I took a train for the 1st time last summer from Baltimore to Alabama I thought it was going to be miserable 20 something hours but not gonna lie I loved it
@@nbitsme1629 I went from Northern California to Southern California. I was on the train 21 hours and I swear the next time I ride a train itâll be in Europe or Asian and itâll be high speed. That particular trip is for me a two hour drive to the airport and then an hour and 15 minute flight.
You want to share because I can't really see the want to take a train I mean didn't we just have a virus everyone was afraid of who wanted to take the train????
â@@mattlane2282a packed train may not be ideal in the case of a pandemic, but most places you would want to take the train to, aren't either. The train is, however, a reasonably reliable way to get places with little effort, you can even read or get work done while on the go. Also, trains are great for people who cannot drive at all, like me
@@christafranken9170 Flu, common cold, etc... it is never ideal. it also can not pay for itself and needs to be subsidized... it is a failed project from the start.
We also say the DB has 5 enemies: the 4 seasons and passengers! But still one of the best in the world. Of course, no comparison with Japan and Switzerland.
@@arnodobler1096 âItâs cold in winter and there is snow????!!!! Who would have thought that????â âFor Summerheat we need to cold our engines and maybe the passenger sections??? Haha good jokeâ âspring and autumn have much rain and we should check the trees next to the tracks? Sounds like an unimportant job letâs do that next yearâ âWho will go anywhere between 6:00-9:00 or 16:00-19:00 ??? We will use the smaller trainsâ DB every day/year
@@LittleMaitea especially the last one is infuriating on village train tracks. like wtf are they thinking? it isn't like the goverment wants that the children go by train and not by car. so why is there a train for 40 children if there should be one for 200? no wonder 70% of them get driven by car
Trains in the US often get delayed by an entire day because the businesses using the shared tracks get priority and can screw over passenger trains with their shenanigans and inefficiency as much as they want
Haha it's not efficient. The *one* thing about german trains is, that they're always late, maybe so late you miss your following train. And with a highspeed train for it to be pleasant you need to reserve a seat for it to pleasant, otherwise you might have to stand. Also I think it's really expensive in general, it should cost less so it's available for everybody. If you think that's good, how bad is it in the US?đ
@@Artemis_-yy1nt Ah yes, thank god for the country of âthe tristate area,â itâs pretty good with public transport. Although I wouldnât say itâs the most pleasant.
it may be pleasant but it is extremely expensive, very limited in rural areas and most often late or cancelled. German public transport need a lot of work.
I went to Scotland on my honeymoon and we just used trains the whole time. It was a really cool experience. You can nap and snacks and tea are brought around. There were lots of families with little ones that would sleep peacefully in their parents laps or would climb around. I wish we had more of those in the US
meanwhile all the other German content creators absolutely roastin DB for the terrible delays and platform switches....(still better than slot of places I kno.)
Okay yes, public transport is great but not in Germany. I'm German. Yes you can get on a high speed train, they're usually on time, but you have to book a seat or you might have to stand for 6 h, it is expensive, if you get the cheap ticket and you miss your train (bc they randomly changed the platform last minute or whatever) you can't take the next one and then you have to buy a new ticket. I regularly spend more than 200⏠per ticket for a 4-6 h ride. Really, there's a lot of work we have to do to improve public transportation in Germany. I get it's better than in the US but it's the bare minimum. Don't even get me started on having to get to work by train every day. Just putting this here because most Germans really hate Deutsche Bahn and for a reason
âđŒall that! Erfurt to Munich with the speedy train is 75⏠Pp. So for 2 adults 2 ways, that is 300âŹ. And DB is always late, changes the trains and you canât find your seats anymore.
I live in Italy and get to work by bus. They go on "sciopero" every other week. I got one week with two of them. And... The Christmas holidays were wild (because no high school students needed to take the bus): I've stayed 1,5-2h on the bus stop multiple times. Then the school started and it got back to normal. And they have another "sciopero" next Friday. God, I hate it so much
Ever tried the dutch system? you just show up whenever you think you're disheveled enough to go thru the process and you take the train, tram, bus, metro, all with 1 and the same card over the whole country. Train, you check in with the OV-Chipcard or bank pass (not sure if non-dutch bank cards will work) at the trainstation you enter, and out at the station you need to go (no in between, if you need to step over 3x, no in and out checking, its paid for from entrance to exit calculation) once you exit. Trams and buses are when you board/unboard them. You can order tickets / month passes for a specific start/end point for work etc. on OV-Chipcard. But everything goes regular, every 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 min or hour or w/e, you just show up and board when that is convenient for you.
75? That's incredibly low.... But I love travelling by train too, it is like being chauffeured around and you are not completely exhausted when you arrive at your destination.
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I went from the Netherlands to Poland by train, mostly high speed. 9 hours, around 125 euros I think for 2nd class. I booked first class to get more work done but was not really needed f money was an issue
â@@nayelik5504 one Week in advance could still be very expensive. Really depends on where you going. And then it s always a gamble if you actually arrive. Gotta love the Deutsche Bahn.
Having to wear your mask for hours in a heated up train thats so full you can't even sit down and has no air conditioning is much more exhausting than any car ride on German roads
Trains are quite wonderful, only really bad is that here in Sweden they normally cost twice as much as the same bus trip. If you are really lucky, you can pay 8 Euro from my town to Gothenburg, ive seldom seen train tickets go for less than 15 Euro for the same trip. Edit: Decided to check the price differences between a bus and a train from where I live to Stockholm. Cheapest train was over 30 Euro, cheapest bus was 17 Euro. Most expensive train ticket was 110 Euro, that's for second class. Edit2: almost forgot, the price check was for a trip around one week in advance. Needless to say, the further in advance you book, the cheaper it tends to get.
