CHOLO DELUXE 36'' samson cholos install
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2020
- Installing samson 36'' Cholos on the Softail Deluxe. The good, the bad and why building a cholo deluxe really requires true duals for authentication. Filmed in westchester NY in late May 2020, this film consists of entirely original footage.
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Those pipes totally change the character of the bike ! Awesome video !!
Definitely, thank you
Bike looks great!! I've had the 36 inch Samson's on my 05 fat boy since 2008. Have not had a problem with them at all. I choloed out it also with 16 inch apes, 21 inch 80 spoke in the front and 16 inch in back. F ing love that style!
Bro, I've been catching up piece by piece in staggered order but all have been great. Watching your journey as inspiration for the possibilities I may head toward with this type of bike. 🤙Ride safe brotha!🤙
Great build sir! I just order the complete exhaust as well thanks to your video, keep em coming
Thanks man, you'll love it. Let me know how you like them, also feel free to reach out if you run in to any issues
Beautiful bike brother I'm in love with it
Stunning Cholo bike brother, being following your videos, please don't stop posting , I enjoy the production, editing and music on them. Working on get mine done, I'm half way.
Thanks Vick, the bike is in the shop at the moment for new wheels. But ill be sure to do a wheels film as soon as I get it back. Good luck with your build. Putting it all together is half the fun
This is one of the reasons I decided to buy my 2020 white deluxe two weeks ago now time to get Samson’s
I love your videos and your bikes. I look forward to seeing more. Hell of a nice bike. Everyone here in Tennessee loves your videos.
Great video! Love the bike! I have 2019 CHOLO with the true duals. Its a bad ass bike too!
Nice build! Great look.
Sick!!!! Bike looks great!
Great video and well explained.
Love the bike man sick editing !!!!
Thanks man, got some new parts and ideas coming in the next few weeks
I been thinking of the 42" Cholos for a while now and I think I'm just gonna go for it. Ur bike is SICK and sounds awesome now. U talked my into it lol
Great video, great info and beautiful bike. Did you go with the 2-1/4" non baffled?
Heard some Deftone in this video. Your music taste is next level along with your video editing.
good video. Wicked-clean bike!
GREAT VIDEO! BIKE LOOKS GOOD.
Hi John, i have just received my Samson pipes and I’ve noticed there is a bracket under the transmission cover that secures the right side pipe. Did you use this bracket to secure Samson right side pipe? Love the new look in your latest video. Have you thought about changing the rear indicator lenses with the jet flame ones, they would look cool?
Nope, didn't use the existing bracket. I only use the samson brackets.
The more I think about those lenses the less I want to use them. At first they seemed kinda cool, but now I kinda feel like it's cool not to have them
wassap john!!! nice awesome bike brother!!! man I end up buying true duals last night when I saw this vid. ride safe brother!
Awesome, you'll love the sound. They really bark
Hey man, so you don’t have to do a bunch of engine work to get that bark when you let off the throttle? I’ve been searching everywhere to find out how to get my bike to do this but can’t find shit on the internet. It’s really just the pipes that do that? And do you think it will bark even it’s everything is stock? I mean I have a high flow RSD intake but still? Im in love with the bark sound
Sounds so so so good!!!!!!❤
Great video! I was wondering what did you use for the exhaust mounting bracket ?
The brackets come with the samson exhaust.
Badass channel man 💪
Nice ride dude, I'm still fixing my Road King the way I want it.
Thanks, I love the Road kings. Good luck with the build.
damn bro, killer intro!!! ill have to step up with my videos ....
subscribing!!!!!
ohhh and sick pipes!!!
Thanks man!
great video, can you tell me where you purchased your visors from, especially, the big middle light visor?
Damn that's a bad ass bike , def subscribing
I have a 2017 street bob but watching your videos made me want a deluxe soo bad now. Sucks they are no longer gunna make them. Looking forward to more videos
Thanks man, the street bobs are among the few HD's I would buy. Great platform for a custom bobber. Thanks for the good vibes, more to come.
Thanks man, the street bobs are among the few HD's I would buy. Great platform for a custom bobber. Thanks for the good vibes, more to come.
