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DID Switching Channels | Trisha Paytas & DissociaDID
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2020
- This video answers the question: Can I offer a critique of the Dissociative Identity Disorder Switching Video by Trisha Paytas? Can I critique the DissociaDID channel?
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Original Trisha Paytas DID video critique: • Trisha Paytas Video Cr...
More detailed breakdown of DID, The Dissociative Identity Disorder Controversy (Trauma vs. Iatrogenic): • The Dissociative Ident...
Dissociative identity disorder is an official mental disorder in the DSM and the criteria for DID are listed there. We see a disruption of identity characterized by two or more distinct personality states (in some cultures these distinct personality states may be referred to as possession), we see a marked discontinuity of self and alterations in affect, behavior, consciousness, memory, perception, cognition, and sensory motor functions. These different personality states may be observed by other individuals and reported to the individual who has this disorder. We also see recurrent gaps in recall of everyday events, personal information, or traumatic events. These gaps in recall can't be attributed to normal forgetfulness. There must be clinically significant distress or impairment and it cannot be a normal part of cultural or religious practices, substance use, or a medical condition. The prevalence of dissociative identity disorder is thought to be between 1 and 1.6% of the general population. We know that this particular disorder is associated with a great deal of comorbidity, meaning it tends to co-occur with other mental disorders like borderline personality disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, somatic symptom disorder, eating disorders, sleep disorders, conversion disorder, and substance use disorder. Also, self-harm behaviors and suicidal behaviors have been associated with dissociative identity disorder.
Boysen, G. A., & VanBergen, A. (2014). Simulation of multiple personalities: A review of research comparing diagnosed and simulated dissociative identity disorder. Clinical Psychology Review, 34(1), 14-28.
Brand, B. L., Sar, V., Stavropoulos, P., Krüger, C., Korzekwa, M., Martínez-Taboas, A., & Middleton, W. (2016). Separating Fact from Fiction: An Empirical Examination of Six Myths About Dissociative Identity Disorder. Harvard Review of Psychiatry, 24(4), 257-270.
American Psychiatric Association. (2013). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). Arlington, VA: Author.
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Trisha Paytas DID videos:
• Video
• Video
Meet alters: • Video
Not okay: • Video
stop bullying: • Video
DissociaDID videos:
• REACTING TO TRISHA PAY...
• Trisha Paytas - THE IM...
“I’m accustomed to educational content, and Trisha Paytas does not qualify” 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
LOL like best read ever! 😂🤣🤣🤣 when he started with “I had to build my cognitive reasoning skills back up” I was dead 💀💀💀 and then that line 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 the best!
Mel JKLMNO lol yes he really clocked her and I love it😂
That's an understatement lol.
Mel JKLMNO I flat lined that at point! I knew this video was going to be good at that point
It is the most polite and scientific neutral way of saying "her content makes my brain hurt".
Dr Grande: "She mentions that two of her alters have all but died, and I was wondering did they die from embarrassment? Seems like a realistic explanation..."
The most polite burn I have ever witnessed.
Subbing for life.
@@jet__girl 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 thought I was the only one died on that comment 😂😂😂
I actually laughed my lungs out XDD
@@jet__girl Hey.. aside from the joke, would you mind telling me if dr.Grande is a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Thanks 🤗
Lol
_"I did watch it...I watched it.."_
Thank you for your sacrifice, Doc.
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😂laughing so hard on this comment
"I had to build back up my cognitive reasoning skills after watching her first video"
I choked on my coffee
I'm the 100th like
IKR... Never have I seen such clean and posh burns
Hahaha Watching Trisha is definitely like watching a train wreck. I usually feel a bit unclean after.
I actually laughed (loudly) out loud. Thank goodness no one else was home haha
@@aster7986 Dr Grande is different but I really like him.
“Did they die of embarrassment? From making this video?”
DR GRANDE.. YOUR HUMOR 😚👌🏻
Chelsey Brooks I love it bc it’s not expected just by looking at him. 😄
Touch My Snek! He’s Happy To See You - I know!! And his monotone voice is the icing on the cake 🧁
I think its tacky for a “Doctor” to make fun of someone. Hella shit he could be/probably has been made fun of for. Guess people who have been bullied turn into bullies. I’m reporting this channel for bullying.
@@Ducklemon885 and what about the whole ass communities Trisha has bullied? Girl, bye.
@aimee glatt yes, he is. :)
*compares Trisha’s content to the radiation at chernobyl* “I’m not saying she’s bad or anything like that” 💀💀💀
mstinasugar that’s a WHOLE new level of toxic 🤣
we rather be at chernobyl... just saying
mstinasugar I SAW THAT TOO, even he felt like he lost brain cells, poor man🥺
He pretty much said that she drops his iq by him just watching her videos
LOL she is the elephants foot I’m dead
my therapist told me that dissociative disorder usually arises in folks who have endured severe SEVERE early childhood abuse...so it's depressing that someone would turn it into some form of low based entertainment for the masses (looking at you Trisha).
and not only severe but also repetitive!
Looking at Nin too.
If I could make $ of my trauma I would sh#÷ I'd be rich af.
@@chlorinelori1064 - Nin doesn’t focus on entertainment though. They prioritize informative content.
Trauma. Not necessarily abuse... but yeah.
I have to say- my mom has DID... and the idea of "switching" so often- or on command- is ludicrous. My mom would often stay with one alter for days at a time- making her life (and those around her) very difficult. She was unable to ever have a job. She could not remember days at a time. She would "wake up" after switching and think that strange alternate timelines had occurred.
These videos are so upsetting to watch. Honestly- I don't (personally) know a single person undergoing treatment that would want to make a video of what their life is like alternating between alternates. I don't know how this disk became "sexy", but I promise you... it is not. Not at all. It's not seem to wake up in the middle of the night and have your mother thinking you had died or been taken. It's not seem to watch her having seizures at the bus stop due to psychotropic medications used to "control" her illnesses. It's not sexy to watch her stealing and know that it's not right, but there's nothing you can do about it. It's not sexy to grow up knowing that this is as good as it gets for her.
To those of you faking- you're doing so much damage, so much disservice to the people really facing this disorder.
Don't you find it weird that they switch make up and clothing to become an "alter" and continue making the video? That seems so extremely disingenuous to me.
I’m so glad you said this!
This! My mom had it too and you took the words right out my mouth.
@@silentype3008 its probably the alters who did the makeup and clothes to fit their personality? idk
I was diagnosed with DID and I agree with everything you said. I wake up in the middle of the night unable to recognize my surrounding, feeling like I'm a prisoner in my own home. I have looked at my partner's face and couldn't figure out who they were. I often thought I had early onset alzheimers and I'm in my 20s! I had break downs because I was so scared that one day I would forget everything and everyone I loved. I dissociate so much and my anxiety is sickening. I can't breathe correctly when I leave the house because I am so afraid of the world. I've only been able to manage 1-2 days a week at work and i dread having to leave the house to make my shift. I've had so many jobs because I have terrible fears that my colleagues hate me and actively sabotage me.
I hate that this disorder has the reputation that it has because people romanticize it. I love some of my alters but I have had moments where I was screaming for them to "stop talking to me I don't want to be this way".
It took so long to get a proper diagnosis because malingering makes this disorder so damn controversial. No one wants to diagnose and treat for it because the odds of being wrong are so damn high. It's like every other teen has it now because it's fun.
It really breaks my heart. (I apologize for any typos. I can't be asked to go back and re read it. I'm already so angry.)
This man just basically said Trisha Paytas makes him lose brain cells
Edit:Holy shit why does this have 11k am I a celebrity now
Edit2:Giving autographs till 13k
That would be ironic since he’s meant to be a professional and should know that you lose and gain brain cells anyway
Voice of the internet.
Oh and how right he is
In defense of both of them, he has said in past videos that certain videos are difficult for him to watch because they are too chaotic or energetic. That is not the words he used, I can’t recall the right words. So her type of videos are difficult for him. Not that she was crazy
I wend't and watched one of those switching movies my self... a! mmmm... me d um now.
Dr Grande roasting Trisha so eloquently for the first 3 minutes gives me life
This was absolutely gooooooold! 😄
🔥👍😂
So graceful, yet so brutal.
Absolute facts!
💚🔥🔥💚
He really went and related watching Trisha Paytas to being exposed to radioactive waste and honestly he was spot on
Absolutely right
Bahahahahaha
Omg this comment :'ddd
My grandmother always said that to have true diplomacy is to tell someone to go to hell in such a way they look forward to the trip. You sir have mastered it! 😎
Your grandmother is clever.
I love it, I'm going to use that definition.
Brilliant ❤
Yasssss!!!
Dr Todd: I did watch it. I watched it.
*stares into a distant abyss*
Me: god bless that brave man. He loses brain cells so that we might not
He took one for the team👏. But this man had to read smart people stuff to flush Trisha out of his brain.😂
Dead literally 🤣😂🤣
Lmao. The serious tone in his voice is perfect. 😂
literally- he has to rebuild his brain cells
He took one for the team..
