@@Matt_Mosley1983 Fury outclassed him all night besides that one moment. Wilder had all of one moment while Fury controlled the whole fight. Deal with it
Lol Gets dropped twice and brags about running the whole fight and landing pillow punches and his biggest take away from the fight is "I GoT up" fury fans are the one whos delusional. Only time I ever seen a 6 foot 9 260 pound man get dropped twice in two different rounds by a guy 50 pound lighter, talking about he won because he got up from being knocked unconscious. It reminds me of guys who lose fights to bigger guys but go hey at least I fought that guy but in this case fury is bigger , I respect him for coming back from abusing himself but I dont like that he got a sympathy draw in Another man's country. Really ask who benefited from race in that situation it dam sure wasnt wilder cause if he got knocked unconscious in another country the fight would have been stopped but as usual "some"white people dont really view black Americans as real Americans so they would rather go for A big Irish guy . Let me ask this if two guys are fighting in a alley somewhere and one guy moves around alot and looks cute and is landing soft ass pillow punches but as soon as he gets hit is either moved back or knocked down and then gets knocked unconscious are you really gonna walk away saying he won that fight? Of course not but fury really did pull a fast one on fight fans got them to buy into his sympathy story. But hell be exposed soon, almost lost to Otto wallin the other day hes a good fighter but if he fights Wilder he will be knocked out next time hes already shown he has no chance of hurting wilder but has to be perfect the whole fight. And now that hes been cut he and is getting older he wont be able to move as fast he couldn't stay out the way of Otto his last fight his time to lose is coming. I fuck with fury but he cant hit hard and hell have to out heart everybody every fight which Is possible Holmes did it in the 80's couldnt punch his way out a paper bag and was always getting dropped but would will his way to decisions and controversial wins. This ain't amatuer boxing this is professional boxing aka the hurt buisness and wilder will hurt Fury again.
Herman Hodnett the first knockdown was because he landed punches on the back of the head. Fury won because he made wilder fight his fight, and wilder couldn’t knock him out in 12 rounds
Fury whooped on him for probably 9-10 rds..come on ,why can’t people put their bias aside and be real .its sad .i like wilder,fury ,Joshua ,Ruiz ,,well I like boxing in general and I love good fights ..I admit I didn’t like wilder at first but he is about as real as it gets ..I don’t think Fury can beat wilder in a rematch ,wilder wins with a ko
AnticommentWarrior I really do not have the words to reply to that comment lol..but I will give it a try ..first off there are so many rounds in a boxing contest each round is scored ,who ever wins the most rounds wins the contest ..the only part of that fight that could have been rigged is the fact that Deontay lost more rounds than he won which should have lead to a win for Fury.what you think “should”means nothing .please go watch the fight again lmao
Joe Rogan changes his opinion more than the weather. He was in love with Fury's performance for months and now because Evander says it should have been stopped Joe agrees with him.
Rogan says what he has to to get conversations and answers going. He’s an interviewer, it’s part of the technique for having a good convo. He’s not just going to argue with guests, especially those he respects like Holyfield.
The rules say 10 count not 10 seconds. You would think that a person with as much experience as Joe Rogan has in combat sports he would know the rules.
Arm head your in every comment chatting shit its a 10 count not 10 seconds i dont need to check a shitty website any actual boxing fan already knows this fact its literally called a 10 count for a reason do more than a 10 second google search before talking bollox your wrong its as simple as that the same with a standing 10 count the ref will walk the boxer to his corner before starting the count.
Your so dumb its crazy the 10 seconds is a guideline not a rule, the ref needs time to evaluate the boxer and move to a position to start the 10 count 99% of all 10 counts are longer than 10 seconds for these reasons thats another fact but regardless of you not knowing that the 10 count was less than 10 second in this case from when he starts the count what is wrong with people in 2019 that they feel they can argue against facts and video evidence ?
@@holystone3736 hardly. That ref is very good. Hell he saved a fighters life when no one else thought he was injured. The ref doesn't care about how much time is left in a fight. If the boxer can't go on they stop the fight.
I respect Holyfield. He's one of the best heavyweights and cruiserweights ever. But i can't ever agree with what he said about countdown when Fury got clipped by Wilder. IT'S A 10 COUNT. Not 10 second count. Referee decided Fury was fit to continue. And boy he was right, since Fury ended up winning rest of the round, hurting Wilder and clearly showing he was completely fine. If a guy could hardly stand and got seriously hurt after been let to continue, that would have been a bad call. But what the referee did in that fight was SPOT ON! Obviously Holyfield is biased, since he's an American and Fury is British. And he got his ass whooped by Lennox Lewis, who's British too. That aside, i can't wait for the rematch and let the better man win!
It should be a ten second count because boxing is so corrupt, a ref could give a fighter a quicker or slower count depending on who he wants to win. A 10 sec count on a stopwatch would take all the human error out of play and make the count consistent in every fight. And if you really think Holyfield is holding a grudge against the entire UK because he lost to Lennox while he was past his prime, you're crazy as hell. I mean, Tyson bit his damn ear off and he forgave him.
Yes! And it wasn't even that dramatically long of a count. Seemed very normal to me. The only thing I don't agree with is the decision at the end. I thought Wilder did enough to win.
Fury outboxed him and would have won the fight but that was a knockout point blank period, becasue the whole 10 count thing is BULLSHIT because then the ref can just count to 10 slowly asf
Andre Knowledge357 I don’t see what his race has to do with it? I agree he’s a puppet and has to continue to be PC or he’s out of a job, but this is an opinion of his which is factually incorrect. Nothing to do with PC, as for Holyfield? He’s shot. Coming back in his 40s had a serious lasting impact on his health.
You ever looked at the shit you just took and thought “at this very moment, this could be the biggest shit in the whole world” and then, flush! It’s gone forever. Beautiful.
Show the guy some respect, he’s a warrior and yes he made millions but boxers put way more on the line than any other sport. I’ve boxed and it’s not easy. That was funny though btw but come on brotha!!!
what is holyfield on about? he says if u r on foreign ground u never get the decision, but Fury didnt get the decision, he was robbed! he clearly won on points
jonny j Draw Fury was out cold he even said he doesn’t even know how he got up well even though the ref took his time counting he had time to recover. Clearly Wilder won
@@hamzahabbas4257 That has always been the case... Also Tyson was on his feet 9 seconds after he was hit, so all the long count talk is complete nonsense.
@@hamzahabbas4257 What do you mean it doesn't make it right? It's never been 10 seconds. It's the refs job to count and make a call. Depending on the circumstances the ref needs some leeway to make their decision, since it can't be reversed and it has lots of implications. The count works fine. Either way it would make no difference since he stood up in 9 seconds, plenty of videos show this. The count was actually started early! It should only start once the opposing fighter is in the neutral corner. Fury was standing up before Wilder went to the neutral corner. So if anything the count was early...
@@bnimer92 Tyson did not win the fight. He just a white man that got dropped twice by a black man so some people think Tyson Fury won but some people also think Deontay Wilder won the fight. That equals a draw. These are facts.
Joe never cross examined anything his guests say he just says “yeah” and “interesting”, Holyfield just said wilder was knocked down and then got up and kod Ortiz which never happened
Joe does cross examine people plenty of times. He just doesn't stop an entire conversation on small minutiae like that, which doesn't actually serve the advancement of the discussion. What would it actually serve to the discussion for Joe to say "No, he wasn't dropped, he was rocked badly and was almost out on his feet." Just like how Joe didn't correct Him when he said "Joshua got knocked down 3 times" when he actually got knocked down 4 times. It doesn't change crux of what Holyfield is saying.
Honestly that's about the same difference. 19 you're not physically mature or skillfully mature, whereas at 46 you're stronger but not as quick, skillful but not as agile. Decent trade off and relatively even matching the 46 yr old strength of a seasoned athlete will probably give the advantage
@@stephen8996 you missed the biggest variable RISK. A young kid can recover easily and therefore is willing to drop bombs and fight hard. A 46 year old is in a completely different mind set.
