 degree for 4 years and it has never had an issue.
Dewalt makes the best cordless framing nailer for those that don't mind the weight and noise. I have done zero maintenance so far. It has run perfectly for quick framing jobs.
I had the Dewalt 16 gauge finish gun for 5 years it was junk, I sold it and bought the Milwaukee 16 gauge second generation it’s a much better gun, it’s very good almost like a pneumatic air gun but heavier, I would definitely recommend it.
Been using the Milwaukee one for a few months now. Working great for the most part. Battery life USUALLY lasts a work day per charge. Definitely quieter. The thing is pretty heavy compared to a regular air gun
@@spilleradamI’ve have the DeWalt 16 gauge nailer for 3 years. What do you not like about it? Mine has never had a nail jam and it works smooth as butter
I guess i don't mind the sound if its actually reliable, sink full depth into lvls and don't need topping up with compressed gasses like the others do.
Glad they kept the flywheel design far superior to the air tank design which with heavy use runs out of air 6 months to a year with the dewalt you get 3 to 5 years before you have to service plus it's a lot lighter
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I really appreciate this input because I only ever hear people complaining about the flywheel, and never talking about it having any advantages
my paslode nailers are approaching 20 years old and still work like new.they just need to be cleaned and oiled a few times per year and ive probably replaced the o ring 3 times over their lifetime. its gonna be a tough decision figuring out what to replace them with when the time comes
it's probably timed and couldn't be shown in a short. There's many times where you need to adjust a piece and only have one shot to tack it in place temporarily. It's likely left on for those moments. My guess would be 10 seconds on. Just my speculation though.
I’ve used both for work. dewalt has been more reliable for me. What you have to pay attention to is the material your shooting into. If you going into hardie I set in power 1 and set nail depth all the way down and when I shoot into studs it lands perfect depth. Framing I’m usually in power 2 with 1/4-1/2 depth Milwaukee has been ok to use. It seems like it jams up on me a lot though. Both nailers shoot plastic prices everywhere. It’s nature of the beast when not using paper or coil
All tool brands have their pros and cons. DeWalt gets a bad rap from a lot of people' I have several different types in different brands of battery powered tools. Over all and for the money' I've had good service out of DeWalt tools for the past 25/30 years. Use them alot in the body shop business.
Time has change. I divorced my battery platform. Now I just go with the best tools any brand has to offer. Dewalt seems to top the market with this one
...And your hose and your compressor and an extension cord and an outlet to plug it in. I have both and I always reach for the Dewalt. If its a larger/longer job then I use both.
Total crap, I just tested two units on LSL timberstrand and both guns jammed after the first shot. The first shot wouldn’t even drive the nail fully. The old gun sucked but at least it worked. I’m a Dewalt guy for everything, over 100 batteries but this is a huge let down.
@@ToolReviewZone well when you find a woman she can churn the butter on the porch while sitting in the old rocking chair covered head to foot singing Bringing in the Sheaves
@@LigerSupremacy well it makes me feel better that I'm contributing to the United States instead of communist China who was killed over a hundred million people
@@LigerSupremacy They sell thousands because of the lock in effect a major brand has when they have proprietary batteries. The average blue collar guy isn't scouring the internet for reviews or opinions. When Carpenters discuss nail guns to buy on message boards and facebook groups, DeWalt gun is recommended last. I'd say I'm read up to about Gen 2, used Gen 1 extensively and those were not good guns. Weak and consistently misfires compared to sealed cylinder and about on par with gas. Gen 3 appears to be improved from ratings I've seen online, so it's clear progress has been made. You have to ask yourself though, did they need to take 4 iterations to catch up to gen 1 sealed cylinder nailers in terms of power, consistency? 2024 catches up to 2017.
You can say that 2017 caught up to 2013 and 2013 caught up to 2008 too. Usually the one that comes out later would do a number on their competitors. The upcoming makita will probably do a number on Milwaukee too with their user serviceability
@@Steven-fi4gf Not a deal breaker but it is an annoying sound. I've owned the 16 gauge for years so not a huge deal but would be nice if it was a bit less noisy. Very common complaint with dewalt nailers.
People who love the pneumatic stuff needs to remember that hikoki and Milwaukee must be refilled every once in awhile. This probably costs 100-150 dollars. My hikoki nailer has been refilled 3 times. Also, the seals and such will start to leak after some time, which will require costly maintenance. Dewalt's mechanical solutions ain't as dumb as it looks. I've got two dewalt guns and two hikoki. I think the new generation dewalt will be very good!