This is why Trisha is exhausting: She accuses this young woman Nin of trying to make money off of Trisha's video, when I'm quite sure it was explained that Nin only heard about the video because Trisha used her, by name, as an example of someone with DID - *and called her crazy* - in her video exploiting the diagnosis for money. Trisha's best argument of experiencing altered states is that her own brain cannot handle how exhausting, contradicting and repulsive her behavior is.
DissociaDID has been around for well over a year, I think almost 2 years. Nin and others were interviewed by Anthony Padilla. All of the sudden Trisha makes a video on her self diagnosis. Trisha is so full of herself is disgusting. I have never followed her, but I can't stand even to watch a full minute of any of her vids!
Zoe Wynne plus: trisha accusing Nin of making literally TWO videos for views where in both she (and kyle) are very hurt and stressed about the whole situation, while trisha made way more than the videos she posted on youtube since she went on a violent rant on her instagram stories too.
Tired of it All it’s so obvious that she watched anthony’s video and saw another opportunity to be a piece of shit and insert herself where she doesn’t belong 🙄 i hate saying shit like “she doesn’t have this disorder” because we can’t really say, but when you’re someone with the constant behavior of inserting yourself on marginalized communities *for views* and admitting to being a troll, yeah it’s extremely unlikely she’s telling the truth.
EDIT: also having any disorder isn’t an excuse to be a piece of shit asshole like trisha.
@@punishedcrow I agree. It breaks my heart to see them so stressed! I don't have D.I.D but I am Bipolar. It peeves me off, Trisha coming onto social media with the platform she has, trying to get the quick cash by degrading D.I.D. disorder and the mental health community as a whole!
trishas BEEN using other names to gain views and money , even when she’s not involved in it .
What upsets me, is that I was diagnosed with DID when I was 27, I am 40 now.. my first couple different diagnoses were Borderline Personality disorder and Bipolar Disorder. DID isn't something that is fun or easy to deal with. It's not something that is glamorous. It actually ruins lives. I have lost my children, I can't hold down a job, I've lost my family, and my husband doesn't understand it. We are almost always fighting. I hardly ever look in the mirror because I don't recognize my own reflection! Literally! Yet people are making videos of themselves? How? It scares me and I'm ashamed because I am not as outgoing as they are.
I love you, stay strong ❤️
Stay strong and thank your alters for helping in the ways that they could.
You should really get a long, overdue second opinion on that. DID is controversial for a reason and there's a damn good chance you were misdiagnosed.
Do you have black outs?
You’re not alone
His voice is the kind of voice that could say the most offensive stuff and it would still sound like a compliment
Have you seen ‘The Fast Show’ - UK comedy skits?
They do a laid back scientist & the likeness is remarkable (apart from the long hair & he always gets it wrong).
"DEPRESSION caught ON CAMERA!!!"
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spoiler alert: it's three hours of my lying on my bed trying to summon the energy to take the garbage out.
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😂😂
Lmao literally me.
3 hours... it takes me 3 days to take rubbish out 🙈
That's a whole ass mood.
“She mentions 2 of her alters have died.. and I was wondering did they die of embarrassment from making that video?”
🤣🤣🤣 💀
I laughed my ass off on that part, I was quite stressed bc my home office VPN connection is veeeeery slow rn and this was funny af
It saved my day lmao
Can alters even die? I know they can assimilate with other alters, but idk.
paloma the reptilian ah yes gave me quite the chuckle!
Headmates can hypothetically 'Die', but it's hyper complicated an issue...
We thought one of ours had disappeared or died or their structure had atrophied in the brain but they woke up and were triggered back into self awareness after like half a decade, so we dk what to believe.
Yeah, we gotta write a book about this and cite studies in it or something. :|
@@odetotano3292 they just go dormant or integrate with another alter. Idk bout other cases
"She said she would never talk about this again...and I really hoped she would follow through on that one."🤣
14:36 i think there are a lot of "narcissism caught on camera" videos on CZcams. They just aren't labeled as such.
My thoughts exactly xd
Right… they’re just called influencers.
He was feeling a little sassy in this one. His Chernobyl analogy was humorous.
I almost spat out my cup of tea and had to pause and rewind a few times 😂
Laura Rivers: me too! I laughed out loud! Don’t think I’ve ever done that from Dr. Grande’s videos. He has a dry humor & should bring it out more often :) though I get that his topics are usually pretty dark/serious.
JessM He was pretty sassy in the other one too. I love how he’s subtly sassy in like a classy way somehow 😂
Omg! That was gold.
Best.shade.ever😆
“Did they die of embarrassment” I don’t know if this video was meant to be funny but you sir are my hero. With everything going on in this world I needed this dry humor. I don’t think I’ve laughed so hard in quite some time.
I’m only 2:27 in, and I appreciate how he describes feeling uneducated after viewing her work.
I feel exactly that way after watching a couple minutes of Beavis and Butthead.
Gold.
I was eating and I legit almost choked when he said that.
Maya * dry humor is gold
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who lost it when he said, well just about everything, with such a (mostly) straight face. I actually laughed so hard I cried almost as much as she did in her video. Thank you Dr. Grande, you made my night! I didn't want to watch Trisha's video of her "switching alters" because I didn't want to give her the view but I caved and watched one of her weeping videos and then just had to watch the jacka** in action and was completely disgusted. I want to have sympathy for her because she's obviously unwell but just can't muster it. This is a plea to anyone who is actually still willing to associate with her, get her some help and drag her a** away from the camera! I used to think watching Teletubbies with my children was going to be the most mind numbing experience of my life; I was wrong.
I literally bursted out laughing!
I love when he said she claims “nobody knows what’s in my head” and he responds “seems a fair statement” 😂🤣
Your final conclusion on how we should show compassion towards people even when they may be faking DID has to be some of the most mature words i've heard in this platform. It's so easy to just add fuel to the fire in order to get views through sensationalism but to see a channel that actually cares about making quality content it's rare. We need more channels like yours!
Doctor, your ability to throw honest , irrefutable, witty shade whilst being polite and dignified is masterful. Masterful.
Passive aggressiveness is almost a lost art in our cultural moment in time.
Yep, you stole the words out of my taping screen!! Lol
Reminds me of when my dad is disappointed in me and it hurts more than when he’s mad.
This comment was so on point 👏🏼
Exactly this is so well worded
“Did they die from embarrassment? From posting that video?” NO HE DIDNT. NO HE DID NOT. GO OFF TODD YES WERE ALL HERE FOR IT
I started watching this video like oh here is a professional adult who is actually going to be scientific about it but no. He lost brain cells so we don’t have to. Thanks!
Hahahaha that part made me laugh
AYYE FCKN YOOOOOO
SHE JUST GOT ROASTED
Reminds me of the hey got em guy
Caught on camera with Asperger's: a montage of my discomfort with eye contact, adventures in underemployment, internally flipping out while trying to figure out if someone is kidding, so much accidental rudeness, monologues galore about North Korea/through hiking/plants/airplanes, clumsy mishaps, and the occasional meltdown. Yeah, no.
I noticed that in Trisha's meet the alters video, she said that she has never been diagnosed with any mental disorder. Then she said in the next video that she was diagnosed with Schizophrenia, Bipolar disorder, etc. That right there is already a huge red flag for someone who may have a problem with lying.
“Did they die of embarrassment?” 😂😂 Subscribed.
The comment I was looking for 😂😂
Perfect lol
Literally scrolled looking for this comment.
🤣🤣🤣waiting for that
ICONIC
It’s worth noting that Trisha’s kid “alter” (take those quotation marks as you will...) copied what one of Nin’s littles said in Anthony Padilla’s video. Anthony’s video and its popularity being the reason Trish made her first video.
I’m so glad you pointed that out because that’s exactly what I came here to say!!
Trish saying dissociaDID made a video to gain clicks off her name, that’s kinda what Trish did when she made the first video not long after the Anthony interview.
I can’t remember which of the H3 podcast clips she says it in, but it’s in the same podcast she talks about Anthony Padilla, Ethan mentions how she had “retired” from YT and then posted all these vids. She responded that she had already filmed a bunch of videos before that announcement on things that are “trending”. Really seems like she thought DID was a trending topic and saw a cash grab... 🙄
It makes me angry to know that if she did have the disorder she'd keep the little in the video. Nin talked about how they are extremely protective over their little alters and that they rarely show them to keep them safe, and Trish just put them forward like that. I know she most likely doesn't have the disorder, but it's annoying how misinformed she is, and how many people she's offending.
The Passenger Well the littles are the most vulnerable part of a system, they're just children and could get really naive (esp some that don't age), think protecting your baby from predators and harsh realities. Obviously some are more open than others when it comes to their littles but generally they're really really protected at all costs.
You're a very good speaker. I have ADHD and sometimes struggle to keep focus for a long period of time. But you held my attention the whole time.
