Top 5 worst trading myths (crushing your profitability)

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @nev53
    @nev53 Před rokem +17

    'I don't care your average price, if something is over extended and the expected value is that it is going to go down, it makes no sense to hold a long. You need to always reflect, in this moment in time, if there's really good positive expected value I want to be holding, if there is really bad expected value I want to be out of it.'

  • @chrishahe5186
    @chrishahe5186 Před rokem +11

    A book that taught me this is “Thinking in Bets” by Annie duke. Amazing book that teaches positive/negative expected value

  • @THEDAYTRADINGDEMON
    @THEDAYTRADINGDEMON Před rokem +4

    There's just a lot of noise out there. Sit down, read charts, study, seat time, do it over and over and succeeding in the market won't be so hard. Good video all 5 myths are true and its super funny because you see all this misinformation everyday on the internet.

  • @Isaac.Rochester
    @Isaac.Rochester Před rokem +5

    You are a breath of fresh air, Lance. You are transparent, logical, wise, data-centric, and have depth beneath the words you say. I empathize deeply with your frustration with the misinformation and shallow content floating around the trading community. I have become extremely selective about who I listen to in pursuit of my trading goals this year, and you are on my shortlist.

  • @jsh111
    @jsh111 Před rokem +8

    I know exactly who Lance is talking about, and it's just sad. So happy you're fighting this misinformation Lance/ SMB

  • @jamespaul4618
    @jamespaul4618 Před rokem +2

    4:20 truncating profits = exit with small profits. 6:55 win rates and RRR. Success demands that you understand your probability of winning rather than fixing a specific RRR. 10:00 hold if expected value is positive. INTERESTING. 14:00 no days off. If markets are not showing setups then tape read in real time. Always seek to improve especially if you are in a slump.

  • @michaeltoma1023
    @michaeltoma1023 Před rokem +6

    Awesome stuff Lance. One that drives me nuts is when traders correlate their performance for the day to their P&L, or on losing days say 'the market just didn't cooperate'. OMG people!

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem +3

      So important not to be fooled by randomness and to judge day by quality of opp rather than by pnl!

  • @YyNRCyY
    @YyNRCyY Před rokem +2

    i actually read through that thread of that lady claiming no on makes 1 mil a year and saw countless reputable traders willing to put their money where the mouth is and she would just insta block them as well. BUT I LOVE SEEING LACE FIRED UP WITH SOME GOOD STUFF.!!!!!!

    • @Bravenheart_
      @Bravenheart_ Před rokem

      Lmao, this is why I don't trust online message boards and trading forums

  • @craigh5631
    @craigh5631 Před rokem +5

    Thanks Lance! Your example about never go broke taking profits resonates with me the sure! I am working on not hitting out to quick to to get profit instead of letting the trade show when to get out. Also would love to see some videos on the high 80-90% win rate on the intraday scalp trades. Thank you !!

  • @JenMarco
    @JenMarco Před rokem +3

    This was so important!! I wish you made this video in 2021 before I took in all this bad advice and had to learn the hard way.

  • @tobiashernandez1515
    @tobiashernandez1515 Před rokem +11

    Great Sunday trader church session Lance ! As a novice trader that embarked on my trading journey solo in self learning mode I really appreciate all the content you and SMB provide . This was a great video thats gunna help a lot of serious traders reach new plateaus including me .🙏

  • @AnthemDrums
    @AnthemDrums Před rokem +2

    One statement I hear alot that I disagree with, is the "low Time Frame, interday bars (ie: 5 min bars) are just noise." This came from a old futures Floor trader who recently passed (not trying to speak ill of him ). He was an absolutist about only trading the Daily/weekly/monthly charts and scoffed at low timeframe charts. He was successful, but I think he closed many people's minds off and didnt do anyone a service with his personal ethic. I like the mindset of another futures trader/scalper who states "all information the market provides, every tick of the day is useful information. There is no "noise" in the market." Great video Lance!

