❗Common Questions❗ 1. Grandfather vs Normal Weapon - Grandfather is only good for Holy Bolts speed farming 2. Vulnerable : CSD ratio - According to Wu Wang, the best ratio is 0.6:1 meaning you need 600% for 1000% CSD, which increases lineary and thus the more CSD you have, the more vulnerable you need to match it. ❗IMPORTANT❗And for 2000% CSD you would need around 1400% Vuln (0.7:1 ratio) so You might need Vulnerable temper on one of the 2H and masterwork it Wu Wang's Calculator (translation by Pxx) of CSD and Vulnerable DPS - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qF_lWWEAC3v-X22Fo2-4JsB76uF_5iMjICfG-O2e-b4/edit?gid=1108664127#gid=1108664127 3. STR vs HP gems in armor - Keep removing Rubies and replacing them with Amethyst till the point you no longer feel comfy (personally I run only Amethysts and 41k hp in T150+ runs) 4. AS vs STR on rings - According to some early AS breakpoint tests (NOAO for Sanctuary discord), 1x GA AS is the best for overall DPS 5. Flay Duration vs CSD - CSD masterworking will grant you more AoE, while also providing ST (single target) damage increase vs Flay Duration which provides the maximum ST damage 6. Consumables - Precision Elixir for AoE and Advantage for the boss (AS and lucky hit helps with 100% uptime on all skills) , Soothing Spices for Resistance cap and Chorus of War with Ancient Times for stats to get more damage and proc 6th board rare nodes for MAX DR in the board 7. Rotation - In AoE we just mash all buttons at all times 😂 make sure to reapply vulnerable in AoE with Steel Grasp. In ST we try to keep berserking up at all times through war cry and Steel Grasp, using Iron Skin BEFORE shouts to get its cooldown back ASAP and Rupture whenever Wanton Aspect is up (Golden border around Rupture) 8. Edgemaster vs Wanton on 2H - Adjust based on your build❗With triple crit on Tempers (CSD or Vuln, if we want to reach 0.6 ratio from Wu Wang, we would need to get 1x Vuln temper on 2H as well) I would probably go for Wanton to get way more boss DPS, unless I had a lot of trouble with mobs 9. How to push - TLDR we have to fish for good enemies and boss, which is kinda boring 10. How to get CSD or Vulnerable tempers - You need to make a rogue to temper it there 11. Is %Damage double dipping for Bleeds - YES docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hXoEyZaz73EU3yAtUVcSgO9f15lMNILUWMzzgp7Eeks/edit?gid=1355148910#gid=1355148910 (Credits to people who concluded these tests)
I have 2100 CSD and 1350 vulnerable, warcry bots +6 flay +7 and Cut to the bone +7, dmg berserkibg 300% and cri chance 70%. Why I hit only 1,2 bilion ? How to reach 2,3 bilion hits? I need a amulet with heavy handed too ? Dmg come from that ?
Same as with Rend last season, where ring of the Ravenous was 80% damage increase thanks to extra 4 seconds duration = more stacks of bleed and thus higher tick and more ticks to consume for rupture = more damage. The same thing happens with flay duration, that is what makes it so op 💪🏻 and Blizz should add Rend duration temper if they ever wanna fix the fact that we now only play basic skills for the highest clears.
@@atty.danilotuazon8776 well, the whole AoE component of Flay build is Rupture, so basically you just need to ktie mobs with steel grasp really well and spam the hell out of it 😂 it deals quite a lot of damage actually 😁 especially if you replace rubies in armor like myself with amethysts for more STR as rupture is quadrupledipping in in it.
What are the exact stats of your character??? critical damage, critical hit chance? vulnerable damage? force?? I would appreciate the response, greetings from Venezuela!
your build has a barrier up so often id almost call it a barrier barb. It is definitely the most balanced build ive seen for barbarian. Great build. Great vid i can see why ur runs are so successful. That gear looks amazing.
Hello! Thank you for the sources indicated and the informative description of the video. After following the link to the calculator and playing a little with the calculator numbers, I came to the conclusion that the more vulnerable damage the better. Not to mention the ratio of 0.6:1 (3:5), which was not confirmed by my tests in the calculator. For example: 1000 crit, 600 vuln = 28,600 actual damage; 1000 crit, 2500 vuln = 70,400 actual damage and so on. What do you think about it?
Hey mate! 😁I am glad you like the content. Keep in mind though that vulnerable is much harder to get than CSD :) because both tempers and affixes on CSD are waaaaay higher. Also the gain from wrath and then we have HH. So that much vulnerbale is not really obtainable without losing a lot of other stats, possibly all the CSD :D but yeah, vulnerable is extremely strogn because it is double dip to our additive bucket and then turns into multi throug hemo 💪
I dont really understand the sheet. Do i have to just write my vul and crit dmg into the first lines and then just raise one to See its effect? I switched one crit to vul on a 2 handed weapon now att 1200 vul to 2000chd . But thanks to cut to the bone i lost 500chd for 200 vul feels not worth it for me.
