Agreed, ive heard great players play that solo, but none have the magic. The tone?, the slap bass in the background? The clean picking? Not sure what makes it work.
I met his replacement in 2006, Franny Beecher and saw The Original Comets. Franny is one of my fave guitarist and it was great seeing him and The Comets play live. Remember in the early days of R&R the players were often times older than those in later decades that got started. Their influences were country, jazz, big band and R&B but there was mo rock when they were growing up so they created the blueprint of R&R that would influence the generations in later decades. Danny Cedrone was a jazzer as was Franny Beecher. Franny was the same age as Cedrone, actually one year younger. Franny in fact played guitar for Buddy Greco and Benny Goodman before The Comets. His big guitar hero was Charlie Christian and you hear it in the music.
The Comets were late in getting to the session for RATC. The ferry boat to Chester, PA had gotten stuck on a sand bar. By the time they made it to NYC they only had three hours left in the session. Milt Gabler, the producer, spent 2 and a half hours on "13 Women". When they were done Milt told Bill he had 1/2 hour to come up with a B-side. Bill wanted to do RATC which he had promised to record for James Meyer who got them on Decca. Danny was an Esquire Boy, never a Comet. Bill told him to use the "Rock This Joint" solo again. Two takes and they had the record that changed history. Danny had also collected nickels from the Chester juke joints for the Mob. He was suspected of skimming some of the money for himself. So he ended up getting pushed down a flight of stairs. Bill Haley never played "13 Women" again. He resented that Milt had made him spend so much time on that one tune.
@@westcoastramble I live a couple miles from Melody Manor which was Bill's Graceland. Knew various characters in the Haley story. John Kay replaced Franny Beecher when he was only 20. My guitar teacher and friend who just passed away last year.
@@westcoastramble I agree. But had he lived and stayed with the Comets i'm sure his unique guitar solos would have eventually been more widely recognized and appreciated throughout the world of guitar and rock and roll music lovers alike..........
I highly doubt a bass player would convince a seasoned studio guitar player what to play. It was just Cedrone and Hailey working it out in Hailey’s home. Everyone wants to take credit-after Cedrone passed away.
@@jerryleeelvisberryrichard6247 You are very correct in reporting that Marshall Lytle suggested to Danny Cedrone that he play the same solo from 'Rock This Joint' on 'Rock Around the Clock' - Lytle wasn't just a bass player but he was also a seasoned guitarist in his own right even though he was younger than Haley and Cedrone. Sure, there was an informal jam session rehearsal the night before the session where Bill and Danny ran through the tunes, they were to record but discussions continued in the studio the next day and Lytle offered up his two cents to Danny and Bill agreed it would expedite the session to just play the same basic guitar solo on 'Rock Around the Clock'. It was really a no-brainer.
Yea it makes the song, along with that slap bass. Ive heard later live versions with electric bass and other guitar players and it doesnt have that rhythm.
It’s Danny Gatton on guitar, playing the song Black Slacks ( By the Sparkletones) Robert Gordon is singing. Here’s the link. The whole solo is dynamite! czcams.com/video/lB_ZXEviNnE/video.htmlsi=yoM_XIk0HkGKB9k3 czcams.com/video/lB_ZXEviNnE/video.htmlsi=yoM_XIk0HkGKB9k3
@@westcoastramble Ok, I couldn’t figure out who could be that agressive guitar. Curiously I got The Humbler, The Real Humbler and Capitol Attack but I must relisten to them right now. Many thanks.
While on a train to do a gig it was approaching its stop, Bill Haley noticed the station was filled with people cheering. He remarked to a bandmate (or his manager) “We had to do a gig the day some famous person was making an appearance.” Then he found out the fans were waiting for him. Definitely NOT a pretentious rock star. Humility…
I’m a bass player and I’m amazed how many guitar players don’t know about Danny Cedrone. SMH. “ Me: “What do you think of Danny Cedrone, Jimmy Bryant and Roy Lanham?” Guitar player: “Uh, not familiar with them.” Me: “Oh my”
Nobody has ever come close to playing it better.... probably one of the greatest Guitar solos of all time
Agreed, ive heard great players play that solo, but none have the magic. The tone?, the slap bass in the background? The clean picking? Not sure what makes it work.
@@westcoastramble i guess somethings just can't be replicated to sound any better... one of life's mysteries lol
Jeff Beck played it perfectly.
Feel free to take "probably" out of that sentence. 😉
@@patrickcasey357ah, close, but not quite... czcams.com/video/VTJ7eU1_i9Q/video.htmlsi=nJzvKEmUmgJkepU9
That song kicked off the rock and roll era.
I met his replacement in 2006, Franny Beecher and saw The Original Comets. Franny is one of my fave guitarist and it was great seeing him and The Comets play live.
Remember in the early days of R&R the players were often times older than those in later decades that got started. Their influences were country, jazz, big band and R&B but there was mo rock when they were growing up so they created the blueprint of R&R that would influence the generations in later decades.
Danny Cedrone was a jazzer as was Franny Beecher. Franny was the same age as Cedrone, actually one year younger. Franny in fact played guitar for Buddy Greco and Benny Goodman before The Comets. His big guitar hero was Charlie Christian and you hear it in the music.