DissociaDID seems legit, although it's true that you can really never tell.
I think the reason it is so popular is not quite entertainment, a lot of her videos are quite sad and frankly hard to watch.
I still went on a streak of watching her videos and felt like I learnt a lot about how the brain works. I think looking at an extreme case like this is really helpful to understand the brains capabilities, limits and inner workings.
But yeah that other girl... she seems to just want the attention.
I gotta say, I honestly don’t believe her. Sorry. 😔
It’s just that, having experienced dissociation myself (not DID, but another disorder that causes dissociation when I’m extremely stressed/distressed) I know that with each episode of dissociation, it can take days to recover from them - it’s like getting a hangover and I mostly sleep lot’s for a few days afterwards. So with this in mind, I can;t fathom how she’s able to dissociate so easily and so much so that she could catch it on camera, the whole idea of DID is that they experience amnesia with these episodes, so can she set up to film it?
Unless I’m highly missing the mark in some way and attaching my own experiences of mental health and dissociation too much, I can’t see how it’d be possible for HER to catch the alters on camera?
I could understand someone else catching it, but not herself. If she’s forcing an alter and aware of their presence, doesn’t that sort of go against a DID diagnosis? Since they experience amnesia? She’s very smart and honestly seems quite manipulative, in my impression of her.
I do at least like that her channel is educational and raises awareness for this condition, at least she’s doing something good with it even if it’s a bit sus. It seems more attention-seeking to me, or at least, something she consciously does to separate herself from things.
@@asassynation9955 yeah well, as I said it's hard to tell but I believe her. I've had some dissociative episodes, nothing regular so maybe it's different but i just felt kind of exhausted for a few hours after and that was it. I'd imagine there is an extremely wide range of experiences when it comes to symptoms like that, and maybe you can even get accustomed to it when you have something like DID. Also seems like you might have other exhausting symptoms in your episodes that might add to that? idk (wish you the best for that btw, i'd recommend some practices if i would know you irl lul)
For your other points i'd be going off of what she said in videos, so idk if that's convincing, but it doesn't seem unreasonable for a person with DID to be aware of their other alters and even start cooperating with them. I think she could totally set up to film, especially if her other main alters know what she's doing and just continue her actions or at least dont delete and break stuff. it's also not like she can't be aware of the other alters and therefore can't catch them on camera, she just can't be aware of the memories those alters protect, and they probably won't share those on camera, and even if they do and she hears some of it, i assume she would immediately start to dissociate and switch to the alter that deals with that memory.
Idk, in the end i just don't really get why you would go through all that struggle to fake having an intense illness like that, i think there's easier ways to get views
@@vincnt0169 You make some very good points! And like I said, maybe I’m attaching my own experiences to it a bit too much because you’re right, I suppose you could become accustomed to the dissociative episodes if they happened that often, I don’t doubt that! My own dissociative episodes are thankfully not all that often, they get triggered with extreme stress or distress, and yes, I always feel like I have an awful hangover and mostly sleep for a few days afterwards.
I find it horrifying and scary, to be honest. I don’t know how people can make a whole channel around this stuff! I’d never want to keep reliving that dissociation time after time!
To my understanding of DID (though, I’m open to correction!) is that it involves amnesia and to my knowledge, their dissociative episodes are usually triggered as well - but, I could be wrong. I don’t have the disorder myself, so can’t comment too much on it - only on what I see - my opinion comes more from my gut feeling about her, she seems quite manipulative to me. I’m not trying to be judgemental, I’m just reserving some caution.
It does seem plausible too, that she could have it but is exaggerating it as well? I do think she is maybe exaggerating for clicks if nothing else. Like I said, at least she’s doing something good with this and is very smart and informative and raising awareness, so I do at least respect her for that, it was probably well needed.
When is it “dissociation” and when is it “imagination” - I agree, difficult to tell.
her inner world is copied word by word from a fictional book
I dont believe any of them. All fake.
Nin didn’t accuse her of faking anything. TRISH Called Nin “crazy.”
exactly. nin never claimed in her response video that trisha was faking, only that trisha was extremely misinformed in her(trisha’s) initial video
@@tarostartic8833 I really love what Nin said in a semi-recent video about people 'faking'. She said something like "I say this with love - it's none of your business. So what if they're faking? It will come to light eventually. It's already so hard to get people to listen to you." Of course she was talking about DID, but I think this goes for most mental illnesses.
and in the very first one she said "it's not my place to say whether or not she's faking" so the fact trisha outright lied is ugggggggggggh!!
well she is crazy
@@annak.6176 what happens to people when we develop dissociative disorders is an incredibly intricate way of remaining functional. It's a normal reaction to abnormal stressors.
We are not "crazy"
There's a difference between ill and crazy. There's a difference between not being neurotypical and being crazy.
"I'm used to educational content, and Trisha Paytas does not qualify."
In other words she's thick as shit!! 😂
@@tiffanykautz8270 44 Trisha videos on a playlist? Yikes, that explains a lot...
@@tiffanykautz8270 Yeah, if i would go and lose all those braincells i would also defend her lol
Right?
“ it’s not appropriate or glamorous to fake any other disorders “
Yes doctor thank you, as someone with epilepsy i really want people to understand that seizures aren’t funny and they are so painful and our brain just go through a lot , I mean seizures are a trend now on tik tok they mimic having a seizure using a specific song,and sometimes we be called possessed and I honestly don’t know how a seizure could be funny to someone.
I completely agree. I don’t have epilepsy but I have something called conversion disorder or ‘dissociative pseudoseizures’ which causes me to develop tics or seizures when exposed to trauma or become triggered in some way. It’s incredibly painful and mentally / physically exhausting and incredibly painful. It hurts me to hear people telling me that I’m faking or people pretend to have seizures because it ‘looks funny.’ It’s actually incredibly embarrassing and uncontrollable (don’t get me started on the time I seized while on a stage in a dress in front of 20+ people). If you’ve never experienced it, become informed about it- don’t mock something traumatizing for someone else just because it makes you look cooler.
I have two fat scars on my face from having seizures and face planting the bathroom wall. I don’t even remember any seizures I’ve had! It’s so obvious when people fake too…. None of them have the scary “dead behind the eyes” look most seizure victims have, which really freaks my family out. And apparently I make a noise at the start that I just can’t try and fake! So it’s terribly obvious seeing people fake it and I feel very distressed for them thinking they are so boring they need to invent ~~funky~~ medical issues
i feel like every kid on tik tok needs to watch this rn.
mention: when trisha’s ‘child alter’ fronted, she literally copied some of what nin’s little alter said in anthony padilla’s interview (which is extremely disrespectful in several ways: nin and her system deliberately do not share info on their littles, for safety reasons.)
Totally noticed that.... She really doesnt stop
chloe is the host
TinyFrog Spawn chloe WAS the host, chloe and nina kinda merged into nin
@@lumminefrog8070 chloe integrated
@@lumminefrog8070 Yea, Chloe integrated a little bit ago, Nin is now the host.
nin didn’t say that she was faking she literally said that she’s not going to accuse her of anything except being ignorant and spreading wrong information. Trisha’s really gonna act like the victim when she mentioned nin first and actually called her crazy???? Which really triggered nin
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And even so, Nin’s video was SUPER respectful! No hate whatsoever, only got a little more serious regarding the “crazy” stuff.
Nin and the rest of the system we’re doing so good at not getting angry this video. She was very respectful and willing to let the idea in that Trisha may have DID.
It is just overly annoying that Trisha does not have that same amount of respect towards the DisassociaDID system. (Sorry if I spelled her channel. I can’t spell check a name)
Not defending Trisha because she was wrong “if” she was faking, but everyone did take that out of context. She was saying if she didn’t know what it was like to go through it, she would see someone like that and think they were crazy. That is not sayin Nin you are crazy. Neither side was in the right here with how it was handled and people need to stop attacking, quit the drama and let it be. Trisha moved in to making other content so I say let it be because in her case silence is golden.
I am not defending Trisha because she was wrong “if” she was faking, but everyone did take that out of context. She was saying if she didn’t know what it was like to go through it, she would see someone like that and think they were crazy. That is not sayin Nin you are crazy. Neither side was in the right here with how it was handled and people need to stop attacking, quit the drama and let it be. Trisha moved in to making other content so I say let it be because in her case silence is golden. Also, like Dr. Grande said, let’s show compassion right meow.
Dr. Grande, your humor slayed me. I thought I was one of the only ones that felt like after watching those I had to regroup. She clearly needs help, that much is certain.
To the point about switches caught on camera: I, my sister, and my wife have been diagnosed with DID by licensed therapists. This is a disorder I am familiar with. When my wife switches, it looks exactly like on DissociDID. When my sister and I switch, it's completely fluid and no one would even notice if they didn't know us very personally. It's important for new therapists to know that it's not always like the videos. I'm really glad you mentioned retraining new therapists in this video.
