ZeroTow Boogie Unboxing and Review
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Check out the Boogie specs and more details:
zerotow.com.au/
Riding:
Armstrong Foils MA625, 60 cm fude, Dart 140 with 10mm cut off each side, Blue shim, 865 Mast, 3'10" prototype board.
0:00 Unboxing
8:33 Setup
10:47 Review
18:54 Wrap Up
21:11 3 week review - Sport
Sometimes it’s unbearably frustrating to be 70 and not 20!
I'm 70 too, buddy. Don't give up, stay in shape, and keep thinking young. And, go out and buy one of these things! :-)
@@1wldnczyguy - yes boss 😁
66 I kite foil and just moved from Sydney to Diani Beach Kenya having fun every day
There's a blue pill for that
@@Picklemedia 😂🤣
I was surfing in raglan and saw a guy way out back with one of these. I thought he was just using a remote control boat. So glad I found your review.
Yeah there seems to be a few of them around Raglan, great zone for them there to access waves way further up the point and avoid any crowds.
Can't wait for Luke from the Raglan Surf Report to make a video about them. 😂
Great review Oskar, thanks for the effort to make this video! Impressed by the audio quality while riding. Tow boogies are sooo much fun. Love that we established the name Tow Boogie. Shoutout to my buddy Mike Ronge, the inventor who came up with that name!
They are so much fun, just opens up so many possibilities! This sport just keeps getting better and better
Epic. Not having the time or patience to learn and progress in perfect conditions this could really help. I need time on the foil and just towing around on flat water on a calm day will be amazing.
Epic review! Can't wait to get my hands on one
Thanks ledge! We'll be towing around soon enough ;)
Great review and riding Oskar but wow Mark you’ve really outdone yourself it’s so polished for a 1st gen release. The turning looks very natural and there’s a lot to be said for being able to ride lightweight tow gear all the time! 👏
Absolutley! Thats the main thing for me, you arent sacrificing riding your smallest lightest tow gear. It just comes with no compromise to the performance while you are on foil and riding a wave.
Yeeew! So much fun. Thanks for the video
So much fun! What it’s all about
Lots of foil innovation coming from Australia!
Its rare, but occasionally we get something right haha
From nz isn't it?
Yes like all the great foil gear from Armstrong !😉@@ZeusMacindoe
You could put a shark fin on it.
First time I’ve see one of these. Really interesting.
Such a wild product. I’m still tripping out over it
Unbelievable!!!
And that's just Oskar's skills......
HAHA it's all in the gear 🤫
So cool. Would love to get one of these and a foil board.
Obviously a Sun Simulator on the horizon with it's cool blue light😮
Sun simulator? What is that?
@@OskarJohansson1 They are hexagonal structures with halide light bulbs that replace Sunlight when the Sun is being eclipsed by planets passing through our Solar System. There are 7 of them at various latitudes. Characteristically cool light hue compared to golden light from real Sun. People will rarely see the real Sun nowdays due to numerous daily eclipses and hence constant Simulator usage. The constant Simulator use started about 1993 and people under 30 years age will have rarely seen the real Sun. The hexagonal shape is obvious if you look through welding goggles or dark sunglasses
Check state regulations - in nsw the skier must wear a life jacket and the tow vessel has to carry an observer!
great reviews Oskar, I call mine Kit after The Hoff on Knightrider🤣
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Epic test
Crazy cool tech.
Thanks for the review Oskar, self towing is the way to go!
The other downside (besides price, 250h maintenance and battery degradation over time) is it'll probably be considered as jetski in most places, so got to pay attention in protected waters and such. It's just a matter of time when there is some kind of regulation pops up due to some bad actor...
Yeah its a whole new relm with the electrification of foil products. Battery deg is a great point, not sure what the cycles are like on these but I'll do an update over time.
Regulation is the potential risk with these. They are ultimately safe devices is used safely... like anything its the one person that usues it incorrectly that will ruin it for all of us. But at this stage I am treating it just like I would a jetski and adhering to those regulations. Our maritime actually came out to see me using it and they were so interested in getting one for rescues. They didn't raise any concerns about safety but loved the idea of it being inflatable.
@@OskarJohansson1 yeah man, enjoy it! Imagine the future iteration if it’s already pretty good, exiting times!
That’s a cool device. I’ve just started wing foiling. My only concern would be the zipper water seal on the battery.
Nice! Learning to foil has opened up so many possibilities for what you can do in the ocean.
The zipper is crazy. It's good to 15PSI, but we only run them to about 1.5PSI - heaps of head room. Just got to keep it clean and lubricated.
Cool idea
Super interesting 🤙🤙🤙
That is amazing.
Totally wide product hey. Who knows what they will come up with next!
So cool and also how its your mic quality so good haha
They should send you every product they have you will go far with fantastic reviews like this im not even into it but im thinking about it now since the beach is at the end of my street
I’ll second that! Happy to review anything they have haha. Thanks mate!