    • @jsh111
      @jsh111 Před rokem +1

      I know who this is as well. These people weren't able, or more likely weren't willing to put in the work to make it work for them and their enormous ego concludes it's just not possible. Meanwhile my mentor makes $10s of thousands a day in ES on fast tick charts (do not ask who, I will not reveal them)

    • @haneyguitarinstruction6260
      @haneyguitarinstruction6260 Před rokem +1

      Every tick in the market is carefully calibrated and measured. Just look for yourself.

  • @marklasky3555
    @marklasky3555 Před rokem +3

    One of your best Lance. So nuts and bolts + seeing you a little ticked off about some of these things drives home the points.

  • @yoshigolfer1512
    @yoshigolfer1512 Před rokem +1

    Market might not care about the average price but the average price does effect trader psychology in that trade. And that's not easy to overcome.

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem

      Yes, and that psychology leads traders to make AWFUL suboptimal decisions. Agreed, def not easy to overcome, but being aware of that bias helps us improve our decisions vs otherwise.

  • @timsweeney6832
    @timsweeney6832 Před rokem +11

    Thanks again for the extraordinary amount of free and accurate information that you guys provide us beginners.

  • @michaelski8951
    @michaelski8951 Před rokem +3

    Such a great video! Thank you Lance, Bella and SMB,

  • @totorina4353
    @totorina4353 Před rokem +2

    thanks a lot for posting

  • @ramsesp5009
    @ramsesp5009 Před rokem +6

    Thanks a lot for this SMB & Lance. This needed to be heared.

  • @jenBaker707
    @jenBaker707 Před rokem +3

    Thanks Lance
    I like to remember that if somebody is trying to make a living out of telling me how to trade, thats the big red flag to reverse that position.

  • @edwardrhoads7283
    @edwardrhoads7283 Před rokem +2

    Here is one I see a lot: wait for a red day to sell puts, and, wait for a green day to sell calls.
    Bad advice. Especially because you could get a weeks worth of green days or a weeks worth of red days and those shorted calls and puts now run you over.
    Another one: it is impossible for wheel strat to beat the S&P. There are always horrible straw man arguments for that. Sure if you try to do the wheel without doing your homework and trading like a robot you will do bad but if you put in the work...

  • @FoursideAssetManagement
    @FoursideAssetManagement Před rokem +2

    Thank you lance/smb. This is very helpful

  • @Brutustg
    @Brutustg Před rokem +1

    Thank you!

  • @KT-zx9jr
    @KT-zx9jr Před rokem +2

    Thanks n good clip Lance. For sure, when ppl make stmts, they have to properly qualify them to provide full meaning n understanding. Data is truth....

  • @TheBestLoserWins
    @TheBestLoserWins Před rokem +1

    The edge in position and swing trading is slower chart movement imo. More time to make the right decisions.

  • @NonAstrologer1
    @NonAstrologer1 Před rokem +3

    One stupid idea I've heard is to risk 100% of your daily stop, or go all-in, on every single trade regardless of setup quality. They reason that if the setup has edge, then you should maximize your bet in order to maximize your growth.

    • @timsweeney6832
      @timsweeney6832 Před rokem

      I can tell you from experience that doesn't work.

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem +2

      Would be in the running for stupidest ideas of all time haha

    • @gomesdiogo
      @gomesdiogo Před rokem

      this is why I strongly recommend every trader specially beginners to play with equity simulator apps, you quickly realize that you need to use small stop losses to let space for your edge to appear, losses in a row are normal, common thing in our craft, if you are not ready to have them and deal with them, you're done

  • @GarryI449
    @GarryI449 Před rokem +2

    Great info as usual SMB and Lance…

  • @BeardOvBorgia
    @BeardOvBorgia Před rokem +2

    Great stuff

  • @razzy1476
    @razzy1476 Před rokem +1

    I’m with You Lance !
    News ..price action ..and the Tape is King!!

  • @rgTORO_grOSO
    @rgTORO_grOSO Před rokem +2

    WELL SAID!!!