@@danielrosch1466 put crit, vuln, gf or no, cttb ranks, then u have two fields in th middle, put some values either crit or vuln, for example 20 vuln or 25 crit to imitate gem choice
I notice you don't have steel grasp stuns on pants or CC reduction duration on some of the other items and seems to be mainly replaced by barrier regeneration. what was your reasons for that? thanks!
Hey 😁 eventually, once you get good gear and mostly used to the build, steel grasp stuns makes you go slower. Used it in the past as it made me very tanky as the initial grouping of mobs made them stunned and thus they couldn’t attack me. Barrier generation => bigger barrier through iron skin => we no longer need rubies => more STR for more rupture explosions and dmg in general
Hi Luna, is X’Fals Corroded Signet ever something you’d consider using for flay? Is it any good? I have one with a GA in lucky hit and damage over time
Hey 😁 at this moment Xfal ain’t worth it. The damage it does is minimal, the proc is nothing compared to what it was with 1000% lucky hit rogue in S2 and overall doesn’t give us any good stats 😁
Hi lunatali, would you swap all vulnerable damage to leave haemorrage at 45% to crit or just keep it once s5 hits for the nerf? And just lose the multiplicative part
Hey mate 😁 for S5 we will definitely go down on vulnerable just to reach the perfect 45% as anything above will no longer double dip. What that means is that we will either go full on CSD or that we will go mostly for CSD with a temper or two on close damage (highest raw stat) or DoT affix instead of 1x life (again highest raw stat) to get some base additives before the multipliers hit (as CSD apart from gushing wounds doesn’t affect the formula for dmg)
@@Lunatalli also do you get one shot at 50k hp? Sometimes I get one shot at 100hp. How do you prevent one shot from high level pit bosses or It doesn't happen?:)
@@flamingjob2 I do not :) there is probably just one skill that one shots with 50k HP and it is the circle that keeps getting smaller. For the rest: Rotate CDs. Iron Skin always first, then shouts :) ❗I am not using commanding shout unless I have to for extra DR or to get those last 2 seconds off from Iron Skin ❗ So just rotate Iron Skin with War Cry so that Hectic aspect is prio on these 2 ^^ if I have my barrier and War Cry always up = win 😁
hey luna, would you recommend going 2x MW Crit on weapons for CSD? or is 1x CSD Temper / 1x Vul GA crit masterworking okay? this is for pit148 and above pushing.
I have a random mix to be honest 😁 and it is okay. But overall throughout the run, it’s better to crit on CSD (or vuln) tempers as most of the dungeon is AoE. Flay duration still giga pumps single target though, especially rupture
@@Lunatalli got it! i have crit on CSD and vul tempers right now. so its okay to keep it for the pit clear ya? my greatest struggle is clearing to the boss in high pits. your replies are always so helpful! im now a loyal fan of your videos!
What do you think about season 5? Seems like Gushing Wounds and Hemmorage will take a massive hit. Flay duration as utility temper now. Will be interesting to see if Flay drops from S++ to S or A tier or if there is some new synergy with the free weapon tempers
To be honest? Until I see better tempers for core skills, like rend duration and simply damage boosting tempers, I ain’t impressed 😅🥲 The fact that basic skills can overpower core skills, which are supposed to be the pinnacle of our abilities … don’t like it 🙈 The 45%(x) limit to Hemorrhage will hurt for sure. Also flay duration as a utility temper also means losing barrier generation or CC in PvP, which ain’t good. And there is not really a temper for weapons to replace it with. We could in theory find a synergy with leapquake and flay with earthquake duration, which might give us some absolutely insane damage increase. But how well it will synergise together as we will have to stop flaying for leaps to stack quakes .. Will see 😁 The safest bet will be bash and dust devils in this case as their tempers are the only damage dealing tempers really apart from the offensive stats.
@@Lunatalli I also don't like the fact that basics skills are so strong. I mean 2 tempers on Bash Cleave and suddenly Double Swing looks like a joke. Upheaval is in a weird state and HotA is a damage buff for basic skills :-/. Not sure what the state of Gushing Wounds is though. They fixed some double-dipping but it seems things like Grandfather will still double the damage 🤔
@@flowqi212 well that is how GF works. When you crit (gushing wounds basically allows dot to crit), the damage doubles. What GF does not do though, is increase our CSD additive stat. It was tested in all previous seasons to be just a visual bug and the extra CSD additive in char sheet did not count towards damage of skills. Might have been bugged for GW.
@@Lunatalli I've personally tested it, GF doubles your Gushing Wounds multiplicative damage. Data looks pretty clear. I believe this is why Rob still uses it in most bleed builds. Btw it's the same for Victimize and Vulnerable multiplicative damage for the Rogue.
@@flowqi212 then it is a specific “bug” for GF interaction with GW, because S1, S2, S3 it was tested that GF does not increase the additive CSD, but just doubles the damage, when you crit as a separate multiplier (GF doubling additive CSD instead of being a separate 100%(x) when you crit is actually less DPS). So we had “real crit” values used for calculating the additive bucket of damage. And this season it was tested that even for WW berserk ripping builds polearm is more DPS than GF. There is likely just one build that benefits (bleed one) from GF and that would be bash, because bash benefits from CSD for its own damage which can be hundreds of mil crits.
