Brilliant Stars Weighed Results - Why/How Weighing Works EXPLAINED BY MATH
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Brilliant Stars is the 9th expansion in Sword and Shield era. In my previous video, we concluded that light packs contain black bordered code cards and contain a holo or better in the rare spot. Trainer Gallery is a subset found in the reverse holo spot and therefore cannot be accurately found. In this video, we reverse engineer the pack weights to explain why this works and what can be done by the Pokemon Company International to fix the weighing problem.
Weighed Box opening:
• Weighing Brilliant Sta...
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0:00 Intro
0:26 Card Types
6:02 Reverse Engineer
11:07 Excel Model
15:45 Conclusion
Disclaimer - my box weights might different from yours.
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Thanks for taking the effort to do this! I used your excel model to reference for my own openings. Cheers !
Very informative video. Thank you for breaking down/analyzing this!
That is actually so cool to see you break this down. In one sense im sad that they are weighable, but in another sense it's neat to know the way to determine which ones have certain cards!
Definitely subscribing.
Raising awareness is just step 1 of fixing the issue!
Nice data. Personally I think this is a good thing as long as the knowledge gets spread around about them being weighable. If they are weighable, people will not buy singles from online retailers, which they shouldn’t. It gives incentives to purchase sealed product(which is what the Pokémon company wants) which will give the Pokémon company incentive to print more, and sets being inflated is also a good thing because singles prices are usually better, of course alternative arts will always be high because of rarity and art work, but people who want to open packs to obtain a master set are ludicrous or have enough money to warrant the grind. One booster box and buying singles is way more cost effective than spending $4,000 on booster boxes. Hell, I’ve seen master sets of battle styles for $500-$800! If you’re trying to make money than buy a master set within the first year of release and hold it for 5-10 years, and you’ll double to quadruple your investment while enjoying owning the cards for that time.
Appreciate the info!
I opened two booster boxes yesterday. They are absolutely weighable! The weight range for determining the pulls was slightly different for each box, but I was able to accurately predict which packs had pulls. The heaviest packs (0.10 grams heavier than the non-pull packs contained the trainer gallery cards. There were two packs in each of the booster boxes that met this criteria. We opened all of the packs that we predicted were white code cards and as they were in fact white codes. Thanks so much for your analysis and information. Much appreciated. I have two more boxes to open today and I will be weighing all of them.
did you open anything good?
Yes, we did!! 14 pulls out of me box, which included 5 TG, 5 V’s, 2 full arts, and 2 secret rares!!
What were the white code weight range?
Very underrated channel! 🔥question🔥: I was wondering what the general consensus is around the Pokémon center elite trainer boxes. I want to buy 4 from the site for 50$ each before they run out, however I am wondering if these “special” kinda of ETB’s (specifically brilliant stars as of now) are at a greater,lesser or any risk of being reprinted? I believe in the set and will keep them sealed as they outperform regular ETB’s almost always, just trying not to fomo but also not tryna miss out lol
If you track ETB since inception, they've outperformed booster boxes in percentage gain. If you're looking to invest, PC ETB is the better one of the two ETBs. Brill stars will always be a good set from a historical perspective bc any set with Charizard always outperformed those that didnt
I only buy sealed booster boxes for my own enjoyment, During Chilling Reign I was weighing and opening weighed stacks to see difference, Now I just grab 1 or 3 random packs from the Box a day haha and just let randomness get me. But If I were buying loose packs I would be robbed of the joy of hits, Great video and Agree all should know to be warry of single pack sellers on live streams and TCG player. Very easy to set aside duds from hits in the era =(
Love this! Thanks for the math breakdown!
come check out the one I did for sleeved boosters as well
@@ctrlaltQQ I will! I took your math and have been seeing how it plays out. Seems like it works at CVS but not Target or GameStop. They have code cards that weigh 1.4 g vs the 1.2 and 1.6 g. Would love to hear your thoughts on that as well!