  • @jaysoegaard
    @jaysoegaard Před rokem +2

    Thanks, Lance. I really need to work on capitalizing larger gains on my positions..I usually sell too early and start reducing my position sizes when they hit 4 percent 8 percent 15 to 20 percent and then leave a little left for the rest of the ride. I've gotten better at understanding how free float effects a potential squeeze and how important volume inflow rate is on news among other variables.
    I keep calling out all these 100-plus percent gainers when they are in the 20 to 40 percent zone but like always I sell too early.

  • @anibaltorres6308
    @anibaltorres6308 Před rokem +1

    ty lance

  • @Vemrah
    @Vemrah Před rokem +1

    lancelot of trading! Thanks for your time

  • @chilatelover
    @chilatelover Před rokem +1

    Head spinning stuff. Thank you Lance and SMB

  • @gregstewart8281
    @gregstewart8281 Před rokem +1

    My favorite old-time trader saying " Never confused brains for a bull market"

  • @TradesbyJayC
    @TradesbyJayC Před rokem

    You are the last piece of my puzzle Lance. I did pass my assessment fast by dissecting your videos in the whole internet. Thank you so much.

  • @johnandino3170
    @johnandino3170 Před rokem +2

    thank you for the great information

  • @dhavalchapani6827
    @dhavalchapani6827 Před rokem +1

    last one is my favorite, like how u have explaine

  • @jayharrison3661
    @jayharrison3661 Před rokem +1

    Thanks

  • @derekwfrazier
    @derekwfrazier Před rokem +2

    Expected value determination

  • @terrykunath7037
    @terrykunath7037 Před rokem +1

    Great video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @marcushampton2075
    @marcushampton2075 Před rokem +1

    Totally agree. From experience.

  • @JensKlattTrading
    @JensKlattTrading Před rokem +1

    What drives me nuts? "Always risk 1% of your Trading Capital in each trade." Why should I do that If I'm holding the nuts (to stay in Poker lingo)?

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem +1

      Lol! Totally agree. That one also drives me crazy all the time. Hence my exponential bet sizing video.

  • @petedonoghue1811
    @petedonoghue1811 Před rokem +1

    Solid advice I’d not heard before, thanks

  • @aymnsaif392
    @aymnsaif392 Před rokem +1

    Thank you one love bro❤

  • @GodDamnit7711
    @GodDamnit7711 Před rokem +2

    If scale is part of a swing traders edge in making huge profits, then it is the biggest edge.

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem

      Edge as used here is defined as expectancy. Scale does not change the expected value of a play, simply how much money can be bet on the play.

  • @joefeinstein6804
    @joefeinstein6804 Před rokem

    These truths require a deeper understanding of math and sales statistics. Great stuff.

  • @BretWickstrom
    @BretWickstrom Před rokem +1

    THANK YOU!!!

  • @whoaitstiger
    @whoaitstiger Před rokem +2

    The average price fallacy might well be _the_ single most important concept in trading and investing.

  • @ryansm3417
    @ryansm3417 Před rokem +1

    I thought for sure that you would include the one where a trader should call it a day if they are green after a trade or two, so that they don't give back their profits. This is usually espoused by youtubers who are trying to promote the trader lifestyle to reel people in...where you "aren't staring at a screen all day," and can "spend the rest of your day doing whatever you want" etc. Although they don't understand that they're basically implying that the profits you made were just luck, if you should cut and run once you're green. If you have an edge, you should go as long as you can keep up discipline and not succumb to fatigue. It's not like you hear of casinos deciding to shut down early once they've taken in some profits.

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem +2

      Lol! That one does actually drive me nuts too. Will need to use for the next edition 😂

  • @3lions9
    @3lions9 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for sharing, always bringing great information

  • @jamiesto
    @jamiesto Před rokem +1

    Really great clip.

  • @jfilbert
    @jfilbert Před rokem

    I guess SMB is somehow making bank by arbing out this inside info so, er, _props_ to them for finding even yet more edge, but it's really a new era when something like this is free to watch on CZcams. As a dinky retail guy it's just gold. Loved the poker analogy--perfect!

  • @NonAstrologer1
    @NonAstrologer1 Před rokem +3

    Lance, one topic I'm sure a lot of us would love to see you cover is different methods of bet sizing. I've seen your bet sizing video but do most pro traders you work with use that method or are there other valid methods to consider? I am trying out different bet sizing methods but find myself gravitating towards the method described in your video due to its simplicity.

