White Lithium Grease vs. Dielectric Grease

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  • @scinsf
    @scinsf Před rokem +37

    Actually, dielectric is an insulator. Look up the definition....

  • @TheStaniG
    @TheStaniG Před rokem +16

    But di-electric grease IS an insulator....
    It only works good because putting plugs or lights back in pushes out the di-electric grease in between the contacts so electricity can flow but the rest of the contact is still protected from air and moisture by the grease.

  • @RobertMOdell
    @RobertMOdell Před 3 lety +42

    Dielectric grease does not conduct electricity. It seals surfaces against corrosion and prevents bonding between parts. The pressure of metal-to-metal connections is sufficient to push the grease out of the way to make contact and electric flow resulting in the connection being encased in grease, keeping water and corrosive elements away.

    • @slayerspam
      @slayerspam Před 2 lety +11

      Thank you. When electricians can be so confident that "dielectric grease is a conductor" it gets a guy feeling kinda down about his prospects for getting the right answer on anything just about anything.

  • @RayMosier
    @RayMosier Před 8 měsíci +17

    Maybe you misspoke? Dielectric does in fact mean "resistant to" electrical conductivity. Which is the same thing as saying insulator. I'm not saying it will prevent contact. I'm not even saying don't use it. I'm just pointing out that it is an insulator.

  • @UpInSmoke54
    @UpInSmoke54 Před 6 měsíci +13

    Do you know what dielectric means??

  • @herminigildojakosalem8664
    @herminigildojakosalem8664 Před 2 lety +10

    @3:05 Dielectric actually means having properties of an insulator. Who is the idiot there? He-he-he.

  • @mraaaaaaa
    @mraaaaaaa Před rokem +12

    Where's the actual comparison between the two greases? He just said he's used both. That's it.
    First half was the man ranting about how much experience he has and calling a man an idiot because he said dielectric grease is an insulator which IT IS (3:00).
    And the second half was basically again ramblings of whatever how many jobs he's done plus an infomercial of his own product.
    What's the purpose of this video?

  • @richman3111
    @richman3111 Před rokem +7

    According to the dictionary: dielectric = a medium or substance that transmits electric force without conduction; an insulator. In electromagnetism, a dielectric (or dielectric material or dielectric medium) is an electrical insulator that can be polarized by an applied electric field. When a dielectric material is placed in an electric field, electric charges do not flow through the material as they do in an electrical conductor.

  • @rigman031977
    @rigman031977 Před 6 lety +3

    The stuff in the green metal tube (DC-111) is one of the best silicon based compounds for electrical connections I have used. We bought it by the case in grease gun sized tubes for use in the oilfield on downhole 5/16 electric wireline operations. it held up in 150*C temperatures and to hydrostatic pressure rated from 10,000 - 15.000 psi.
    Its also an amazing ring sealant/lube.

  • @ranat5526
    @ranat5526 Před 4 lety +22

    Probably a task for Project Farm!

  • @Chris-xt1vf
    @Chris-xt1vf Před 3 lety +2

    I love that quick orchestra music at the beginning!

  • @robertmcmahan3840
    @robertmcmahan3840 Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you! I’m convinced that I got exactly what I hoped to get, which was confirmation that I can use white lithium inside an auto electric switch in the absence of dielectric grease.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před 4 lety +2

      You not only can, but some automotive manufacturers did this, which is often why you end up needing to redo their work. Frankly over the long term, you should just invest the $5 to use the best product. It is not like a manufacturer trying to shave off 2 cents in 10,000 different areas to save millions of dollars over the production life of a vehicle. Rather, your time saved in not having to do a job again and the peace of mind is worth the few extra pennies per application.
      PLUS, not all switches are created equal. Take a simple headlight dimmer switch for example, many use conductive traces to bias a transistor to vary the output and this heats up and will make standard (petroleum based) lithium grease thin, separate, and run out of the area of application.

  • @pdloder
    @pdloder Před 7 měsíci +12

    What I learnt in this 10 & a half minute video - the dude has done 40 to 50 thousand lights and doesn't like other people's opinions.
    That's it - you could have said that in half a minute and save me the other 10 for learning elsewhere.

  • @Itsme-vo4fx
    @Itsme-vo4fx Před rokem +4

    There are two important things when hiring someone for a job.
    1) Experience (number of years and how many jobs done).
    2) Willingness to do the job YOU want, not to do the job HE/SHE wants to do.

  • @harbitude
    @harbitude Před rokem +10

    dielectric, insulating material or a very poor conductor of electric current just saying , now that does not mean that dielectric grease will hurt the connection in any way.

    • @davidpowell3347
      @davidpowell3347 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Usually in a terminal connection metal to metal contact between asperities penetrates the "insulating material" ? The purpose of the insulating grease,oil or dielectric is to prevent air and moisture corrosion/oxidation of the metal contacts?