@@pokescientist interesting, the sleeved boosters I got from gamestop had 1.39 vs 1.26 so it was unweighable. there seems to be two printing facilities, so we'll never know the source. I didnt even know CVS sells cards
@@ctrlaltQQ Yeah I’ve been using your videos and others to better understand this system so thank you, very interesting. Also CVS has them in the back with the rest of the toys. (Fun fact you can use their 40% off coupons on them!)
Ones again a great analysis! I went ahead and followed you on both CZcams and Twitch to not miss out on any upcoming video. When you mentioned the Sun & Moon block era, is that with EVERY set that the code card differential is 0.15g? Meaning that you can not crack open and accurately weigh any Sun & Moon product out there? And how about XY sets and its products?
Great question. Green code cards from what I've tested in the sun and moon block are 1.40g vs white which are 1.25g. The difference is to compensate the weight differential between a holo vs nonholio. For XY era, every set up to ancient origins only had 1 type of code card, so they are weighable. Check out my ancient origins heavy opening video. After Ancient origins came Breakpoint, which introduced green and white codes and continued until Vivid Voltage...making those sets unweighable.
@@ctrlaltQQ As soon as I went in to your Twitch profile I went straight to that one video. So awesome that you managed to pull 2 of the fullart Lugia! Real poggers haha! But so, if I were to try and weigh a weighable set, do I always have to seperately weigh each opened product so that the code card differential adds up to 0.2g or higher? I suppose the best product to get if you have the money for it should be a sealed booster box right? Thank you for answering my questions! 🙏
@@grubix2224 Hey glad you enjoyed that video! To answer your question... for anything older than ancient origins, the answer is the heavier the pack, the more likely it has a hit. There is no offset from the code cards, so heavy = better. From chilling reign/ and onwards, only certain products are weighable and the only real consistent way to figure out if your box is weighable is to compare the code card differential. This is the main reason why my fusion strike box was unweighable, because the code diff was 0.15. Short answer is this, you need to have the packs sourced from the same place. A box guarantees that all 36 packs came from the same factory, so there is consistency. This is also why sealed booster boxes have such a high premium, because it's untampered. Trust me, I only got into this hobby a year and a half ago so I didnt know anything until I started to dig deep. Glad I can share the knowledge.
@@ctrlaltQQ Great answers, thank you! I will make sure to follow up on more of your Pokémon clips and content in the future! Until then my friend! :)
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Hello. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I watched the whole thing but am still slightly confused as I have learning difficulty. Could you please in layman terms tell me what weight ranges are desirable for hits and which are not? Thank you very much
It's all relative. You need to do the same thing I did in my other video: separate the diff weight ranges and open 1 from each stack. That is the most reliable because each box can have diff production lines; diff code cards, diff wrapper weights, etc etc.
@@ctrlaltQQ ahh ok thank you I understand now! Do you have access to a copy of your excellent spreadsheet please so I can use you're fomulas and just edit the values please?
I dont have it shared publically, but I recommend building it yourself. your results may vary, depending on the box
I did build one for Fusion Strike, which can be found in my other video. Theres a google drive link there
What would you class as a light pack weight upto roughly and above 22.65 would be classed as a heavy pack ? Just curious the difference I may buy some pack upto the light pack limit and some heavy pack from the heavy limit and above to maybe test a theory and make a video thank you
it's hard to say. there's multiple print runs and diff factories. you really dont know until you open them. the sleeve ones are diff from booster boxes. you need to open before you know. but if they're all from the same source, just compare the heaviest vs lightest pack. if theres a .40G variance, then follow my model.
@@ctrlaltQQ I was also curious say a heavy pack has a trainer gallery could it possibly have a v or vstar card to? I’ve seen a person with the same variants as your pull a trainer gallery and charizard alt art out a 22.71 pack and it had a black code card
@@pokemoncraze4215 black code cards will fall in the midrange if it has a trainer gallery card, basically unweighable.
Very interesting analysis! I got some sleeved boosters coming in later today, wonder if they play a role on this too. I’ll weight each sleeve and let you know if interested
Always welcome information if you have! Weigh the sleeves and the code cards please
How did it go?