Hemorhage Paragon node got nerfed, S5 or PTR has 45% cap on it. Will you replace Vulne with Crit Dmg? Also, I think creeping death aspect will be a good to equip to sky rocket bleed damage, I used that heart before in S2 in Poison rogue.
We are one billion percent gonna be running Creeping Death 😍 I will test the new "Bleed damage" tempers as we still need some proper additive bucket before we multiply it all with Grandpapa :)
I really hope my message reaches you , im stuck in pit 145 mostly my problem is AOE but i have relatively better gear than yours and never get above 1.5B bleed ticks I have 1880 Crit Dmg and 1110 Vul dmg and 75% Crit chance and 310% dmg while berserking , i put some Masterworking procs on Vul dmg thinking that it would get me more dmg but it didnt so im wondering if i should swap the vul procs to crit dmg procs ! And if i do i might end up having lower than 0.6 ratio between vul and CSD so please tell me what to adjust
Hey mate 😁 Make sure to have very high rolls on Flay Duration for single target (preferably maxed out) that is one thing. That is what skyrockets your single target damage. Make sure you always drag the boss into some corner etc so that you don’t move an inch (to have inner calm always up) If you are currently running rubies in your gear, try swapping them for amethysts (I personally play with full amethysts and only 41k hp). Make sure that in AoE you drag the mobs and take at least 2-3 elite packs, then you can drag them into some corner to make sure steel grasp hits them all to apply vulnerable at all times and burst them down by spamming all cooldowns nonstop (you can mix max this by only spamming rupture iron skin and war cry for fortify and commanding shout only once every 8 seconds to keep 100% uptime to save yourself a global cooldown) If you haven’t crit twice or three times on your CSC affixes, try to do so to reach 80%+ crit. Use consumables (crit elixir in AoE and attack speed in ST)
Thanks alot for answering at short notice with such great details I currently have ga crits in all my crit items I will make sure to at least double proc them so I can have at least 75% and 80%+ with elixir As for flay duration I have max rolls in my 4 weapons so I was wondering if I should proc flay rolls or CSD
@@MohamedMaouchi-us9mu yeah, double or even triple crits on CSC are super important :) If your problem is mostly AoE than masterworking the TEMPER CSD will give you more value :) as flay duration boosts only single target
@@Lunatalli I want kind of a balanced thing I'll try to get 2 items in triple flay and 2 in triple CSD What is your flay duration btw ? If you do the math that info is super important if you may
hey @lunatalli, im currently stuck on pit 148. i have flay durations 2x crits on my gear. trying to clear 149 but its taking over, alot of times im left with 4mins or less for the boss. do you have any recommendations when fishing for mob type or boss?
Hey mate 😁 Make sure to have very high rolls on Flay Duration for single target (preferably maxed out) that is one thing. That is what skyrockets your single target damage. Make sure you always drag the boss into some corner etc so that you don’t move an inch (to have inner calm always up) If you are currently running rubies in your gear, try swapping them for amethysts (I personally play with full amethysts and only 41k hp). Make sure that in AoE you drag the mobs and take at least 2-3 elite packs, then you can drag them into some corner to make sure steel grasp hits them all to apply vulnerable at all times and that inner calm is up for extra 20%(x) and burst them down by spamming all cooldowns nonstop (you can mix max this by only spamming rupture iron skin and war cry for fortify and commanding shout only once every 8 seconds to keep 100% uptime to save yourself a global cooldown) If you haven’t crit twice or three times on your CSC affixes, try to do so to reach 80%+ crit. Use consumables (crit elixir in AoE and attack speed in ST)
@@Lunatalli thanks so much! this is such a well thought out and detailed answer. right now my problem isnt the boss. i have good rolls on flay duration at pit 149. But my pit clear is slow. would you recommend going more Crit Damage masterworked crits on my weapons? I have a min roll crit chance / CDR / GA Cut to the bone ammy. i can roll off CDR for +skill to Heavy Handed for extra skill rank. would you recommend that for pushing?
@@jaredbogart5461 actually thought it is a comment under my whirlwind video :D sorry about that. This gear is half dropped and half traded on diablo.trade :)
@Lunatalli your tempering is also perfect. Is there a trick to do this? I've done the rogue tempering and all. Tried different tricks and broke half the gear trying to even just get high rolls[over half the range]
A content creater advertice for buying illegal gold for diablo 4, is not trustworthy. I hope blizzard sees this and bans the accounts. Gold sellers and buyers are bad for the game.
Wake up yr bloody idea.. every game in the freaking world is p2w.. whether is pay for ppl time to play or pay for item or account. There is nth u can dk abt it.