  • @villangmail
    @villangmail Před 6 lety +26

    I disagree with the argument from authority. I know its annoying, but its a logical fallacy. Expertise should make it easier for you to explain things, it is not some sort of permit to refuse questions.

  • @lineartechbd1600
    @lineartechbd1600 Před 4 lety +6

    Pretty much all grease has low conductance so technically, they can be used to stop moisture ingress. The reason they say to use silicone/dielectric grease is because unlike petroleum grease products, it won't eat away at plastic insulation. I have seen petroleum products like wd40 melt plastic over time. Silicone is also very good with heat so it makes the perfect grease for use with electrical connections.

  • @aztrav
    @aztrav Před 5 lety +5

    The term dielectric was coined by William Whewell (from dia- + electric) in response to a request from Michael Faraday.[5][6] A perfect dielectric is a material with zero electrical conductivity (cf. perfect conductor),[7] thus exhibiting only a displacement current; therefore it stores and returns electrical energy as if it were an ideal capacitor.

  • @erichandyauto
    @erichandyauto Před 2 lety +8

    1982 automotive school graduate here. I've witnessed that White lithium grease does turn to a hard dried mud after many many years making it difficult to remove old bulbs on old cars. Also, dielectric grease, or tune-up grease, is a silicone-based grease that repels moisture and protects electrical connections against corrosion. ... The grease does not conduct electricity, so it shouldn't be applied directly to the mating surfaces (pins and sockets) of an electrical connection. Only apply around the connection not where the metal connects to weather proof and to make easier dismantling in the future.

    • @philg4116
      @philg4116 Před rokem +1

      Open any car ignition switch and the contact surfaces are coated with dielectric grease because it keeps atmospheric reactants away from these surfaces. As another poster said, the grease somehow, amazingly, squeezes out at metal-to-metal pressure points allowing conduction. At the same time, it reduces the groove-forming wear of metal sliding on metal. You really can't put on too much, just like you can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor.

  • @nathanbunnell
    @nathanbunnell Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for the video and the info.

  • @kab5275
    @kab5275 Před 2 lety +6

    Bla bla bla. Went from a tech tip to a ramble and sales pitch. Can’t believe I listened this full video

  • @dennisrandall9698
    @dennisrandall9698 Před 3 lety +3

    I love that CRC bottle of dielectric grease on all my electrical contacts. I’ve redone a lot of fittings in my furnace. I used a light coat on all the contacts. I especially use this stuff on any dc connection in my truck. Works perfect and waterproofs.
    Your rationalization on lighting jobs and having someone tell you how to do your jobs reminds me of the public telling a cop how to do his job. I was an electrician for 8 years and now a cop. Great video!!

  • @charliechoo6324
    @charliechoo6324 Před 5 měsíci +3

    In my experience new college graduates automatically know more than those have experience. A supervisor told me about a skilled trade person tell him that he was ok because he knew how dumb he was. was mad then thought about it then starting it was meant as a compliment. He would listen and ask questions.

  • @fonzo2525
    @fonzo2525 Před 6 lety +34

    ahh,not for nothing,but you never touched upon the title of your video,which was about the differences between the 2 types of grease,which is why i watched the video,the on;y thing we learned is you seem to have done many lighting jobs and are fond of lawn lights,lol

  • @JaydonRose
    @JaydonRose Před 3 lety +3

    Dielectric grease is an insulator. This means Non-conductive... That's the definition of dielectric. It is great to prevent sticking in high heat or corrosive environments. Who am I... just a guy who took Automotive Electrical Repair at the Bill Shaw Vocational Technical School. That doesn't mean I know it all, but this is a common misconception that has plagued many people when the fill their plugs full of grease and can't figure out why they have intermittent electrical current or reduced current flow (HIGH Resistance) due to the grease preventing a good connection. It's meant to go on spark plug boots, and connector seals, not on the contacts directly... Hope This helps.

    • @PatTheRiot
      @PatTheRiot Před 3 lety +1

      Alright I got one for you, I already got all the greases and lubes out there, lithium, sili, multi, dry, name it. I'm changing a car battery today, do I need to go buy some dielectric grease too or I can just smudge a little white lithium topped with a spray on the connectors once im done? I use the stuff on all my metal moving parts exposed to rust and its doing amazing at it, whats the only downside other than its messy? All greases are I'd rather see the white stuff than smudge my hand in some vaseline lol. Basically im asking why go for dielectric if I got white lithium around?

    • @JaydonRose
      @JaydonRose Před 2 lety

      @@PatTheRiot Use the White lithium for sure if your just trying to prevent air and corrosion. Dielectric on the post or inside the clamp ( or side bolt, etc.) will reduce current and cause possible issues so I'd do just like you suggested.

  • @clarencementor4862
    @clarencementor4862 Před 6 lety +1

    Nothing beats experience. Thumbs up.