I'm afraid it's not that great in Germany either. It may be fast to take a direct express train from main station to main station e.g. from Cologne to Berlin. But the whole journay usually has way more steps than that. Besides, booking trains spontaneously is very expensive.
For Fridays and Sundays it usually is, yes. But if you can travel on a week day or a Saturday, you can mostly still get relatively cheap tickets even on a short notice. Of course, if you book the same day or the evening before, it will always be kinda expensive.
75 for a train... you have no idea in my city in North America a train raid is over 200 dollars and takes over a few days to make it over 500 km. there's
Iâve taken a train one time in my life, from in south central PA in to Baltimore Maryland with my uncle and cousins for a day trip to the aquarium. Best day of my life.
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We have an urban express train now in Utah. Makes perfect sense, since most of the population lives in a string shaped area. Took a while, but people love it now.
If I had this in the US, I'd go visit family a lot more often. My sister lives about 10-11 hours by car from me and its either drive that ($300-400 round trip in gas, food, and tolls), or flying ($300 round trip per person and about 4-6 hours depending on layovers, delays, checking in, etc.)
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So avoid the toll roads, eat breakfast at home, and bring a sandwich for lunch. Might take longer, but could cut your cost in half. Also use Gas Buddy and Upside to find cheap gas. Upside gives rewards per gallon at select stations all over the country, and you can cash it out once it gets to a certain dollar amount.
â@Linden Peters Good advice, but saving half is still paying double what a high-speed train would cost. Not to mention the environmental impact. Americans deserve a train travel option that's fast, affordable, and doesn't smell of drugs and urine.
@@krystlepoulin6382 That's also not mentioning the value of TIME, y'know? Sure yeah, we can drive and find ways to make the trip cheaper by packing lunches and avoiding toll roads, but there's still the cost of time. Its like 6ish hours of my life total on a high speed train to go a total of 1200 miles (600 there and 600 back), while driving and avoiding toll roads is looking closer to a full 24 hours of my life just thrown out for what still costs double what a high-speed train would cost.
Well Iâm from New York so we DO have this. People visit their family all the time going from the city to Long Island or New Jersey. Obviously this applies to the NY metro area though, not upstate or much further.
I need to travel Vienna-Munich soon, its about 100⏠one-way with DB/ĂBB. High-speed train, about 5.5 hours. Probably still cheaper than by car but still, it is expensive. DB is one of the most expensive train services I know. I still prefer trains for the convenience though, you can get up to stretch your legs, eat, drink, go to the toilet whenever you want.
I used public transport a lot visiting New York City. It was ok. I was glad to be in control of my own transportation when I got back to my car at home.
Laughs in having to pay âŹ300 to get from MĂŒnchen to Brussels using the Deutsche Bahn and having it take 13 hours instead of 7 because some trains just don't appear and they don't notify anyone about it. European trains, the Deutsche Bahn included, are unreliable and disgustingly expensive. The Deutsche Bahn was by far the worst train experience I've ever had.
Yeah it all sounds well and good until the train is delayed. Also people don't realize traveling around Europe is like traveling around just the Northeast US. I'm happy traveling when and where I want in my own car, full of however much stuff I want to bring, thanks.
75âŹ??? Haha very funny, perhaps if you book your tickets 6 month in advance and depart at 2:37am... Travelled last week from south to north. Booked 3 weeks in advance. Departed at 08:00 am and payed for two adults and 2 kids (the kids go for free) 280âŹ.
If you calculate true costs to go by car then then trip certainly won't be cheaper by car. Costs for gasoline/diesel, car depreciation, maintenance/repair/inspection costs, insurance etc sum up to ~50 cent per kilometer for a Mittelklassewagen. In this example this would be ~600⏠(assuming a 600km journey from South to North one way).
@@NC10Plus I refer to your statement. 280⏠is not expensive compared to driving (you need to compare like for like, so not just applying partial expenses to driving) Not to mention that you can move about and can enjoy quality time with your family compared to the adults being tired from driving and the kids going mental over being locked into their seats for hours on end. Plus you travel much more ecologically sensibly.
I love your Account but today is the first time I have to say something. The trains in Germany are usually not that cheap and the worst Thing is: they suck because there is always a problem. They come late, dont come at all or your seat is in a section that has been closed because of some stupid reason. The DB which is the Company in Germany really is Big joke. And everyone who commutes with trains knows the pain.
@@PeaceOfMake poorly connected? I can hop on amtrak and be in Michigan in a day from here in Florida. And almost no one uses them? Maybe by you I don't know, but I've never been on train that wasn't full.
In fact, trains will be much less expensive in the future in Germany. The planned cost will be âŹ49 for all public transportation for a whole month. However, the problem remains that public transportation still needs a lot of investment and improvement.
A modern rail system would be AWESOME to have in the US. Would be a lot more feasible to do as a country, if our entire country was only the size of Texas.
I take the train between my hometown and where I study, could drive but there isn't a single advantage I can think of The train is faster, goes every hour, is cheaper, much more scenic going across the mountains and fjords, and its much more relaxing
Oh I wish we had some TGVs in Canada! I took Via to Toronto and at one point we were going so slow a deer WALKED PAST MY WINDOW AT A SPEED GREATER THAN THE TRAIN! Granted I think we were at a mess of a crossingâŠconjunction junction or something but still! It took longer for MTL to Toronto than Marseille to Paris!