A lot of black dudes love beating the white man. Could be racially motivated bias, knocked down or not Fury connected way more punches than Wilder and won most rounds imo
Fury didn't win. I love Fury, but he decisively lost that fight. Give the exact same statistics from the fight to someone that isn't Tyson Fury and they lose unanimously. Really they would have waved it off at that last knockdown. Anyone that Tyson WON the fight is letting his storyline jade their decision. The storyline made it so there was ZERO chance Wilder was going to win a decision, he would have had to knock him out and he did, but even that they took away from him. But you cant honestly win a fight when you score 0 knockdowns, get floored twice yourself, get the benefit of a long count, get the benefit of having the fight not stopped, and still only land 13 more punches. Dude look at the fight stats, Fury lost the fight easily, but that goddamn storyline, which has no business influencing the fight results, influenced tons of people. They wanted Fury to win, so they convinced themselves that he did. I just wanted him to do well and he did relatively well against a monster like Wilder, but he lost and there's no shame in it. The next fight will also be scored exactly the same, in Fury's favor, so Wilder will need to put him away. I think it's highly likely that Fury at least gets completely knocked out, but also it's relatively likely that he gets seriously injured because if he gets up from one that the ref should have stopped it on Wilder is going to throw a few punches aiming to put him into the ICU and could end up killing him. I love Fury and his story, but it has no place influencing fights. That's also what Holyfield was saying.
@@rpsnider85 Fury beat him every single round. Even if you mark the 2 times he got knocked down as 10-8s to Wilder, then Fury still won, and that's giving Wilder a 10-8 for the last knock down where when Fury got back up he boxed his head off.
Yeah, he got up eventually. Perhaps in a shorter amount of time than most would have. But still didn't happen in 10 seconds. Shrug. Was a masterpiece of a fight. Honestly, it is a blessing that we are getting a second fight.
Joe said one thing to tyson fury and the complete opposite now, im dissapointed in him for that because tyson beat the count and got robbed but theres no mention of that now ? Tut tut.....
@@jord9197 it's called life bro, personal perception, point of view, change of mind after the fact he said 1 thing, but nobody in life does that tho rite?......plus he don't give a fuck if your disappointed in him.....so ta-ta bitch🤣🤣💯
You're all wrong, it's no "mistake" lol Joe started with that when he knew Wilder was coming on the show. He damn well knows who won that fight. Robbed Fury of his comeback, and the people of one of the greatest comeback stories in boxing and coming back from depression. Those judges should be ashamed. Love Joe and JRE but that was so disappointing to me.
Joe is obsessed with this, as most Wilder fans are. Fury comprehensively boxed the head off the crude slugger for 11 previous rounds, whilst taking the fight at 60% fitness (hasten to add the reason why Wilder’s handlers choose Fury because thought he’d be a soft touch). Wilder has a terribly padded record aside from Ortiz. He’s never fought an active/dangerous heavyweight in their prime and beaten them. I’d wager that the young heavyweight prospect Daniel Dubois would knock seven bells out of him.
@@Jason-sn1wt Ha you wish. Deonte took every hit from a man who is 2.06M and well over 130KGs. Dont forget who knocked his fat ass down. Get over the fact a a thin muscular black guy defeated him.
@@justinjohnson1766 It sounds more like your just made a muscled black man got beaten by an overweight enlglishman That, or you know absolutely nothing about boxing.
Haha!! Hey When Joe Says "Champion of the world" In Reality after Bringing Holyfield on here. Joe is the Motherfuckin world. He brings all the world on his show!
Yeah he’s fucked up there , the one that blew me away was when him and schaub were talking about it and he said “I don’t agree with the decision but I’m not upset with it” how can you be the same person who calls for more accuracy on statistics and numbers and calculations in fights and then say you think the decision was morally correct in your head so it was the right thing to do? He literally might aswell say “well deontay should’ve lost but as I feel like I don’t mind a draw then it’s ok”
@@N1ghtstar4 totally agree, end of the day if he is fully cognitive fight should carry on, that's what makes PPV. No fight should be waved off, no matter how brutal. IMO that Ref is fantastic and would like to see him more in big fights.
"The referee should have saved the fighter?" be glad he didn't, or else fury wouldn't have had the chance to prove that he was still in it by winning the rest of the damn round!
@@willhumphreys2588 that's assuming the fighter actually won every other round... and that example doesnt even apply to this because fury got dropped in 2 separate rounds and rounds 1-5 had to little to no action in from fury outside of him not getting rocked... so nah he didnt school anybody and got touched on several occasions throughout the fight
Danny Gibson you don’t win a boxing match based on knockdowns.. unless it’s a KO it’s always scored in how many rounds are won. Give those 2 rounds to Wilder because of the knockdowns and maybe another and it’s still 9-3 Fury.
Arm head your wrong its a 10 count not 10 seconds i doubt you will ever see an exact 10 second count because that not the rules the refs are given more than an exact 10 count because they need this time to make a decision this is literally a fact you cant argue the rules its why its called a 10 " count " not a 10 second count its the refs discretion to make the decision and he was right because he got up and won the rest of the round.
Top 3 mysteries of heavyweight division: - How Fury got up from that knockdown - What happened to Jousha before Ruiz fight - Why right headphone of Evander didnt fall down
Fury won almost each round and even the round he got knocked down he came back and won. Every boxing analyst had Fury winning the fight. How the judges had it a draw is a joke and Wilder got a gift decision
Shawn Erickstad posing to the crowd doesn’t win u the fight! Go back n watch without commentary fury wasn’t even barely doin anything during his so called dominant rounds! N the ref should have stopped it the minute he was knocked out n on his back it should’ve been waived off!
@@Dingoplexor he got up and finished the round strong. Your lucky they handed wilder a draw cause 98 percent of all the pro boxers and greats scored fury the win by 2 rounds even after the two knock downs. Good thing fury was listening the the ref counting so he got up in time . fury has no power and only Holyfield and 1 or 2 other pros out of hundreds actually think wilder won . truth. Good day to you
Shawn Erickstad because it’s boxing it’s always corrupt,like ref saved him from Ortiz,plus way managed to be around 10 years and duck every good fighter going specially big punchers,and way had that belt so long only fought two good opponents,and how does fury 3 years laying on couch binge eating and drinking and taking coke can come back and get a shot at the title ahead off all other fighters ??,because wilder cherry picked him thinking he’s finished and got schooled,
It was a really exciting fight, Fury should have won on points but he was also lucky that the ref didn't wave the fight off as he lost consciousness after second knockdown, bring on the re-match!
Why does Joe keep saying it was over 10 seconds? There's tons of videos on CZcams proving it was under 10 seconds. They even have exact milliseconds on the clock as well. He hit the canvas at 2:21 of the 12th and was up on his feet at 2:12. That is under 10 seconds much less a 10 count.
10 seconds or not it's the referees count that matters, Wilder talking about he won just to be able to advocate another fight , deep down inside he knows he lost. He is just trying to protect his career and ego.
The Referee actually said that From his back on the canvass, Fury looked him in the eye, and that's why he didn't stop the fight. He says that Fury clearly wasn't hurt or disoriented, based on eye contact, so he continued the count.
@@insignificant2you are you kidding? He fought a good fight but he wasn't even in the same zip code of being considered to have won that fight. He did a good job to not get knocked out and that's about all.
HOLYFIELD: they should have stopped the fight. Usually the fight would have been stopped. ROGAN: Well thank god he didn't HOLYFIELD: Well I don't know about that ROGAN: but Tyson won the rest of the round HOLYFIELD:........ errrrr yeah he did END OF DISCUSSION!!!
No. What if tyson got up and got killed because of a negligent ref? Im glad the fight wasnt stopped but i also understand the point holyfield is making
@@mahadism7455 it's a mute point, because a boxer can finish a fight on their feet, win and then have a brain haemorrhage in the dressing room. It's a straw man argument. The ref wasn't negligent clearly. He is just sticking up for his countryman which is fair enough, I ain't go no problem with that, but he talking nonsense.