    • @smbcapital
      @smbcapital  Před rokem +2

      maybe you need a better system to identify the setup before you jump in so you can size accordingly. If you know a trade you're entering is not an A++ setup and rather at sold B trade then you should have some calculator which can help determine the appropriate size

  • @simonhuber6859
    @simonhuber6859 Před rokem

    I have a question:
    I wondered what
    your premarket routine is? Is it just looking for stocks that run well, or how do you spend your time in premarket, to be properly prepared for the trading day? I always struggle with that. Thanks!

  • @yoginacharya2150
    @yoginacharya2150 Před rokem +3

    Great video as always Lance and team SMB.👏🙏

  • @jasondillon2567
    @jasondillon2567 Před rokem +1

    Thank you Lance!

  • @lifeasweknowit2537
    @lifeasweknowit2537 Před rokem +4

    Quality content here. Thank you for the insight and helping us normies filter out the junk.

  • @narinhbounchareun7091
    @narinhbounchareun7091 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you Lance!! Your vast knowledge and honesty is very much appreciated! Absolutely gratefully for you and SMB for taking some of your valuable time and effort to help and share.

  • @CSaenz44
    @CSaenz44 Před rokem +1

    Thank you lance for sharing valuable information and destroying these myths very important to the community we appreciate you

  • @davidedmundson8402
    @davidedmundson8402 Před rokem +1

    Excellent as usual.
    On the topic of average price, too many people treat their unrealized gains as the "house's money" and aren't diligent about risk control. I ask them "If you are down on a trade, do you think of the loss as the house's loss"?
    Unrealized gains are your money. Does it make sense to risk those gains going forward on the trade?

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem

      Yes!!! Exactly that point.

    • @William.-.
      @William.-. Před rokem

      Is this in relation to averaging in both in a up trend and down trend?

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem

      @@William.-. relevant to any play

  • @georgemcduffey2622
    @georgemcduffey2622 Před rokem +1

    My biggest pet-peeve is edge-bigotry. There's a big difference between constructive criticism/advice/tips and telling someone they're just flat out wrong for the way they do something. Too many traders who're successful at one strategy saying other strategies (which they probably tried and weren't good at) are worthless. Intraday vs. Swing, Quant vs. Discretionary, Options vs. Equities vs. Commodities vs. FX, Growth vs. Value, Short vs. Long, VWAP vs. Volume Profile, Clean Chart vs. Messy Chart, etc...I'm a firm believer if you find a way to make money in this game, no matter the strategy: do it (and learn to do it better). And if you can find several strategies that work for you, go balls deep in all of 'em. To hell with the Karate Kid wannabe who tells you your plan is "unprofessional" and "gambling" which makes you second-guess yourself ultimately leading to you missing a chunk of a 3X move in UPST (not to be overly specific or anything).

    • @cameronjohn604
      @cameronjohn604 Před rokem +1

      Well said. There's certainly more than one way to skin the markets.

  • @radimfrancisco
    @radimfrancisco Před 9 měsíci

    Question: Being consistent is important, but when do you know that your playbook needs to change because it's a different market? Another words, do i take week of loses for the sake of consistency or do i adjust my playbook for a new market?

  • @cameronjohn604
    @cameronjohn604 Před rokem +2

    This question may be applicable to our current environment...
    How about the age old phrase, "Don't fight the FED."
    The reason why I'm asking is that sometimes it seems people are wanting to fight the FED left right and center.
    At the same time, telling the FED how wrong and dumb they are whilst yolo'ing into tech stocks hand over fist.
    Just curious.
    Thank you Lance, you're awesome man

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem

      Depends the time frame and strategies you’re doing. Big picture timeframe, for investors I understand the point being made by that saying. Less relevant for stocks and strategies that aren’t fed dependent.