I was on a train in Sweden that had a playground for kids on one of the cars. Cool, except the train was so full of people I had to sit on the dirty floor near the exit.
Our trains are free. Spring 2020 we would take the kids on train rides around the country as a form of entertainment because nothing else was available. We'd go to places we'd never been, get a to-go drink and go for a walk in said town and then train back home. Except for the coffees it was a free day's entertainment.
I take my vehicle on a regular 12-hour drive. I bring all our stuff in the back of the Explorer or Yukon depending on if the family is with me. I then have a vehicle at my destination. You can keep the train unless I can put my vehicle on it and I suspect that would be cost-prohibitive.
Its perfect if you life in a big city and want to drive to another big city. If you life in a small village you need a car cause its sometimes an hour to the next station for a high speed train and there are very bad connections. We tested it from one village to another was a way that's just 2km and the street was about 10 kilometres and with the bus it took 4 hours in another village the bus needs 3 hours to the next village which is 5km away
I do routinely drive 14 hours to get to the next city. If there were a train, I'd probably take it, but there's little demand for a train when the cities are 14 hours apart.
Germany is 1/2 the size of Texas and/or a bit larger than Colorado - and has roughly double the population of California (the most populated US state) so serving smaller, much more densely populated area with rail is significantly different.
In Germany, I don't see the trains as so cheap, if you don't book 2 months in advance. I live in Poland where a lot of people (me included) complain about the punctuality of the trains, but come here, they're crazy cheap. I can take the IC (not high-speed) from Warsaw to Katowice (300km) next day for 30-40zĆ (6-9âŹ) with a student discount, the normal fare in ~70zĆ (15âŹ) As of my expirience, the train network in the Czech Republic is much more extencive and the prices are very simmilar.
I live in Sweden, my kids and their granny's heading on a train next week. It's awsome time to spend with loved ones to go to loved ones. Unless it's canseld because of a leaf........đ
@bLackstar sorry when I visited, 30 years ago, I experienced a different place in time, I'm sure. I was really trying to say to the poster that I did many of the things she suggests makes you "worthy" of saying you are "German" as an American but I still would not feel it appropriate to say to you, her or her husband "I'm German, as well ", I still would feel more likely to say, " OH, really?! I have German ancestors and visited many moons ago... once I took 2 years of German but that was just as many moons ago and I was never fluent" ...... because as the "American" that I am doesn't feel close enough to the culture, the experience or the life that would allow me to refer to myself as "German"..... but I appreciate the feedback! I didn't realize it was so crowded !
In Victoria and New South Wales, Australia thereâs no high speed train or family section, but theyâre cheap and you can move around. In Queensland, itâs cheaper to fly. The ONLY train from Brisbane to Cairns and Mount Isa is RIDICULOUSLY expensive. Itâs not a commuter train - itâs a luxury travel experience that take 2 days to go 1500kms!! No wonder no one uses it.
I would hate taking a train for that kinda trip. Hell, half the fun of the trip is getting there! I've driven cross states! 10 hours, 16 hours, days long road trips. Wouldn't give that up.
Pretty much. ANYONE who's experienced high-speed rail travel in Europe or Japan would never fly again. It is... so nice; more comfortable and affordable. America truly is the world's wealthiest developing country.
By the time you factor in car rental, how much are you really saving? Honest question. Just wondering because I like having a vehicle when I go places.
Germany tip to tip is barely 500 miles, that should only take 6-7 hours on a good highway system. And you have the freedom to stop or change your route to go see something.
I think most Americans hate the current suburban culture where cars are a necessity because viable public transport is just non-existent. I've spent time aboard and would love to see viable rail systems
German rail system is heavily subsidized. Germany spends $160 per person on rail. Their national rail service is also heavily in debt by about 20 billion dollars. Youâre paying for that even though the price of your ticket is low
Holy sh*t! Thatâs how much 1 round trip tickets costs from Trenton, NJ to New York Penn. StationđŠđŠđŠI knew that price was a robbery but a 6-hour train ride (especially HIGH SPEEDđ€€)âŠI canât even fathom a life like that.
Yes, it's perfect. but expect some errors in timetable. They even have something called FLIX-train through Germany that could be combined with buses all around Europe to pass like two, three countries for like 99âŹ
Dude i take the bus in my progressive Texas city and love it. There's a bizarre culture in Texas that associates wealth with vehicles and if you're not using one, it's seen as bad (or pity). It's really very confusing. To take the bus is $1.25 USD. I'm like fine, you go and waste your money, but I'm saving mine (and the environment) by utilizing the tax dollars i pay on something that makes sense. Plus, the added benefit, i don't have to deal with traffic or the stress of driving. SIGN ME UP! lol
Munich to Hamburg (South Germany to North Germany) is 380 miles/610 km, and that takes 10 hours driving, or 6 hours on a "high speed" train? Heck... Brownsville to Amarillo (South Texas to North Texas) is 700 miles/1100 km) and that doesn't even cross a state border...
Ya the worst part of it too is that America has great rail lines. Not high speed lines but alot of great routes but because of the way rail companies are structured in the US we don't get to take advantage of them.
The US needs to invest in public transport to the point that the only people who need cars are those who need to travel more than 60 miles to get to work or are farmers.
2 days is an extreme tough. If I as a European my view might be a bit squiwed but if I traveled two days I wouldn't even be in the same continent anymore. Traveling by land would give me the option of two different continents mayby three
Currently in the process of getting my license and OH BOY what I would give to have a reliable public transport system so I didnât have to drive! Itâs so anxiety inducing!