@@mahadism7455 but after fury got up he didn't just let him fight he made him walk up and down the ring to make sure he was good on his feet. Excellent refereeing imo
@@yomo1690 how is that a strawman argument? lol your exemple was horrible finnishing a fight on your feet and winning onlh to have a brain hemmorage later on has nithig to do with a negligent (most likely) BUT getting flattened out for 6 seconds only to get uo and get blasted again AND THEN die now thats because of a negligent ref. Two very very different exemples.
@@stevendonovan7564 dont get me wrong fury won that fight. Btwith the deaths of two boxers being highlighted just a few months ago i think its important to take fighter safety into account. For exemple if a guy falls down flat like fury did in Mma the fight would've been stopped before any ground and pound could be administered.
Aaron Helliadis Couldn't hit anything? He's knocked out all of his opponents including tyson fury. get a ref that knows how to count, and it would've been another win
Archduke Franz Ferdinand I love Wilder also. It was a long count but it wasn’t blatant. Draw was the right call. Fury was the better boxer in most of the fight but he should have been ko’d
lakoncers13 I had fury winnin before the second knockdown and had it A win by KO except they long counted. So the Draw was cool rematch should’ve been right away but Fury ran off with a moral victory fighting absolute no names
Furry made Wilder miss all night, everytime wilder missed Furry would counterpunch at will, yes wilder caught him in the 12 but Furry got up and smacked him around for the rest of the round, Furry was literally putting his hands behind his back and laughing at wilder because it was so easy to outbox him, Furry completely exposed what most boxing fans already knew. Biggest robbery I've ever seen.
@@jaketurnbull23 Wilder won rnds 13579and 12. Fury won 246 10 and 11. They put mayweather on the mic. They gave Fury points for showboating. Jack Reece broke protocol and let an unconscious fighter continue. Wilder had the deck pretty well stacked against him and STILL kept his "ACTUAL TITLE" and has defended 9 times now.
I understand what he’s saying but a ref would’ve stopped the fight if Tyson got up and wasn’t defending himself, but instead Tyson beat wilder for the rest of the round
Sounds like you don’t understand what he’s saying at all. What he’s trying to say is that in most boxing matches when you got knocked down especially in a later round and you look to be out cold the way fury was. Refs don’t even bother with the 10 count, they simply call the fight right there and then. He does have a point, refs do tend to do that and protect the fighter in those cases.
Dude, he's been talking like that for decades. It's nothing new. You should check out that old Madtv skit about Holyfield on QVC "everyone know that Tyson got the toe jam, that's why he bite."
10 count not 10 seconds the difference is boxing refs never count like humans so a ref count is really not a second it's like ooonnnnneeee small pause twwwwwwoooooo. He got up and fought and won the round.
Nooow holyfield forgetting they gave wilder 16 seconds when he came out at the beginning of the round against ortiz cuz his legs was wabbling. Holyfield bias af.
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The count was pretty close to 10 seconds and he was definitely standing up at 10 seconds. What’s the rule if the boxer is up at 10 seconds then answers he is fine
Not only. Boxing rules require the timekeeper, after a knockdown, to immediately begin calling off the seconds, indicating the count with a motion of his arm. At least in the pros from what we can see from the 12 Rd fury/wilder knockdown from a random example.
Actually it doesn't, the ringside starts the count when he goes down. The ref picks it up once he has him in the neutral. That's why he starts the count at 4 rather than 1.
It hurts me to hear him talk, now. I was such a Holyfield fan. He so was exciting to watch. It was like he had a reserve tank he could tap at the perfect time.
Oh yeah... With Dillian Whyte failing a drug test and still Fighting... Fury failing a post fight test and keeping his belts... And let's not forget the rabbit punching contest with Nigel Benn and G-MAN. Shut up fool
It’s well known the us judges pick who they prefer whether they won or not. They had Ortiz losing to wilder yet every true boxing fan had Ortiz ahead. They stopped Ruiz fight early to boost the fan base of the Mexicans for Ruiz. Fury won against Wilder and gave it to him because surprise surprise it’s in his homeland. Says it all when the boxing greats and commentators all said fury won. Anywhere else Wilder would’ve lost.
Katie Taylor, Josh Warrington, Josh Kelly all got robbed decisions recently in the UK.. they are more corrupt with the behind the scenes over there.. you got UK boxers saying UKAD never tested them in a 13 year career.. then look at the Olympics in 2012, they handed the gold to Joshua and who knows what other bullshit they pulled.. every Matchroom card is mired in controversy and terrible judging in addition to incompetent refereeing
@@MrErnieHanks don't forget about Gabe Rosado getting robbed in the UK too. Also, Anderson Silva getting robbed by Bisping in the UFC, you can't spell flUKe without the U.K.
@@sanantoballa4834 I disagree completely. I saw the fight, AJ got up 4-5 times. You don't get up that many times from such heavy punches if you're giving up. In my opinion, he simply went in with the wrong strategy and instead of adapting to Ruiz he kept trying the same thing over and over, trying to win HIS way instead of the right way. He was wrong and lost because of it but he's no quitter.
cloudtx The last time he got dropped, he walked to his corner, didn’t take his arms off the ropes and never walked towards the ref when he was asked if he was ready to box... So he was either dazed and couldn’t continue or simply didn’t want to step back in and fight.
@@sanantoballa4834 You're correct. I believe he was dazed. The ref made the right call in stopping the fight. I still disagree with calling him a quitter though. He didn't give up, he simply made mistakes and his state didn't let him continue fighting.
Yeah it was apparently to inspect for a cut that wasn't there of course. It was plain corruption. Wilder is a fabricated fighter. Great puncher, but god awful boxer.
@@richc.1104 Thats not what he said i dont remember exactly which interview it was but i watched it recently and he never mentioned headbutts, and im not saying he never said that a long time ago
Holyfield should shut up when wilder was rocked after the rounds wasn’t he given more seconds to recover by telling him to go see the medic and move to the side
@Jimbo Jones I would say He lives on the boarder. I heard Him speaking a few years ago and He sounded a little worse, so maybe His brain has kind of healed up a little. But He does sound a lot like Ali sounded before He got real bad.
I'm from Atlanta and I always thought that evander was from Atlanta to? I know he had a house here that's for sure but also thought he grew up in Atlanta you learn something new folks everyday... Every single day
Evander clearly dislikes tyson fury, maybe its his name.
Tyson lost. Deal with it.
@Dean Mulready doubt it
@@Matt_Mosley1983 Fury outclassed him all night besides that one moment. Wilder had all of one moment while Fury controlled the whole fight. Deal with it
Lol Gets dropped twice and brags about running the whole fight and landing pillow punches and his biggest take away from the fight is "I GoT up" fury fans are the one whos delusional. Only time I ever seen a 6 foot 9 260 pound man get dropped twice in two different rounds by a guy 50 pound lighter, talking about he won because he got up from being knocked unconscious. It reminds me of guys who lose fights to bigger guys but go hey at least I fought that guy but in this case fury is bigger , I respect him for coming back from abusing himself but I dont like that he got a sympathy draw in Another man's country. Really ask who benefited from race in that situation it dam sure wasnt wilder cause if he got knocked unconscious in another country the fight would have been stopped but as usual "some"white people dont really view black Americans as real Americans so they would rather go for A big Irish guy . Let me ask this if two guys are fighting in a alley somewhere and one guy moves around alot and looks cute and is landing soft ass pillow punches but as soon as he gets hit is either moved back or knocked down and then gets knocked unconscious are you really gonna walk away saying he won that fight? Of course not but fury really did pull a fast one on fight fans got them to buy into his sympathy story. But hell be exposed soon, almost lost to Otto wallin the other day hes a good fighter but if he fights Wilder he will be knocked out next time hes already shown he has no chance of hurting wilder but has to be perfect the whole fight. And now that hes been cut he and is getting older he wont be able to move as fast he couldn't stay out the way of Otto his last fight his time to lose is coming. I fuck with fury but he cant hit hard and hell have to out heart everybody every fight which Is possible Holmes did it in the 80's couldnt punch his way out a paper bag and was always getting dropped but would will his way to decisions and controversial wins. This ain't amatuer boxing this is professional boxing aka the hurt buisness and wilder will hurt Fury again.