We switch over a while or very suddenly or fluidly. It honestly depends on the situation and the members involved. It is so difficult to get anything done since we have to share a life
Hahaha! No you have not. Seriously, what's up with all these "actually, I have DID" people in the replies?? Stop lying.
@@cocogoat2131 And now exactly do you know they don't have it? Sure, statistics say it's rare, but then again statistics don't tell the whole story, only that "1% of the whole 7.8 billon people of earth have it". There's a chance this guy could be telling the truth just as much as there is a chance he is lying. You don't have solid proof for either scenario. Not only that, but who are you to say who has and doesn't have it lol? If this guy was saying he is 8-foot tall Jesus riding a velociraptor with lasers, yeah you can definitely say he is lying, but when it comes to a mental disorder, only a specialist can give a diagnosis. (which could even not be 100% true because any health care system, mental or medical, only gives you a diagnosis based on symptoms, they don't know the definitive answer; for eg. some coughing and a tummy ache can be passed as a flu, food poisoning or something much worse. There isn't someone that knows exactly what condition someone has with 100% certainty)
@@cocogoat2131 Wow, it's almost like people with a disorder seek out content about it online. That's like being "why are all these people in the comments of this video about PTSD saying they have PTSD? Must be lying for attention". Like, what?
@@ariadne0w1 yeh, did, the disorder that the medical community cannot even agree exists .
I have been diagnosed with emotional BPD, GAD and cPTSD, I hear a commentary through my head, not voices with definable characters but they are what I believe to be dissociative thoughts. The thoughts are always negative, they always tell me things that are beyond my control. Interesting when I went under general anaesthetic for 6 hours the thought went away for an entire week, the silence was bliss until I left the hospital. Interactions outside seemed to jolt me, and the thoughts found a way through again. I have had huge trauma all my life, from childhood all through to adulthood. The thoughts I have never surfaced into personalities, nor do they go into places and talk to each other. I just like to say to others going through these problems that there are coping mechanisms to get you through this, and there is a way to solve these problems, and as people who suffer them, I believe it is us that can heal ourselves from them. Love your videos Dr Todd, your awesome, thank you for the time you put into your channel. Mental health is the last sigma to be conquered.
"Did they die from embarrassment?"
Me: *liked the video*
Me too
Same lol
lmao me toooo anyone who can throw shade like that deserves much more likes and views
His small chuckle to himself. But, how could you not
In defense of Nin, her channel is really more of talking about how different and varied DID is. She often talks about how DID is a painful and scary experience. I really appreciate this video though, it was really informative
cesaromoable Excuse me?
Rp Mcmurphy man Nin isn’t even a cluster b. That’d suggest she actually has trauma which she doesn’t. Some cluster b’s have respect but I wouldn’t even place Nin near that. She’s just spoiled and looking for easy money.
@@GracyXOX1 I'm sorry, but you do understand that you are insulting and wrongly accusing a person who is not only well educated in DID, but also has it? Every single video she makes has links to where she got her information from, and every single one of those links are confirmed to be true. She also sticks to the true info that she talks about. Her statements about DID are either consistently correct scientifically or are confirmed to be common or consistent by both people with DID and experts on it. When responding to Trisha, she was calm and didn't say a single insult about Trisha. She calmly informed about the correct info. Oh, and for the person who said that the existence of alters with amnesia isn't possible, you clearly do not have DID and are clearly not educated whatsoever on this topic. Did you even do any research before making such an incorrect statement? If you're going to be wrong, at least have some evidence that you could TRY to use to prove your point
@@folkuey_artster her links are copy and pasted and usually pretty biased. Scientifically there's a lot of skepticism surrounding DID as said in this video yet "well educated" Nin for some reason doesn't mention it. And her diagnosis happened in 2 days by a guy who can't diagnosis it there's evidence of this lmao. So I'm not accusing her of anything. She doesn't have DID. If a doctor who can't diagnose it gives someone a diagnosis it's deemed something known as invalid.
@@GracyXOX1 I watched a lot of her videos and she does mention that DID is a pretty controvercial topic. She may doesn't mention it as often as she should but she did in the past. She also went to university to study psychology and I think she has a lot of knowledge from the time she was in uni. She was forced out of uni bc of her DID and I don't think that someone drops out of uni just to "become" famous. (She could be lying ofc, but I don't think that she does, you can think whatever you want as well)
As someone who has been diagnosed by a medical professional with DID I am angered when it is sensationalized. What many people don't understand is the absolute horrors someone has to go through for personalities or alters to form. For myself they were a blessing helping me to go away while the sexual abuse occured. My switching is never very obvious. For me they have been like assistants helping me navigate through my life and recovery. I have absolutely no idea why it is so interesting to have DID. I struggle every single day despite having an amazing treatment team. I wish people would realize to get DID you have to suffer horrific abuse. They help you cope. I can't see myself ever switching on camera. They aren't for entertaining the world through ridiculously offensive videos. Thanks for your great videos. I enjoy them and often learn a lot.
"I had to rebuild up my cognitive functions after watching her first video." Omg I love this man. A gentleman's diss if you will.
His Chernobyl analogy is the classiest way of saying: Trisha's video is so stupid i loose braincells watching it.
pax *lose*
THIS
Yes.
And may I add that having never seen anything from Trisha P. I still won't go watch. It just feels useless xD
Which is honestly quite a negative point for her, I imagine
this comment needs more likes lmao
pax and that is FACTS!
Trisha lies.
She lies all the damn time.
And obviously she's lying now.
She wants attention
Yes ofc. She also lied about being trans too
She is like the boy who cried wolf
How to kick someone of of youtube i just need it for......personal reasons?
@@anastalovic7636 get over it!! You'll be ok
After Kya's most recent video of their system update, nothing will convince me that they are faking it. They shared SOME the HORRIFIC trauma and repeated trauma they went through as a child (CSA, COCSA, CP, Kidnapping, to name a few), and persistently while growing up through their teen years, all the way to the trauma they are suffering now as an adult. They didn't have to share that. No one should have to share such terrible facts of their life to prove their validation, or cry like that and be so vulnerable on camera, but Kya (formerly known as Nin, who runs the DissociaDID channel) did it anyway. Yes, their titles are clickbaity, but only to grab attention as they would most likely be lost to audiences otherwise. I've seen acting, I've seen fake tears, and those weren't fake, and I'll be damned thrice over if they were. Trisha -- we don't talk about Trisha. But to people watching this, do be kind to Kya (Nin). They are legit, they have proof to back up their claims, and they are expressing themself through their videos as well as providing excellent, well-thought-out education. Don't let the "clickbaity" titles turn you off or write them off as a faker. They did not claim to be an expert. All you have to do is watch maybe 10 or less vids on their channel and you can see how genuine they are. Much love to you and your channel Dr. Grande, and much love to Kya (DissociaDID) as well
I've seen people trying to say that it's fake because timeline events are off(hello amnesia) or that nobody would make videos of their abuse and disease since it's so severe(which people should to raise awareness of it, but it only seems to be okay for "low" trauma victims for some reason) and that someone in her condition wouldn't have the energy or the willpower to make videos I've even seen some go to say that oh if she really had it she wouldn't want to broadcast it(like she should be ashamed or something) why are people so mean or immediately try to say something is fake because they feel something is off? It's a personality disorder, of course her personality may be off duh. I totally support Kya and her entire system 💜
I've watched a handful of her videos and, to me, they hardly seem any different from the nonsense going around on TikTok. The only difference that I can see is that she's had a lot more time and research put into it and she's more experienced with age than most of the other kids who do videos like that.
I honestly don't see much of a difference, but maybe I've just watched the wrong videos.
Found some of her content actually was quite triggering for us, so we’re inclined to believe as it strikes true with us. I would hate to be false flagged like that especially now when we’re finally beginning to understand what’s going on.~A
How many suckers are born every minute?
I have to admit I thought DID was cool when I learnt about it and found all those switching videos interesting but people make use of the content for views and it's so sad to see information about DID falsely spread when there are channels only trying to promote awareness
Doesn't exist in the first place. Nothing cool about it. Just people with severe dissociation or BPD.
@@jht3fougifh393 It def is real dude. lots of studies, its just super rare
@@loonyfn8119 That is not a fact. Not yet anyways. There is an ongoing debate about whether or not it's real.
@Olivia I agree but I was talking about professional opinions. Not all of them admit DID's existence. Plus there is no solid study around it, that's why there's hardly any proof.
Also, I believe it's not entirely like how people at Tiktok and YT are claiming it to be.
I have been following Nin for a long time, and seeing her so hurt by Trish’s video really affected me too, she is 100% right when she said that Trish’s video is really damaging to the DID community. I’m glad you did that video!
Thanks for the comment I was going to say the same thing I would also add who would want to copy this disorder seems kind of odd to me.
Yes! I also think Its important to say it was not only harmful to Nin, but to the whole system.
Is nin encina servera?