Tbh if you try to take a train in the US, you'll end up with that kind of delay (I had a five hour delay in the middle of the tracks without power last time) and it's something like $100 per person in economy class. So, I'd personally still take what Germany has.
Well its pretty romanticised here. The price is accurate if you order a few weeks ahead at the lowest faire possible in second class you can get that price. But a north south connection of 6h is probably not just one train but two and traveling with the Deutsche Bahn becomes a nightmare once you have 2 Trains and aren't a first class passenger. Cause the chance for missing the connection it is quite high and if you are a first class passenger you automatically get access to the premium lounge cause your ticket automatically converts into a flex ticket and there you can stay quite comfortably till the next possible connection arrives.
Yeah, it really depends. Also on when - Friday - Sunday evenings are not the best choice. Some people also don't plan enough time between connections (15min in Hamburg isn't great, in Frankfurt impossible)
@@lyaneris you can't even plan the connection times yourself most times cause the DB schedules the trains with the short passover periods. On almost any connection i regularly take the alternative follow-up connection means at least 1h of waiting. But then just travel 1st class and if it's a big station just chill at the lounge in case your train misses the connection. đ€·đ»ââïž
@@grafstahl7872 My sister has been pretty successful with southwest-north (connection in Hamburg). Somehow the trains are really good at making up time (had 25min delay, arrived with 10).
The price seems far fetched though. I'm used to paying 100⏠per ticket, per trip for ONE person. Sure, there's Sparpreis and all, but even that is not cheap.
In the state I live in we have a government run public choo-choo... It takes twice as long than driving by car, NOT including drive time to & from your home to the station... I can drive to the capital from my house in 55 minutes and have the flexibility of my own vehicle while there. If I take the choo-choo it's a 20 minute drive to the station, then a 95 minute ride. Almost two hours versus less than one hour... BRILLIANT IDEA Also the schedules are inflexible, and you still have to rely on other means of transport once there. "Oh but its cheaper to ride the choo-choo" So far ours has cost more than 3x it's originally projected cost to near two billion dollars. Citizens were assured by the bureaucrats that it would pay for itself in ~10 years, yet it actually looses about $5,000 each and every trip. And that isnt even counting the interest on the money borrowed to build this stupid thing.
Everybody bitches about transportation in the US, but they just don't stop and think about the sheer size of this country. A 10-hour drive would barely cover crossing two Midwestern states. I mean Germany is smaller than the state of Texas so I don't think it's really a fair comparison. We had to drive a third of the distance across the country to visit family and it was 1,300 miles ( just under 2100km) one way.
The older I get, the more I understand why people love trains sm
I took a train for the 1st time last summer from Baltimore to Alabama I thought it was going to be miserable 20 something hours but not gonna lie I loved it
@@nbitsme1629 I went from Northern California to Southern California. I was on the train 21 hours and I swear the next time I ride a train itâll be in Europe or Asian and itâll be high speed. That particular trip is for me a two hour drive to the airport and then an hour and 15 minute flight.
You want to share because I can't really see the want to take a train I mean didn't we just have a virus everyone was afraid of who wanted to take the train????
â@@mattlane2282a packed train may not be ideal in the case of a pandemic, but most places you would want to take the train to, aren't either. The train is, however, a reasonably reliable way to get places with little effort, you can even read or get work done while on the go. Also, trains are great for people who cannot drive at all, like me
@@christafranken9170 Flu, common cold, etc... it is never ideal. it also can not pay for itself and needs to be subsidized... it is a failed project from the start.
In Germany we say: Das "P" in Deutsche Bahn steht fĂŒr PĂŒnktlichkeit.
We also say the DB has 5 enemies: the 4 seasons and passengers!
But still one of the best in the world. Of course, no comparison with Japan and Switzerland.
@@arnodobler1096
âItâs cold in winter and there is snow????!!!! Who would have thought that????â
âFor Summerheat we need to cold our engines and maybe the passenger sections??? Haha good jokeâ
âspring and autumn have much rain and we should check the trees next to the tracks? Sounds like an unimportant job letâs do that next yearâ
âWho will go anywhere between 6:00-9:00 or 16:00-19:00 ??? We will use the smaller trainsâ
DB every day/year
In the Netherlands we have the NS in which the N is for never on time and the S is for Sure hope it isnt cancelled đ
đđđ The DB slander will never not be funny. But hey, at least itâs more punctual than flying on average!
@@LittleMaitea especially the last one is infuriating on village train tracks. like wtf are they thinking? it isn't like the goverment wants that the children go by train and not by car. so why is there a train for 40 children if there should be one for 200? no wonder 70% of them get driven by car
trains in germany are actually pretty expensive compared to other countries in Europe.
Also they are often delayed
49⏠from May 2023 per month for regional trains Germany-wide đ€
Trains in the US often get delayed by an entire day because the businesses using the shared tracks get priority and can screw over passenger trains with their shenanigans and inefficiency as much as they want
I should specify that's most passenger trains. The one track & route owned by Amtrak themselves is usually perfectly in time.
@@arnodobler1096 yes, but just keep in mind how long it took them to do this.
Also: delays are still A huge factor if you donât wanna be lateâŠ
But then it wouldnt be high speed, the price she named is unrealistic, at most if you book months in advance
It's beautiful when a country actively encourages public transportation and makes it efficient and pleasant.
its a mess shes fake
Haha it's not efficient. The *one* thing about german trains is, that they're always late, maybe so late you miss your following train.
And with a highspeed train for it to be pleasant you need to reserve a seat for it to pleasant, otherwise you might have to stand.
Also I think it's really expensive in general, it should cost less so it's available for everybody.