Herman Hodnett the first knockdown was because he landed punches on the back of the head. Fury won because he made wilder fight his fight, and wilder couldn’t knock him out in 12 rounds
Thats the difference between an elite ref and a world level ref.
Well done ref 👍🏻
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@MUFC the thing is that no one fucking asked I’m a Man Utd fan but stfu
@MUFC wtf is soccer its football you dumb fuck
Stfu
Joe “No one knows how old Luis Ortiz is because he’s from Cuba” Rogan
Dave S read that right as he said it lol
Of course Cubans are famously slapdash when it comes to recognising the rotation of the earth...damn Commies!
He is getting on a bit, cos I hear he used to spar with John L Sullivan
@@thewatchman6074 Romero said that they are from the same generation and they used to be in the same olimpic facilities
LOL
Evander “Tyson fury had 37minute count” Holyfield
christian CoulsonLOL
Deontay has more excuses than boxing skills
I sense Holyfield didn't like Fury whooping up on that Alabama boy.
Colt Johnson. It wasn’t a whooping, he out boxed Deontay. If anything Wilder whooped Furys ass with those knockdowns
Fury missed a lot of punches...he even said Wilder is elusive
Fury whooped on him for probably 9-10 rds..come on ,why can’t people put their bias aside and be real .its sad .i like wilder,fury ,Joshua ,Ruiz ,,well I like boxing in general and I love good fights ..I admit I didn’t like wilder at first but he is about as real as it gets ..I don’t think Fury can beat wilder in a rematch ,wilder wins with a ko
@@THEBIGO79 he didnt whoop he outboxed only one person was knocked down twice and literally knocked out before he got up
AnticommentWarrior I really do not have the words to reply to that comment lol..but I will give it a try ..first off there are so many rounds in a boxing contest each round is scored ,who ever wins the most rounds wins the contest ..the only part of that fight that could have been rigged is the fact that Deontay lost more rounds than he won which should have lead to a win for Fury.what you think “should”means nothing .please go watch the fight again lmao
Dear Joe,
Tyson beat the count.
Regards,
Everyone
I don’t think so I feel the tie was fair and should be a rematch soon
it’s not seconds, it’s a verbal count and Tyson beat it, combat sports are discretionary, even the scoring.
There was a clock during the count so I don't get this bs about Tyson not beating the count?
Tyson got up to the refs count if it'd been quicker he'd have got up earlier.
@@glittpow4540 The tie was FAIR??? The fuck?
Evander talks like someone is jabbing him in the face while hes trying to speak.
hahahah omg
He boxed too long. Legendary fighter though
words are dribbling out his mouth
Yep. Brain damage smh
It’s tragic
Joe Rogan changes his opinion more than the weather. He was in love with Fury's performance for months and now because Evander says it should have been stopped Joe agrees with him.
true
Rogan says what he has to to get conversations and answers going. He’s an interviewer, it’s part of the technique for having a good convo. He’s not just going to argue with guests, especially those he respects like Holyfield.
😂😂😂
He didn't agree that, that fight should have been stopped. He agreed that most fights would have been stopped. Which is correct
Yea joe is a yes man
The rules say 10 count not 10 seconds. You would think that a person with as much experience as Joe Rogan has in combat sports he would know the rules.
Johnny Herrera that’s true and it’s the ref’s job to count and the fighters job to take advantage of the count.
I like Joe and he says he is a long life boxing fan, which is true but his knowledege about the sport is of a casual.
Nope. Check boxrec for the rules. It’s 10 seconds, not a 10 count.
Arm head your in every comment chatting shit its a 10 count not 10 seconds i dont need to check a shitty website any actual boxing fan already knows this fact its literally called a 10 count for a reason do more than a 10 second google search before talking bollox your wrong its as simple as that the same with a standing 10 count the ref will walk the boxer to his corner before starting the count.
Your so dumb its crazy the 10 seconds is a guideline not a rule, the ref needs time to evaluate the boxer and move to a position to start the 10 count 99% of all 10 counts are longer than 10 seconds for these reasons thats another fact but regardless of you not knowing that the 10 count was less than 10 second in this case from when he starts the count what is wrong with people in 2019 that they feel they can argue against facts and video evidence ?
No ref is stopping that fight in the 12th round. That’s crazy
jamie lahugh Cesar Chavez got a knockdown and only 2-3 seconds left in the 12th the opponent got up and the ref called the fight
jamie lahugh your mother is crazy
@@Jc-si6pj yes and that was considered total bs from the ref
Biggest lie Ever Told
@@holystone3736 hardly. That ref is very good. Hell he saved a fighters life when no one else thought he was injured. The ref doesn't care about how much time is left in a fight. If the boxer can't go on they stop the fight.
I respect Holyfield. He's one of the best heavyweights and cruiserweights ever. But i can't ever agree with what he said about countdown when Fury got clipped by Wilder. IT'S A 10 COUNT. Not 10 second count. Referee decided Fury was fit to continue. And boy he was right, since Fury ended up winning rest of the round, hurting Wilder and clearly showing he was completely fine. If a guy could hardly stand and got seriously hurt after been let to continue, that would have been a bad call. But what the referee did in that fight was SPOT ON! Obviously Holyfield is biased, since he's an American and Fury is British. And he got his ass whooped by Lennox Lewis, who's British too. That aside, i can't wait for the rematch and let the better man win!
It should be a ten second count because boxing is so corrupt, a ref could give a fighter a quicker or slower count depending on who he wants to win. A 10 sec count on a stopwatch would take all the human error out of play and make the count consistent in every fight. And if you really think Holyfield is holding a grudge against the entire UK because he lost to Lennox while he was past his prime, you're crazy as hell. I mean, Tyson bit his damn ear off and he forgave him.
Dude was knocked out, count didn't matter.
Yes! And it wasn't even that dramatically long of a count. Seemed very normal to me. The only thing I don't agree with is the decision at the end. I thought Wilder did enough to win.
Fury outboxed him and would have won the fight but that was a knockout point blank period, becasue the whole 10 count thing is BULLSHIT because then the ref can just count to 10 slowly asf
well said, exactly what i said, brilliant call from the ref and furys performance for the rest of the round PROVED the ref was right.
“What bothers me is the count was longer than 10 seconds.”
Joe Rogan has just made himself look a fool.
What's most important is, nobody cares! :)
Is he not right though?
Kalernor no, anyone with half a brain who has done the relevant research will see Fury was up inside 10 seconds. Next.
Andre Knowledge357 I don’t see what his race has to do with it?
I agree he’s a puppet and has to continue to be PC or he’s out of a job, but this is an opinion of his which is factually incorrect. Nothing to do with PC, as for Holyfield? He’s shot. Coming back in his 40s had a serious lasting impact on his health.
Except when it was 12 seconds..
Who else watching this on the toilet?
Edit:
Thank y'all so much for my first ever top comment. Toilet watchers unite!
Lol
I get where you're coming from
At work on the toilet...
What the fuck
You ever looked at the shit you just took and thought “at this very moment, this could be the biggest shit in the whole world” and then, flush! It’s gone forever. Beautiful.
Boxing is a hell of a drug.
So what if I rubbed my boots on Eddie Murphy couch
Eric Vargas for real though. We all think they're just punchy but I'm sure they had a little cocaine here and there lol.
Cocaine is a hell of a sport.
@@johndawhale3197 sports are cocaine 😂
Show the guy some respect, he’s a warrior and yes he made millions but boxers put way more on the line than any other sport. I’ve boxed and it’s not easy. That was funny though btw but come on brotha!!!
what is holyfield on about? he says if u r on foreign ground u never get the decision, but Fury didnt get the decision, he was robbed! he clearly won on points
Draw
Fury won. Everyone knows. Holyfield is just taking his fellow Alabama native's back, either that or the CTE is worse than it seems on the surface.