  • @praveenkumarsoma202
    @praveenkumarsoma202 Před rokem +2

    Lance, Could you please cover on stoploss myth for intraday? My SL always hitting on my edge trades , it seems like somebody looking my SL order, then it become wick bounce on EMA, VWAP, Pivot points

    • @haneyguitarinstruction6260
      @haneyguitarinstruction6260 Před rokem

      That probably means your not patient enough to wait for the best entry and or chasing prices. Your entry should be where your stop will be. Don't be the first mouse because the second mouse gets the cheese

    • @smbcapital
      @smbcapital  Před rokem

      many traders put their stop loss just beyond what they think the actual stop loss should be. slightly more room for the trade to work.

  • @scottmanzo5
    @scottmanzo5 Před rokem

    Excellent video Lance-especially clearly breaking down day trading versus swing trading and the win rates/size constraints advatanges and disadvanteges of the 2 strategies

  • @joshuatan9002
    @joshuatan9002 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the videos!

  • @jccarvajal8053
    @jccarvajal8053 Před 2 měsíci

    Pure gold!!!! thanks a lot!

  • @chr971
    @chr971 Před rokem +1

    Be careful guys, Lance is pissed! Haha thanks for the great video.

  • @alexanderthegreat_CarGuy

    You are so awesome! Love your personality bro!!

  • @NamanDineshJoshi
    @NamanDineshJoshi Před rokem +2

    Trading myth that I get to hear frequently from amateur traders is that one can accurately predict the reversals using the overbought and oversold indicators and oscillators while in reality more often than not, the stocks keep on going up in-spite of being in overbought region on indicator and vice versa, isn't it Lance?

  • @_N0_0ne
    @_N0_0ne Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you

  • @snarlysausage4604
    @snarlysausage4604 Před 7 měsíci

    SO tTRUE, I struggle taking taking profit early & not collecting full potential profit and it really messes up my overall RR

  • @ZephyrosSD
    @ZephyrosSD Před rokem

    Very very goooood. Hats off to you sir

  • @genice7546
    @genice7546 Před rokem

    So Lance...at 11:51 you mention risk-free arbitrage trades with near 100 percent win rates. Do you cover these in a previous video? If not, would sure love to see one. Thanks for another great video!

  • @FXTrader247
    @FXTrader247 Před rokem

    This drives me absolutely nuts. Not just in trading but in general. Too many are naive

  • @nd-kay
    @nd-kay Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks very much! 😊

  • @GodDamnit7711
    @GodDamnit7711 Před rokem +2

    I need to dispel one of his myths. Cutting losses quickly is absolutely a good thing.

  • @pavel1844
    @pavel1844 Před rokem

    From my experience I can say that swing trading is more efficient and profitable than day trading in a TREND market if you take into account the effort/results ratio.

  • @user-hb3nw4ow4n
    @user-hb3nw4ow4n Před 6 měsíci

    Nice job Lance!

  • @SR-gd7vt
    @SR-gd7vt Před 7 měsíci

    he's fired up and rightfully so

  • @msn-hn9eb
    @msn-hn9eb Před rokem

    Man that you can't go broke taking profits has always driven me crazy!

  • @Skully023
    @Skully023 Před rokem

    SMB, what affects does the CBDC have on traders and regulations in regards to forex, options and futures.

  • @yukigawa3163
    @yukigawa3163 Před rokem

    Anytime people quote warren buffet for on a volatile stock that's being traded. All these 'traders' become bag holders with their diamond hands. Keep your risk managed.

  • @ironhed515
    @ironhed515 Před rokem

    Swing trading is where there is the most edge for ME and my strengths, that's all I ultimately care about.

  • @hakoHiyo271
    @hakoHiyo271 Před 3 měsíci

    Yeah, can't go broke taking profits, irritate me the heck out of it too

  • @ada7831
    @ada7831 Před rokem

    I’m not profitable trader because my Day trades harm my Swing trades! Not give up but i can’t cope with emotional fluctuations that day trades offer!

  • @__aryantomar
    @__aryantomar Před rokem +1

    Needed this 🔥

  • @Fenix_Trader
    @Fenix_Trader Před rokem +1

    Heheh ...I liked this! Thank you 🙏

  • @jesseanderton2
    @jesseanderton2 Před rokem

    I see price action and technicals trump fundamentals every day

  • @Number01850
    @Number01850 Před rokem

    It's very true

  • @andrewguizar555
    @andrewguizar555 Před rokem

    I'm an SMB addict.