What was your sample size for this? What was the weight differential for each of the card types?
It was for a booster box. Check my other video. Due to various reprints, the only consistency you can find is with a box all 36 packs can be relative to each other
@@ctrlaltQQ Interesting, do you think this was enough? Also, what was the avg/range for commons/uncommons? If they ranged 0.01 to 0.03, that'd be enough to affect column F. The only "sure" thing from the testing seems to be which one contains white vs black code card since it's so significant in weight?
I like the way you think. Would be cool to follow up with a live trial of opening packs based on your breakdown
There was a video before this one that led to this video. You can see how I opened it based on weight
From the UK this interested me so went to corner shop and Weighed and bought 5 packs all different weights, they range completely different to yours but that could be cheaper weighing scales on my end.
Here are the current results heaviest to lightest
22.94
- White code card
- TG Zekrom Yellow border
- Non Holo rare
22.87
- White code card
- Non Holo rare
- Reverse Holo
22.83
- White Code Card
- RS Urshifu V TG
- Non Holo Rare
22.72
- White code card
- Non Holo rare
- Reverse Holo
22.64
- Black Code card
- Holo
- Reverse Holo
Going to continue to track weights of each pack and pull
Check the weight differentials. seems like yours has a variance of .30g, which is significant and means its weighable. light packs will give you black code card. the heaviest of the bunch will give you what I call "TG smooth" which is basically yellow border nontextured TG
@@ctrlaltQQ only very slim amount of packs weighed ofcourse but from early indications it definitely looks that way
I will continue to weigh and keep it updated
@@ctrlaltQQ another 6 packs weighed went with a few lower end weighted here are the results
22.97
white code card
Zekrom Trainer Gallery (smooth)
Non Holo rare
22.90
White code card
Non Holo rare
reverse Holo rare
22.60
black code card
Bibarel Holo
Eevee Trainer Gallery (Smooth)
22.57
black code card
dusknoir Holo
Reverse Holo
22.55
black code card
Kingler V
reverse Holo
22.53
black code card
Whimiscott V
Reverse Holo
can you weigh the ones in sleeved booster pack and see if the results are the same????
Yeah I plan to do a video, I havent had time because I'm working a diff project.
@@ctrlaltQQ ohh i have bell notification on so ill be looking out for when that one drops !! ;D
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My brilliant stars packs had code cards weight difference of 1.5g and couldn’t be weighed.
I heard wave 2 the issue was fixed, so it's highly unpredictable until you open and find out what box you have
Have you weighed sleeved booster packs? Picked up a bunch today and all duds
Havent yet, but I know fusion strike was possible
@@ctrlaltQQ I picked up 50, 1st 15 all duds....feeling like they may have been sorted out, not wanting to go any further. Kids just go into this and I should have done my due diligence.
@@epbcbicycles where did you buy it from? if its a reliable seller with good reputation its probably fine. but the best items to buy for ripping is 3 pack blisters, they cannot be weighed. sleeved boosters are not safe
@@epbcbicycles Also I would strongly recommend getting a scale, weighing the 50 you have first before opening. if you find out they are all the same weight class, you've been duped and just return it
@@ctrlaltQQ picking up scale now, Ill let you know. Brand new to this...this is a good lesson.
The black borders are 1.2 and the white borders 1.4 for my booster boxes
0.20 makes it weighable. light should be the hits.
The last figure on any scale should always be considered an educated guess, not the exact weight. For example, a displayed weight of 20.66 could in fact be either 20.6 or 20.7 grams. A scale with three decimal points of accuracy in grams, e.g. giving a weight of 20.660 instead of just 20.66 can actually be trusted to give you an accurate weight to the hundredths place.
you're right. I should really get a 3 decimal scale
dude can u handweigh brillant stars pack
no, 0.20 grams of a difference is undetectable by human hands
@@ctrlaltQQ but I can handweigh fusion strike packs any diffs
How much would a rainbow weigh?
I weighed the rainbow cynthia. its the same as a regular holo 1.95
@@ctrlaltQQ so did it weigh 20.2-20.4?