Draw
@@Quoteunquot3 draw
jonny j Draw Fury was out cold he even said he doesn’t even know how he got up well even though the ref took his time counting he had time to recover. Clearly Wilder won
Tyson was robbed because the yanks didnt like a brit coming over and schooling their only heavyweight hope..
He dropped him twice. I'm English and I reckon next fight fury will get kod
Still calling us yanks? I was rooting for fury u "twat"
Twat
Wrong reason, he was robbed to make the rematch more profitable.
@will Boog w0000w such hatred, such self esteem problems. Less of that thanks
It's not ten seconds , it's a ten count Jesus Christ how many more times.
It also didn't last longer than 10 seconds. Some bs that people started spreading and isn't even true. But you're right, it's not even the rule.
The problem is that the 10 count could vary between fighters giving some more time to recover than others
@@hamzahabbas4257 That has always been the case... Also Tyson was on his feet 9 seconds after he was hit, so all the long count talk is complete nonsense.
@@Neil-qg9cw always been the case dosent mean its right
Btw i personally think fury made the count
@@hamzahabbas4257 What do you mean it doesn't make it right? It's never been 10 seconds. It's the refs job to count and make a call. Depending on the circumstances the ref needs some leeway to make their decision, since it can't be reversed and it has lots of implications. The count works fine. Either way it would make no difference since he stood up in 9 seconds, plenty of videos show this. The count was actually started early! It should only start once the opposing fighter is in the neutral corner. Fury was standing up before Wilder went to the neutral corner. So if anything the count was early...
Fury won the fight
End of discussion
Wallin got robbed!!!
Thank you... i wanted to go on a rant, even the way Joe made up that slow ass count
Fury got special treatment vs Wilder & Wallin. He'll be in the WWE exclusively soon.
@@bnimer92 Tyson did not win the fight. He just a white man that got dropped twice by a black man so some people think Tyson Fury won but some people also think Deontay Wilder won the fight. That equals a draw. These are facts.
Gerald Johnson The facts are Fury won 9 rounds, keep that race shit out of it, you doubled down on being a dumbass
Joe never cross examined anything his guests say he just says “yeah” and “interesting”, Holyfield just said wilder was knocked down and then got up and kod Ortiz which never happened
he was talking about round 7 where wilder was rocked for 40 seconds but was able to survive the round
You'd be in awe if Evander Holyfield was infront of you as well man, he's a living legend.
I think he understands that Holyfield is punch drunk, didn't want to hurt his feelings.
It’s because he’s fan boying.. he’s a big fan of that beast in front of him
Joe does cross examine people plenty of times. He just doesn't stop an entire conversation on small minutiae like that, which doesn't actually serve the advancement of the discussion. What would it actually serve to the discussion for Joe to say "No, he wasn't dropped, he was rocked badly and was almost out on his feet." Just like how Joe didn't correct Him when he said "Joshua got knocked down 3 times" when he actually got knocked down 4 times. It doesn't change crux of what Holyfield is saying.
Fury won and everyone knows it. Why is this even a conversation?
Bullshit, that one fight probably took 5 years off Furys career, he was literally dead for 14 seconds
U idiot if everyone knew it there wouldn't be thousands of debates arguments going on. TILTHISDay!
Fury admitted to being unconscious which means it should have been a KO. The End.
@@wvtte6549 he actually did say he was out for a few seconds and he came to and realized he was looking up at the ref counting.
Matt Cook. Wtf do you know about boxing? Out here looking like a gay pirate. GTFOH. Wilder got gypsy robbed in that fight.
46 years vs 19 years. No wonder he didn't want to fight him.
HealthyMealthy 😂😂😂
There’s video of it on CZcams
its about the knowledge of the sport and the maturity at that age, thats what he meant
Honestly that's about the same difference. 19 you're not physically mature or skillfully mature, whereas at 46 you're stronger but not as quick, skillful but not as agile. Decent trade off and relatively even matching the 46 yr old strength of a seasoned athlete will probably give the advantage
@@stephen8996 you missed the biggest variable RISK. A young kid can recover easily and therefore is willing to drop bombs and fight hard. A 46 year old is in a completely different mind set.
Sour grapes from Holyfield. Doesn't like to admit Fury won.
I Eat Snickers For Breakfast And What Fury didn’t win
A lot of black dudes love beating the white man. Could be racially motivated bias, knocked down or not Fury connected way more punches than Wilder and won most rounds imo
Fury didn't win. I love Fury, but he decisively lost that fight. Give the exact same statistics from the fight to someone that isn't Tyson Fury and they lose unanimously. Really they would have waved it off at that last knockdown. Anyone that Tyson WON the fight is letting his storyline jade their decision. The storyline made it so there was ZERO chance Wilder was going to win a decision, he would have had to knock him out and he did, but even that they took away from him. But you cant honestly win a fight when you score 0 knockdowns, get floored twice yourself, get the benefit of a long count, get the benefit of having the fight not stopped, and still only land 13 more punches. Dude look at the fight stats, Fury lost the fight easily, but that goddamn storyline, which has no business influencing the fight results, influenced tons of people. They wanted Fury to win, so they convinced themselves that he did. I just wanted him to do well and he did relatively well against a monster like Wilder, but he lost and there's no shame in it.
The next fight will also be scored exactly the same, in Fury's favor, so Wilder will need to put him away. I think it's highly likely that Fury at least gets completely knocked out, but also it's relatively likely that he gets seriously injured because if he gets up from one that the ref should have stopped it on Wilder is going to throw a few punches aiming to put him into the ICU and could end up killing him. I love Fury and his story, but it has no place influencing fights. That's also what Holyfield was saying.
@@rpsnider85 Fury beat him every single round. Even if you mark the 2 times he got knocked down as 10-8s to Wilder, then Fury still won, and that's giving Wilder a 10-8 for the last knock down where when Fury got back up he boxed his head off.
@@thegreatdel9679 You're right. No way he beat the 10 count. Put his and Wilder's knockdowns beside eachother and then tell me who won.
Dude, Deontay gave Tyson his best shot and Tyson got up. Plain and simple.
wait 1 month more..he will switch off :))
He gave him two incredible punches. In the 12th. And fury got up and took back the round.
Yeah, he got up eventually. Perhaps in a shorter amount of time than most would have. But still didn't happen in 10 seconds. Shrug.
Was a masterpiece of a fight. Honestly, it is a blessing that we are getting a second fight.
it doesn't matter anymore because wilder got fucked up by fury
He got up aftwr 14 second count sure
The rules are a “ten count” not ten seconds! God damn
Yea but they where making the point that the time that they're getting counted out should be the same for each fight. To make it fair.
Lol you Uk dudes are hilarious grabbing at straws
@@PAGoldenglovechamp06 its u lot grabbing at straws trying to change the queensburry rules to suit your fighter
That's the point he's making. It makes it easy to play favorites in how you administer the count, as the ref.
fury was up before 10 seconds anyway
“It was 30 seconds” 😂 lol
Yooper eh? Yeah, he was exaggerating. It was actually 22.5 seconds.
Joe said one thing to tyson fury and the complete opposite now, im dissapointed in him for that because tyson beat the count and got robbed but theres no mention of that now ? Tut tut.....
@@jord9197 it's called life bro, personal perception, point of view, change of mind after the fact he said 1 thing, but nobody in life does that tho rite?......plus he don't give a fuck if your disappointed in him.....so ta-ta bitch🤣🤣💯
@@Blankman_93 spico
I hate grown crybabies like you. Get over it tyson got his ass rocked😂😂
Joe is definitely wrong about the knockdown on Fury. It was not more than ten seconds. And even if it was, it has always been a 10 count.
FearsEdge joe is famous for not understanding boxing rules
You're all wrong, it's no "mistake" lol Joe started with that when he knew Wilder was coming on the show. He damn well knows who won that fight. Robbed Fury of his comeback, and the people of one of the greatest comeback stories in boxing and coming back from depression. Those judges should be ashamed. Love Joe and JRE but that was so disappointing to me.