If you think that's good, how bad is it in the US?đ
@@Artemis_-yy1nt Ah yes, thank god for the country of âthe tristate area,â itâs pretty good with public transport. Although I wouldnât say itâs the most pleasant.
it may be pleasant but it is extremely expensive, very limited in rural areas and most often late or cancelled. German public transport need a lot of work.
but that's not what happens.
I went to Scotland on my honeymoon and we just used trains the whole time. It was a really cool experience. You can nap and snacks and tea are brought around. There were lots of families with little ones that would sleep peacefully in their parents laps or would climb around. I wish we had more of those in the US
meanwhile all the other German content creators absolutely roastin DB for the terrible delays and platform switches....(still better than slot of places I kno.)
die wird nie was gegen dtlnd sagen, die hass spart sie fur der (or is it dem) VS
Also the must be thinking what two points in Germany takes 10 hours drives to get from A to B.
We are Canadian and my daughter is doing a semester of Uni in Italy. She is absolutely loving the trains.
Okay yes, public transport is great but not in Germany. I'm German. Yes you can get on a high speed train, they're usually on time, but you have to book a seat or you might have to stand for 6 h, it is expensive, if you get the cheap ticket and you miss your train (bc they randomly changed the platform last minute or whatever) you can't take the next one and then you have to buy a new ticket. I regularly spend more than 200⏠per ticket for a 4-6 h ride. Really, there's a lot of work we have to do to improve public transportation in Germany. I get it's better than in the US but it's the bare minimum. Don't even get me started on having to get to work by train every day. Just putting this here because most Germans really hate Deutsche Bahn and for a reason
âđŒall that! Erfurt to Munich with the speedy train is 75⏠Pp. So for 2 adults 2 ways, that is 300âŹ. And DB is always late, changes the trains and you canât find your seats anymore.
Where I live, you're lucky to get a bus once an hour. People may actually riot if they dared suggest a train system.
I live in Italy and get to work by bus. They go on "sciopero" every other week. I got one week with two of them. And... The Christmas holidays were wild (because no high school students needed to take the bus): I've stayed 1,5-2h on the bus stop multiple times. Then the school started and it got back to normal. And they have another "sciopero" next Friday. God, I hate it so much
Ah yes, fellow Germans who've never lived in countries like Italy or Greece think that public transport in German is a mess đđđ
Ever tried the dutch system? you just show up whenever you think you're disheveled enough to go thru the process and you take the train, tram, bus, metro, all with 1 and the same card over the whole country.
Train, you check in with the OV-Chipcard or bank pass (not sure if non-dutch bank cards will work) at the trainstation you enter, and out at the station you need to go (no in between, if you need to step over 3x, no in and out checking, its paid for from entrance to exit calculation) once you exit. Trams and buses are when you board/unboard them.
You can order tickets / month passes for a specific start/end point for work etc. on OV-Chipcard.
But everything goes regular, every 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 min or hour or w/e, you just show up and board when that is convenient for you.
75? That's incredibly low....
But I love travelling by train too, it is like being chauffeured around and you are not completely exhausted when you arrive at your destination.
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The earlier you book, the cheaper it gets! If you book a train/ICE on the same day, it will be really expensive :/
I went from the Netherlands to Poland by train, mostly high speed. 9 hours, around 125 euros I think for 2nd class. I booked first class to get more work done but was not really needed f money was an issue
â@@nayelik5504 one Week in advance could still be very expensive. Really depends on where you going. And then it s always a gamble if you actually arrive. Gotta love the Deutsche Bahn.
Having to wear your mask for hours in a heated up train thats so full you can't even sit down and has no air conditioning is much more exhausting than any car ride on German roads
Trains are quite wonderful, only really bad is that here in Sweden they normally cost twice as much as the same bus trip. If you are really lucky, you can pay 8 Euro from my town to Gothenburg, ive seldom seen train tickets go for less than 15 Euro for the same trip.
Edit: Decided to check the price differences between a bus and a train from where I live to Stockholm. Cheapest train was over 30 Euro, cheapest bus was 17 Euro. Most expensive train ticket was 110 Euro, that's for second class.
Edit2: almost forgot, the price check was for a trip around one week in advance. Needless to say, the further in advance you book, the cheaper it tends to get.
I'm afraid it's not that great in Germany either. It may be fast to take a direct express train from main station to main station e.g. from Cologne to Berlin. But the whole journay usually has way more steps than that. Besides, booking trains spontaneously is very expensive.
For Fridays and Sundays it usually is, yes. But if you can travel on a week day or a Saturday, you can mostly still get relatively cheap tickets even on a short notice. Of course, if you book the same day or the evening before, it will always be kinda expensive.
75 for a train... you have no idea in my city in North America a train raid is over 200 dollars and takes over a few days to make it over 500 km.
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I miss those blissful 3 months when it 9⏠to go anywhere in the country for an entire month
Honestly it was soooo nice!
They're reintroducing it for 50âŹ
The âŹ49 is coming soon, đ
True, even though it excluded the high speed trains
Iâve taken a train one time in my life, from in south central PA in to Baltimore Maryland with my uncle and cousins for a day trip to the aquarium. Best day of my life.
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We have an urban express train now in Utah. Makes perfect sense, since most of the population lives in a string shaped area. Took a while, but people love it now.
For some reason this one just hit me as the funniest
If I had this in the US, I'd go visit family a lot more often.
My sister lives about 10-11 hours by car from me and its either drive that ($300-400 round trip in gas, food, and tolls), or flying ($300 round trip per person and about 4-6 hours depending on layovers, delays, checking in, etc.)