Charlie Christian, for sure, Yea your right. His guitar tone and phrasing is very similar.
The Comets were late in getting to the session for RATC. The ferry boat to Chester, PA had gotten stuck on a sand bar. By the time they made it to NYC they only had three hours left in the session. Milt Gabler, the producer, spent 2 and a half hours on "13 Women". When they were done Milt told Bill he had 1/2 hour to come up with a B-side. Bill wanted to do RATC which he had promised to record for James Meyer who got them on Decca. Danny was an Esquire Boy, never a Comet. Bill told him to use the "Rock This Joint" solo again. Two takes and they had the record that changed history. Danny had also collected nickels from the Chester juke joints for the Mob. He was suspected of skimming some of the money for himself. So he ended up getting pushed down a flight of stairs. Bill Haley never played "13 Women" again. He resented that Milt had made him spend so much time on that one tune.
Great info. Thx. Never heard the Mob connection.
@@westcoastramble I live a couple miles from Melody Manor which was Bill's Graceland. Knew various characters in the Haley story. John Kay replaced Franny Beecher when he was only 20. My guitar teacher and friend who just passed away last year.
@@harvey1954 you need to document those stories!
@@westcoastramble That's why I put them up on line here. I met most of the players except for Bill, ironically.
@@harvey1954 thank you
Great video
Danny was probably one of the greatest guitars player in the history of Rock and Roll.
I agree, im not sure if he realized he was playing "rock and roll" at the time, or if he thought about where rock and roll would evolve to.
@@westcoastramble I agree. But had he lived and stayed with the Comets i'm sure his unique guitar solos would have eventually been more widely recognized and appreciated throughout the world of guitar and rock and roll music lovers alike..........
I just taught that solo to a 12 year old guitar student. Danny is still making new fans.
That 12 year old kid must be good if he can pull off that solo. I hope he digs deep into early jazz/rock
@@westcoastramble well, it’ll be some time before he can pull it off but he’s working on it!
Great video.
Great stuff, thanks for the heads up on RnR' s kick off story.
This for watching! We’ve got more stories to tell.
I beleive he died soon after he recorded it on Rock around the Clock.Fell down some stairs I believe
Bassist Marshall Lytle claimed he suggested the Rock This Joint solo. Everyone at that recording session has now passed.
Dig it, thx for the info. Thats why we like doing these videos, we can get new info to fill in the gaps. Thx
I highly doubt a bass player would convince a seasoned studio guitar player what to play. It was just Cedrone and Hailey working it out in Hailey’s home. Everyone wants to take credit-after Cedrone passed away.
I said he claimed. Think, say and do whatever you want.
@@jerryleeelvisberryrichard6247 You are very correct in reporting that Marshall Lytle suggested to Danny Cedrone that he play the same solo from 'Rock This Joint' on 'Rock Around the Clock' - Lytle wasn't just a bass player but he was also a seasoned guitarist in his own right even though he was younger than Haley and Cedrone. Sure, there was an informal jam session rehearsal the night before the session where Bill and Danny ran through the tunes, they were to record but discussions continued in the studio the next day and Lytle offered up his two cents to Danny and Bill agreed it would expedite the session to just play the same basic guitar solo on 'Rock Around the Clock'. It was really a no-brainer.
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Thats all i remember..that solo ....from the song
Yea it makes the song, along with that slap bass. Ive heard later live versions with electric bass and other guitar players and it doesnt have that rhythm.
Danny Cedrone must not be forgotten. Still so many people know Bill Haley. But how about Danny?
Agreed! I would have loved to hear what kinds of guitar solos he could had come up with on other Haley songs.
May I ask who’s playin the solo on 3:02 and who’s starting to sing on 3:22? Many thanks
It’s Danny Gatton on guitar, playing the song Black Slacks ( By the Sparkletones) Robert Gordon is singing.
Here’s the link. The whole solo is dynamite!
czcams.com/video/lB_ZXEviNnE/video.htmlsi=yoM_XIk0HkGKB9k3 czcams.com/video/lB_ZXEviNnE/video.htmlsi=yoM_XIk0HkGKB9k3
@@westcoastramble Ok, I couldn’t figure out who could be that agressive guitar. Curiously I got The Humbler, The Real Humbler and Capitol Attack but I must relisten to them right now.
Many thanks.
While on a train to do a gig it was approaching its stop, Bill Haley noticed the station was filled with people cheering. He remarked to a bandmate (or his manager) “We had to do a gig the day some famous person was making an appearance.” Then he found out the fans were waiting for him. Definitely NOT a pretentious rock star. Humility…
Did not hear that story before, that's great!
I’m a bass player and I’m amazed how many guitar players don’t know about Danny Cedrone. SMH. “
Me: “What do you think of Danny Cedrone, Jimmy Bryant and Roy
Lanham?”
Guitar player: “Uh, not familiar with them.”
Me: “Oh my”
While getting dinner for the family he fell down a staircase and died in NYC.
$21 in 1954 is about $240 today.
Just think of how much scratch his family would have made off of every record sold over the years if he got residuals.