@@justinleeweekeng4433 EVERY GAME? where are you getting your facts? he has a point buying illegal gold is not good for the game thats why they get ban. oh and as for the games thats not p2w you can play LoL, Valorant, CS go, PUBG etc.. thats just on top of my head
That is where you are wrong. It is not bad for the game 😁 out of 400 people in my friendlist, I know like 5 who don’t do RMT 😂 out of those 395 I know half who would refund the game if they couldn’t do it, because they want to have fun actually playing it and not farming some boring Helltides for 15 hours a day to get the same as working 1 hour overtime in real life. So you can easily say it is helping the game, because otherwise blizzard would see some refunds. Or do you think anyone would be mad if you could buy better sword in Witcher 3? No. Why? Because it does not affect anyone. Diablo is a single player game with no ranked system, where p2w would give you an advantage. I personally don’t use RMT, as a student I have better things to spend money on, like .. food 😂😂 and still I am in very high pit and don’t care whether others buy their gear 🤷🏼♂️ So no need to be mad, running around asking for others to be punished for something that affects literally no one. Learn to be respectful and kind to people instead 🥰
@@Lunatalli See you just proven me that i was right. RMT is not part of the game, it is not intended for the game, its not a mechanic of the game. its against TOS therefore its a bannable offence. nobody is forcing you or your 400 friends to play the game. you guys cant drop the game if its not fun. RMT ruins the economy for the game. trading stuff is getting more and more expensive because of players that just swipe and get gold using RMT. its easy to get gold but items wouldnt be costing billions if it wasnt for RMT. if your telling me RMT doesnt affect the economy of trading, you are just lying to yourself. of course it affects it. it makes its faster to get your items. get to masterwork 12. reroll your masterwork. instead of farming for gold you just swipe to get those gold, heck even buy the perfect items for rerolling. everyone whose denies that RMT doesnt affect the economy at all is just lying to themselves to make them feel better about it. IM NOT ACCUSING YOU OF RMT OR THOSE 400 since i dont have any proof. im just saying that it does affect players in games if the game is single player. Diablo 4 is not a single player game BTW. getting punish for not following the TOS. is a fair thing to do even if it doesnt affect anyone. you are still breaking TOS, i dont know why it so hard to comprehend that.
Hey luna how does the wanton rupture actually work? I mean do we need to "wait those 25 s so do deal that big bleed dmg? Also is There a way to prevent that the boss sometimes is healing back when we use rupture?
Hey mate 😁 we wait the 25 seconds, yes ☺️ every 25 seconds a golden border will appear around the icon and that is when we can rupture the boss without losing the stacks. That also prevents any healing 😁
@@Lunatalli OHHH i see god damn thanks man i didnt know that lol Well for General play in pits we can rupture all the time i assume and mostly in pushing we want to blow em every 25 sec with wanton right?
@@Lunatalli So as an opener on boss, would u start with a flay then rupture or can we just rupture to get on cd right away ? I don’t really understand how the bleed damage increases when you keep flaying
@@Shakk404 you start with Rupture against the boss, to get the attack speed without consuming wanton rupture, then you just never release flay and keep rotating your shouts with iron skin 😁
So if you are stacking up on flay duration, why no Skullbreaker? Doing 20% of your total bleed stack as direct damage for every stun you do just seems powerful…. On a standard 5s bleed duration that’s 100% of you bleed dps it hits for. So if you are running a 10s bleed duration, that’s tripling your dps (assuming you stun with every hit, which shouldn’t be too hard to get).
We don’t want to run CC on flay build in high pit tier push as we need to drag the monsters with steel grasp 😁 we don’t want them to become unstoppable. Also skullbreaker does nothing vs unstoppable monsters and the boss. There is simply no spot for it 😁 all other options are miles better.
It looks like all the high pit run builds are packing over 4k crit dam. That dont leave much room for vul dam or the 300 berserking dam on the paragon so i guess just go all in on crit dam till u got 4k plus then worry about the other stuff.
Wu Wang calculated the best ratio to be 0.6:1 But the easiest thing you can follow is: vulnerable as an affix on all items and then CSD tempers 😁 if you want to reach wu wangs ratio, you will have to temper one weapon with vulnerable as well 💪🏻 Don’t stack just CSD, that is a huge DPS loss
Ive really been trying to kill lilith lately and struggling on both sorc and barb. Clearly im doing something wrong with the flay build im using from maxroll. Would this be able to do it? I just want my Platinum trophy on ps5 dammit!