J.E.T. FILM yeah exactly what I’m doing to mine just need some 12” ape hangers and the le pera bare bone seat 👊🏼
Oh PS I bought some because of you . My bike almost looks like yours now .. thanks for the cool info
What’s better Heritage or Deluxe? Also what year is your bike? Thanks
My next purchase for a bike I just bought. 2006 Softail Deluxe FLSTNI Fuel Injected.
Hey brother how many inches were you lowered in the rear in this vid?
Great F’kg opener! Love it Sicario!
Cool bike bro, she sound sick to me
Please share the link to buy the pipes
How u put the shift rod on I am having trouble
nice bike,looks way cool,sounds bad-ass....good job.
Love your vids man, huge inspiration on my build! Did you use torque cones?!?
Saw that you had removed the baffles, was this alright for a fuel injected bike and did you have to get it tuned after. I’ve got Vance & Hines long shots on mine right now
It will run fine without baffles. You might get a few pops on the downrev. In a perfect world you'd want to re-tune for that, but you truly don't need to unless you're changing your intake as well.
Hell yeah ! Deftones !! 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Hell yeah!
Them fishtails are super sharp and will lay a shin wide open! Mine have laid a drunk biker wide open a time or three at the Lone Star Rally in Galveston! I could get pissed because they ran into my bike, but as soon as I see their pants torn I know they are bleeding and they usually limp off apologizing for hitting my bike. They are too drunk to realize how injured they are until much later!
Finally..,good job!
Thanks George
Duuude I love your bike I would never sell it ever !
Can you run these pipes with the fishtails off? If so how long are the tails of ya don’t mind me asking? Bike looks great
Yeah, you could do that. The samson fishtail ends are about 6", so subtract that from whatever size you originally got.
2 fishtails on one side is unique. But 36" Samson is Full Cholo 😂😂😂. I love it!
Hey man did you have to use different brackets where the slip ons connect? The stock brackets on this used bike I bought don’t match up to the slip on bolts
The samson exhaust comes with the brackets you'll need. If you just need the brackets at this point then try Steady Custom Cycles. They sell some heavy duty brackets that I've been using for a few months now. Definitely recommend
When you remove the baffles did you put in torque cones?
I didn't but im considering it. I definitely lost a couple ft/lbs
Oh yeah new sub just from the pipes!
So I did mine too and will be taking the baffles out tomorrow and be getting that exhaust putty! Did you have to tune the bike? I have a lot of pop!
I'm running FP3 for tune. So yes, I did re-tune it after installing it and it ran smoother
Having the same problem with the crossover pipe not tightening with my 36” samsons how did you solve that issue?
I'd like to help you, but it takes forever to type. Scroll the comments, I've answered this question before. And I answered it in the video
SICK bike!!! Just got a stock 2019 and will build a cholo style. Wish you could put links of where you bought your parts, etc.
Hey man, i made a video about a year ago and i named of all the mods I had done. I didn't put links though, maybe ill do another film soon and rename all the mods including the new ones and add the links.
GOD your making me want to buy a Deluxe with the shark fin pipes 8] Love the Bike Brother
Hey man. How could you tell you weren’t getting a good seal? I just installed mine last week and I feel like the sounds is a bit off
Yeah, it will sound a little funny if its leaking a lot. Try sticking your hand around the area of some of the connection points, and feel for blowing air while its idling.
Cool. I like the white and blue paint job. Add some red and it will be an American Flag!
I just sold my HD, so in a market for a used Deluxe or RK to do a similar build, however I'm limited to garage space, what is the overall length of the bike from front tire to the tips of the pipes?
I believe I measured it at 108"
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Wow, I have 109" - 110" space, thanks!
Bike looks great! So just curious because i am putting the same pipes on my 13' softail slim and i am no mechanic lol will i be able to do this or do i need to take it to Harley or whatever?
You'll be able to do it yourself, and you'll gain mechanical confidence in doing so. It's pretty straightforward as far as "nuts and bolts" go. The only difficult/frustrating part was sealing up leaks on the cross pipe.