Joe is obsessed with this, as most Wilder fans are. Fury comprehensively boxed the head off the crude slugger for 11 previous rounds, whilst taking the fight at 60% fitness (hasten to add the reason why Wilder’s handlers choose Fury because thought he’d be a soft touch).
Wilder has a terribly padded record aside from Ortiz. He’s never fought an active/dangerous heavyweight in their prime and beaten them.
I’d wager that the young heavyweight prospect Daniel Dubois would knock seven bells out of him.
Jacob fury already came back he had two fights before wilder
Potheadz YT no I was just saying he already had tune up fights cuz u gotta respect wilder for what he does he ko,d Stiverne and Ortiz,breazle
If the fight was anywhere else in the world tyson fury would have won.
@@justinjohnson1766 lmao sloppy? He beat tf out of wilder.
@@Jason-sn1wt Ha you wish. Deonte took every hit from a man who is 2.06M and well over 130KGs. Dont forget who knocked his fat ass down. Get over the fact a a thin muscular black guy defeated him.
@@justinjohnson1766 It sounds more like your just made a muscled black man got beaten by an overweight enlglishman
That, or you know absolutely nothing about boxing.
He would have lost anywhere else. Holyfield was right. Fury had 30secs to recover
@@krisjohnston5569 Watch the fight again moron, he lost to Wilder. Wilder was the hard hitter. Get the fuck over it.
Evander *"The Original Yoel Romero"* Holyfield
Haha!! Hey When Joe Says "Champion of the world"
In Reality after Bringing Holyfield on here. Joe is the Motherfuckin world. He brings all the world on his show!
Tanner Steele wtf are you talking about
@@PAGoldenglovechamp06 😄😂🤣
GODDAMN HOLYFIELD WAS A MONSTER IN HIS DAY.
ABSOLUTELY STUNNING.
Tyson Fury without a doubt won that fight.
He was also up before the 10 count.
He won with only 11 more shots landed uh
@Dana Najem drugs woke him up..it's impossible to be out then get it without wobbling or anything
Survived *
Joe still hasn't learnt the actual rules then....
Yeah he’s fucked up there , the one that blew me away was when him and schaub were talking about it and he said “I don’t agree with the decision but I’m not upset with it” how can you be the same person who calls for more accuracy on statistics and numbers and calculations in fights and then say you think the decision was morally correct in your head so it was the right thing to do? He literally might aswell say “well deontay should’ve lost but as I feel like I don’t mind a draw then it’s ok”
Literally
@@N1ghtstar4 totally agree, end of the day if he is fully cognitive fight should carry on, that's what makes PPV. No fight should be waved off, no matter how brutal. IMO that Ref is fantastic and would like to see him more in big fights.
Has it occurred to you that maybe he didn't want to get into an argument with a Punch-Drunk Holyfield?
Not really cos I'm an adult
"The referee should have saved the fighter?" be glad he didn't, or else fury wouldn't have had the chance to prove that he was still in it by winning the rest of the damn round!
the fight wasnt close, fury absolutley schooled him
Shut up lmao how can you win a fight that you got knocked down twice in?
So if someone got knocked down twice in the first round then won the next 11 it wouldn’t be a schooling?
@@willhumphreys2588 that's assuming the fighter actually won every other round... and that example doesnt even apply to this because fury got dropped in 2 separate rounds and rounds 1-5 had to little to no action in from fury outside of him not getting rocked... so nah he didnt school anybody and got touched on several occasions throughout the fight
Yeah the fight wasnt close... cuz Wilder won
Danny Gibson you don’t win a boxing match based on knockdowns.. unless it’s a KO it’s always scored in how many rounds are won. Give those 2 rounds to Wilder because of the knockdowns and maybe another and it’s still 9-3 Fury.
I wanted to see his ear
No
Ask Him to Empty His Pockets!
Then......Brace Yourself!!
What ear?
Lol
U really that dumb or ..
It's a 10count not a 10sec
He got up before 10 seconds Joe is wrong.
Check boxrec for the rules. It’s 10 seconds, not a 10 count.
@@robiulahmed why does it matter , he got up and beat him down for the rest of the round.
Arm head your wrong its a 10 count not 10 seconds i doubt you will ever see an exact 10 second count because that not the rules the refs are given more than an exact 10 count because they need this time to make a decision this is literally a fact you cant argue the rules its why its called a 10 " count " not a 10 second count its the refs discretion to make the decision and he was right because he got up and won the rest of the round.
Evender's high
Holyfield has clearly been hit one too many times in the head.
Thats what happens when your a boxer
He's quite coherent for a man who's shipped so much punishment at the top level. Just remember the amount of all out wars he was in.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi truth... fucking warrior of note..
He's not that bad ffs, he's old too
It doesn't seem like any fighter escapes it.
Top 3 mysteries of heavyweight division:
- How Fury got up from that knockdown
- What happened to Jousha before Ruiz fight
- Why right headphone of Evander didnt fall down
lol
Fury won almost each round and even the round he got knocked down he came back and won. Every boxing analyst had Fury winning the fight. How the judges had it a draw is a joke and Wilder got a gift decision
Shawn Erickstad posing to the crowd doesn’t win u the fight! Go back n watch without commentary fury wasn’t even barely doin anything during his so called dominant rounds! N the ref should have stopped it the minute he was knocked out n on his back it should’ve been waived off!
@@Dingoplexor he got up and finished the round strong. Your lucky they handed wilder a draw cause 98 percent of all the pro boxers and greats scored fury the win by 2 rounds even after the two knock downs. Good thing fury was listening the the ref counting so he got up in time . fury has no power and only Holyfield and 1 or 2 other pros out of hundreds actually think wilder won . truth. Good day to you
Shawn Erickstad because it’s boxing it’s always corrupt,like ref saved him from Ortiz,plus way managed to be around 10 years and duck every good fighter going specially big punchers,and way had that belt so long only fought two good opponents,and how does fury 3 years laying on couch binge eating and drinking and taking coke can come back and get a shot at the title ahead off all other fighters ??,because wilder cherry picked him thinking he’s finished and got schooled,
It was a really exciting fight, Fury should have won on points but he was also lucky that the ref didn't wave the fight off as he lost consciousness after second knockdown, bring on the re-match!
Fury got knock down Twice so how did he win? Wilder knock Tyson fury the fuck out
Why does Joe keep saying it was over 10 seconds? There's tons of videos on CZcams proving it was under 10 seconds. They even have exact milliseconds on the clock as well. He hit the canvas at 2:21 of the 12th and was up on his feet at 2:12. That is under 10 seconds much less a 10 count.
Uh... 🤔
@@irishmancheckinin6540 the clock counts down man. Not up. That is 9 seconds
period
Druggies ain't very smart tbh
10 seconds or not it's the referees count that matters, Wilder talking about he won just to be able to advocate another fight , deep down inside he knows he lost. He is just trying to protect his career and ego.
The Referee actually said that From his back on the canvass, Fury looked him in the eye, and that's why he didn't stop the fight. He says that Fury clearly wasn't hurt or disoriented, based on eye contact, so he continued the count.
Evander "I was on juice when I fought Mike that's why my traps looked so big!" holyfield.
Lee haney was his personal trainer. Of course he was on the gas.
yeah,bcs no other sportsman besides him was ever juiced!?
Holyfield saying "any other country", "why we giving advantages", did you forget Fury got robbed? As did Lewis when he beat you.
Yeah Lewis got robbed so bad but his point is that if it's a close fight it usually goes to the local fighter eg. Parker v Ruiz lol
@@insignificant2you are you kidding? He fought a good fight but he wasn't even in the same zip code of being considered to have won that fight. He did a good job to not get knocked out and that's about all.
HOLYFIELD: they should have stopped the fight. Usually the fight would have been stopped.