  • @besafe9
    @besafe9 Před 8 měsíci +3

    The NEC does not require Nolaox unless the manufacturer calls for it as part of the instructions. See 110.3b. 110.3b could also prohibit certain chemicals. For example, an anti-oxidant containing grit used on a conductor cannot be on the lug threads, since that prevents getting a reliable torque value.

  • @coryulrich6489
    @coryulrich6489 Před 2 lety +7

    How often do you think this guy actually went back to check his old work years later? It's kind of a weird concept for empirical testing, I did something but didn't check the results 90% of the time.
    I think we need to get project farm installed.

  • @stephenwest798
    @stephenwest798 Před 6 měsíci

    Had vehicles that came with white lithium grease and the bulbs seemed to last forever and have used dielectric grease for years with great success.

  • @chriss1227
    @chriss1227 Před 4 lety +3

    Dielectric grease can be used sparingly on connectors. Microscopically, the metals have pitting. The grease fills in those small valleys and the metal to metal contact will push the remaining grease away. Using large globs of it can possibly create resistance which stresses the power source. That's my understanding.

  • @leeisenberg
    @leeisenberg Před 6 lety

    Thanks for sharing sir. Been wondering if the spray white lithium grease would work, but the CRC is pretty thin stuff. I'll keep my eyes open for the thick stuff like yers. Take care from Tn.

  • @Mike-cd9cj
    @Mike-cd9cj Před 3 lety +2

    The guy you called an idiot was correct. The very definition of dielectric is it does NOT conduct electricity. 30 years wasted.

  • @human1513
    @human1513 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Dielectric means to be an insulator. Per all the dictionaries and electric sites I looked up. I have a controls and electric licenced & certified lifetime background.
    Silicone grease and dielectric grease are not the same.
    czcams.com/video/zzQn3L6LB_4/video.html

    • @boonecountygenerators3052
      @boonecountygenerators3052 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Yep. If Nate thinks dielectric grease is a conductor, he should maybe squeeze out a glob, set his multimeter to ohms and see if a current can pass through it.
      The fact that dielectric grease is an insulator allows its use as a moisture barrier in multi-pin connectors. If it was a conductor it would only cause shorts.

  • @spectralcodec
    @spectralcodec Před rokem +6

    I just tried to measure the resistance of some dielectric grease and it did not conduct.

  • @whirlwind8825
    @whirlwind8825 Před rokem

    In the 70s my brother had a Oldsmobile beater car and when it snowed or slush rain the car would not run or start. His friend sprayed white lithium grease on the wiring harness plug at the firewall.. This immediately stopped the harness from shorting out and the car ran like a top ...

  • @leeisenberg
    @leeisenberg Před 6 lety

    "Ideal" has had a product that is a dark grease they call "joint compound". It seems similar to Oxgard or NoOx, not sure but it may have some zinc in it.

  • @flaparoundfpv8632
    @flaparoundfpv8632 Před 2 lety +3

    This proves that experience does not equal technical knowledge.

  • @vintageeveryday2020
    @vintageeveryday2020 Před 5 lety +4

    You're a straight shooter, thank you! I've used White Lithium for decades too, mostly for machine electrical applications. Thanks again, Alex C. (FAA licenced aircraft mechanic (A&P), and Industrial Engineer.

  • @methylbenzodiazepine
    @methylbenzodiazepine Před 3 lety

    In 2008, i removed a relay from the engine bay of my 1990 Corolla. The terminals were coated in a mysterious grayish substance. I did not know what it was at the time but intuition told me it was to aid in corrosion resistance. I remember how beautiful the connections were, assuming that relay had been sitting there for 18 years exposed to the elements. White lithium grease is good stuff.

    • @PatTheRiot
      @PatTheRiot Před 3 lety

      hahahaha yesssss. When I see that whitish gooey on an old car I know the old owner knew what he was doing. I use it on every hinges and connectors now. I didn't even knew it was just as good as dielectric grease for connectors. Just a superb grease under the elements and extreme temperature changes, it will just stay there and never gets hard. Amazing stuff for moving car parts. Hell, another trick I used and was also approved by my mechanic, is when I do my seasonal wheel change, I coat all the brake parts (other than pads and disc) with a thin later of anti-seize silver that I brush off with a microfiber. By the end of the winter on the salt belt I have 0 buildup and the stuff barely washes off.Never had a problem from it. It never touches the friction parts its also highly metallic and conductive so it doesn't insulate the brakes that much. Good grease knowledge can help you keep a car a long long time.

  • @danpluso
    @danpluso Před 6 lety +35

    3:00 but I looked up "dielectric" and the definition is "a nonconducting substance; insulator", so... You tell me what it means.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před 4 lety +5

      It means that the grease itself does not conduct, not that it is a problem to use in a circuit where you have a mechanical/friction method where the metal contacts the mating piece and the grease is just there to seal out contamination by debris, moisture, oxygen, UV (sunlight), etc. The problem is that the guys who mention what a dielectric is, are suggesting that it interferes with a good connection when it does not unless you have some kinda of captive cavity where an extreme amount of grease was used, and that is never how an electrical connector is set up. It is always made to produce metal to metal contact without a gap, unless it is a terminal meant to be soldered on and even then, the least gap acceptable from an assembly time perspective, should be the target.