I one shot Lilith with 1 flay and rupture 😂 but she can no longer be cheesed. So will this build help you do damage? Yes. Is Lilith fight about damage? Not really. I suggest playing a different amulet and boots, both with movement speed as that will help you avoid the platforms and balls easily 💪🏻 you can even equip grandfather and rubies in all gear to be able to survive 1-3 hits from the balls 😁
If we masterwork dmg while zerking on one of our rings, we can reach 300 zerking cap without Ire while also getting 8%(x) damage boost through Harrogath thorns. But of course Ire is still a viable option to be blade in the blood rage board if that is what you need to reach the cap 💪
Zombies? We love those! 😂 zombies and spiders are the best type. But to be honest? I just keep on mashing buttons and don't pay much attention to them haha. They usually heal when they like stop moving and start wiggling. Keep on kiting them with Steel Grasp collecting more enemies on the way for massive Ruptures 💪
What’s the difference between getting 2 different resis on armor and 3 different on jewelry gems vs getting all resis on everything? Seems all resis it harder to obtain
In AoE fights, it does not matter, I just mash all buttons, Rupture with Harrogath reset all our cooldowns nonstop. In ST, Iron Skin always first before you use shouts. And unless we need to use commanding shout for extra survivability or to get those remaining 2 seconds from Iron Skin, ONLY rotate Iron Skin with War cry so that only those 2 cooldowns are being resetted wih Hectic (Hectic ain't global, but chooses randomly 1 spell on cooldown) and voiala, giga uptime 💪
Yeah, they do unfortunately 🙈 pants I managed to get before anyone even knew Flay existed 😂 and boots I got with STR instead and rolled normal War Cry on it. They were like 8% of the price 💪
I don't understand why we don't use Wrath of the Beserker and it's ultimate or COA... Is COA more dmg or is one better for single target while the other is better for AOE? Anyone?
TLDR: we can’t fit it in. All the crucial skills are already on the action bar and without them, the build would not work ☺️ Plus WotB needs you to spend fury, which we don’t with Flay
why do we need 0.6 ratio? cant we just go full CHD like 2600 CHD and 1k Vul for pushing pits? wont that mean more damage on rupture overall? people keep saying this ratio and that ratio, but if you dont have 0.6 ratio, does that mean a DPS loss?
Generally the easiest thing you can do is just get GA vulnerable affixes everwhere and then CSD tempers with one weapon having vulnerable temper and you are set :) but even if you go for just CSD tempers, you will be fine 😁 vulnerable is simply giga value because it is not only multiplier like CSD, but also an additive contributing to our base additive bucket 💪 1300-ish vulnerable is what you would want for sure. And then, if you have heavy handed on your ammy, you will also have like 2400 CSD easy :)
@@mattitudever90 the easiest thing you can do to max out on bleed ticks is to play with the Wu Wang calculator from the description, But yeah, around that value Sounds right ☺️💪🏻
@@Lunatalli thanks your replies help me so much!!! really appreciate the time and effort to replying to youtube comments. let me play around the calculator.
@@Lunatalli I noticed after swapping over to Crit Damage / Vul Masterwork on my gear, my rupture went down on the target dummy. but if i swap in flay duration masterworks, it goes up. is that normal? i see some creators hitting for 100B on the boss... and so far ive been hitting around 40-60B at most :(
It’s a linear increase. Meaning the less CSD you have, the less vulnerable you need and vice versa. But no one can get 4K crit and 4K vuln 😂 and because vulnerable tempers give very little compared to CSD tempers, I would say the easiest thing to do is still just get vuln on all affixes and CSD on tempers. But hey, according to the Chinese tests and math, the 0.6 ratio is the king 😂
I have flay duration myself and chilling 💪🏻 flay duration = more single target damage. I personally hate grind 😂 so any combination of the 2 is good in my book. 😁
I think so. Because holy bolt is not very good anymore. And if you take a life potion instead, you can switch over a lot of your life paragon nodes for more damage!
@@norbertkover9060 yep. If anything I would say run double life potion and substitute even more life for damage. Maybe even drop life jewels for strength
Holy bolts is bad now, deals almost no damage and so is only beneficial for speed farms, especially with WW and tyrael 😁 In the runs we want to use antivenin as an elixir #1 and then Precision for AoE as elixir #2 and then swap for Advantage vs the boss. Though I personally run with Advantage the whole run as I am poor and can’t waste elixirs like that 😂😂 And of course I have STR gems in all my gear over life even without running double life elixir 😁
In AoE fights, it does not matter, I just mash all buttons, Rupture with Harrogath reset all our cooldowns nonstop. In ST, Iron Skin always first before you use shouts. And unless we need to use commanding shout for extra survivability or to get those remaining 2 seconds from Iron Skin, ONLY rotate Iron Skin with War cry so that only those 2 cooldowns are being resetted wih Hectic (Hectic ain't global, but chooses randomly 1 spell on cooldown) and voiala, giga uptime 💪
Thank you sir for the prompt response. Just a quick question: your Speed Farm titled build in the Planner has a Grandfather. I won't be getting that anytime soon lol. So which build should I follow for Speed farming. Is there one build that can do both tormented boss farming and speedfarming? You have 5 builds in the planner: Can you please list down which one i
How do you get soo many yellow hits!!?? I might see 1 or 2 in every mob in pit 137. Feel like im stuck with no damge. Vulnerable is 1091% Csd is 1948% Even when using steel grasps i get no vul hits. Just straight white? Any ideas man?
white hits are either non crits or bleed ticks (because ticks cannot crit) and yellow hits are direct damage crits. I have 85% crit chance unbuffed so I pretty much crit with all hits 😁
@Lunatalli so pretty much need more crit chance huh? Mine is at 74%..... What would be better to go after csd or chance 1st to get the oercentage up? Thanks for replying so quick too man. Ty!