I was tearing up during Kyle's video. I hate how caring of a person Nin is, because whenever something like this happens she holds the weight of it alone and it always makes me so sad to see her that way
@@danir9028 no 2 diff ppl
To be fair, Nin has always claimed to be professionally diagnosed. And so did Chloe (the host before Nin) years before it was "cool" to have a disorder.
And by a leading expert in that field of research no less! They provided details regarding the professional who diagnosed them due to the amount of online hate they were receiving calling them fakers. Shame they had to do it at all.
Its been cool to have a disorder since the 90’s I think Nins faking
Brittany Does Things it isn’t cool. It’s extremely debilitating to have any mental disorders and seriously impacts day to day life. She also doesn’t make it seem glamorous.
Brittany Does Things how is having a disorder cool, it effects your personal relationships with others, it effects how others see you, DID is extremely hard to control, memories are effected and you don’t remember certain things
@@thatsyouropinion9434 It wasn't "cool" in the nineties, it has gotten better but boy us mentally ill people have always been treated like shit
Recently I've seen DID used as a mechanism to validate their own trauma and invalidate that of others. I recently stumbled upon a discord server full of people claiming to have DID. I've been told on multiple occasions that my trauma is not as bad as theirs, because I "merely" have CPTSD. I personally don't feel affected by their words, but a lot of other users did. They suddenly started claiming to have DID, multiple alters and episodes just to have their trauma acknowledged. This is just a reminder to not gatekeep trauma. It's not a competition.
Not necessarily saying that they don't have DID, but almost every single person having a PTSD diagnosis started claiming to have DID. There was a lot of ostracizing towards non-DID persons.
Exactly. We and one other system (both diagnosed) have pretty similar system structure but the difference is trauma and members. Also the number of alters. Ours stands at 12 alters, most of whom never front while they have 50+ (idk haven’t counted) and since they are still going through stuff it changes all the time. We still struggle and I (Jynx, the current host) am a fusion and a lot of us are not the first “version” of ourselves because people grow and change.
A lot of yall completely ignored the fact that he is criticizing the switching channels in general, not just Trisha’s obvious faking.
The population of CZcams’s DID community ALONE overrepresents the prevalence of DID, and then it’s strange how this large population of DID patients all decided to have CZcams channels.
The amount I've seen on tictok doing the same thing also, it's unbelievable.
@@romani835 theres a subreddit im on that points out these things
@@barachel6469 yes I know the sub your talking about, pains me how people think it's "quirky" to pretend to have this illness.
Trisha Paytas: Self diagnosed, DissociaDID: diagnosed- even gave the name of her doctor in one of her videos.
And? Nin herself has said that it can take someone up to 7 years to fully get diagnosed with DID. She said it herself that self diagnosing is nothing bad.
@@einhorntaschentuch9404 self diagnosing is good for getting an _idea_ on something. it is useful for next steps advice and actions. HOWEVER, it is _not_ something that should be used as definitive proof that one has a mental illness, and used as an equivalent to a professional diagnosis.
Einhorn Taschentuch yeah no, she actually has said that self-diagnosing is a TERRIBLE idea and encourages people to go to a mental health professional. She tells people that they should do their own research if they think they may have DID, but she never says to self-diagnose. She specifically says not to.
@@einhorntaschentuch9404 sorry but Trisha is "abusing" the self-diagnosis concept. It's ok to have doubts about it and make your own research to understand more about yourself and what you might have (if you actually have something) but she hasn't done that so far. She doesn't know much about what she's talking about and she started saying "maybe I have that too" and now she's like "I HAVE THAT". like yeah sure. why would any normal person claim something like that so seriously without even a proper diagnosis? To me she's trolling (personal opinion from what I've seen so far.)
@@LethallxVanity she wrote a whole article in defence of self-diagnosis only a year ago? www.mentalhealthtoday.co.uk/blog/teach-me-well/a-defence-of-self-diagnosis
Nin is professionally diagnosed and has named her doctor who diagnosed her. She frequently links scholarly articles which she uses to make educational content about DID. She frequently lets us know that she does NOT relish in the fact that she has the disorder. Trisha called Nin crazy so she responded. Also you really should watch Anthony Padillas video on DID which features an interview with Nin. That video is what made Trisha release her “meet the alters” video and it seems as though she saw that attention that that video was getting and decided to hop on the bandwagon. Nin has made an incredibly educational reaction video to Trishas meet the alters video that I also suggest you watch. There is much more back story here that you need to be educated on.
Kate Godfrey Nin and her system’s other alters frequently say how bad DID sucks and how painful it is!
You articulated it perfectly thank you
Dr. Remy Aquarone is actually not licensed to diagnose DID, or any other mental health disorder. He's a psychotherapist, not a psychiatrist. They also diagnose 90% of patients who take their assessment (which has been challenged so much in the psychiatric community that only 2 facilities in all of the UK utilize it, one of which is the Pottergate Centre that Dr. Aquarone is the director of), and 60% of those they diagnose with DID, while only 10% they diagnose with more common disorders such as depersonalization disorder and derealization disorder.
So many people come here to challenge a PhD clinician supervisor for saying that dramatizations/sensationalizing depictions of DID of this nature are commonly suspected to be malingering disorder, and not truly DID, because they don't match up with what the very rare authentic cases of DID look like.They more closely resemble media portrayals and miss less common, more debilitating aspects that aren't accounted for in those media portrayals, even ones based on true stories. The most publicized cases of DID, which happen to look very much like the ones Dr. Grande is discussing, over history have been proven to be fabrications, the most famous example being that of Sybil.
He doesn't infer that she is or isn't faking or has or does not have the disorder, he simply is stating that he doesn't know, which is the ethical thing to do. It's his job to scrutinize and hold clinicians accountable for providing proper diagnoses and treatment plans. He's not going to say that either of them have or do not have this, because he's not treating either of them.
Cher still though, he should have done his research on her channel and the situation. Nin says she has been professionally diagnosed and he didn’t mention that once. I think he should have been clearer on Nin’s standpoint on this situation.
@@kategodfrey910 I already covered that Remy Aquarone is not licensed to diagnose mental disorders and illnesses. His standpoint is that her behavior does not match what you would typically see with someone with a dissociative disorder. Almost anyone can go to Pottergate and get a dissociative diagnosis because they ignore the fact that *everyone* dissociates, and they do not also consider the diagnostic criteria of evidence of prolonged childhood trauma (which is generally overwhelming because of childhood sexual abuse). They also ignore detachment from primary givers as a requirement. As a private practice, parents are often the ones lovingly supporting and footing the bill for treatment, and, like Nin's parents, are desperate to understand what they missed or did wrong. Typically, a clinician who assesses someone without evidence of sustained childhood trauma and broken parental relationships will rule out dissociative disorders at that point.
They use a self-reporting diagnostic questionnaire and a chat with a psychotherapist that takes ~4 hours. You will be hard-pressed to find a mental health professional in the UK that isn't associated with one of these two clinics (Pottergate and the one in London) that will acknowledge that she is "professionally diagnosed".
That being said, I'm not sure without discussing with Nin and her psychiatrist (if she had one) if he would acknowledge she had the disorder, or that she had been diagnosed. Many clinicians, like he alludes in his video, find channels like hers to be problematic. Mentioning that she believes she was professionally diagnosed would validate something clinicians don't want to validate.
The problem with the faking of DID on tiktok is because it is profitable. They are making money. We are rewarding bad behavior with money. Not only money, but attention. There is a very VERY sad reality that people with DID have that no one realizes, there is a 70% chance of attempted or successfully committing suicide with this disorder. 70%. That is a HUGE amount of people of the 1% who actually have it. This is painful, it minimizing the horrors that these people have went thru. I'm sorry to those people who have legitimate DID. I'm sorry you went thru something so traumatic you had to split to cope. You are valuable. You are strong! You are loved in a healthy matter!
I really appreciate the comments defending DissociaDID. Chloe and then Nin went through so much and now Kya is going through a lot as well.
bffr
In the end trauma processing is always for anyone to go through..
She seems to be holding up pretty well though imho ❤
@@a_diamond I watch a lot of their channel and support their patreon and... well. Kind of, kind of not. They've had an incredibly tough time since 2020 for a lot more than just pandemic reasons. :/
@@twiharryfan212 life with PTSD is rough in and of itself. People judge others too easily. Too many people seem to think just because they themselves don't suffer from something, or understand it, that therefore no one else is either..
It must be hard to have had the pandemic on top of everything else.. I know it's been hard for my end of the screen for sure..
❤️
@thelightfantastic There is a countless amount of proof that Kya and their system have experienced the amnesia necessary for DID, and they have been diagnosed with it twice by two different professionals. It's even in official court documents that are available to read from their channel.
Your concerns are justified, but Kya truly is struggling with all this and has been for a long time. The goal of their channel is to try and aid others who struggle with DID, PTSD, and other mental health issues and part of that is by showing their reality.
It only takes one “fake” to put a shade the entire community of legitimate claims. We’ve seen this in sexual assault too. One story of someone making a false claim allows people to write off ever other claim they hear as fake DESPITE the statistics that prove the number of false claims is quite low compared to true claims.