    • @alext8828
      @alext8828 Před 4 lety +16

      @@stinkycheese804 He said that some idiot thought a dielectric was an insulator. It is an insulator. He's the idiot.

    • @PatTheRiot
      @PatTheRiot Před 3 lety

      Basically it means it doesnt conduct electricity. Therefor it's great to insulate electrical connections with it. Because it protects from the elements and acts as a sleeve just like the rest of the wire. Satisfied?

    • @mraaaaaaa
      @mraaaaaaa Před rokem

      @@stinkycheese804 No matter how tight the metal-to-metal connection is, remember that the grease is a chemical compound and can penetrate microscopic gaps over time. The dude later says at 4:04 that he hasn't had a lot of problems with dielectric grease other than they get runny because they can't take much heat. When the grease penetrates the connection it introduces resistance. And the resistance makes the connection to heat up. Basically dude was ranting and later unknowingly proved himself wrong.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před rokem

      @@mraaaaaaa Not really true, the spring tension on the connection causes it to retain good electrical contact. Consider for example, vehicle spark plug wires, many of which the manufacturer puts a blob of silicone dielectric grease in from the factory, because the friction of the boot contact has no problem overcoming this even with the tip of the plug covered with it. Grease that seeps in, also seeps out under pressure. Dielectric only means the grease will not conduct from one terminal to another if there is a continuous amount of it between the two, it does not mean it necessarily causes any problems if applied directly to two mating connectors that have a wipe/pressure contact point, which is how practically any are designed. Keeping oxygen and water out, makes them more beneficial at this than suffering oxidation instead (air can creep anywhere that grease can), without having to use an expensive gold plating.

  • @geraldtakala1721
    @geraldtakala1721 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Motor cycle had gobs of white grease Which seemed to dry up Royal Enfield had a complaint about the bikes quitting running until these areas were cleaned out

  • @jonerlandson1956
    @jonerlandson1956 Před 3 lety +5

    it would have helped had you shown how you apply the dielectric grease to your fixture...

  • @The922766
    @The922766 Před 2 lety

    I have issues with hvac condenser disconnects (the stab in kind) do you think white lithium grease work on this?

  • @tenzackyogi1742
    @tenzackyogi1742 Před 2 lety +1

    I was looking for specific grease that use on steering column boots and rubber bushings. Lithium vs dielectric grease really confuse me.

  • @leeisenberg
    @leeisenberg Před 6 lety +2

    Use a toothbrush to apply this stuff & keep the brush nearby. The toothbrush will get saturated, & sometimes you don't need much anyway. Yes sir.

  • @ScottDukesRealEstate
    @ScottDukesRealEstate Před 5 lety +3

    Dielectric grease is an insulating product. It doesn't conduct. So this man is incorrect about those products. Vaseline does the same. However, it works because the connectors scrape off the grease to allow conduction. At the same time these products do keep air and water out. There are youtube videos to illustrate how these product do not conduct.

  • @tthams73
    @tthams73 Před rokem +1

    I love the CRC DEG

  • @carlcadogan4510
    @carlcadogan4510 Před rokem +2

    I am connecting batteries for solar and looking for longevity. Which grease should I use?

  • @shonevans2563
    @shonevans2563 Před 5 lety

    Could this be used on a electric battery charger port for a bike?
    I have corrosion I'm trying to get rid of . It is a lithium ion battery though .

  • @pollydor07
    @pollydor07 Před 6 lety

    THANKS

  • @n.mcneil4066
    @n.mcneil4066 Před 26 dny

    I've used Vaseline or a clear or translucent lithium grease on battery terminals since the 50's. In more recent years I've switched over to a silicon dielectric. I tend to avoid greases which contain a collodial dry lubricant such as graphite.MoS2, teflon, or talc as on the case of white lithium grease. The small particles of powder in suspension could create a resistance.

  • @johnrees44..G4EIJ
    @johnrees44..G4EIJ Před 4 lety

    Hi there.. I wonder if you could give me the benefit of your wealth of experience..
    I have a pool light, and the cable enters the bottom of the light and connects directly to the 12Volt halogen bulb..The connections would be in water if it were not for a grease like substance packed around the connections and contained within a small plastic cover..
    The 'grease' does not smell or look like auto grease..I have a clear close up photo if it's of benefit..
    My question is, do you have any idea what that substance might be, or what could be used in its place?..
    Thank you, and thank you for a great video.. John, Western Australia.

  • @bradeaton9589
    @bradeaton9589 Před 6 lety +1

    With a to-do list like Ray's, I'm guessing he must be the new guy

  • @moctezumaalava552
    @moctezumaalava552 Před rokem +1

    Hello.. so instead of use dielectric grease in the ignition coils cars can I use white lithium grease in spray or have to be the gel one. If yes!?.

