Let's discuss CHOLO bikes
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- Sam Fisk and I discuss Cholo / Vicla ideas and mods in an effort to build the best road king / deluxe cholos possible. We free-talk without any real structure and I feel that the audience may feel like its a more "genuine" conversation rather than a pre-manufactured discussion.
Minimal editing on this film to give it a more real feel.
Three cameras and two microphones setup in a large garage in central westchester new york. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
You should make this a series like "bike talk episode 1"
It will have so much more power with a Mikuni carb than with that severely limited fuel injection setup! I hunted for a 2002 Heritage just to avoid all the old fuel injections limitations.
This is the best man. Just talking about vicla builds never gets old
This is exactly what mu buddies and I do, sit around a garage, smoking cigars and and talking builds. Love it
This was an Awesome video! I have a 04 RoadKing and I like listening to Sam talk about his bike. Gives me tons of ideas.
Thanks, I'm glad it helped. So I'm assuming a follow-up film would be something you'd find useful? Trying to gauge if this style of film is something that people like.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL really enjoyed it. Like I was there with you guys drinking a beer, hanging in the garage.
Love it man, yeah, this video i wanted it to be more casual. Like, just a couple guys talkin bikes
So much great insight thanks for sharing
I enjoy your videos keeping them coming
Great video John. Like all the others. Helps me developing my bike. Holland is discovering your videos man. Awsome. Keep them coming!
Thanks Frans, more to come before spring. I post little ideas on my Instagram too between videos.
Love your videos bro, subbed, inspired me to do it up on my 2015 deluxe 103. Finally completed w/ legend suspension front and rear , hands down best. Planted and ripping through long sweeping curves(didn’t want air ride). Carlini 14” gangsters, all chromed out. Bought new off showroom floor, waiting for tires to wear a little more before I go w/21 front, 18 rear fat spoke. Keeping stock fenders. Seriously considering cams now and that’s it. Got throw over bags and sissy bar duffle for south Jersey shore runs, weekend trips. Greetings from south Philly Italian. keep up the good work I dig your videos!!!
Love the tool box 'montage' lmao!
ngl Sam you looking like a straight creeper sitting in the dark over there... Great video. Love the build. keep up the great work
Ain’t ever think bout calling them Viclas? That’s what us chicanos around my town call em. Great content tho!
Thank you, sometimes I refer to it as a vicla. But here in NY we mainly call it a Cholo. Same thing, just different names. Cheers
@@JETFILMCHANNEL ummmmmmm, NO, not same thing. Its not ok to arbitrary change a name. have some respect and call it what it is bro.
Where I'm from, we call it a Cholo.
@@JETFILMCHANNEL Where your from is not where the bike style and name is from....🤷🏻♂️, but if you don’t want to respect the correct name and help to rectify it.... it is what is is and its still a badass VICLA you got there...salud!
@@yonceydelatorre3802 it's about enjoying the bike not getting caught up on a name.
Love the videos Awesome job
Cool video guys, good to have on side listening to while doing bookwork at our business, can listen, don't have to watch for details..
I have a 2005 roadking i put progressive drop in suspension in front has a 2in drop, and some burly drop shocks for the rear i like the way it looks jus regret not buying the 39in samsons fishtails i have the 36in. Ones... Cant wait to see yalls done man 🤘
Hey man, love your videos. you mentioned painters hard to find in the north east. my bike was painted by pradke, i believe is in your area.
Cool video. Thanks!
Bro this vid was dope I enjoyed it, def more frequent vids would be dope as well .
Thanks, I'd really like to increase the frequency of the vids. This winter has been tougher than I originally thought. Parts I've ordered are taking forever to receive, 1 manufacturer mixed up my order which pushed me back a couple weeks, slowing down the whole train of videos coming up.
Sometimes I think you guys forget that the Softail Springers are part of the Vicla/cholo game. Other than that, another solid video, keep it up. ✌️
You're 100% right. I definitely leave out the springers when I'm talking about cholo bikes. Not sure why I keep doing that because I highly respect a well done cholo springer.
Yeah I'm digging your site here! Keep it going on all and maybe some other cholo's also! Ride on brother!
I'm sitting here talking to myself like I'm part of the conversation like a damn fool....lol.