Unfortunately
It’s fucking sad. One mistake or a troll may discredit a whole community.
I agree with your stance.
To play devils advocate however, even if the numbers are low, it shouldn’t make the real cases of false claims invalid.
on the flip side, they can ruin someone’s life socially, financially, and mentally.
I hate she doesn’t care about the effect she has on the communities she inserts herself into. Just post missinformation and move on to another community to get attention
Honestly that’s why i think we should punish these trolls far more then we do, because unfortunately their stupidity has an impact and it makes it harder for people to really understand mental illness. She should be deplatformed, since she obviously is only doing this for money and attention... let’s take away the incentive
"I'm accustomed to educational content, and Trisha Paytas does not qualify" 🤣🤣🤣 the intellectual shade! But true though. I get it.
Hello Dr. Grande, I just wanted to share a personal experience on this topic. I’m a retired RN who worked in a large teaching hospital years ago. I was working on the psych. Ward one day and this hospital did get a few patients with true MPD, because one of the psychiatrists was considered an “expert” in the study and care of MPD.
I was walking down the hall and glanced at a young woman sitting in the common area. I went in a room, did whatever, and when I came out, and passed this young woman the second time, I could tell she was someone different, without ever saying a word between us. Her entire demeanor and even her physical appearance had changed. And, to me, I was sure this new personality was a male sitting there.
Just thought I’d share that with you as you might find it interesting.
Comparing having to watch someone’s vlogs to time spent in the exclusion zone of Chernobyl has got to be one of the most masterful reads I’ve ever heard in my life.
“I had to build up my cognitive reasoning skills back up after watching her first video”
Goddamn 😂 imagine getting roasted this savagely by Dr Todd
Eddie Pollau lmfaooooo he literally is saying some of his brain cell died watching her videos I cannot
I needed this humor today; Dr. Grande wins the internet today!!!
😂 This had me spint! LMAO
I had to pause the video to laugh out loud. That was the driest, most humorous burn of all time. Don't worry Dr. Grande, I feel the same way any time Trisha Paytas comes across my feed.
"She mentions that two of her alters have all but died- and I was wondering... 'Did they die of embarrassment from making that video?' "
We need a burn unit stat!
Mara delete this now 🤣
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Mara 😂😂😂😂
DissociaDID is not a trending “switching” channel, nin and her system are dedicated to debunking sitigma’s and informing people about DID
I can’t imagine having to watch this woman for hours and hours for research. Thank you Doctor
Nin and her systems channel is about partly educating and partly bringing the community together but 100% ABOUT REMOVING THE STIGMA SURROUNDING DID
I’m just having a hard time believing that someone who labels their Patreon tiers after their alters (and advertises paid hang-outs with specific alters... what?) is genuinely trying to “end the stigma”
@@mads597 I get where you are coming from, but Nin and her system do have to earn money and having these kind of click-bait titles does help, which then can further her ability to spread awareness, also I think its perfectly normal for her to advertise chats with specific alters, people can feel connected to them or want to talk to them about there trauma. :) Hope this helps
@@mads597 Fighting for a noble cause doesn't mean you have to be perfect. In my opinion Nin can absolutely try to bring awareness about DID while wanting to make money out of it. It's actually a smart thing to do since she can spend more time on CZcams, and she should be praised for it, as long as money doesn't affect its primary goal.
Does no one know what's going on in the DID community or...? Because she's not liked by most channels.
Edit: a word
Mads Johnson she uses clickbaity titles on purpose to get peoples attention so she can inform them (she mentions this in a video) and I’m betting that people asked for special chats to talk to specific alters because some seem really popular *cough Kyle cough* Also we don’t blame therapists or teachers for working for money
DissociaDID has said outright that she purposely makes "clickbaity" titles to get viewers to watch the cause. AKA putting the "switch on camera" in the title to draw in viewers. She does this knowingly, reporting this is to help with spreading awareness. Also I want to add that Nin has portrayed the disorder as quite terrifying and saddening... She does not make it look trendy at all if you watch her regularly.
I've started to see negative comments about nin and i didn't understand. I guess is about the clickbait? And that she monetize her videos. I think its stupid to criticize that, but im worried im missing some information or something about her maybe? Idk
Rena She clickbaits her videos because it works. She even admits it. Clickbait isn’t necessarily bad she wants to get people’s attention with putting switch on camera in the title and then teach them. That’s what happened to me. I wanted to see a switch and ended up learning a lot from her. There’s also in my opinion nothing wrong with monetizing educational videos. For example, Bill Nye made money off his show but not as many people care.
Ruby Rose the disorder is scary for US. someone without DID shouldn’t think WE are scary.
trauma disorders are, by nature, pretty scary.
@@marissam3176 i 100% agree
@@mrspo7012 thats my point, i dont get y people criticize that. But maybe theres more about them i dont know
Hello. We are a diagnosed DID system of 4. We are also majoring in psychology for what’s that’s worth. I wanted to give you some constructive criticism, Dr. Grande, about this video. The first thing I wanted to say, is while DissociaDID is not a perfect angel who has never done an off-colour thing, they are not a switching channel. They have switched on their channel, usually involuntary. It just happened to take place on camera most of the time. They have far more videos not switching. They were a channel dedicated to showing what life with DID is like, and switching is part of their life and part of DID, thus switch was caught on camera at times. They did do a forced switch once for demonstrative purposes.
Also, you are entitled to be whatever kind of creator you’d like to be, but if you’d like this to be a professional doctoral analysis, I wouldn’t insult the people you are analyzing. Again, I don’t think Trisha is a perfect person by far either, but it is my personal belief that your roasts of them could be considered unprofessional.
I’m a fan of what you’re doing with your channel, this video just did not sit right with me in a few ways.
- Charlie
Being diagnosed with DID I would say I am NOT happy to have this. It’s a fight within yourself everyday and it’s not easy to deal with whatsoever for me.
I think it's important to note that Nin (or Chloe, at the time) started her channel 2 years ago, before this was a popular topic. Trisha's video came out right after Anthony's video, when DID was a trending topic.
All what you are saying literally has nothing to do with knowing if she is faking or exaggerating or not. There was a youtiber who grew a huge channel many years ago. Even before Nin, she was not exactly faking, but she came forward saying that the attention and her therapist made her try to please they by exaggerating and increasing the number of disassociation. She changed her therapist and was doing well now. Nobody can say wjo is faking it, sometimes not even themselves.
@missymani I don’t think they meant to prove she was faking it or not. I think they just meant that DissociaDID did not create her channel as a part of a recent “trend” like Trisha Paytas videos seemed to be created for.
As to whether she is faking it or exaggerating it. I don’t know for certain but she seems incredibly sincere from the content I have watched. She presents science based evidence (though only the kind that prove it’s existence), encourages people to treat those with DID with kindness and not like they are from the movie Split; and discourages people from thinking that it is cool to have DID. It just seems very different from what I would consider someone “faking” a disorder would be like. Trisha’s videos seem a lot more like what someone faking would act.
Dissociadid is also being treated by a trained professional.
Mary Bell that is a great point!
felt like listing the reasons why i'm still mad about his whole "situation":
1. trisha really went and MOCKED a little from Nin's system who fronted on Anthony Padilla's video. it was super obvious and disrespectful.
2. also her "defending herself" when Anthony called her out. so, yeah.
3. her implying that the one "faking it" is Nin
4. her still defending herself with something along the lines of "nobody know what's going on inside my head"
5. the f-ing thumbnail on her "switch caught on camera" thing
6. also shes know for being a "youtube troll", but the diSRESPECT IS UNBEARABLE.
7. in her "coming out as ftm transgender" video, she literally said that she had a problem with they/them pronouns because it sounds like "multiple people", then all of a sudden referring to herself as we/us. like, b*tch, make it make sense!
8. the thousand "switches" she had on the "switch caught on camera" thing. wasn't it supposed to be just one??
9. Nin and her system do NOT deserve any of this. for years she's been trying to breaking the stigma around this disorder just for a fake tanned b*tch to come and f-ing claim it
10. i have a lot more reasons but im tired of typing. also nobody is going to read this lmao. i'll leave now.
this is a mess and a half but at least i'm done ;-;
ps. obviously i also have to say that i loved the subtle roast so i subscribed(:
Also Nin repeatedly said she wasn't in any way implying that Trisha didn't have did, she was just correcting her misinformative stances
Thank you
I helped Nin (Chloe at the time) notice that she had her littles names in her videos I was the new subscriber, I am very protective of them this whole situation really made so angry. Trisha doesn't realize what she's done. I doubt that she even cares.
Read it all agreed with it all
Also she once identified as a chicken nugget...
"Did they die of embarrassment?" I am so thankful your channel exists, educational and comedic! I can't thank you enough for these!
I personally have OSDD 1b, which is basically a less severe version of DID, It's DID without the amnesia between alters.