  • @jeremylakenes6859
    @jeremylakenes6859 Před 6 lety

    What’s the difference between white lithium grease and other colored grease that says it’s lithium based?

  • @WILLY52368
    @WILLY52368 Před 2 lety

    Can I use White Lithium Grease on my motorcycle headlight Kit which is an aftermarket consisting of a fan to cool the bulb and is partially exposed behind the headlight fairing?

  • @Mr1989mustang
    @Mr1989mustang Před 5 lety

    You should link the items in the description

  • @cjumberger7489
    @cjumberger7489 Před 6 lety

    I used a spray in lithium grease on my motorcycle parts. That should work right?

  • @daviddowns7552
    @daviddowns7552 Před rokem +1

    dielectric is used in small amounts on cars electrical parts. white lithium is usually sprayed to resist moisture and corrosion and for hinges. am i right?? lucas is good. crc is too.

  • @personlikeu
    @personlikeu Před 5 lety +26

    My one takeaway from this video was to never use your business. Misinformation, ignorance and arrogance. No thanks.

    • @burtreynolds3143
      @burtreynolds3143 Před 5 lety +1

      mine too

    • @philjohnson796
      @philjohnson796 Před 4 lety +5

      For sure. He's like the charmless Scotty Kilmer of lighting.

    • @lezlethal
      @lezlethal Před 4 lety +3

      @@philjohnson796 That's an insult to Scotty. This guy is a know it all jerk.

  • @cheryls3224
    @cheryls3224 Před rokem +1

    Field serviceable is also beneficial to the environment.

  • @pristinelawnscapes8380

    With you on the CRC grease! Have the same can siting on my desk as I watch this video.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před 6 lety

      Huh? It's not any better than the other brands, just overpriced. Granted that container with the squeeze top can be worth a little extra money as smearing dielectric grease can get to be a mess since it doesn't wipe off as cleanly and takes a lot of hot detergent solution to wash off hands, fixtures, bulbs, etc.

    • @pristinelawnscapes8380
      @pristinelawnscapes8380 Před 6 lety +1

      Overpriced is a application-driven matter of opinion. In my case, I don't use a ton, and when I do, it's typically semi-precise applications where that nozzle is very useful.

  • @nikotbnr
    @nikotbnr Před 5 lety

    Can you use plain old lithium grease or does it have to be white lithium grease

  • @orbnitsky
    @orbnitsky Před 3 lety +2

    What DOES dielectric mean? Insulator
    That is not from an auto mechanic with experience, it is from a BS degree in Electronics Engineering Technology, experience with electronics from circa 1970 to present, many years working on manufacturing process data acquisition, control, computers, autos, radio, alarm systems, digital and analog, communications and networking. Believe me, many, many
    connectors.

    • @orbnitsky
      @orbnitsky Před 3 lety

      I however was looking for good materials to use and do not doubt your experience with white lithium grease and will likely keep some on hand.
      I realize we want to seal connection surfaces from moisture and air and what we want is something that will remain in its functional form as opposed to drying, cracking, powdering or whatever.
      Thank you for your post because it is insightful and has great experience behind it.
      I would warn against using a conductive substance that might eventually make a film between poles of electricity and cause "parasitic bleeding" that permits current to flow from the battery that is not used for practical work.

  • @markburrows1025
    @markburrows1025 Před 5 měsíci +2

    As a marine electrician I carry both Dielectric and the other type that conducts electricity. The nylox? brand slips my mind, but is available at Home Depot

    • @RicondaRacing
      @RicondaRacing Před 3 měsíci +1

      What's the other conductive grease?

  • @tomreyes4908
    @tomreyes4908 Před 2 lety

    I like using Burndy Penetrox Grease P8A Little expensive but good stuff.

  • @gerardbonus5354
    @gerardbonus5354 Před 6 lety +2

    Now I'm even more confused. I watched a vid earlier that said Dielectric Grease was an insulator and should be applied the rubber boots of spark plug leads and the ceramic sleeves of the plugs themselves to do two things; insulate to prevent over sparking to the body and as a grease to make taking the leads off easier.
    I've been told bulb grease is dielectric ~ meaning it does not conduct electricity, so it can be liberally applied to both the indicator bulb and the indicator bulb holder ~ to prevent corrosion [mine have corroded badly].
    Are you saying that I can use white lithium grease as dielectric or bulb grease. ? I also ask because a tube in Amazon dot com is some $7 but in Amazon Co UK it's suddenly £70 Seventy Pounds ??????

  • @FixItWithMe
    @FixItWithMe Před rokem +1

    What parts do u recommend putting the dielectric grease on? Only the wires? Or also on the o-rings, any screws/threaded connections? Thanks!