You can buy the visor/hood for your round 4 inch mirror on Amazon for like $10. Definitely a cholo thing to have !!
Good man! Thanks for the info!
That's what I did. Instead of buying the Gangsta Mirrors for over $100, same Mirrors, buy visor separately.
Hell, the visors come separately on the expensive ones too.
First off, the production and edits on your videos is top notch. Secondly, if you’re considering a cam set, your fishtail exhaust is likely sacrificing performance on your deluxe comparing to other stage 1 103s but as far as a performance cam my 57h has been great and delivers 93hp/99ftlbs at the wheel on a out of the box FP3 tune. The 57h is designed for the 103 the 48h cams are better suited for the 96ci motors. But if you’re going just for exhaust note with the fishtails pull the trigger on some lopey boys since you’re not likely to achieve the most efficient exhaust flow and scavenging characteristics with the fishtails anyways. Just some food for thought.
Thanks, definitely sound advice. I knew I'd be sacrificing some power with those fishtails, but thats the price of the "look".
The lope is definitely an alluring characteristic that I'd like to have, but thankfully I still have a couple months to research. 93hp with the fp3 is pretty damn good, I bet she rips.
Thanks for the info, cheers!
@@JETFILMCHANNEL definitely does look killer excited to see the progress! The stretched fenders will definitely make it pop. And ya she definitely scoots with the 57h cams. I think you’ll enjoy the seat of the pants pull with some cams.
LOL "Wendy's" Popped in there like a notification :D "Sam Hungry!" Noice!
Hope you make it to myrtle. I’d love to see the cholo in person. Great content keep it up.
Guero, you know more about Cholo than my Cholo friends...lol... And, I'm Mexican in Los Angeles, CA... I have an 03 RK and added the Shockgun Shocks (rear)...Great!! And Samson headers with 39 Shark fin up swept tip, looks bad ass... all the chicks dig it, and the homies too...lol....That's Cholo.... If you guys ever come to Cali, Los Angeles give us a heads up... By the way, I like your videos... Keep it up Bro...
Love following you channel brother, mad as 😝
Yo yo another great video! Can't wait to ride!
Thanks Sammy, can't wait
Yep I ran Amsoil and I remember when I first ran my bike after a new oil change man my bike felt like it had more power and roar to it! Ima continue to use Amsoil full synthetic!
The talking of the possibilities of how your thoughts of your up grading was kool.
I thought it would be nice to see the parts of what you both were discussing, if they were available at the time.
Thanks, and you're right. I should have shown clips of the parts we were discussing. I dropped the ball on that.
I’m out in California right now matching front and rear is mandatory, most shops out here won’t do just a front.
I liked it...well done gents
Thanks Vito
Amazing
You need front and rear air ride on that Road King. And really, you need the extended rear fender with extended bags
Got to say, I agree.
Cholo for life!
Love your videos! Are you guys going to myrtle this year?
Thanks, we might be going. Not 100% at the moment though. I'll definitely make an announcement on Instagram of any rally we are going to attend. As of now, Americade and Laconia are 100%
Hey John, thoughts on taking an 07 FatBoy and making a cholo build? I have an 07 FatBoy and debating whether using that as my flatform for the build or buying a Deluxe or RK
any input appreciated. Thanks and keep up the good quality vids
Loved the video and the things you guys discussed, are you going zarape beadroll speaker (beats)??
Hey Ray, thanks for watching man. I've seen those before and I just think they're too big. The diameter is just too wide to the point where they start to dwarf the front end of a deluxe. They may look a little better on a road king though. But either way, I'm not really feelin the whole "speaker" thing on cholo bikes. But hey, "TO EACH HIS OWN". Stay safe Ray
Keep us posted please on the king.
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I'm running Woods TW 555 cam my bike is Dyno tuned Clock Werks pipes and pushing 97 hp 102 torque on my 2008 softail deluxe with a 96 cubic inch engine!
Impressive numbers, I'm sure she rips
my vote is 39s for sure again I couldn’t be happier with my set and my fender is stock . The stretched bags kinda down play the length on them.
Good call
Great interview 2harleycharlie
Sam rocks!! Get him a burger and a few beers!
Damn you made the tool box look all gangster....
If you do the air ride on your deluxe you should add a tank so you have the fast up air ride. Soft tails are famous for the slow air ride.