@@OskarJohansson1 one more thing make sure they know about you send them a link the rest will be history if I owned it I hire you haha good
amazing
Such a wild product!
Very Interesting , let me know if you get or want to have one of these in Japan , we sure can help with that
Looks awesome but Would it handle being dumped in a 6 to 8ft dumper you think? Also could it get out through big shorebreak and turbulence?
A few days ago Oskar and I were out on Boogies and we got caught on the inside with a pretty big shore pound. The Boogies made it back out fine, while we had to walk a 1km down the beach to a gutter!
Most areas in the US a remote tow device is not allowed only private lakes
Hi Oskar.Have you tried the foil drive gen 2? If so, what makes this a better solution for towing yourself into waves? This system seams like a lot more stuff to haul around and manage while you are in the water instead of just going lower on your mast and hitting the trigger whenever you want power with the foil drive.
Just read your answer to other questions 👍🏻. Thanks for the review! Love your channel
Thanks mate! Yeah really different products and both have their pros/cons
Great comprehensive review. Thank you for the time and effort! Been considering an efoil, but this seems like maybe a more versatile experience, and a big battery? Any recommendations on this versus an e?
Nevermind just read your reply on other comments. Thanks again!!!
Nice review, If it gets tipped upside down is it self up righting? Any tips on how to avoid tow rope getting wrapped in the prop? Thnx!
Yes it’s self righting if it get tumbled by a big wave. We have used a stiff PE coated rope so it resists coiling around the boogie.
Giving the boogie a few presses of the trigger every few minutes while it is floating helps keep the rope out straight out the back.
I need One
In places where you rely on the jet ski to retrieve you after the wave could you use and count on this to reliably pull you out of harms way?
That would be good fun for towing a kayak
Hell oskar great review just wondering what camera set up and mic set up are you using looks really high-quality
All the water footage is from a GoPro Max that I use on a 3PV pole. Then the audio is also reordered from a GoPro but I use a voice isolator plugin in Davinci Resolve to clean out all the wind noise. Comes out looking really good!
@@OskarJohansson1 thank you oskar ! Keep ripping man🤙🏿
kinda looks like a good trolling setup tbh, and you're the bait 🤔
Great review Oskar. 😎🤙🔥 Looks pretty cool! Kinda sketchy to buy though. Looks like they only accept bank transfers. I would want purchase protection on something this expensive. Like through PayPal or something. I guess it’s a new product and not really setup to sell them yet?
Hey, there are a couple of reasons for not using credit cards or PayPal. The fees are quite high, 2-4% depending on the card. this cost would have to be added. Most high value products are done with bank transfers.
The other is fraudulent charge backs. I’ve had them previously with $50 items I’ve sold and they are a nightmare. A fraudulent charge back is a risk and hassle that at the moment I can’t take so have opted for just bank transfer.
It needs it’s own foil to keep it stable in the chop
Super cool video and the microphone quality is so good. What is your audio setup? No wind or 360 cameras in a case muffled sound.
Thanks! I actually recorded the audio straight from the gopro but then cleaned the audio in Davinci Resolve to isolate the voice.
nice
Very cool. What do you mean by get the board to the service? That you can ride any foil…
Once the board gets to the surface of the water and is planing almost any sized foil will work. Some people will need to modify their starting technique to do this compared to a Jetski or boat. I start on my knees to do this.
It would be nice to connect and disconnect the waist harness and tow rope.
That would be great for long trips down the coast or upwind!
Very cool product and video! What video camera did you use to shoot this? I'm really surprised that you can hear you speaking so clearly while riding. Cheers
It is such a wild and fun product! This was shot with the GoPro Max on a carbon pole. Looks really great!
I’ve got a really nice little 18l appletree skipper tow board. Would this get me out the water with an Ma 800?
I’m 85kg
It’s more about length than volume. I’ve got up on a 11 litre WKT board with a bit of effort. You do want a board that you can paddle though just incase.
It does remote tracking!?
I don't need to hear anything else, I'm sold
🤣🤣😝
Could you add weight to it to make it bounce around less in the chop?
I’ve had this thought as well. I know there is possibility to use two batteries stacked on top of each other so that could be the solution!! Would be heavy carrying into the water though
I like where you’re head is at ;)
Foildrive v2 Slim performance battery or zero tow. Both are similar in price. What would be your preference and why.
FoilDrive if you're always going alone. ZeroTow if you have friends. Traded between 3 foilers is ideal in my opinion.