    • @whirlwind8825
      @whirlwind8825 Před rokem +2

      Make the electrical connection first then grease it to water proof it... dont grease pins or connections just clean them... The idea is the grease stops water and air from entering the connection so you apply grease to seals rings and the back of connectors where the wires enter

  • @gregorysomers2986
    @gregorysomers2986 Před 6 lety +1

    Good man. Thank you for the great video!

  • @choimdachoim9491
    @choimdachoim9491 Před 6 měsíci +1

    My problem with Lithium Grease: after cleaning the exposed door-latching mechanism on my 30 year old motor home I covered all exposed metal parts with Lithium Grease to prevent future rusting but within a few months noticed that rusting was accelerated instead of prevented. The thicker the grease, the greater the rusting.

    • @VitMcG
      @VitMcG Před 3 měsíci +2

      I think so too i sprayed on my car door hinge for greater good and it squeaks now

  • @stinkycheese804
    @stinkycheese804 Před 4 lety

    The problem with many dielectric greases is they are too low a viscosity, are meant for a light surface coating rather than void filling. Their lower solids to base silicone oil means that they do separate more easily than a more viscous silicone grease would.
    The problem with lithium grease is that it is not as temperature stable, will tend to melt and flow out of the area it is applied to if the connection creates a significant amount of heat. Granted, if you put these on a NEW installation and do it right, you aren't starting with heavily oxidized metal so there should not be much heat created, but the point is that the petroleum based lithium grease is not as good to use on already aged connections, unless you have the means to completely strip them down to a clean state again, which can be done with copper or brass but not with something nickle plated., then it is time to get a new connector if you want longest service life and grease performance.

  • @oldelpaso532
    @oldelpaso532 Před rokem +1

    Any desent wheel bearing grease will do

  • @pedrowalter
    @pedrowalter Před 6 lety +2

    As Wikipedia: Dielectric is an electrical insulator.

  • @g7schaff
    @g7schaff Před 6 lety +56

    This guy proves doing something for a long time doesn’t mean anything. Calling the guy that says dielectric is an insulator an idiot. Ha look up the definition of dielectric.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před 6 lety +6

      In this context, yes the guy is an idiot. What that idiot and you both don't understand is what the purpose is and when it becomes an insulator to the extent that it matters.
      It is not an insulator of the electrical connection which is one form or another of a friction contact that displaces the grease at the point of contact, which is exactly what you want in addition to sealing off the region around the fixture or bulb too.
      You have proven that you have not done it at all and don't know WTF the significance is in this context of electrical connections.

    • @JunkMailBoxStuff
      @JunkMailBoxStuff Před 6 lety +6

      A dielectric (or dielectric material) is an electrical insulator that can be polarized by an applied electric field. When a dielectric is placed in an electric field, electric charges do not flow through the material as they do in an electrical conductor but only slightly shift from their average equilibrium positions causing dielectric polarization. Because of dielectric polarization, positive charges are displaced in the direction of the field and negative charges shift in the opposite direction. This creates an internal electric field that reduces the overall field within the dielectric itself.
      If a dielectric is composed of weakly bonded molecules, those molecules not only become polarized, but also reorient so that their symmetry axes align to the field.
      Dielectric materials can be solids, liquids, or gases. In addition, a high vacuum can also be a useful, nearly lossless dielectric even though its relative dielectric constant is only unity.
      Solid dielectrics are perhaps the most commonly used dielectrics in electrical engineering, and many solids are very good insulators. Some examples include porcelain, glass, and most plastics. Air, nitrogen and sulfur hexafluoride are the three most commonly used gaseous dielectrics.

    • @travispratt6327
      @travispratt6327 Před 6 lety +5

      They’re idiots because people never explain to them, dielectric grease is an insulator, but it also improves the connection when on two metal surfaces because little protected, free from corrosion divots form within the grease that conduct electricity much better than an oxidized or otherwise unprotected connection surface. Dielectric means it can be polarized by electricity, which basically means it doesn’t conduct electricity but moves out of the way on a molecular level when electricity passes through it. If your contacts would conduct electricity as they are, dielectric grease can only improve that connection, and more importantly protect it from naturally degrading from use. When someone says “dielectric grease is an insulator” in the context of using it on connectors, they don’t know what they’re talking about, it would be like saying “wire shielding is an insulator so you shouldn’t use it to cover wires” ya it is an insulator, but to use that fact to claim you shouldn’t cover wires with it shows you don’t grasp how electricity works, not that anyone really does, we just know the effects.

    • @goldrat6088
      @goldrat6088 Před 6 lety

      g7schaff ii

    • @joewellindowd5664
      @joewellindowd5664 Před 5 lety

      Stinky Cheese 🧀

  • @henryhill3778
    @henryhill3778 Před 3 měsíci +1

    How do you know if it's night?

  • @Motorsportsgeek
    @Motorsportsgeek Před 6 lety +2

    I use conductive grease on the contact areas and di electric grease or silicone grease all around it, never have electrical issues and things seem to last way longer, even with the harsh winters we get here in canada.