@@adri9esp366 yeah, it works 😁 but we don’t really want it for flay. All the other options are more damage, so better avoid elements 😁 it is 15%(x) overall, while conceited is 25%(x), edgemasters 20% - 40%(x) on 2hander. And inner calm is 10% at all times and 30% vs the boss 💪🏻
@@adri9esp366 I am running Edgemasters on the 2H :) as it is the better overall as most of the dungeon is against mobs and Wanton does nothing against those ^^
So weird, how did u stack upto 2.5bil bleed dmg. I have even better gear than u also higher flay duration but I can do max 1b4 on the dummy. Can u test on dummy and see whats yr max bleed dmg can reach? Thanks!
Currently managed to get new boots which also have War Cry, I am hitting bosses for 4+ bil tick instead of 3.7 in the vid 💪 Can definitely go even higher if I ever loot double passive amulet with CSC. Had one and it bricked, because tempering is shit 😂 Ga CSC and Ga Cut to the bone ammy. Gone in 5 seconds. Wanted to delete the game at that moment. Haven't played since 🙈 Dummies not as much as I cannot proc barrier there unless playing some shenigans with aspects 😁 you might have your vulnerable to CSD ratio messed up. Also I am playing with over 3000 STR as life is "useless" to me. Damage of mobs don't scale above pit 100 😁
Oh wow, you have some monster stats there 😂 like 250 more CSD and 120 more vuln than me. Have you removed all rubies from armor to get STR? Also very important: how is your crit strike chance. Often people have very good stats overall and then only around 60% crit or something, which ain’t enough for gushing wounds builds. Should be very close to 80%. Then it is a lot about the amulet. The highest damage possible is double passive HH and CttB with crit chance, but those are like … 2 kidneys 😂
@@Lunatalli yea I paid 11b for mine and that was lucky with MW I got +4 HH and + 6cttb and my crit is 2478 and vuln is 1175 haven’t ima try get to out 150 tonight but only have done 142 solo and 147 duo with a sorc
😂😂😂😂😂 11B i haven't paid for anything. Everything all off grinding. My crit chance is 73.7 crit dmg 3,689 and my vulnerable 559. As of right now my flay has 16/5 imposing presence 10/3 cut to the bone 8/3 and my heavy handed 5/3. Just grind!
So no Ire glyph intresting hahah ur build is same as me but im using ire inseat of reveneg im gona try reveng so zero damage reduction from glyphs ha ok its on u if i dies
In AoE just mash all your buttons nonstop for nonstop barrier and shouts, in single target you need to rotate iron skin and shouts for also close to 100% uptime 😁
❗Common Questions❗
1. Grandfather vs Normal Weapon - Grandfather is only good for Holy Bolts speed farming
2. Vulnerable : CSD ratio - According to Wu Wang, the best ratio is 0.6:1 meaning you need 600% for 1000% CSD, which increases lineary and thus the more CSD you have, the more vulnerable you need to match it.
❗IMPORTANT❗And for 2000% CSD you would need around 1400% Vuln (0.7:1 ratio) so You might need Vulnerable temper on one of the 2H and masterwork it
Wu Wang's Calculator (translation by Pxx) of CSD and Vulnerable DPS - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qF_lWWEAC3v-X22Fo2-4JsB76uF_5iMjICfG-O2e-b4/edit?gid=1108664127#gid=1108664127
3. STR vs HP gems in armor - Keep removing Rubies and replacing them with Amethyst till the point you no longer feel comfy (personally I run only Amethysts and 41k hp in T150+ runs)
4. AS vs STR on rings - According to some early AS breakpoint tests (NOAO for Sanctuary discord), 1x GA AS is the best for overall DPS
5. Flay Duration vs CSD - CSD masterworking will grant you more AoE, while also providing ST (single target) damage increase vs Flay Duration which provides the maximum ST damage
6. Consumables - Precision Elixir for AoE and Advantage for the boss (AS and lucky hit helps with 100% uptime on all skills) , Soothing Spices for Resistance cap and Chorus of War with Ancient Times for stats to get more damage and proc 6th board rare nodes for MAX DR in the board
7. Rotation - In AoE we just mash all buttons at all times 😂 make sure to reapply vulnerable in AoE with Steel Grasp. In ST we try to keep berserking up at all times through war cry and Steel Grasp, using Iron Skin BEFORE shouts to get its cooldown back ASAP and Rupture whenever Wanton Aspect is up (Golden border around Rupture)
8. Edgemaster vs Wanton on 2H - Adjust based on your build❗With triple crit on Tempers (CSD or Vuln, if we want to reach 0.6 ratio from Wu Wang, we would need to get 1x Vuln temper on 2H as well) I would probably go for Wanton to get way more boss DPS, unless I had a lot of trouble with mobs
9. How to push - TLDR we have to fish for good enemies and boss, which is kinda boring
10. How to get CSD or Vulnerable tempers - You need to make a rogue to temper it there
11. Is %Damage double dipping for Bleeds - YES docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hXoEyZaz73EU3yAtUVcSgO9f15lMNILUWMzzgp7Eeks/edit?gid=1355148910#gid=1355148910 (Credits to people who concluded these tests)
btw is your intro legal?:P since its a website?:D
I have 2100 CSD and 1350 vulnerable, warcry bots +6 flay +7 and Cut to the bone +7, dmg berserkibg 300% and cri chance 70%. Why I hit only 1,2 bilion ? How to reach 2,3 bilion hits? I need a amulet with heavy handed too ? Dmg come from that ?