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So avoid the toll roads, eat breakfast at home, and bring a sandwich for lunch. Might take longer, but could cut your cost in half. Also use Gas Buddy and Upside to find cheap gas. Upside gives rewards per gallon at select stations all over the country, and you can cash it out once it gets to a certain dollar amount.
â@Linden Peters Good advice, but saving half is still paying double what a high-speed train would cost. Not to mention the environmental impact. Americans deserve a train travel option that's fast, affordable, and doesn't smell of drugs and urine.
@@krystlepoulin6382 That's also not mentioning the value of TIME, y'know? Sure yeah, we can drive and find ways to make the trip cheaper by packing lunches and avoiding toll roads, but there's still the cost of time. Its like 6ish hours of my life total on a high speed train to go a total of 1200 miles (600 there and 600 back), while driving and avoiding toll roads is looking closer to a full 24 hours of my life just thrown out for what still costs double what a high-speed train would cost.
Well Iâm from New York so we DO have this. People visit their family all the time going from the city to Long Island or New Jersey. Obviously this applies to the NY metro area though, not upstate or much further.
i do miss the train trips from my time in Germany.
I need to travel Vienna-Munich soon, its about 100⏠one-way with DB/ĂBB. High-speed train, about 5.5 hours. Probably still cheaper than by car but still, it is expensive. DB is one of the most expensive train services I know. I still prefer trains for the convenience though, you can get up to stretch your legs, eat, drink, go to the toilet whenever you want.
Wow. Wow. That's amazing
i miss the trains in Europe plus Germany, always right on time
That feeling when you become enlightened to public transport
I used public transport a lot visiting New York City. It was ok. I was glad to be in control of my own transportation when I got back to my car at home.
Laughs in having to pay âŹ300 to get from MĂŒnchen to Brussels using the Deutsche Bahn and having it take 13 hours instead of 7 because some trains just don't appear and they don't notify anyone about it.
European trains, the Deutsche Bahn included, are unreliable and disgustingly expensive.
The Deutsche Bahn was by far the worst train experience I've ever had.
Yeah it all sounds well and good until the train is delayed. Also people don't realize traveling around Europe is like traveling around just the Northeast US. I'm happy traveling when and where I want in my own car, full of however much stuff I want to bring, thanks.
75�?? Haha very funny, perhaps if you book your tickets 6 month in advance and depart at 2:37am...
Travelled last week from south to north. Booked 3 weeks in advance. Departed at 08:00 am and payed for two adults and 2 kids (the kids go for free) 280âŹ.
If you calculate true costs to go by car then then trip certainly won't be cheaper by car. Costs for gasoline/diesel, car depreciation, maintenance/repair/inspection costs, insurance etc sum up to ~50 cent per kilometer for a Mittelklassewagen. In this example this would be ~600⏠(assuming a 600km journey from South to North one way).
@@Warentester 1. Redet sie nicht von den absoluten Kosten und
2. Wieso nicht gleich 1200� Klingt noch besser.
@@NC10Plus I refer to your statement. 280⏠is not expensive compared to driving (you need to compare like for like, so not just applying partial expenses to driving) Not to mention that you can move about and can enjoy quality time with your family compared to the adults being tired from driving and the kids going mental over being locked into their seats for hours on end. Plus you travel much more ecologically sensibly.
Not been using trains much in past. Now I did 2 trips in 3 months with high speed trains and night trains and I am hooked. Love them.
Night trains are awesome
I love your Account but today is the first time I have to say something. The trains in Germany are usually not that cheap and the worst Thing is: they suck because there is always a problem. They come late, dont come at all or your seat is in a section that has been closed because of some stupid reason. The DB which is the Company in Germany really is Big joke. And everyone who commutes with trains knows the pain.
Train is by far the best way to travel.
Bravo!
And Germany now has bus, train, tram or whatever public transport (except high speed train) pass for less than âŹ50
I went to look at train prices from Manchester to London and it's cheaper for me to fly đ
In Japan at the moment đŻđ”
The yransit system here is the best I've ever been on!
god I wish we had high-speed trains in Canada
americans: "Bu that's socialism!!!!"
Absolutely no American anywhere calls a train socialism... we have trains here already dude
â@@jeffklaubo3168he clearly means trains as a whole not a state financing a public transport system
â@@jeffklaubo3168 And they're poorly connected and almost no one uses them.
@@heinshaaine8153 your point?
@@PeaceOfMake poorly connected? I can hop on amtrak and be in Michigan in a day from here in Florida. And almost no one uses them? Maybe by you I don't know, but I've never been on train that wasn't full.
In fact, trains will be much less expensive in the future in Germany. The planned cost will be âŹ49 for all public transportation for a whole month. However, the problem remains that public transportation still needs a lot of investment and improvement.
A modern rail system would be AWESOME to have in the US.
Would be a lot more feasible to do as a country, if our entire country was only the size of Texas.
Texas is the size of Texas (according to the locals, it's slightly bigger, but that's for another time), why don't they have one?
Germany is just a little bit smaller then Montana!
@@jlkkauffman7942
Okay, then Montana can have one.
I take the train between my hometown and where I study, could drive but there isn't a single advantage I can think of
The train is faster, goes every hour, is cheaper, much more scenic going across the mountains and fjords, and its much more relaxing
I miss weekend train tickets
It's funny how Germany at its lowest effort is so amazing to Americans đ
Oh I wish we had some TGVs in Canada! I took Via to Toronto and at one point we were going so slow a deer WALKED PAST MY WINDOW AT A SPEED GREATER THAN THE TRAIN! Granted I think we were at a mess of a crossingâŠconjunction junction or something but still! It took longer for MTL to Toronto than Marseille to Paris!