Like any mod, take your time, be organized, and get some exhaust pipe sealant before you begin because you'll probably need it.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL thanks brother i appreciate it. . just got the pipes in today so tomorrow is the big day. . lord i hope this goes well lol. Be safe out there much respect💪🙌
Do you have them running with or without the baffles?
Without
hey are those the diamond cut wheels what brand are they and were can i order them from and how much did they set you back for.
They're DNA mammoth 52 fat spoke diamond cut. Roughly 2500
Hi there, I’ve just pulled the trigger on these 36inch cholos for my 2011 deluxe stage3. I’m based in the Uk 🇬🇧 so won’t get them for a few weeks. Any advice on installation would be appreciated. Once I get these on the handlebars are next. I’m struggling to find carlini gangster apes. They only seem to sell throttle by wire bars. May have to go burly gorilla bars.
Hey man, sounds awesome. I've heard lately that Carlini's were almost impossible to find. Everything is sold out.
The only tricky part of the fishtail install is eliminating the inherent exhaust leak at the "crossover" connection points. People without leaks are the lucky few. But there are a few ways of creating seals for those leaks, I personally used permatex exhaust puddy and tape and it worked pretty well. Some new exhaust gaskets wouldn't hurt, they're very cheap.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL I purchased the gaskets, flanges, torque cones and the chrome bracket upgrade as my bikes pretty chromed out. Shame about the Carlini bars. Thanks for the advice on the exhaust sealant. Keep posting the vids, nice to see someone who appreciates the cholo design that doesn’t actually look like a gangster. I mean that in the nicest possible way.
What’s the info on bars? 18” 1.25 or 1.50?
They're 16" Carlini gangsters 1.25" on 2 inch risers. Tightened down, they don't budge
Ive had nothing but problems keeping the connection behind the rear cylinder on the crossover tight as well lol. So bad that it changes the sound on that side. Ive been tempted to weld the shit and cut it when i ever have to tale the exhaust off
Agreed, samson needs to redesign the connection points. They're too prone to leaks, especially when 90% of these styled exhausts are on lowered bikes
12 week lead time from Samson right now for these pipes. And hen's teeth everywhere else!
Bought these pipes with my trump money just got em in today . Got an 04 heritage softail classic . Throwing em on tomorrow . Can’t wait. Subscribing rn. Bad ass channel man
Thanks man, good luck with the install. You'll love 'em.
J.E.T. FILM you weren’t lying about the pain in the ass install man. But definitely worth it. I had a two into one that sounds like a scooter compared to these pipes lmao
Yeah what a pain, but definitely worth it. Agreed!
I just installed my 36 :( the left muffler stick out to the left about 1 inch can't figure it out...to doesn't look right. Might have to bend the bracket a bit 🤔
You could also try spacing out the right muffler at the mount with a washer to even it out. Got to do what you gotta do
Awesome. Is this with or without baffles?
Without
Nice bike👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The best pip’s ever 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Love them. I will get them for my RK.
So I'm about to bite the bullet on buying my exhaust, do you wish you would have went with the 39"?
Well, this was 2 years ago, the bike is completely different now. I ended up doing stretched fenders which made the 36's short. So I now have 40's. Watch the more recent videos, I talk about them and why.
pure awesomeness
SICK FACTOR a "12"...... love it
Did you use cones since you took out the I just ordered some and girl told me to the cone since I am taking out baffles.. did you have to add power commander
No cones...yet. I do feel a very slight loss in torque in the low end, but it does feel better in the mid range. I'm running an FP3 so I re-tuned for the new pipes.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL awesome build... I'm ordering my pipes for the deluxe this week man, still need handlebars and wheels though. When tuning with the FP3... I didn't notice a samson map on there, what map did you use?
Yeah, it doesn't cover every exhaust, but try to get it as close as possible. I think I used the Vance and Hines fishtail true duals map, which is an almost identical exhaust. Then run Autotune for a couple hundred miles and let the FP3 fine tune your map to suit your engine and mods, apply to autotune and you should be good to go. Customization features on the FP3 are great to set idle speeds, exhaust pop, etc.
Did that swing arm bag no longer work after you installed the new exhaust?