    • @leeisenberg
      @leeisenberg Před 6 lety +1

      My thoughts exactly. Take care from Tn.

    • @alekmartin9999
      @alekmartin9999 Před 5 lety

      your answer is the best.. french people and Canadian people know what they are talking about.. :-)

  • @12Radius
    @12Radius Před rokem

    White grease for car battery post?? Thanks

  • @jefferykaighin7039
    @jefferykaighin7039 Před 2 lety

    You summed it all up when you said ... to "Prevent Moisture Migration"👍

  • @Pertamax7-HD
    @Pertamax7-HD Před 2 lety

    great and expensive grease

  • @Davesworld7
    @Davesworld7 Před 5 lety

    All dielectric materials can be insulators but become conductive when an electrical field is applied, not all insulators can be dielectric material however as electrons in dielectric materials are bound to the nucleus and thus possess very little movement. When external voltage is applied, the nucleus and the atoms get attracted to negative and positive sides respectively. Some insulators do not have this property to a meaningful degree which is why rubber and certain plastics are used as insulators only, capacitors have dielectric between the plates, coaxial cable depends on the dielectric properties between the conductor and the shield and thus have an impedance value that is designed into it by just this method.
    Jet fuel is used for it's dielectric qualities In the fuel quantity system on Jet aircraft, the fuel level probes of which there can be many throughout the fuel tanks, are just two plates (a small cylinder within a slightly larger cylinder with wires going to both plates just as any capacitor would have, with them fully submerged in jet fuel, the capacitance roughly doubles compared to the entire plates being dry (at least on some I have worked on in my Avionics career), this is purely because Jet Fuel is a much better dielectric than air. Xc (capacitive reactance) is used to take full advantage of this by applying a small amount of current to the probes (never enough to be an explosion hazard) making them act and measure like resistors. Xc is measured in ohms not farads obviously. Earlier systems used this capacitive reactance as a variable resistor leg in a bridge circuit and a servo motor driving an actual variable resistor to null the bridge and in doing so, moves the needle, calibration was needed periodically and mandatory when any part is changed, many a good tech was scared off when they heard of measuring in micro micro farads dubbed mickey mikes (non official term) and did not see the fact that they were merely dealing with a bridge circuit, a Wheatstone bridge to be exact. Modern jets have a computer that reads the change in Xc due to changes in dielectric as the fuel quality changes and then that gets sent to the displays via Graphics Generators where they are supposed to be seen.
    The moral of the story is that all dielectrics are insulators when not externally charged but not all insulators are dielectrics.

  • @robertglidewell9494
    @robertglidewell9494 Před 4 lety +2

    So... In conclusion, dielectric grease is not used on the electrical mating surfaces. It is applied to prevent voltage leaks by insulating the surrounding surfaces which is also why white lithium works just as well??? So which products would aid conductivity? Perhaps the same ones that prevent electrolysis between disimilar metals?

    • @MKasap-te8vm
      @MKasap-te8vm Před 2 lety

      maybe copper grease? I am not sure.

    • @robertglidewell9494
      @robertglidewell9494 Před 2 lety

      @@MKasap-te8vm idk either it has been so long... only know that 30 years ago the auto industry had you put it on and in your dist. cap as well as in the plug boots. If it "insulates" would that not mean it would necessarily be inhibitory in those applications?

  • @robertklein7679
    @robertklein7679 Před 5 lety +1

    I wonder why you sir have not responded to any comments, have you figured it out yet that Dielectric Grease is not a conductor nor is it an insulator the only purpose for it is to coat the metal so that it does not corrode either by water, air or to keep it from electrolysis with dissimilar metals to keep them from fusing together. That about covers it.

  • @type2523
    @type2523 Před 4 lety +2

    Dielectric means it’s a insulator , you like it or not that’s a fact (if you were careful on physics class you would know it )

  • @RepairRenovateRenew
    @RepairRenovateRenew Před rokem +2

    There IS an electrical connector grease made by Caig Labs in Poway, CA that comes embedded with copper. It is made with lithium as the base grease as well, but the real point here is, am i watching a comedy sketch? There is so much more to be said about specific greases and their applications...

  • @pepedrat2982
    @pepedrat2982 Před 6 lety

    Could I use copper grease, and fuck everything up?

  • @samlogosz8422
    @samlogosz8422 Před 5 lety

    I've used CRC dialectic greas on Auto and Household. Never had a problem. 😒

  • @djeppeson
    @djeppeson Před 4 lety +6

    Dielectric means nonconductive bud. Might want to get your 15 years back

  • @ukewarrior
    @ukewarrior Před 6 lety +1

    Nate, the Lighting Bible looks good, but $75 ! Seems a bit steep.