I was on a train in Sweden that had a playground for kids on one of the cars. Cool, except the train was so full of people I had to sit on the dirty floor near the exit.
Amtrak from Minnesota to Montana takes around about as long as a car ride there, maybe a couple hours longer
Our trains are free. Spring 2020 we would take the kids on train rides around the country as a form of entertainment because nothing else was available. We'd go to places we'd never been, get a to-go drink and go for a walk in said town and then train back home. Except for the coffees it was a free day's entertainment.
My in laws in Germany wouldn't be caught dead taking public transportation in Germany. AND YES gas prices especially there are way to high!
I haven't had a car for 15 years, and I can count the days I miss it on one hand. I have never felt unsafe.
How long will the train be delayed? đ
I take my vehicle on a regular 12-hour drive. I bring all our stuff in the back of the Explorer or Yukon depending on if the family is with me. I then have a vehicle at my destination. You can keep the train unless I can put my vehicle on it and I suspect that would be cost-prohibitive.
I miss when it was the same in France. Now just going to Normandy from Paris costs double than what it used to like 10 years ago....
So glad I live in Alberta an hour from the mountains. Always some kind of vacation near them.
Its perfect if you life in a big city and want to drive to another big city. If you life in a small village you need a car cause its sometimes an hour to the next station for a high speed train and there are very bad connections. We tested it from one village to another was a way that's just 2km and the street was about 10 kilometres and with the bus it took 4 hours in another village the bus needs 3 hours to the next village which is 5km away
As someone from the UK, you are welcome.
(We subsidise like half of Europe's railways with out stupid part privatised franchise system)
I do routinely drive 14 hours to get to the next city. If there were a train, I'd probably take it, but there's little demand for a train when the cities are 14 hours apart.
Trains are one of my favorite parts of Europe. It makes travel so much easier (and I hate driving)
You're making me want to leave. đđđđ
Germany is 1/2 the size of Texas and/or a bit larger than Colorado - and has roughly double the population of California (the most populated US state) so serving smaller, much more densely populated area with rail is significantly different.
Yes, you have a lot more right of way problems you have to solve, which is expensive.
You also need larger train sets and more rolling stock.
Yeah that's because they use railways as primary transport where in the US it's mostly for freight.
In Germany, I don't see the trains as so cheap, if you don't book 2 months in advance.
I live in Poland where a lot of people (me included) complain about the punctuality of the trains, but come here, they're crazy cheap. I can take the IC (not high-speed) from Warsaw to Katowice (300km) next day for 30-40zĆ (6-9âŹ) with a student discount, the normal fare in ~70zĆ (15âŹ)
As of my expirience, the train network in the Czech Republic is much more extencive and the prices are very simmilar.
I live in Sweden, my kids and their granny's heading on a train next week. It's awsome time to spend with loved ones to go to loved ones. Unless it's canseld because of a leaf........đ
This was my most surprising experience when visiting Germany!!
@bLackstar I don't want to be packed like a sardine though!!
@bLackstar sorry when I visited, 30 years ago, I experienced a different place in time, I'm sure. I was really trying to say to the poster that I did many of the things she suggests makes you "worthy" of saying you are "German" as an American but I still would not feel it appropriate to say to you, her or her husband "I'm German, as well ", I still would feel more likely to say, " OH, really?! I have German ancestors and visited many moons ago... once I took 2 years of German but that was just as many moons ago and I was never fluent" ...... because as the "American" that I am doesn't feel close enough to the culture, the experience or the life that would allow me to refer to myself as "German"..... but I appreciate the feedback! I didn't realize it was so crowded !
I'm sure a train ride with a baby is just amazing.....
In Victoria and New South Wales, Australia thereâs no high speed train or family section, but theyâre cheap and you can move around. In Queensland, itâs cheaper to fly. The ONLY train from Brisbane to Cairns and Mount Isa is RIDICULOUSLY expensive. Itâs not a commuter train - itâs a luxury travel experience that take 2 days to go 1500kms!! No wonder no one uses it.
Cries in UK train prices đđđ đ
Cred for that. Weâre not even in the ballgame.
I would hate taking a train for that kinda trip. Hell, half the fun of the trip is getting there! I've driven cross states! 10 hours, 16 hours, days long road trips. Wouldn't give that up.
Pretty much. ANYONE who's experienced high-speed rail travel in Europe or Japan would never fly again. It is... so nice; more comfortable and affordable.
America truly is the world's wealthiest developing country.
That's it I'm moving to Germany.
I wish America had a speed rail across the country.
By the time you factor in car rental, how much are you really saving? Honest question. Just wondering because I like having a vehicle when I go places.
Germany tip to tip is barely 500 miles, that should only take 6-7 hours on a good highway system. And you have the freedom to stop or change your route to go see something.
My family left Germany more than 150 years ago, we haven't been back except for WW1 and WW2.
I think most Americans hate the current suburban culture where cars are a necessity because viable public transport is just non-existent. I've spent time aboard and would love to see viable rail systems
i heard london to edinburgh one way was a lot more expensive than that.
We can thank car and oil companies for successfully purchasing politicians who funded roads and defunded trains.
?? Expand please.
German rail system is heavily subsidized. Germany spends $160 per person on rail. Their national rail service is also heavily in debt by about 20 billion dollars. Youâre paying for that even though the price of your ticket is low
Uuugghh! Now I want to move to Germany.