ROGAN: Well thank god he didn't
HOLYFIELD: Well I don't know about that
ROGAN: but Tyson won the rest of the round
HOLYFIELD:........ errrrr yeah he did
END OF DISCUSSION!!!
No. What if tyson got up and got killed because of a negligent ref? Im glad the fight wasnt stopped but i also understand the point holyfield is making
@@mahadism7455 it's a mute point, because a boxer can finish a fight on their feet, win and then have a brain haemorrhage in the dressing room. It's a straw man argument. The ref wasn't negligent clearly. He is just sticking up for his countryman which is fair enough, I ain't go no problem with that, but he talking nonsense.
@@mahadism7455 but after fury got up he didn't just let him fight he made him walk up and down the ring to make sure he was good on his feet. Excellent refereeing imo
@@yomo1690 how is that a strawman argument? lol your exemple was horrible finnishing a fight on your feet and winning onlh to have a brain hemmorage later on has nithig to do with a negligent (most likely) BUT getting flattened out for 6 seconds only to get uo and get blasted again AND THEN die now thats because of a negligent ref. Two very very different exemples.
@@stevendonovan7564 dont get me wrong fury won that fight. Btwith the deaths of two boxers being highlighted just a few months ago i think its important to take fighter safety into account. For exemple if a guy falls down flat like fury did in Mma the fight would've been stopped before any ground and pound could be administered.
not one thing said about Tyson's skill..
or how deyonte couldn't hit a thing..
Aaron Helliadis
Couldn't hit anything? He's knocked out all of his opponents including tyson fury.
get a ref that knows how to count, and it would've been another win
Archduke Franz Ferdinand I love Wilder also. It was a long count but it wasn’t blatant. Draw was the right call. Fury was the better boxer in most of the fight but he should have been ko’d
lakoncers13 I had fury winnin before the second knockdown and had it A win by KO except they long counted. So the Draw was cool rematch should’ve been right away but Fury ran off with a moral victory fighting absolute no names
Archduke Franz Ferdinand boxing is more than just a knockout, fury schooled him
Furry made Wilder miss all night, everytime wilder missed Furry would counterpunch at will, yes wilder caught him in the 12 but Furry got up and smacked him around for the rest of the round, Furry was literally putting his hands behind his back and laughing at wilder because it was so easy to outbox him, Furry completely exposed what most boxing fans already knew. Biggest robbery I've ever seen.
Holyfields just sticking up for Alabama boy. At the end of the day Tyson was up in 10 and was robbed of the fight
Youpissme Off he was on the floor 2x...who whooped who?
asldfkadj 849 it’s a boxing match, doesn’t matter if you get knocked down twice if you win every other round
@@jaketurnbull23 Wilder won rnds 13579and 12. Fury won 246 10 and 11. They put mayweather on the mic. They gave Fury points for showboating. Jack Reece broke protocol and let an unconscious fighter continue. Wilder had the deck pretty well stacked against him and STILL kept his "ACTUAL TITLE" and has defended 9 times now.
@@asldfkadj8493 doesnt mean shit. Fat L there bro
@@keepthechange2811 Wilder won 2 10-8 rounds... Another L
I understand what he’s saying but a ref would’ve stopped the fight if Tyson got up and wasn’t defending himself, but instead Tyson beat wilder for the rest of the round
Sounds like you don’t understand what he’s saying at all.
What he’s trying to say is that in most boxing matches when you got knocked down especially in a later round and you look to be out cold the way fury was. Refs don’t even bother with the 10 count, they simply call the fight right there and then.
He does have a point, refs do tend to do that and protect the fighter in those cases.
So sad seeing the effects of the wars evander has been in... he sounds like he’s 70.
@RJ mi exactly
jnixa1010 if anything he’s doing pretty well 🤷♂️
i hope u just joking about it because in 3-4 years hes gonna be 70
ahmad rusydi false. He is not almost 70. Stop lying
Dude, he's been talking like that for decades. It's nothing new. You should check out that old Madtv skit about Holyfield on QVC "everyone know that Tyson got the toe jam, that's why he bite."
I just rewatched the Wilder-Fury knockdown with a stopwatch in my hand and I can tell you it was 10 seconds exactly.
10 count not 10 seconds the difference is boxing refs never count like humans so a ref count is really not a second it's like ooonnnnneeee small pause twwwwwwoooooo. He got up and fought and won the round.
omar awesat Why have you got a stop watch out? Seconds don't have anything to do with a ten count. The ref counts at his own pace.
Omar is proving a point that fury was up in ten actual seconds from the time he hit the canvad
Lol no it wasnt and a 10 count isnt 10 second
Nooow holyfield forgetting they gave wilder 16 seconds when he came out at the beginning of the round against ortiz cuz his legs was wabbling.
Holyfield bias af.
He would Knock u out
I put a stopwatch on it and Fury got up at exactly 10 seconds
I agree he biased but i also agree he would ko any regular guy lol
@@_itzriazpvp9869 he would knock Ur block off
We wuz kangs mentality
Damn sour grapes here..like he’s completely discrediting Tyson fury
Brent Quinn it’s probably because joes changing his opinion on the guest if get me
Probably because that’s his honest opinion 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏽♂️
He’s a racist
Ncr you can be racist against “your own kind” look up the definition of racist. Look at white liberals they are the perfect example.
@@trollnation7164 Go to Europe LOL
Luis "we don't know how old he is because he's from Cuba" Ortiz
Joe "We don't know how old he is because he's from Cuba" Rogan
Hey, Give Ortiz credit he is 85 years old about to fight for the belt
Alex Mallinson 😂😭😭
He look 50
😂 CUBIAN PEOPLE ALWAYS look young??
The ref gave Tyson a chance coz he won nearly every round.
Bullshit
He says he saw some life in him, experience from his fire-fighting days working close to people who are unconscious
Never forget the reff saved wilder in that fight giving him extra recovery time
They don't talk about that though
@aaron pryor look at wilders face again hes like damn i put all my power and he didn't get knocked out be quiet your black power ranger wannabe lost
Joe “preposterous power” Rogan
Fps 3582 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Y'all want a great white hope so bad you don't mind lying to get one and the sad part about it you can feel proud over it SMH
Chris Hall whaaaaat da fk are you on ? If somebody can explain What you just wrote and What does it have to do with laughing emojis and Thats cuz What @Fps 3582 said was funny . If somebody can explain What you just wrote has to do with anything here Ill pay now !!! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
He seems biased for wilder!
Chris Eubank voice "preposterous power" XD
Now in Mike tyson's voice
The count was pretty close to 10 seconds and he was definitely standing up at 10 seconds. What’s the rule if the boxer is up at 10 seconds then answers he is fine
What bothers holyfield is fury is white
learn to count joe it was 9 seconds
The 10 count only starts when fighter is in neutral corner.
You sure thats the rule?
Yes. That's the rule.
Not only. Boxing rules require the timekeeper, after a knockdown, to immediately begin calling off the seconds, indicating the count with a motion of his arm. At least in the pros from what we can see from the 12 Rd fury/wilder knockdown from a random example.
Actually it doesn't, the ringside starts the count when he goes down. The ref picks it up once he has him in the neutral. That's why he starts the count at 4 rather than 1.
@@MajinBLJ This is correct.
Keep bringing these boxing/mma legends on the show. Awesome.
It hurts me to hear him talk, now.
I was such a Holyfield fan. He so was exciting to watch. It was like he had a reserve tank he could tap at the perfect time.
USA has some If not the most currupt boxing on this earth!
Oh yeah... With Dillian Whyte failing a drug test and still Fighting... Fury failing a post fight test and keeping his belts... And let's not forget the rabbit punching contest with Nigel Benn and G-MAN. Shut up fool
Winning Results Fitness and Nutrition haha fury was stripped of his belts so shows what ya know 👍🏻
It’s well known the us judges pick who they prefer whether they won or not. They had Ortiz losing to wilder yet every true boxing fan had Ortiz ahead. They stopped Ruiz fight early to boost the fan base of the Mexicans for Ruiz. Fury won against Wilder and gave it to him because surprise surprise it’s in his homeland. Says it all when the boxing greats and commentators all said fury won. Anywhere else Wilder would’ve lost.
