Amp/Cab Sim and Pre-amps - Does Signal Chain Matter?
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- čas přidán 17. 09. 2020
- Today Im experimenting. Going into this video I didn't know 100% what I was going to find. I've been burned in the past thinking I know what Im talking about only to find my experiments proving me wrong.
Today we are testing out a few things:
1. Is an Amp/Cab Sim better in front of your pedals, after dry effects or at the very end of your chain?
2. Does having a pre-amp paired with your cab sim make a positive difference?
3. Can a video on Amp/Cab sim signal chain actually be useful?
Im not going to tell you my opinions, but rather will let you make up your mind based on the audio.
Im mainly on the neck pickup but switch back and forth a bit. Check out the bottom left of the screen if you're curious where its at.
Comment below with thoughts and questions!
love the video, explanation, and the sound sample you made. just what i need
yo this is highly informative. thank you very much
Just came to thank you for your article. Ampless boards were just meh for me until you suggested a preamp pedal. After I added that I was all in. Total game changer. Thanks for sharing your insights. Much appreciated.
That overdrive to preamp to amp sim tone is amazing
Excellent video and very well explained...
Thank you for this video!!! 🙌🏽
very helpful thanks!
This is timely: I just recently put my wet effects after my amp sim. I really thought I couldn’t- that I would need a speaker sim (or something) after the effects. It sounds great and now I’m really exploring stereo for the first time so the lesson here is- don’t be afraid to experiment. Would have loved to see this video about three months ago. 😘
Best video!
Putting wet effects after the iridium or any sim is basically the same as studio sound. Also I feel like running them into an amp there’s always going to be a form of compression, but having them after the amp it actually opens up more and you don’t have to use as much. It’s almost like driving up a large elevation like a mountain and popping your ears. You go oh I didn’t know I was missing this many frequencies.
I tried both wet fx before and after Iridium. I ended up putting wet (delay and verb) after Iridium. I feel like it acts somewhat like an FX loop on an amp. One thing I’ve noticed is that my reverb doesn’t get super washed out on some settings I have. I typically run a decent amount of verb and running the verb after the Iridium adds a little more focus on the verb. I personally liked it. Just have to work a little extra to get that washed out vibe I like sometimes. It is very true about clipping the wet FX though. I noticed as soon as I turned on verb my interface would start clipping because the Iridium acted as a boost into the verb and delay. Just takes some time to tweak and get it just right.
Thank you!
Interesting video. However in most live situations you would need to have XLR out (D. I.) to go from your gear to a mixing board. In that case usually cab sims have XLR out as opposed to reverb/delay effects. What do you recommend in thst case? Getting a di box or having cab sim at the end?
Great info! Do you put the amp sim before or after the bass interfacer?
Thanks for this video. I run the Iridium with stereo inputs and would be keen to try a preamp in front. Kingsley's Squire is a great option, alas only mono. What would you recommend in terms of stereo preamps for such application? Thanks.
Would be interesting to see the difference with wet effects placement if actually using amp gain a bit more, or boosting the amp sim significantly from the OD’s.
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The main reason I run my amp sim (Iridium) last in my chain is that I can choose to turn it off and run into a traditional amp and get the same results from my effects. This way I don't need to have different wet effects levels depending on if I am using the Iridium or my Matchless, everything reacts quite similar and it's a seamless transition. Something for people to keep in mind if they are going back and forth between modelling and traditional amps.
Any recommendations on the best pre-amp to get to put before the UA Ruby? The Ruby is in the middle of my chain.
Any thoughts on the DSM Humboldt/Noisemaker Simplifier Amp and Cab Sim? It has the built-in effects loop which seems to solve alot of the problems with where to put your wet effects.