Holy sh*t! Thatâs how much 1 round trip tickets costs from Trenton, NJ to New York Penn. StationđŠđŠđŠI knew that price was a robbery but a 6-hour train ride (especially HIGH SPEEDđ€€)âŠI canât even fathom a life like that.
I live in the UK, im so jealous
In California where I live, if I wanted to hop on the train to go one hour away, it would cost $300
Who knew that investment in infrastructure and fair pricing can provide huge benefits âŠ
Is that for the family or per person?
Hahahahahaha 6 hours without any delays
But tbh I never had any problems with the ICE, only with the regional trains
Yes, it's perfect. but expect some errors in timetable. They even have something called FLIX-train through Germany that could be combined with buses all around Europe to pass like two, three countries for like 99âŹ
Dude i take the bus in my progressive Texas city and love it. There's a bizarre culture in Texas that associates wealth with vehicles and if you're not using one, it's seen as bad (or pity). It's really very confusing. To take the bus is $1.25 USD. I'm like fine, you go and waste your money, but I'm saving mine (and the environment) by utilizing the tax dollars i pay on something that makes sense. Plus, the added benefit, i don't have to deal with traffic or the stress of driving. SIGN ME UP! lol
Munich to Hamburg (South Germany to North Germany) is 380 miles/610 km, and that takes 10 hours driving, or 6 hours on a "high speed" train?
Heck... Brownsville to Amarillo (South Texas to North Texas) is 700 miles/1100 km) and that doesn't even cross a state border...
Read, work, or watch the miles go by, your on a high speed train, the way to really fly.
That would be amazing to have here in the U.S.
75 euro is a lot in my book. Now your flights round trip are insanely cheap. I remembered going for 12 euros round trip to London.
Ya the worst part of it too is that America has great rail lines. Not high speed lines but alot of great routes but because of the way rail companies are structured in the US we don't get to take advantage of them.
The US needs to invest in public transport to the point that the only people who need cars are those who need to travel more than 60 miles to get to work or are farmers.
Wow, trains are brutally expensive here, very limited in where you can depart from and go to, and high-speed just isn't a thing.
8 hour drive lmao. My mom lives 2 days away and still in the same country.
2 days is an extreme tough. If I as a European my view might be a bit squiwed but if I traveled two days I wouldn't even be in the same continent anymore. Traveling by land would give me the option of two different continents mayby three
And consider that Germany Railway is known to be super expensive in Europe.
Wow. It would cost me about $130-200 (depends on the class of the ticket) to travel to the next province over
Currently in the process of getting my license and OH BOY what I would give to have a reliable public transport system so I didnât have to drive! Itâs so anxiety inducing!
*BREAKS AMTRAK's BRAIN*
Wait till she waits 5 hours + for the train bc of âPersonen im Gleisâ đđđ
Tbh if you try to take a train in the US, you'll end up with that kind of delay (I had a five hour delay in the middle of the tracks without power last time) and it's something like $100 per person in economy class. So, I'd personally still take what Germany has.
Lucky weâve never had an issue! *knock on wood*
Well its pretty romanticised here. The price is accurate if you order a few weeks ahead at the lowest faire possible in second class you can get that price. But a north south connection of 6h is probably not just one train but two and traveling with the Deutsche Bahn becomes a nightmare once you have 2 Trains and aren't a first class passenger. Cause the chance for missing the connection it is quite high and if you are a first class passenger you automatically get access to the premium lounge cause your ticket automatically converts into a flex ticket and there you can stay quite comfortably till the next possible connection arrives.
Yeah, it really depends. Also on when - Friday - Sunday evenings are not the best choice.
Some people also don't plan enough time between connections (15min in Hamburg isn't great, in Frankfurt impossible)
@@lyaneris you can't even plan the connection times yourself most times cause the DB schedules the trains with the short passover periods. On almost any connection i regularly take the alternative follow-up connection means at least 1h of waiting. But then just travel 1st class and if it's a big station just chill at the lounge in case your train misses the connection. đ€·đ»ââïž
@@grafstahl7872 My sister has been pretty successful with southwest-north (connection in Hamburg). Somehow the trains are really good at making up time (had 25min delay, arrived with 10).
The price seems far fetched though.
I'm used to paying 100⏠per ticket, per trip for ONE person.
Sure, there's Sparpreis and all, but even that is not cheap.
Big reason we cant get that started is because states done want to pay for it to get started before it can get to them.......
I've never seen prices like that with German railroads. It has always been cheaper and faster for me to go by car đ€·
Wow gas prices are three times higher in Germany than in the United States!
In the state I live in we have a government run public choo-choo... It takes twice as long than driving by car, NOT including drive time to & from your home to the station...
I can drive to the capital from my house in 55 minutes and have the flexibility of my own vehicle while there.
If I take the choo-choo it's a 20 minute drive to the station, then a 95 minute ride. Almost two hours versus less than one hour... BRILLIANT IDEA
Also the schedules are inflexible, and you still have to rely on other means of transport once there.
"Oh but its cheaper to ride the choo-choo"
So far ours has cost more than 3x it's originally projected cost to near two billion dollars. Citizens were assured by the bureaucrats that it would pay for itself in ~10 years, yet it actually looses about $5,000 each and every trip.
And that isnt even counting the interest on the money borrowed to build this stupid thing.
Everybody bitches about transportation in the US, but they just don't stop and think about the sheer size of this country. A 10-hour drive would barely cover crossing two Midwestern states. I mean Germany is smaller than the state of Texas so I don't think it's really a fair comparison. We had to drive a third of the distance across the country to visit family and it was 1,300 miles ( just under 2100km) one way.