I sold my foil drive for one of these and best decision. This thing is so fun. Yes it’d be a blast with friends but has been epic for solo tow sessions too. Super light, easy to get in and out of water by your self, easy to control, and you’re foiling on your regular weighted gear no battery box or prop attached to your setup. Highly recommend
I don’t think that’s necessarily a straight forward question. I think it depends on what you want to do with your foiling! My biggest thing with riding any electric products is I don’t want to sacrifice performance when I am on a wave, which is my ultimate goal. Foil drive is a great tool for learning to DW and for learning to foil in the surf. But the negatives are when you’re on a wave you have a much heavier setup and if the prop goes in the water you have a bunch of drag. ZeroTow you have no compromise on the wave experience, you can ride the smallest and lightest setup tuned to maximise performance on the wave. But it isn’t as accessible in all locations as you can’t use it near other water users. Also if you want to learn to SUP DW, it’s not going to be much help… maybe it would be good to do DW runs and then when you come down use it to get back on foil 🤷
I can already SUP DW so I am only looking for a device to help me ride waves and at the highest performance and we have heaps of spots with no people so I would choose the ZeroTow. Also I am getting almost 3 hours of battery compared to maybe 20mins with a slim and I would need a bigger board for foil drive than my 22L prone? Not a clear cut answer, but just things to consider
How much it costs? Amazing video and innovation!! 👏 👏 👏
In Australia they are $10k AUD
What happens if the water is crowded?
The battery should be useful as a Powerwall if not used in the water.
I treat it like a JetSki. So if anyone else is in the water, then I don’t use it. I don’t think they should be used near crowds! That’s also the joy, you can get away from the crowds with it ;)
The battery is 3kWh, and we used standard connectors. You could if you wanted to make a harness and use a 48V inverter to power almost anything!
wow
#need
10 grand. A lot !!! Imagine you could pick up 2 really good used jet skis for that.
It’s funny, I had the same perspective! But think about it in reverse, a brand new Yamaha FX is the same as 3 new Boogies. Factor in ski/trailer rego, servicing, licenses, fuel, and car maintenance from reversing into the ocean, might as well add a fourth boogie haha. And you still need another foiler to drive and they’ll take 50% of the waves. So wave per dollar you’re looking at a 1 to 8 ratio comparing new ski to new boogie. Now you’re thinking it’s a bargain 😉
Still nothing wrong with the prone setup we all still own! We are just creatures that always seem want more 😞
@@OskarJohansson1 true
Looks like it needs to be on a foil too
Could you put some snacks and drinks inside the zipped up bag?
Inside the zip is completely waterproof. I leave my phone and a towel in there all the time. Lunch for a trip to an island would awesome!
Oskar why you need a machine to tow out....if you have e foil without lines, etc.?!?!?!?
The idea is to keep the weight off the board. Efoils are like a driving a bus, a using a foil like this is like driving a sports car.
8000? like a small car
But it's 1/3 the price of a jetski and has no registration, servicing or fuel costs... 🤔
how the hell did you film this ???? drone yes ..but what about when it dipped underwater ? Amazing stuff .RK
No drone, its actually all from a GoPro Max... 360 camera. The camera uses two lenses that overlap over the pole holding the camera and it appears invisible. I dip the camera every now and then to stop salt water drying on the lenses and making it blurry.
whats the battery life when youre being towed on foil
Im 95kg and get about 2hours or 30km range when in the surf.
@@markduyvesteyn is that 2 hours the total time being towed on foil, or does it the entire session of 2 hours.
That’s a good question, I don’t actually know! Just like a FoilDrive it would be setup related. I’m sure I could ride a big slow foil and cruise around at 10% throttle for literally hours on end. But if I ride my MA625 tow foil it might only be an hour and a bit. Just a best guess though 🤷
I wounder if you could tow up wind and then it could follow you down wind 🤔
If you had a section of water that was protected. But as he said in choppy water it gets difficult.
Small down wind runs work ok, but going directly into chop can be hard work so if you can go upwind in a bay and then go out into the waves then that’s ideal. Having said that I haven’t winged in over 12 months and have been full time on the Boogie in any conditions and have always had fun!
Straigh into the chop is tough, but you can cut a 45 degree and zig zag you way upwind. I have done it a couple times in moderate chop, but never 15 plus knts. It is totally possible! I want to try do it on a longer DW run with a prone board. I could also start from a harbour or somewhere that normally would be a long paddle put, but with this just drive straight out and then when in the bumps get it to follow me.
Would be really interested to hear more about how this performs in a downwind situation. Not necessarily punching upwind into chop, just assisting getting prone boards on foil and following along.
This boogie engine need to be foil! This way no wobble and variable speed on choppy water
Now that would be interesting! Gen 2 maybe haha
How much $$$
$10k AUD... 1/3 of the price of a new Yamaha FX ;) haha
I would pay this man residuals
Shut up and take my money!😅
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Gassi gehen mit Hund funktioniert jetzt auch auf dem Wasser !? 😁👍
7g’s 😢
Wheres a megladon when u need one😅
Is this a Joke
When I see 95kg on it, I will believe it... That is until a.i phucks it all up.
All of the development and testing was done by me. Im 95KG and use a 34L board. Have a look at oceanpixles videos, he's bigger than me!
Go watch @Oceanpixels he is 96-98kg and uses it all the time