Can you please explain how the bleed damage stack up that high? And why the Flay duration matters?
Flay duration is for single target damage like bosses, so the bleed lasts longer
Same as with Rend last season, where ring of the Ravenous was 80% damage increase thanks to extra 4 seconds duration = more stacks of bleed and thus higher tick and more ticks to consume for rupture = more damage.
The same thing happens with flay duration, that is what makes it so op 💪🏻 and Blizz should add Rend duration temper if they ever wanna fix the fact that we now only play basic skills for the highest clears.
@@Lunatallihow can we compensate the gameplay of flay during non boss fights such as pit runs as opposed to slaying bosses?
@@atty.danilotuazon8776 well, the whole AoE component of Flay build is Rupture, so basically you just need to ktie mobs with steel grasp really well and spam the hell out of it 😂 it deals quite a lot of damage actually 😁 especially if you replace rubies in armor like myself with amethysts for more STR as rupture is quadrupledipping in in it.
@@Lunatalli noted boss. Ty for this tip. I'll try it out. I subscribed to your channel btw.
This BUILD save my game in the last hours of the S04. Thank you very much, sir.
I’m glad I could be of help mate 😁💪🏻
What are the exact stats of your character??? critical damage, critical hit chance? vulnerable damage? force?? I would appreciate the response, greetings from Venezuela!
Hey mate 😁 my exact build is in the planner (dropdown menu and choose “my gear”)
Nice video bro! GG.
Thanks mate! 💪🏻 rogue looking good on PTR and of course the new class soon 😂 decisions decisions what to play next!
Nice bro!
Thanks mate 💪
your build has a barrier up so often id almost call it a barrier barb. It is definitely the most balanced build ive seen for barbarian. Great build. Great vid i can see why ur runs are so successful. That gear looks amazing.
Thanks 🥰 in that case we should call it Harrogath build 😂 that chest is solo carrying the build with instant resets from rupture haha
Awesome video. Would be good if you can include a short segment on the rotation. What to do during the pit run and also the boss. Thanks !!
Thanks mate 🥰 and thanks for the comment, I will try to fix it next time 😁 for now I added the rotation in the video description
@@Lunatalli got it i read the description for the rotation now. thanks again!
Hello! Thank you for the sources indicated and the informative description of the video. After following the link to the calculator and playing a little with the calculator numbers, I came to the conclusion that the more vulnerable damage the better. Not to mention the ratio of 0.6:1 (3:5), which was not confirmed by my tests in the calculator. For example: 1000 crit, 600 vuln = 28,600 actual damage; 1000 crit, 2500 vuln = 70,400 actual damage and so on. What do you think about it?
Hey mate! 😁I am glad you like the content. Keep in mind though that vulnerable is much harder to get than CSD :) because both tempers and affixes on CSD are waaaaay higher. Also the gain from wrath and then we have HH. So that much vulnerbale is not really obtainable without losing a lot of other stats, possibly all the CSD :D but yeah, vulnerable is extremely strogn because it is double dip to our additive bucket and then turns into multi throug hemo 💪
I dont really understand the sheet. Do i have to just write my vul and crit dmg into the first lines and then just raise one to See its effect?
I switched one crit to vul on a 2 handed weapon now att 1200 vul to 2000chd . But thanks to cut to the bone i lost 500chd for 200 vul feels not worth it for me.
@@danielrosch1466 put crit, vuln, gf or no, cttb ranks, then u have two fields in th middle, put some values either crit or vuln, for example 20 vuln or 25 crit to imitate gem choice
I notice you don't have steel grasp stuns on pants or CC reduction duration on some of the other items and seems to be mainly replaced by barrier regeneration. what was your reasons for that? thanks!
Hey 😁 eventually, once you get good gear and mostly used to the build, steel grasp stuns makes you go slower. Used it in the past as it made me very tanky as the initial grouping of mobs made them stunned and thus they couldn’t attack me.