Excellent observation. That's correct, the bag would have had contact with the left side exhaust. Kind of a bummer that I lost the storage space, but I counteracted the loss with a small bag mounted to my risers. Not great, but it helps.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Ahhh I was kinda hoping you had figured out a way of keeping it. Getting ready to install some Samson 39" on my bike and was hoping for some additional storage other than a fork mounted bag
I didn't put up much of fight when I had to take it off because the strings that held it in place were starting to wear away the black frame paint. You could look into the triangle shaped metal tool box which gives a little extra space
Nice bike what kind of rims do you have
Those are the DNA mammoth 52 diamond spoke
Did you use the factory risers with the gangster apes?
No, I used 2 inch risers from Carlini. And I installed solid metal bushings to combat any bar flex.
J.E.T. FILM okay thanks!
i have the same bike deluxe and same year i am in the process of doing what you did i love that look your videos are bad ass as well im hook man im hope to get a few friends to change there bike to this style in canada that is
The best way to convince your buddies to build one is to show them in person how cool your Cholo looks and they'll be convinced.
What engine mod's have u done?
Its just a stage 1, but I've been really considering a big bore kit.
Hi John, just installed my Samson 36inch cholos and the bike is now running like a dog. Did you use an FP3 to tune and if so what map did you select?
Hey man, sorry to hear that. I did use the FP3 and used an off the shelf stage 1 map. It'll ask you which hardware you are using and you just input what you have into the map. Just so you're aware, these pipes will sacrifice a couple lbs of torque compared to stock. It's a trade off for the looks.
If the bike is really running badly you may have a significant exhaust leak. Check all connections especially the crossover behind the rear cylinder. If the leak is bad, it'll sound really crappy especially at low rpm under moderate-high load and it'll kill your power. I've been there, it takes patience to get those connections to seal properly. You may want to look at picking up some pipe sealer at the auto parts store.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Cheers John for the advice. You were right in your video, these are pig to install and I’m going to double check that crossover. When I installed the crossover I had issues with gear shifter linkage hitting the pipe and I spent hours adjusting it just to stop it from hitting.
Managed to resolve my issues, that bloody cross pipe was leaking and where it connected to the rear cylinder. The inner nut on the rear cylinder is virtually impossible to get onto due to the return bend on the pipe. I note on one of your more recent videos you had to get the cross over pipe replaced but you do not say why. Would be interested to know what happened just in case it’s something I need to look out for. How are you getting on with those DNA wheels, possibly my next purchase when the wife isn’t looking? You now how it is.
How tall are you? I'm like 6.4, tride the deluxe but my legs were straight with the top of the tank 😭
I'm 5.11 but I always rest my feet on the highway pegs which stretches out the legs. If you like the look of the deluxe but find it too small, then check out the road king, its very similar but larger.
really like ur bike I'm building mine now parts are expensive
Thank you, the big items are expensive. But there are tons of little parts on the bike which you can find on ebay for reasonable prices.
Where did you get that seat? I want it
Thats a "LaPera bare bones" seat. If you search for it you might be able to find the exact one, if not the company will custom make one for you
Dude where can i buy that exact samd fender?
Pickardusa.com
If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy these and for how much?
Directcycleparts.com and I got them for $650
Damn, thats the best price i have seen, thanks. Did it take forever to get them?
I got them in about 3 weeks
Where did you get the seat? I have an 06 Deluxe and the seat is too wide and high.
That's a LePera bare bones seat
is your bike lowered 2 inches permanently? no air ride? I'm thinking of getting some 36" for my lowered Train, just wondering how much Scrapping?? BTW Bad Ass Bike!!!
Its not permanent, I change it as necessary. Takes 10 min to adjust the ride height. With the 16 rear, 2inch drop and 36" cholos I would scrape a lot
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Oh...How do you change it in 10 min?
They're 422's so they're adjustable. Jack the the bike up, a few turns of the wrench and its all done.
did you have to move the coil bracket
If I remember correctly it came with a new bracket which allows more room for the crossover pipe
Now you have to wear fishnet wrap for the hair and only buttons the top two buttons when wearing plaid-shirts
Hey that’s a sharp bike,! I think removing baffles hurts your top end torque. That’s just my take!