  • @shriramvenu
    @shriramvenu Před 6 lety +15

    A dielectric IS an insulator, but only for direct current. So that guy who you called an "idiot who doesn't know what dielectric means" wasn't necessarily wrong

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před 6 lety +2

      He doesn't know what he's talking about either way. Dielectric grease serves its insulating function only when it fills in an air gap that could otherwise get filled with water or debris. Otherwise, these are connectors with one form or another of clamping, screwing, etc, friction which displaces the lubricant from the electrical contact point to settle around it. It is not a parallel plate situation where a dielectric is meant to establish a field between the plates - context matters.
      What is relevant is the idiots out there try to claim it interferes with the electrical connection obviously having no experience whatsoever so they don't realize that it is, and has been, used successfully millions of times over the last several decades.

    • @cannabruh3396
      @cannabruh3396 Před 5 lety +2

      How would the grease pass alternating current?

    • @BurtonBoyz715
      @BurtonBoyz715 Před 5 lety +1

      Has anyone EVER used a battery pole wire brush set...removes lead oxide...for good contact...metal to metal...you assemble the clean halves...and PLACE grease..vasoline..DIELECTRIC Grease...WHATEVER...on top and all around... to prevent water and or moisture from getting to the clean metal.
      You could use silicon caulking if you had to...metal to metal is the goal....if that's not to mental...!I
      Good GRIEF !

    • @burtreynolds3143
      @burtreynolds3143 Před 5 lety

      @@cannabruh3396 AC is just alternating DC so it won't.
      Which is the point of it.

  • @victors8924
    @victors8924 Před 6 lety +38

    Why am I watching this video, 😒

    • @davidcolson5018
      @davidcolson5018 Před 4 lety +2

      To make your flashlight circuits waterproof.

    • @plaguex1
      @plaguex1 Před 3 lety

      Because you may need it someday. This works for vehicle applications too so...

    • @ripkingpin
      @ripkingpin Před 3 lety

      This is one of the funnest videos I have seen!
      It must be a joke - cocky arrogant grandpa with no university degree doing things wrong for 30+ years must be a joke, right?

    • @ahenseda
      @ahenseda Před 3 lety

      @@ripkingpin You watched it and did not gain a hair of knowledge!!! The joke is on you!!!

  • @WiekingderViking
    @WiekingderViking Před 5 měsíci

    I use Dow vacuum chamber silicone grease. Of course then you must make sure that your fingers do not touch parts that you are going to paint. This causes FISHEYES! Same with Pledge furniture spray. How do I know this????????aarrggggggg

  • @StefAdr
    @StefAdr Před 2 lety +1

    I am lost. Is White Lithium Grease conductive or not? I think I messed up using it on my motorcycle key and the immobilizer fuse burned. Please someone answer if you know!

    • @Pro1er
      @Pro1er Před rokem

      Lithium is a metal, don't use it where it can potentially short two wires.

  • @RoboRocker69
    @RoboRocker69 Před 3 lety +2

    I've used dielectric grease on the female 4 pin trailer connector on the back of my car including placing the cap over it and it still corroded in about a year's time. Ruined it. Got a new connector and I found this video trying to search for a different way. Why it corroded even with the grease on is beyond me.

    • @tyg7651
      @tyg7651 Před rokem

      I know you have to watch that some dielectric sealants do not contain acid. Not sure about grease though. Maybe it is because the connections were already dirty and corroding before hand?

  • @WellsLarry
    @WellsLarry Před 3 lety +2

    A dielectric is an insulator, a very poor carrier of electric current.

  • @kareno8634
    @kareno8634 Před 5 lety

    INFORMATION - Takes as much energy to Learn things right as it does wrong. You are Correct - Problem is - WHO\ What to trust!
    DEFINING \ INTERPRETING - if wrong, can cause a lifetime of 'Do Overs'

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 Před 6 měsíci

    Eather one is great I think

  • @AllFallBeforeMe
    @AllFallBeforeMe Před rokem +3

    What do I do if if i have a socket with oxidized connectors and i need the electricity to flow again in them? Can i just use any white lithium grease to get it working again? I can just use a paint brush and carefully coat the metal?

    • @pdloder
      @pdloder Před 7 měsíci +1

      I would probably use a battery terminal cleaner first to get rid of the corrosion - then a dielectric grease or battery terminal grease to prevent corrosion in the future.

  • @CMRinehart
    @CMRinehart Před 5 lety

    No question CRC is a great brand.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před 4 lety

      That mostly charges more for the same thing you can get cheaper elsewhere.

  • @martinschulz9381
    @martinschulz9381 Před 2 lety

    Right on. Be careful of the info of what you read/believe on blogs. If the advice could possibly cause harm, don't take a chance. use products as directed by their manufactures.

  • @remagairsoftllc
    @remagairsoftllc Před 5 lety

    Are there any odorless white lithium greases out there?

    • @PatTheRiot
      @PatTheRiot Před 3 lety

      Ive never smelled much white lithium and I have several cans and tubes of it?