Dewalt guns are also very well balanced and lighter. Milwaukee framer is both heavier and front heavy. Hikoki is better than Milwaukee in this area, but not as good as dewalt.
I refilled my own with their ( Metabo) regulator for about 50 bucks... and I can reuse it... my Metabo rocks!
(4 years old)
Yes, the flywheel may not be as appealing, but I'm betting it's much more durable than the canister. I've had my Dewalt 30 degree for 4 years and it has never had an issue.
Anything's better than that damn air hose
Hikoki valve and you’re recharging yourself all day long. F the Milwaukee design though, unbelievable
That looks like a serious upgrade from the last model. I might actually reconsider DeWalt in their flywheel after seeing this.
Dewalt makes the best cordless framing nailer for those that don't mind the weight and noise. I have done zero maintenance so far. It has run perfectly for quick framing jobs.
Mine has been great. Not as fast as a pneumatic one but for most tasks the convenience is well worth it the half second delay.
I own the old one! Disappointed they still keep same tech. Going for milwaukee next!
They have everything lol and easy to get your stuff warrantied
I had the Dewalt 16 gauge finish gun for 5 years it was junk, I sold it and bought the Milwaukee 16 gauge second generation it’s a much better gun, it’s very good almost like a pneumatic air gun but heavier, I would definitely recommend it.
That dewalt looks really heavy duty. I own the 15ga finish milwaukee and still have pneumatic for when I frame. Love my milwaukee
Been using the Milwaukee one for a few months now. Working great for the most part. Battery life USUALLY lasts a work day per charge. Definitely quieter. The thing is pretty heavy compared to a regular air gun
@@spilleradamI’ve have the DeWalt 16 gauge nailer for 3 years. What do you not like about it? Mine has never had a nail jam and it works smooth as butter
I guess i don't mind the sound if its actually reliable, sink full depth into lvls and don't need topping up with compressed gasses like the others do.
News flash its not i threw mine away
@@Kk-gx7okNews flash, it just hit the market.
Wow, you aren't even talking about the same model 🤷
These guys are something else 🤣
Glad they kept the flywheel design far superior to the air tank design which with heavy use runs out of air 6 months to a year with the dewalt you get 3 to 5 years before you have to service plus it's a lot lighter
I really appreciate this input because I only ever hear people complaining about the flywheel, and never talking about it having any advantages
Appreciate the feedback brother, and yeah, you make a great point 👉
What kind of servicing does it need in 3-5 years?
@@blamuk The firing pin and spring wear out
Ok but if you buy a good brand like the OG air spring Metabo HPT they let you service it yourself... 5 seconds with a compressor.
The Hikoki ( or in the U.S Metabo HPT ) is a great gun and slightly lighter than the Milwaukee gun !!
It shot all those nails with no pilot holes. Impressive.
Hahaha 🤣🤣👊👊
I love my Metabo framing nailer!
my paslode nailers are approaching 20 years old and still work like new.they just need to be cleaned and oiled a few times per year and ive probably replaced the o ring 3 times over their lifetime. its gonna be a tough decision figuring out what to replace them with when the time comes
i love milwaukee tools, but their framing nailer is heavy as hell
The flywheel sound is much better than the compressor going off, if it bothers you just west ear protection?
Having the flywheel always active 🤔... wouldn't that reduce the tool life?
it's probably timed and couldn't be shown in a short. There's many times where you need to adjust a piece and only have one shot to tack it in place temporarily. It's likely left on for those moments. My guess would be 10 seconds on. Just my speculation though.
Great for pine. The end. 👍
Metabo hpt has the best cordless framing gun
Man that sound
What's the technology in DeWalt pin nailer it does not make that ramp up noise
Metabo hpt nailers are the best!!!!
Model name is the framing banshee.
I’ve used both for work. dewalt has been more reliable for me. What you have to pay attention to is the material your shooting into.
If you going into hardie I set in power 1 and set nail depth all the way down and when I shoot into studs it lands perfect depth. Framing I’m usually in power 2 with 1/4-1/2 depth
Milwaukee has been ok to use. It seems like it jams up on me a lot though.
Both nailers shoot plastic prices everywhere. It’s nature of the beast when not using paper or coil
All tool brands have their pros and cons. DeWalt gets a bad rap from a lot of people' I have several different types in different brands of battery powered tools. Over all and for the
money' I've had good service out of DeWalt tools for the past 25/30 years.
Use them alot in the body shop business.