Thanks, it absolutely does. But then again, this is the wrong style of build to try and squeeze out every ounce of power. The pipes alone will hurt power, even if I installed the baffles. 2-1 is best for power but it ruins the look and the sound of the style im going for. Got to make compromises somewhere. Cheers!
@@JETFILMCHANNEL yes you are right jet , it didn’t look right with 2n to 1.I don’t think 2 n1 looks good or would look good on my road king.
Hello, I have a question I’m having my 2011 Softail deluxe custom I’m changing my stuck exhaust, to a Samson 36״ fishtail. Do I need to do powerVision Tune on that???
You can change the exhaust without a tune, but if you change the intake then you'll need a tune.
If you already have a tune and want to fine tune it for that particular exhaust than it wouldn't hurt. I changed mine to match my pipes, didn't really notice a difference though.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL hi John so from ur experience I don’t have to change the tune if it make No difference?
Right, no tune is necessary for exhaust as long as you continue to use the stock air intake.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL thank u my man. Are u from Westchester, and if u are have u heard of a place called JP CustomsNYC down in Westchester.
Yeah from westchester, and I've heard of JP but never been there before. You recommend them?
What size are your bars, and how tall are you sir?
They're 16" on 2" risers and I'm 5'10
Did you leave the baffles in or out ? Do you get harassed by the cops ?
Baffles are out. No issues with the cops, it's a Harley
when you took out inserts did you have to map it
You don't have to but it'll run better if the tune is specific to a "non baffled" exhaust. I'm using an FP3 so I re-mapped it right in the garage, 5 min. Good question
@@JETFILMCHANNEL ok thanks got 05 deluxe Sampson duels Arlen Ness intake I’ve used fuel pak on my Sportsters any thing you recommend to remap please let me know thanks Chopper Dave
What year is your bike? Is it a heritage?
It's a 2013 deluxe
I have a 93 evo. I want this exhaust!
Are those 33 long or 36 fishtails?
They are the 36"
J.E.T. FILM sweet! Thanks
What did you do to fix the exhaust leaks I'm having the same problem
Permatex pipe sealant tape works pretty well for this, and a wide band exhaust clamp can help spread the load to capture more area. Make sure the mating surface is clear of any grit too.
I've come to accept that it will never be perfect for very long. The exhaust always finds a way out especially with the amount of vibration the system puts up with.
Best you can do is make it as perfect as possible from the start, and retighten every now and then.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL thanks bro I'll try that if I cant tighten it up anymore
So what do you do when you need remove the exhaust
It's very rare that you'll need to completely remove the headers.
Replaced the whole swingarm without touching the exhaust.
If you do, just repeat the process.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL thanks again
Did you keep the baffles out?
Yeah, I chucked those a long time ago. Got new pipes too
Thanks and did you use torque cones?
Nice vid
Front cylinder, easy. Rear cylinder pipe install, a complete nightmare! Plumbing up that u-turn and getting to the nuts that go to the head, close to impossible! I am extremely mechanical inclined and by the time I was done, I wished I would have taken it to the shop!
Oh man, I know it. It sucked, and to make it worse I had to fix so many reoccurring leaks in that "crossover" area. So many bloody knuckles. But in the end, it looks/ sounds awesome which made it all worth it
Yup,,a bitch to install,,i had the same one side duel set up on my deluxe with bologna cut,,sounded nice but i like the true duel look,,at least 12 hours to install on a deluxe
I am doing a 36 inch install now , the cross over pipe hits the fins on the back of the jug. And the nut is impossible to tighten up because the pipe is to close to the stud. This is definitely a defect in the jigs they use to manufacture these exhaust systens. If samson does not help I will be returning this Samson 36 inch Cholos , it should not be this way to spend a 1000 bucks and to have the cross over pipe actually hit the rear jug and the non tightening of the nut issue , Samson knows there are issues and does nothing to the manufacturing process to make it right. I know 3 other bikes to have these pipes and they do not have a problem ...... Mine is a 15 heritage softail classic
What seat is that?
LaPera bare bones