  • @nitrosrt4
    @nitrosrt4 Před rokem

    theres a guy here on youtube that made a very unique trading platform, i been watching for a while and this thing is insanely accurate, but the guy swears up and down any other form of trading is trash, TA is trash, blah blah, noone else does this thing or that thing, proof, etc.(meanwhile this program is another form of TA). i prefer TA to other types, simple MA for context and just read candles, some basic trend lines, more often than not my basic TA lines up with this program, the difference is knowing whats gonna happen at the "line", the program speaks for itself but the weird trash talking just doesnt make sense, theres 1000 ways to do this thing. something else the furu's say is you can do this now, learning time is irrelevant, meanwhile most all these "teachers" are at least 5-10 years into their journey towards being comfortable. if a everyday wage tradie takes 10k hours(5 years) to be a pro, i'd expect the most competitive way to make money to be even harder/take longer.

  • @gooney0
    @gooney0 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video. Most advice is bad advice.

  • @TheBlackJackPlayer
    @TheBlackJackPlayer Před rokem +1

    Lance! There is a reason why the trading community lives in ignorance. If traders get more sophisticated then edge will dwindle. Profitable traders do not have a vested interested in enlightening everybody

    • @cameronjohn604
      @cameronjohn604 Před rokem +1

      This is likely a fallacy.
      Have you met most people? And would you describe the average human being as being "sophisticated?"
      Are you suggesting my 98 year old grandmother is going to start throwing down on some triple inverse underhanded broken butterfly options spread?
      Highly unlikely.
      With all due respect MrX

    • @smbcapital
      @smbcapital  Před rokem

      @@cameronjohn604 haha would love to see that!

    • @smbcapital
      @smbcapital  Před rokem

      most people aren't willing to put in the work though

    • @TheBlackJackPlayer
      @TheBlackJackPlayer Před rokem

      @smbcapital @herotrades2776 If I sit at a poker table and i see that 3 guys always play nervously with their chips, if they have a strong hand. How much money do you think I can make after I point that out?

    • @TheBlackJackPlayer
      @TheBlackJackPlayer Před rokem

      Most people arent willing to put in the work though. That is true. But would I give someone a gun and let him shoot me, just because most people cant shoot?

  • @adamhatcher1890
    @adamhatcher1890 Před rokem

    Reading the tape - Do the “free” brokerage firms give enough data to read the tape or is this information something that retail needs to pay for in order to obtain a more complete picture?

    • @TheOneLanceB
      @TheOneLanceB Před rokem +1

      Ideally you need “level 2 with depth of book” populated w as many venues as possible and a “time & sales” window

    • @jsh111
      @jsh111 Před rokem

      I know successful traders that just use the tape, but in key locations on the chart

    • @jsh111
      @jsh111 Před rokem

      TOS tape is delayed, slow and garbage though IMO

  • @yj677
    @yj677 Před rokem

    one of my fav youtubers always says u cant make money trading markets. hes a longterm investor so i get it but come on. 🤣

  • @umair146
    @umair146 Před rokem +1

  • @TiffanyT-LaDolceVita
    @TiffanyT-LaDolceVita Před rokem

    “Trading is like gambling!” That’s what I hear all the time. Drives me nuts. Lol

    • @msn-hn9eb
      @msn-hn9eb Před rokem +1

      It is gambling. Done rightly it's professional gambling.

  • @paulforsell5197
    @paulforsell5197 Před 2 měsíci

    Technical analysis is overrated . I dont use it. I don’t use vwap lol . I’ve won 19 straight sessions

  • @hawker358
    @hawker358 Před rokem

    "Can't go broke taking profits and cutting losses quickly" = a trader who can't hold to target because they get shaken out of good trades.

    • @haneyguitarinstruction6260
      @haneyguitarinstruction6260 Před rokem

      That's my biggest weakness. That cost me 28R last month just setting my trades and walking away. I am the problem