I absolutely hate seeing others fake DID and I hate Trisha for it. And I fully believe that the dissociaDID system (or however its spelt) is a genuine DID system. I watch their videos and when they catch a switch on camera, it feels genuine, I know exactly what they're going through because I go through it too and with my personal experience I think it's real
Relatable
DissociaDID has been diagnosed with DID, trisha just said she’s been diagnosed with «traits» of bpd and so on. DissociaDID has been making videos on DID for years, Trisha just started when it was a trending topic. DissociaDID has had to stop livestreams several times due to being triggered and getting flashbacks, Trisha has a thousand ads in her recent «DID» videos. I think it’s pretty clear whose faking and not. Or at least, their intentions are clear.
She recently closed 2 years on CZcams, but time doesn't mean anything when it comes to reality.(DID)
Trisha is faking it
And to make it even worse, in one of her latest videos, Trisha put a link on the description claiming that DissociaDID was faking. That made me hella mad.
Trisha has also said many times that she's never seen a doctor or anyone about her mental issues and hasn't ever been diagnosed but then she also contradicts herself all the time too her story is always changing.
@@valhersa29 she is faking it....it's obvious, if you can't see that you're blind.
Actually, I think TP said she's never actually been diagnosed (by an actual doctor), that she is self diagnosed (probably by Dr. Google)!
"Depression caught on camera, like here I am looking really sad." Had me in tears, oml
You should've filmed it
I've had dissociative symptoms, but not to that extreme. I have ptsd and if I've had something really stressful or traumatic happen I can "check out" I guess. It's scary, dibilitating, and one of the worst experiences I've had. Even making soup or getting a glass of water becomes nearly impossible. It's so hard. I can't imagine going through worse. People on tiktok and yt make it seem like a fun joke or like an exciting adventure. If I only experience low level dissociation related to my ptsd, it can't be easier and fun to experience something more extreme like DID. I just can't believe it's this cool thing they make it out to be. I also don't want anyone to see me like that. I know it's not normal and I know asking for help when it happens would make ppl think something bad about me.
God I'm having flashbacks to all the DID dreamjournal accounts i encountered from my college days 17 years ago. somehow, amazingly, every single one was like "yeah no trauma DID doesn't need trauma to occur." I didn't trust any of them - they all just seemed like someone's weird writing exercises.
I've seen dumb kids on tiktok saying their "trauma" that caused their DID was being yelled at by their parents, or not being allowed to wear their emo/punk/goth style of clothing or shit like that... utterly ridiculous.
I don't want to start drama in the comments but i would definitely not call DissociaDIDs channel a "SWITCH" channel because they do a lot more than that. Great video all in all
They also put switch in the title to make it clickbatty on purpose to get people to click on it so they can learn about the disorder
Mr Expert it’s not clickbait if it actually happens in the video. Trishas was clickbait cause she is faking it. However I see the point of view you have. 🙌🏻😁
@@FordPrefect_42 It's not clickbait if it's real. Trisha's on the other hand were.
@Shamey Ames sure go on doctor.
Shamey Ames Do you not know anything about DID or trauma in general? They’re already suffering from trauma that they’re processing then to go through this as well, it’s too much and they can’t cope and guess what? Splitting is a coping mechanism!
Nin explained in a few videos why she uses clickbait titles like "switch caught on camera" or "triggered on livestream". She prefers not to use those titles, but she still has to make money and those titles make a video very interesting to click on. Calling DissociaDID a "switching channel" doesn't feel right to me. Yes they do switch on camera but that's not what their channel is about. It's about education and insights in a life with DID. They are more than just a "switching channel", this just feels like minimizing their content to clickbait. (I didn't mean to sound rude or anything, I really liked the video)
For me, it's not always like that. Sometimes she discussed the least popular stuff on her channel, like the mental health stuff.
I’m sorry, but I watched the video in which she explains why she puts click-bait-y words in the title yesterday and from what I can remember, she didn’t really say it was about the money. It could be that we watched different videos, but from what I saw, Nin explained that (sorry for the poor english and very, very simple summary) she uses those titles to attract more viewers because she wants to spread awareness. People will get curious and click, and hopefully, leave with some information and newly gained knowledge. I’m not saying that the financial gain part isn’t important, but she didn’t really mention the profit she personally makes!
He has been disrespectful in this video towards the Dissociadid system
Kim I watched that video too and that’s exactly what she said, and that ‘clickbait’ title system was what got me to click on her videos in the first place. I actually found out recently that my friend found her channel the exact same way, which is evidence to show that this is helping to spread knowledge about DID out into the world.
Ruby Wilson Ah! I’m so glad what I wrote here made sense, and that it didn’t spread false info about Nin’s video. It’s funny, ‘cause I used to actively avoid those “clickbait” videos when I first subscribed to their(the system’s) channel - because I misunderstood their intention. Now I just hope that people won’t make the same mistake. Just give their channel a chance, because the videos are so informative. Even in the face of youtube drama they try to stay neutral and supportive of people with mental disorder.
I would like to point out that when someone spends a significant amount of their time in front of a camera like Kya (Nin's merged host)) for her channel, she is bound to capture switching on film. Since her channel is about DID, her having videos where she shows what switching can look like is part of the point.
For me as a person with diagnosed cptsd (trauma related disorder, same as DID) this video was really validating. I’m not faking because it is a struggle! It is hard, painfull, definitly not fun or cute. Flashbacks, anxiety, constant hate for myself… and of course trauma.
I cant imagine what’s on minds of these people thinking that it’s cute to have a trauma-related disorder ...
Not sure if anybody said this already but Chloe used to never show her switches on camera, unless it's specifically a "meet an alter" video, bc she fears people would think she's faking it. But as time pass, she realized that not showing other alters and her switches on camera means she is denying them of their existence and right to the body.
I'm a pooping unicorn and that people would say she was faking anyways because if Nin never showed switches then people would say they’re faking it because they don’t switch. she even has a vid where she says the name of the doctor who diagnosed her and people are still skeptical
She said in a recent video I think that she thinks showing her switches is important because it helps other people with DID to see it as more normal, and not something that necessarily needs to be hidden. You can see people in the comments who are very thankful she shows the switches for those exact reasons. She also says that her switches are a lot more noticeable than the average person with DID (and watching other channels showing switches you can see this is true) so it helps even more to help people accept their DID symptoms that aren't easy to hide.
The problem with that line of thinking is that it is possible to fully integrate into a singular personality. And because of that, it seems damaging to focus on keeping the mind split and shattered, instead of showing the progress of bringing the pieces back together.
It reminds me of someone who says they want to keep some of their aspects of their eating disorder, but that they have found a healthy way to live with it.
Léda Remy Aquarone cannot diagnose anyone. He is not authorized to do such a thing. He is a psychotherapist and only a psychiatrist can diagnose someone with a mental illness. He also tends to “diagnose” almost all of his patients with DID which again is shady.
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Yes. I came to realize it because of this drama. I still don't tell that DissociaDID is faking but it's bother me so much that she refered to him as a doctor one of her videos. I don't follow her anymore. Not just because of this but I don't like how she handled this drama.
DissociaDID is diagnosed, Trisha isnt, I'd just like to clarify that
Nin 100% supports self-diagnosis.
@@Boudica1313 ??
camo Nin from DissociaDID supports people diagnosing themselves and learning as much as they can about the disorder prior to getting an official diagnosis. She says it multiple times in her videos. She also said it as Chloe.
@@Boudica1313 that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Nobody should self diagnose, not even doctors
@@hawk535 shes said it in the sense that some people cant get a diagnosis due to not having funds for a doctor or being embarrassed and/or scared to get a diagnosis or have to talk about their trauma. Self diagnosing isnt an official diagnosis but if you are genuinely informed and have alters then saying the fact you have "DID" within conversation or in order to receive advice is ok as long as you do not claim it's an official diagnosis or you are completely misinformed on what DID is. It is a hard diagnosis to get and can take a long time to get and some people may be in the middle or starting to get help for it without a diagnosis but being able to put a name to what you have when talking about what's happening to you can help the others around you understand.
"I was happy to see that an article was involved at any level"
The bar is so low 😭
Dr. Grande, thank you for your analysis. I’m a nurse and have come in contact with many different patients, and all I can say is none of my patients who were genuinely diagnosed with a mental health disorder finds it as exciting as many of these CZcamsr make it out to be. Also, I have to say thank you for reminding me that in spite of what I myself think about these CZcamsrs, they still might have another issue and maybe holding my peace and keeping my two cents to myself is just the kindest thing to do. Loved the video, thank you for your content.
I would never say I ever thought Nin was “lucky” for having DID. That being said, I believe DID to be very much a real disorder and I respect Nin for her channel. She is very well informed and a great advocate for DID. It’s people like her who spread awareness on the subject that can really make change within the community.
Dude, you're like the Bob Ross of roasting people. So intelligent and with such a soothing voice. Fucking refreshing.
