Elevator Fire Service Demo (All Phases)
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Demo of the basic fire service features we as technicians and inspectors have to check on a regular basis on any passenger or service elevator. Most of these features are often interfaced with the buildings fire alarm system or as is the case in this video, have a separate FACP dedicated specifically to these functions.
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3:20 You don't need to leave the key in the "Reset" position. Just turn it to "Off" after resetting for a second or two and the system will complete the cycle itself, even if the elevator is recalling to a different floor during reset.
Elevator recall really is a beautiful thing when everything works properly. I was at a job where are the primary was supposed to be on the first floor but every time you would activate a detector that was mapped to primary recall, the elevator would shoot to the basement. The basement was alternate recall. It turns out that there was a problem with the elevator controller. All of the programming was correct. Shunt trip I have mixed feelings about, because while it cuts power to the entire elevator, it’s a death trap to anyone inside of it if there was a fire.
If the smoke detector that went off is on the primary recall floor, the elevator will go to the alternate floor, as the primary floor is not safe. If the detector is on a different floor, that's another story (pun intended). About shunt trip, that's another reason why you shouldn't take an elevator if there's a fire. Should that unfortunate chance happen, well, you're wearing a shirt XD
@@flightlevel3608 ok? What’s your point?
@@davidredpath4781 My point is, the system was probably working the way it should.
@@flightlevel3608 in the video? Yes it was
@@davidredpath4781 Oh no I meant at your job. If the smoke detector that went off was on the primary floor then your elevator system was working normally.
Now this is cool. Nice job!
Good job you did a nice work
Great video!
This was awesome !
That elevator sounds like it has a dover buzz
but on newer thyssenkrupp has grocery store beep
Samantha LindenbaumFinch All Otis elevators from the early 1980’s to present have these buzzers for nudge mode and fire service.
and series 1
@NeedNova oh ok
Awesome! I never knew how that worked! That’s really cool.
Well at least I know how to operate an elevator in case of emergency great instructional video I appreciate it I'm going to save it
It’s is likely an nudge mode during fire mode.
Cool!
They really should make that indicator say, 'Please exit when doors open' I don't think most people would understand what that symbol means.
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actually wait on some other otises like the series 1 it does say it
@@h-aandle Most elevators that talk do
This elevator is not equipped with a vocab feature since it's not a mid to high rise building. If it was, it would say that.
Did you have to access the hoistway in order to test the smoke detectors in the shaft? I see you have a full set of Otis keys, but obviously due to how dangerous it is, you probably wouldn't want to be filming, in fear of simplex seeing this.
What is the buildings main system
The first test for when the elevator moved to the 2nd floor, how do you reset it? With the phase l fire key switch on floor 1
That is correct. Fire service mode can be cleared after the initiating device that tripped it has been reset.
Ok, thanks
Awesome, I'll check it out.
not always but some ev you have to enabele to enable phase 1
It's weird how when you activated the smoke detector in the machine room the elevator re-leveled
If the heat detector in the machine room is activated before the smoke or the smoke in the shaft activates, what does it do?
Recalls to designated floor.
The door close button is a different kind it was probably replaced because the other one doesn’t work
It looks like Otis didn't properly adjust the auxiliary recall functionality
What type of alarms were there and how did you disable them on a 4006
He said in the description that this building has a separate FACP dedicated to the elevator system. There may not have been any notification appliances connected to that panel.
@safetech An elevator should never be recalled by a manual pull station or detectors in other facility areas unless specified by the AHJ. IS THERE A REASON FOR THIS.
Any particular reason why you would want to deticate an entire 4008 just for the elevator? My guess would be to keep programming simple on the main panel. Though regardless of how many floors the elevator services it'd be overkill for 2 or 3 floors, and redundant for 8-12 floors being that's it'd just be easier to program that into the main panel. (Most likely a 4100 series and at that point it's going to take more than a day to program anyway)
This facility does not have a main fire alarm therefore the 4008 is in place for the elevator safety controls and as a means to dial out to monitoring.
SAFETECH ahhh ok, that makes more sense now. Thanks!
Some occupancies don't require a fire alarm so the panel is for recall only.
FACP?
got it: Fire Alarm Control Panel
Yes
Nice man, I love watching what it’s like to be a tech. Does Simplex give you permission to upload these videos? Just wondering Because somone uploaded Simplex videos and the company fired them before.
Aaron Productions
Thanks for viewing and for your comment. I would first like to ask where in fact you got the information regarding what your claiming happened? Also, I respect all rights to privacy and never will you see me recording in unauthorized settings or areas not accessible to the general public. All location information is withheld. This is strictly an educational platform. Other than that, anyone has a right to film as long as these guidelines are adhered to and the setting allows for it. Only does it become a problem when careless people start to invade others personal space.
SAFETECH there was a youtuber called “MRTRUEALERT” who had lost his Simplex panels and devices because he released them too early to the public. That’s why he doesn’t upload anymore. And I wasn’t expecting a paragraph about basic laws, I was just asking if your employer is ok with you filming at their costumers buildings. You went in the elevator room which isn’t “assessable to the public” nor eare any of the panels you show so I’m not sure what you were trying to say with that. Sorry I just wrote a big argument essay. Lol I like your videos so keep it up!
Aaron Productions.
You are correct in what you are saying. And no I don’t usually need permission to film because I am not leaking private or personal info. That’s where this whole issue begins.Therefore I feel it isn’t warranted. Like I said before, my vids are for educational purposes. If a privacy concern arises the content will be modified or deleted altogether as I have accidentally ran into that a few times myself in the past.
Aaron Productions
+Aaron Productions What is your source for this? I was trying to find more information on where MrTrueAlert went, but couldn't.
bellum128 he uploaded it to the fire panel forms I believe, but it may have been removed
What happens if the smoke detectors are triggered on both floors and there's a fire on both floors at the same time?
In situations in which smoke detectors are triggered on all floors, most elevators will send a signal to the machine room and the fire alarm control panel to 'shunt trip (or disable)'; the only form to restore its memory is resetting the FACP and the machine switch
The elevator is a Otis Series 5
Question to all fire alarm experts, does turning on fire service trigger a response from the fire department?
Not from what i’ve seen by turning the fire service key. However some elevators may have some special configurations to do so.
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Using elevator fire service as a standalone (test and demo) will not trigger a response from the fire department. However, if the FACP is programmed it will send a signal if the entire building alarm system is triggered.
Dover Buzz.
Otis series 5
It looks like a otis gen2 and series 5
Gen2 is traction, not hydraulic
why don't u ever talk in your videos? just wondering
not to be mean but I just want to hear what u sound like
Evan The gamer Some small youtuber I think SER safety does an interview on this guy
And he does talk when he tests voice evc system. Like making the announcements telling everyone that we will be testing the fire alarm system.
Shouldn't it be recalled to the lobby
If the smoke detector on the second floor tripped, then yes. But since the detector in the lobby tripped, it won't recall to the same floor that the alarm is on. A fire on the second floor would've triggered primary recall, but the ground floor is the alternate recall.
@@gnutelliums What about the detector in the shaft?
@@212Elevators It will do the same thing if the smoke detector in the machine room goes into alarm. It will cause the “Firefighter hat” indicator that is in the elevator to flash.
@@IanGSully Hence why it says to exit the elevator when that happens?
EMERGENCY RECALL