@@jay23xGSxGS it weighs the same as any pack that has a holo, which has a variance. you cannot scout for rainbows
Try doing the dollar tree packs toooo!
Those are notorious for being weighable - I have a video on unified minds if you're interested in that
So i stopped by 3 stores today (target/gamestop/bestbuy) and picked up 25 single boosters. I brought them home and conducted the same experiments as this video peaked my interest. 8 of the 25 packs contained green code cards, i also weighed all of my green cards and they all weighed right around 1.24g i then weighed the 17 white code cards which all weighed right around 1.35g. i found this interesting as your weight for those are much higher. of the 8 holo hits my lightest pack weighed at 22.02g and my heaviest was 22.52g(which was a holo + TG smooth) now of all my non holo packs my lightest weight was 22.02g and the heaviest was 22.42g. I know my data is only based on 25 boosters not from the same booster box but i really just found interesting that all of my white border codes were .25g lighter than yours. cool video just wanted to share what i found.
Looks like your code differential was 1.35-1.24 which is 0.10 which puts that to the unweighable category. But because TG are especially heavy, heaviest packs will most likely still contain a TG smooth so in a way, still weighable. Thanks for the info, good to know that sleeved are packaged separately from the booster boxes. I'll be doing a video about sleeved in the coming week.
@@ctrlaltQQ it is interesting that they would have a different weighing white card for sleeved booster vs boosters in a booster box. I am looking forward to your next video on it to see what your results find!
i sent an email with a pic of the results i had. I also weighed the individual types of cards as well and compared to your results and those were all within +- .03g of yours. my only discrepancy in mine was the white border codes
@@lucascottodiluzio8556 not sure where you sent it to, I didnt get any emails
@@ctrlaltQQ i just resent
You didn’t do gold cards ?
Didnt open any
@@ctrlaltQQ oh okay would they be light too?
@@dazb969 any card that has a black code card would follow the same model. black code card means holo, ultra, secret, rainbow, alternate, gold. i dont have any gold cards from this set for reference
You realize that the white code cards have guaranteed Holo in second slot which is heavier than a common card…that’s why the black codes weigh less cause those guarantee a Holo in second slot.
In some packs there aren’t energies and there’s a heavier V star insert card which throws off the weighing so much
What do you mean? I showed the weight of the VSTAR marker card. The VSTAR card literally weighs the same as an energy card. There is no difference. They are the same as nonholo which was 1.83g
White code cards do NOT have guaranteed holo in the second slot. It's only when it was above 22.65g that it contained the trainer gallery.
He literally just showed us that white code cards are physically heavier than black code cards...
I only know you as the weighing guy🤣 just don't buy loose packs it ruins the joy. It's sad that this is still a thing unfortunately.
I do plenty of other content, if all I'm known for is weighing thats unfortunate... but thats the content people are most interested in, thats out of my control
the weighing of packs makes this hobby not even fun at times
Modern rates are just terrible all around. Pokemon Co is responsible for fixing this problem and people need to be made aware the weighing problem still exists. Have you ever opened a series of packs you know will contain hits? It's exhilarating
Agree, you pay $130 for a booster box to get $30 worth of cards... fun aside, it feels like at the end of the opening you have nothing to show for it (other than a $100 loss)
@@200subswithnovideochalleng7 And that's your problem right there. You are looking at it as a financial investment. You are looking to "make money back" That's not the intention of the hobby when Pokemon cards first came out but that is what it has become. That is what all collectible hobbies has become and it's that mentality that has ruined all trading card hobbies.
@@ctrlaltQQ This is why I am 80% (still love me some international Pokémon!) Japanese collector now with how fun Vmax/Shiny V sets have been, and overall joy of a Japanese booster box in hit ratio and less bloat.
@@vashthestampede3459 Vash a great anime, That being said I agree with ya. I consume my Pokémon card openings like I am ordering a sushi Boat for lunch. I know this money is about to be consumed, for my health and enjoyment~ haha I do not resell the Sushi! I am not reselling Pokémon's!