No but imagine if Bob Ross really did start roasting people 🤣
I want to like this but I don’t want to ruin the perfect 420 likes
🤣🤣
@Alixisnotok Apparently Bob Ross was a loud asshole during his military service in the Air Force
@@hailbones6663 Just a happy mistake.
Everyone who switches alters doesnt switch clothes and makeup. The alters just suddenly surface and the persons personality, demeanor, and voice changes then after some time switches back. One of my ex therapists told me that his clients had an eyes roll up right before an alter surfaced.
I was seeing a counselor back in the 1980s who was obsessed with multiple personality disorder which is now known as DID. He stated that 95% of his clients had DID. He also denied that the disorder has a gender bias.
This is the real redpill. The vast majority of DID cases are diagnosed by a tiny fraction of practitioners. That should make anyone suspicious.
She said in h3h3's latest podcast that she has not been diagnosed with anything before. She gives herself these. She's also a trans man, lesbian, black woman and a nugget🤷♀️
Aaand she just married a cardboard cutout of Brad Pitt.
Dont forget tellytubby
Can she just make her mind up about the BPD statement already? She's been using that one for years and at this point, the speculation is killing me.
HQHQHAHAHAHA i forgot about her identifying as a chicken nugget. The doctor should know that so he can respect her pronouns. Nug-e and nug-em.
She's also a gay man that does drag, and she used to be a fly when she was 6(her words).
Honestly, it's hurtful to call someone with any mental illness "crazy”
Brandon Miller Why don’t you go cry about your ignorance and insensitivity?
But it is also hurtful to call such a person sane.
I've had so many mental break downs infront of this particular person as i felt safe with them... they called my crazy and psyco.. and although im still close to them I can't let myself go in front of then anymore.. which is damaging for me because when im alone im not safe... when they called me that it didn't just hurt me emotionally it hurt my mental state which led to a physical type of hurt...
Kevin Hornbuckle - Although I could not place Trisha in the category of sane, she is human and demonstrates behavior indicative of a need for therapeutic intervention, but certainly not for DID.
Toad wii remote With motionplus inside Can you avoid this person?
About 18 months or so ago I saw my first healthy advocates for DID (including Entropy System and the system on CZcams going by DissociaDID ( Nin, Chloe, et al). Not referring to the switching on camera stuff (which was a very small portion of the provided supportive and educational content), I was a little shaken by how familiar what I was watching felt. Spoke with my doctor and he mentioned OSDD for the 1st time. We have worked together for years on my recovery from traumas. {I knew I had cPTSD and developmental trauma, plus later prolonged severe trauma. Had not considered or understood enough before about dissociative disorders.} Fast forward, studying structural dissociation and IFS, it has become clearer how I need to progress in my own recovery work. I am thankful for those who do honest work in sharing their processes. I also know of the woman who survived horrific abuse and was featured on Australian 60 Minutes (many "parts" in her system, she was abused as a very young child to the degree that she required surgeries to somewhat recover). However, I never before tonight heard of this "Trisha" person and thanks to DissociaDID and this, I won't subject myself to her content.
I have not finished this video, but have some degree of respect for this guy. I sure hope he doesn't mess this up.
I thought you would find this update interesting. She spoke about this incident on the H3 podcast. Her explanation was that, because she dissociates with BPD, DID really resonated with her and I truly believe it did. However when people started calling her out, she decided “okay you think I’m faking? I have to switch on camera for you to take me seriously? I’ll give you the show you want.” She was essentially mocking and responding to the people who were trying to tell her about her own mental health and struggles. Watching that podcast has been very eye opening for what she struggles with.
Trisha Paytas is pathetic.
"She said she'll never talk about this again. I was kinda hoping she would follow through with that"
Lmao
I wish that statement was true but she's now just gonna post hateful videos about DissosiDID on her second channel
“She mentions that two of her alters have all but died and I was wondering did they die of embarrassment from making that video?”
THIS IS WHY I LOVE DR GRANDE
One of her alters (omega) was created after a very close call with a suicide attempt.the alter was created as a ghost... Sooooo
@@willowconnolly3243 yep I agree Omega was an trauma holder before
I have DID. You cannot film switching. You’re so out of your mind and fuzzy that you can’t film. Like you can hardly remember to breathe you’re so dissociated. There is no way you can film it
Getting a diagnosis for DID or OSDD isn’t easy. Especially if you have any financial constraints/ under the age of 18. Personally my psychiatrist suspects we have something similar to DID such as OSDD but doesn’t want to label it until he sees more of our symptoms. This disorder has turned our world upside down. The flashbacks are confusing and disgusting. I don’t wish this on anybody.
Lol. “I was wondering if they died of embarrassment” lol I was not expecting that.
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I love when he gets real like that!😂😂
Yeah I died laughing at that. I had to pause the video for a minute so I could finish the video. I love him he's so savage and yet stays professional.
I died
@@maureenbutton7693 Wry. He’s wry. 🤓💕
Dr. Grande, this whole thing where Trisha started "claiming" that she has DID (I use the word claiming because I don't know if she actually does or not) all started when a popular CZcamsr named Anthony Padilla posted a video about interviewing people/systems with DID, one of those interviewees were Nin, DissociaDID. The video was fairly popular. Trisha saw that it was popular and hoped on the band wagon and with that called Nin, DissociaDID a person/system who's been diagnosed with DID crazy. Nin and her system, along with Anthony Padilla found out about that particular video and have called Trisha out on it, saying that it's hurtful to people with DID. Trisha then posted a video on Instagram (I think) yelling and screaming at Anthony and Nin, cussing them out about it. That's the summary of the CZcams drama. And I ask for you to not go to Trisha's channel because that gives her the views that she wants and does not deserve. Please do checkout Anthony's video on DID, it will help you see how Nin and her system works. And once you see that video (which was posted before any of Trisha's DID videos) you will be able to tell that Trisha was mimicking Nin and her system, further hurting Nin's system and the rest of the DID community.
It's not DisassociaDID, it's DissociaDID
@@danielaodairabernathy1316 Oops, my bad. I'll fix that. Thank you for pointing that out!
I totally dislike that Anthony dude. Heard some talk about him from h3h3.
@@mrmojorisin241 What did you hear? Now I'm curious. :c
mrmojorisin241 H3H3 didn’t even know who Anthony was in that video. Ethan got all his info from Trisha. You should maybe watch Anthony’s video to get the whole picture.
I am in semi-remission of dissociation. I was diagnosed in 2014. before that, I was diagnosed with major depression, PTSD, anxiety disorder, and panic attacks disorder. I can tell you dissociation is scary. I remember I had to pinch or slap myself to determine if I was awake or asleep. I cannot imagine people with DID it must be extra painful. I still have episodes from time to time.
For me, because I come from an African background where these things are taboo and consider to be evil doing it makes it harder for me to seek help in my later adult life. Also, the lack of health insurance coverage (my private insurance refuses to cover it until I pay all my premiums fees) also adds to that frustration. But I do believe DID exists because I suffered from dissociation which is nothing close to DID but it is still very painful. This is why I refused to watch inception, Freddie Krueger or Tenet. If she is faking it then shame on her.
My history is extreme child abuse and war.
Sorry. Wishing you well.
Also, for someone who lives with ADHD/aspbergers, tics that I've had since I was a small child, OCD and developing PTSD after severe trauma as well with a rare genetic physical disorder
I break down to the point I can't control my bladder when I don't do my rituals. It's horrible and it breaks me. My fiance, he has patience that shouldn't be able to exist but he has it, he has dealt with so much its.. just Incredible. He allowed me to read his diary just to be able to somewhat understand his side of things. It's not only me if affects.
He once folded the clothing I had just brought up from the laundry,
I broke down to the point I was hospitalized for weeks because he did it wrong and I am the one who has to do it.
Once when he did something to be helpful, i felt it messed up my rituals and I worry something bad will happen to him, my dogs, my family etc
And it did. He was in a car accident and him +3 other people nearly lost their lives that day. This intensified how critical I feel my rituals are. My ritual was messed up and the love of my life nearly died from it.
And people try to fake this? Does this seem funny to you?
I've spent so much time at the hospital over the years, starting from the age of 4.
I've been hospitalized at different hospitals all over the country due to the severity of my physical and mental health and the complexity of it.
And it's not fun, it's not a trend and I would do anything to be able to live a life functional enough so that I could have a job, any job, even just for an hour or two a week, ANYTHING. Just to do something normal, to feel I can be and do more than just trying to get through the day, something more than just being a bunch of letters combined.
People really take for granted how good they have it if they are healthy.
And it infuriates me to the point that I didn't know was possible.
People who suffer and are for real sick?
I'm sorry for your struggles.
Life is still worth it and I hope you ask for help
My grandpa taught me that true strength is being able to show weakness and ask for help, because anyone can just put a fake smile on and pretend everything is fine.
Take care of each other
To the people who fake it?
I wish you nothing but to actually getting something that will permanently affect you as severely or preferably more than what you pretend.
That is the only fitting punishment in my opinion.