Comments section seems to agree with each other even less than usual but somehow much more peacefully than usual too 😂
Yeah, it's weird. Usually gets pretty nasty in here 🤣👊
Time has change. I divorced my battery platform. Now I just go with the best tools any brand has to offer. Dewalt seems to top the market with this one
Keeping my air compressed nailer until these battery models get lighter...
Mine won't drive a nail for shit. Exchanged it and returned the new one.
I like how you turned down the annoying noise of this gun,i bet on the field editing won't work
My old version jambs 3-5 times a day . . .
Oh I hate this 😅 thanks for the review bro
Imagine these on their 54v system...
Why is it tearing up the wood so much 😭
Leaves yellow plastic all over the yard?
All 21* framing nail gun nails has that plastic
The Milwaukee is so much better
Is it still CO2 powered?
No dewalt guns are co2? They are mechanical flywheel.
Flywheel noise is normal on any brands battery powered nailers, its gotta build up that pressure somehow (idk how milwaukee does it)
Not on my Milwaukee. Gas charge assist...flawless action
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Milwaukee has CO2 canisters that have to be refilled every few months.
Not on the Metabo... it's the best.
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Sawhorse.....your turn
I'll stick with my air nailer
...And your hose and your compressor and an extension cord and an outlet to plug it in. I have both and I always reach for the Dewalt. If its a larger/longer job then I use both.
That's right air is the only way to go, the best frame nailer there ever was and I have been using it for 30-plus years 606 do a fast short track.
thanks dewalt for not caring about builders
Total crap, I just tested two units on LSL timberstrand and both guns jammed after the first shot. The first shot wouldn’t even drive the nail fully. The old gun sucked but at least it worked. I’m a Dewalt guy for everything, over 100 batteries but this is a huge let down.
Hate the ramp up
Dewalt makes some great tools but this isn’t one of them.
As much as I love DeWalt tools their nailers are just too damn big🛠
Your arms are too damn small. The Dewalt is perfect for me.
I'm staying away from all these convenient lazy man power tools and sticking with American-made Hammers and nails and corded brushed tools
Like I always say, why work smarter when you can work harder. That's why I still churn my own butter 👊
@@ToolReviewZone well when you find a woman she can churn the butter on the porch while sitting in the old rocking chair covered head to foot singing Bringing in the Sheaves
Why do a job in a week when you can take a whole month to do the same thing? LOL
@@LigerSupremacy well it makes me feel better that I'm contributing to the United States instead of communist China who was killed over a hundred million people
Yuck. This is a tool dewalt failed the first time and obviously failed again. Ryobi or Milwaukee is the way to go.
Wow that thing is loud. I don't use them and I haven't been around many nailers in years, but if they are all that loud I wouldn't care for them.
Not as loud as pneumatic
Compared to..? A compressor or a hammer banging all day?
Nope no way Milwaukee has it. Just a heavy sob
Worst sound ive heard. I keep trying to convince everyone to get the milwaukee guns
Looks really bulky
They're now on what? Gen 4 now? Same tech? Definition of sunk cost fallacy. Germans love a good flywheel.
They've sold thousands of them and people keep buying them because they work well if you know how to operate them effectively.
@@LigerSupremacy They sell thousands because of the lock in effect a major brand has when they have proprietary batteries. The average blue collar guy isn't scouring the internet for reviews or opinions. When Carpenters discuss nail guns to buy on message boards and facebook groups, DeWalt gun is recommended last. I'd say I'm read up to about Gen 2, used Gen 1 extensively and those were not good guns. Weak and consistently misfires compared to sealed cylinder and about on par with gas. Gen 3 appears to be improved from ratings I've seen online, so it's clear progress has been made. You have to ask yourself though, did they need to take 4 iterations to catch up to gen 1 sealed cylinder nailers in terms of power, consistency? 2024 catches up to 2017.
You can say that 2017 caught up to 2013 and 2013 caught up to 2008 too. Usually the one that comes out later would do a number on their competitors. The upcoming makita will probably do a number on Milwaukee too with their user serviceability
@@minhdaubu2363 Usually, though that isn't the case here which is why I worded it in that order.
@@N1rOx in that case it’s 2013 improved catches up to 2017?
It's too bad they couldn't dampen the sound somehow. The lighter weight is a positive at least.
Does the sound really matter at a construction site? Complain about anything 😂
@@Steven-fi4gf Not a deal breaker but it is an annoying sound. I've owned the 16 gauge for years so not a huge deal but would be nice if it was a bit less noisy. Very common complaint with dewalt nailers.