I look into that. From what I see, it looks pretty fast though.
If you stretch your fender or add streched bags you really should go with 39 fishtails. They look like 36. Also if you ever need some good work done check out ctr customs they are out of roswell new mexico they are they best
I just had a cam, filter, fishtails and a tune done on my 2020 deluxe, didn't make much more power than stock, the torque numbers improved though. The tuner said that the fishtails kill the power figures
They definitely do. It's no secret the 2-1 are best for making power, but fishtails look and sound awesome.
I never hear people say "wow, look at that 2-1!", but everyone's got something to say about some big ole' fishtails.
You made the right choice Scott
west coast chopper cholo and Vicla is all good ! look up Steady customs Factory 47 for some good products to dress them scooters up also in my humble opinion don't go with black for a true chicano style Vicla go with a lowrider paint job candy paint something to stand out and say hey Foo im here y Que !!! from the west coast ✊🏽
That amsoil adds like 39 horses powers man
It was a good time.. Need to have a Beer to complete it..
Truth!
Nah, stretch the fender if you're going to stretch the bags. Looks better.
I'll try to convince him
Want to make your cholo difficult to ride? Downed beach bars, not recommended for the tall guys but for the 5ft and 6 under guys - no problem.
Yeah I really like that look
I never tried the downed beach bars, so I'll take your word for it. Either way I'm sticking with the apes on this build. They just give such a nice profiled shape to these bikes.
It is difficult if you lower the bars. That is how I ride mine, cause I'm a short guy. When trying to turn at low speeds the bars tend to hit the rider's knees if you are tall, and when you ride at high speeds into a curve you just don't lean with the bike, you have to counter steer. Plus it gives the bike a more streamline profile look.
Who is doing your paint? Excited to see how it turns out!
You and me both. I'm going to send it to TIME WARP CUSTOM PAINT.
He does good work. I’ll be having Andy Kawahara do my king next winter. Just about have everything else done.
Thats good to know. I've been following his work for a little while now. Very talented guy
crash bar....get a bad ass crash bare and highway pegs to match floor boards ....... Im running '00 RK full build with Mikuni Carburetor............. Low-Low style is the way to go............West Coast Cali we got the most siccest bikes out ............ Ride Safe Brothers
39” for sure!
Good call
As a former colour technician. Basically black is either yellow or blue shade depending on the pigment used to manufacture it. Blue is rarer, 'cause its more expensive. Plus that's the effect of adding black to a blended colour, it'll either "yellow" the shade or "blue" it. So itself you don't really notice, the yellowing or bluing. So, there's some useless information for you!
That's interesting to know, thanks
Does putting a larger front wheel on alter the handling of the bike much ?
Only slightly at parking lot speeds. It's unnoticeable at regular road speeds
Makes a larger bike more nimble. If you go with a 23 and up, make sure your forks are raked properly, to handle better at higher speeds and avoid the death wobble.
I went with extended bags on eBay they were around 300$. They work great I also went with 39” fishtails. I couldn’t be happier!!! Actually $313.19 shipping was included.
The fishtail exhaust was 300 and some change? If so send a brother that Link
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Sams cool af .
Sam I have a decked out Road king. Get at me and get some ideas for a cholo road king
Wait what, Sam had COVID or just pulling chains? Hope not. Cool vid throwing ideas back and forth.
Have you thought about using Dave Perowitz for paint. A legend in the industry out of Boston.
Interesting, I'll look into that. I'd much rather ship 200 miles than 2500mi. Thanks Steve
His last name is actually Perewitz. He and his daughter Jody have Volgs on You Tube
I will definitely check that out, thanks for the info
CMC Motorsport has those mirrors. Circle with the hood. Talk to David the owner. Tell him iRocker C aka Danny sent you
Thanks Danny, I'll do that!
I think that he should definently consider lowering his rear. Its like a 40$ part from 1 to 3 inches. As well and an air ride off of ebay for his bike is like $250. Pretty much the same as a low to mid range set of shocks. I like what your doing. Keep it up.
Dude do you have a Facebook or some way for all of us to post pics
Yeah, of course. People send me pics/questions all the time.
John Tagley on Facebook
J.e.t.film on Instagram
Sam does suck though. 😂 Another great video, can’t wait to see all your new upgrades. Are you going with shotgun? Why are you against throwing some bags on your bike?