Katie Taylor, Josh Warrington, Josh Kelly all got robbed decisions recently in the UK.. they are more corrupt with the behind the scenes over there.. you got UK boxers saying UKAD never tested them in a 13 year career.. then look at the Olympics in 2012, they handed the gold to Joshua and who knows what other bullshit they pulled.. every Matchroom card is mired in controversy and terrible judging in addition to incompetent refereeing
@@MrErnieHanks don't forget about Gabe Rosado getting robbed in the UK too. Also, Anderson Silva getting robbed by Bisping in the UFC, you can't spell flUKe without the U.K.
CTE is hitting hard on boxers. U can see it by how he talks
@H Eck nah thats brain damage
Southern in 2019 is brain damage
OH, Hi Matt southern girls are beautiful though
@H Eck aint no body talking about the accent
@@samdeal6504 well my family lives in texas so i deal with brain damage all the time.
Evander doesn't sound good. The comeback during his 40s was a big mistake from the beggining.
Gabrieljorama CTE does that
It called being country that slur is common
This comment is from someone who has CTE apparently “beggining”.
Hes just from Alabama
Most boxers don't sound well at the end of their careers that's why you have to get Mayweather a lot more credit than most people give him!
I agree there should be a clock to avoid situations like this but Tyson has mad heart
I agree as well.
Holyfield biased with Beyoncé, Lennox biased against AJ. I dont get it anymore.
Mike Tyson says the truth better than these two.
AJ's amazing. Everyone's bashing him like he didn't have a streak of KO's behind him. Even Ali lost!
cloudtx True but it’s not the fact that he lost, it’s how he lost.
I don’t like to put the “quitter” label on people but it looked like he quit.
@@sanantoballa4834 I disagree completely. I saw the fight, AJ got up 4-5 times. You don't get up that many times from such heavy punches if you're giving up.
In my opinion, he simply went in with the wrong strategy and instead of adapting to Ruiz he kept trying the same thing over and over, trying to win HIS way instead of the right way. He was wrong and lost because of it but he's no quitter.
cloudtx The last time he got dropped, he walked to his corner, didn’t take his arms off the ropes and never walked towards the ref when he was asked if he was ready to box...
So he was either dazed and couldn’t continue or simply didn’t want to step back in and fight.
@@sanantoballa4834 You're correct. I believe he was dazed. The ref made the right call in stopping the fight. I still disagree with calling him a quitter though. He didn't give up, he simply made mistakes and his state didn't let him continue fighting.
Evander “I said nah” Holyfield
Stipe will sound just like Evander in about 15 years
Stipe will sound like this after lunch
Ebdadybudebadandedeanbuaasaybauandyassasabeda
Nah. Give him till next week.
Evander sound better than stipe tho😂
I love wilder, but when Ortiz rocked him, the next round the doctor wanted to check him. Wasn’t that extra time 🤔
Doctor saved him big time, Ortiz was rocked wayyy harder and the fight was not stalled for him. Corrupt sport man.
Yeah it was apparently to inspect for a cut that wasn't there of course. It was plain corruption. Wilder is a fabricated fighter. Great puncher, but god awful boxer.
Mike Tyson said he only bit his ear because Evander kept head butting him and it made him very angry
Mike did a recent interview where he came clean and said he bit him because he was frustrated
Michael Boyers mike knew he couldn’t beat Holyfield and looked for a way out.
@@chrisw5150 Frustrsted because Evander kept headbutting him.
@@richc.1104 Thats not what he said i dont remember exactly which interview it was but i watched it recently and he never mentioned headbutts, and im not saying he never said that a long time ago
Those in the know understand it’s the atlanta boxing 1-2-3: left jab, right cross, head butt. Vernon Forrest and Evander does the same
Wilder: throws 2 hard hitting punches
Fury: (takes direct hit)
Fury: (gets up after 5 seconds)
Wilder: NANI!?!?
Evander Holyfield clearly talking shit about Tyson Fury, Tyson won and wasn't shown any favours at all.
Holyfield should shut up when wilder was rocked after the rounds wasn’t he given more seconds to recover by telling him to go see the medic and move to the side
Bittch tell him shut up to his face
@@donp8638 Evander is punch drunk!!
Seconds... he ain’t beating Wildr. Just like he didn’t the 1sr time
@@donjulio457 But he did
Dude still looks good. Also seems like he got out at the right time. Good for him
James,"Lights Out" Toney.
@Jimbo Jones I would say He lives on the boarder. I heard Him speaking a few years ago and He sounded a little worse, so maybe His brain has kind of healed up a little. But He does sound a lot like Ali sounded before He got real bad.
@Jimbo Jones Unfortunately, CTE is a progressive disease, he will get worse as he gets older.
20years ago Evander sounded the same. Like a simpleton. Look at his post fight interviews from the 90s.
Black don't crack
He was always my favorite as a kid .
Adam Harrison you were always my favorite. I enjoyed watching you grow honey buns. Mmmmmmmmm lemme see thatt pooper
@@MinoritiesRlazy ahhhhhh😂😂😂 lol
Holyfield is a true warrior. He just kept coming and never lost heart.
@white dom lololololol
Jonny Bravo look like Colby Covington 😂
you could have had a time clock all u wanted in that fight and you'd find he still got up before 10.
Betcha Holyfield lost some dough on that fight... lol.
"Underneath all that fat, there's an incredible athlete" lmao
Fat?? U see those traps, he is in shape with a little meat. Lets see how you look when ur 50
Joe rogan said Ruiz was fat... nobody said joe was fat lol
Ya I laughed
@@vperkv6554 He was talking about Andy Ruiz(29 or 30 yrs. old), not Holyfield.
@@richc.1104 oh ok, cause the comment didnt make sense to me at all. 👍
Evander “That’s what i’m saying” Holyfield
Holyfield talks like he’s straight outta the boondocks 😂
Lmfaooo
He talks like he’s straight outta brain cells
People hate Floyd. He is boring for a reason and it’s to not be brain dead. Never said he mastered reading
That's because he is ...lol
That's how some older black guys from GA talk.
Not trolling, some really talk like that. Mostly alcoholics & old boxers! lol
"You know what bothers me" is Joe Rogan knows better and still says shit like this.
They did have a timer and it was nine seconds
I love you guys, Joe and Evander are the real deal.
Joe: have you tried psychedelics Evander? Because maybe you should.
damn Aries Spears' impression of this guy is pretty accurate. lol
The internet ruined hearing these guys speak. I’m now fully aware why Holyfield and i other legends have that slur and jumble of words.sad
One sec, why? Ruin it for me too
You ruined your own comment what the he’ll you talking about? Evander is country
My god kid. The man has taken repeated blows to the head for close to thirty years. Have some respect
The internet had to teach you that huh ? Smart guy
His memory is better than mine and I'm 20 yrs younger
When Tyson was down he kept blinking at the ref to let him know that he could continue
The digital clock on the graphic card was accurate with the ref’s count
Holyfield just doesn’t like anyone named Tyson lol understandably.
Let me shorten it up for you.
Evander doesn’t want to talk about Fury at all.🤷🏼♂️
Tyson Fury should be more worried about Braun Strowman and getting those hands.
I bet his ear tasted like maple with a dash of mace.
Louie Anderson is an incredible athlete!
Legend
I don't think holyfield was interested when joe mentioned Ortiz being 50
Give him whatever age u want but wilder ,fury,ruiz and joshua will.be all out before they are 38. I respect ortiz
Evander’s speech is back. He looks and sounds great. Good on you champ
“The Real Deal”
30 seconds thats some brain damage right there LOL Tyson won the fight get over it
It was a draw get over it lol
I'm from Atlanta and I always thought that evander was from Atlanta to? I know he had a house here that's for sure but also thought he grew up in Atlanta you learn something new folks everyday... Every single day
Evander is nearly as old as Luis Ortiz man.
😂