Hahaha my boy Sammy!!! Yes, shotgun shocks but I'm trying to keep it as a surprise. The bags I feel are hit or miss on a deluxe, and that they seem to cover the beauty of the "hardtail" look that the softails have. But on a Road King I think they look awesome
@@JETFILMCHANNEL I’m looking forward to your video on those shocks. I’ve been considering those for my 99 Heritage Classic. Do you know if you have to completely remove them every time you change your primary oil? That drain plug sits directly in the middle of the two stock shocks.
Thanks, yeah, I'll try to be very in-depth about the install. And it's the transmission oil that it blocks, primary is still available for easy changes.
What I'm seeing is 2 options...
1- remove the front half of the shocks and let them hang vertically while you access the trans drain plug.
2- pump out the old oil through the "fill" port using a small hose.
The mirrors you can get the long stem 4in from jp cycles , and visors from Amazon... do you have an email I have a question to shoot at you bro....
Thanks for the info.
Jetagley@gmail.com
Need updates on Sams bike?
Can't find his Instagram
CMC mirrors rounds with visors
Thank you, I'll check it out
What about cams guys? Andrews TW 555 or TW 777 (wink wink)
I talked about that later in the film. Cams are on the list for late winter. Can't wait
Cultura customs , or el Rey has the mirrors
That's what I'm talkin bout.
Sams bike wont take the rpm gauge but what would really set it off is finding a tank console for a 04 road king custom alot slimmer of a look
Interesting, I'll pass that along to him.
Vantablack is the blackest! Could be just a different name for the same color. I've only heard it called, vantablack.
Yeah, at 99% light absorption, I'm sure they're just about the same.
Look at weights and paints out of Buffalo Ny .
Son of Sam.
hey man you should buy some crown gas caps from road king mafia on Instagram
I respect it, but not really my style
@@JETFILMCHANNEL that's cool and I didn't mention it before but you're deluxe is pretty bad ass keep up the good work
DM me on IG i'll send you pictures of my Vivid black King with stretched bags and regular fender with a chrome accent at the bottom
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Motorcycle is nice. But it’s a vicla not a cholo.
YOUR BIKES ARE NOT PRACTICAL , IN A CANYON , THEY ARE SHOW BIKES FOR THE NEW BIKER ! THESE GUYS ARE WANNABES ! 👍😎
Then why do you keep watching my films? First of all, I don't know why you keep saying "canyons", as if everyone lives near a canyon. Second, thank you for calling it a show bike because that's what I built it to be. Third, I'm not a new biker. Fourth, wannabe? Seriously? Wannabe what? And finally, why would you even care in the first place? Just so you know, I just finished a 6 hour ride tonight, couple hundred miles only to look at my phone and see that you wrote this. It was a blast by the way. So practical or not, it makes me happy.
Can't wait to hear your response
HAVE A BLAST ON YOUR CHOLO BIKE ! THEY ARE NOT PRACTICAL ! CANYONS AN SHARP CORNERING ! ARE WHERE , YOU ACTUALLY LEARN TO RIDE ! IF YOU WANT TO DESIGN A BIKE , START WITH A BIKE , THAT IS FUNCTIONAL ! WHAT THE HELL IS CHOLO STYLE , EXPLAIN ? HAVE YOU EVER OWNED , A BIKE YOU CAN SPLIT TRAFFIC WITH ! PHYSICS TELLS YOU , HIGH BARS ARE NOT SAFE IN A TIRE BLOW OUT ! FAST STOP OR IN A CONJESTED SITUATION , WHERE YOU NEED TO TURN SHARPLY ! MOST MOTORCYCLE TRAINING COURSES WILL TELL YOU OF THE DANGEROUS SITUATION , YOU PUT , YOURSELF AN PASSENGER IN , RIDING A BIKE BUILT IN THIS MANNER ! I'VE BEEN , DOWN A FEW TIMES IN THE LAST 50 YEARS ! JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT ! IF YOU RIDE , YOU WILL GO DOWN ! ITS I
@@davidcrawford5711 smh
Had sport bikes, these are better. Don't like it, don't watch my films
I roll my Vicla through clear Lake through Lake Tahoe I keep right up with all the dynas no prob