Barrier generation => bigger barrier through iron skin => we no longer need rubies => more STR for more rupture explosions and dmg in general
Hi Luna, is X’Fals Corroded Signet ever something you’d consider using for flay? Is it any good? I have one with a GA in lucky hit and damage over time
Hey 😁 at this moment Xfal ain’t worth it. The damage it does is minimal, the proc is nothing compared to what it was with 1000% lucky hit rogue in S2 and overall doesn’t give us any good stats 😁
@@Lunatalli oh shoot. I really appreciate the information though thank you 😄
Hi lunatali, would you swap all vulnerable damage to leave haemorrage at 45% to crit or just keep it once s5 hits for the nerf? And just lose the multiplicative part
Hey mate 😁 for S5 we will definitely go down on vulnerable just to reach the perfect 45% as anything above will no longer double dip. What that means is that we will either go full on CSD or that we will go mostly for CSD with a temper or two on close damage (highest raw stat) or DoT affix instead of 1x life (again highest raw stat) to get some base additives before the multipliers hit (as CSD apart from gushing wounds doesn’t affect the formula for dmg)
@@Lunatalli also do you get one shot at 50k hp? Sometimes I get one shot at 100hp. How do you prevent one shot from high level pit bosses or It doesn't happen?:)
@@flamingjob2 I do not :) there is probably just one skill that one shots with 50k HP and it is the circle that keeps getting smaller.
For the rest: Rotate CDs. Iron Skin always first, then shouts :)
❗I am not using commanding shout unless I have to for extra DR or to get those last 2 seconds off from Iron Skin ❗
So just rotate Iron Skin with War Cry so that Hectic aspect is prio on these 2 ^^ if I have my barrier and War Cry always up = win 😁
Thanks a lot Bro...
Glad you like mate 💪🏻
hey luna, would you recommend going 2x MW Crit on weapons for CSD? or is 1x CSD Temper / 1x Vul GA crit masterworking okay? this is for pit148 and above pushing.
I have a random mix to be honest 😁 and it is okay. But overall throughout the run, it’s better to crit on CSD (or vuln) tempers as most of the dungeon is AoE. Flay duration still giga pumps single target though, especially rupture
@@Lunatalli got it! i have crit on CSD and vul tempers right now. so its okay to keep it for the pit clear ya?
my greatest struggle is clearing to the boss in high pits. your replies are always so helpful! im now a loyal fan of your videos!
what do you think about attack speed instead of STR on rings ?
Can be used and is good in single target, but doesn’t do much in AoE while STR skyrockets our Rupture explosions 💪🏻
What do you think about season 5? Seems like Gushing Wounds and Hemmorage will take a massive hit. Flay duration as utility temper now. Will be interesting to see if Flay drops from S++ to S or A tier or if there is some new synergy with the free weapon tempers
To be honest? Until I see better tempers for core skills, like rend duration and simply damage boosting tempers, I ain’t impressed 😅🥲
The fact that basic skills can overpower core skills, which are supposed to be the pinnacle of our abilities … don’t like it 🙈
The 45%(x) limit to Hemorrhage will hurt for sure.
Also flay duration as a utility temper also means losing barrier generation or CC in PvP, which ain’t good. And there is not really a temper for weapons to replace it with.
We could in theory find a synergy with leapquake and flay with earthquake duration, which might give us some absolutely insane damage increase. But how well it will synergise together as we will have to stop flaying for leaps to stack quakes .. Will see 😁
The safest bet will be bash and dust devils in this case as their tempers are the only damage dealing tempers really apart from the offensive stats.
@@Lunatalli I also don't like the fact that basics skills are so strong. I mean 2 tempers on Bash Cleave and suddenly Double Swing looks like a joke. Upheaval is in a weird state and HotA is a damage buff for basic skills :-/.
Not sure what the state of Gushing Wounds is though. They fixed some double-dipping but it seems things like Grandfather will still double the damage 🤔
@@flowqi212 well that is how GF works. When you crit (gushing wounds basically allows dot to crit), the damage doubles.
What GF does not do though, is increase our CSD additive stat. It was tested in all previous seasons to be just a visual bug and the extra CSD additive in char sheet did not count towards damage of skills.
Might have been bugged for GW.
@@Lunatalli I've personally tested it, GF doubles your Gushing Wounds multiplicative damage. Data looks pretty clear. I believe this is why Rob still uses it in most bleed builds. Btw it's the same for Victimize and Vulnerable multiplicative damage for the Rogue.
@@flowqi212 then it is a specific “bug” for GF interaction with GW, because S1, S2, S3 it was tested that GF does not increase the additive CSD, but just doubles the damage, when you crit as a separate multiplier (GF doubling additive CSD instead of being a separate 100%(x) when you crit is actually less DPS). So we had “real crit” values used for calculating the additive bucket of damage.
And this season it was tested that even for WW berserk ripping builds polearm is more DPS than GF.
There is likely just one build that benefits (bleed one) from GF and that would be bash, because bash benefits from CSD for its own damage which can be hundreds of mil crits.
Hemorhage Paragon node got nerfed, S5 or PTR has 45% cap on it. Will you replace Vulne with Crit Dmg? Also, I think creeping death aspect will be a good to equip to sky rocket bleed damage, I used that heart before in S2 in Poison rogue.
We are one billion percent gonna be running Creeping Death 😍 I will test the new "Bleed damage" tempers as we still need some proper additive bucket before we multiply it all with Grandpapa :)
Does rage of harraogth physical crit apply to the bleed/rupture? If so - why don't we max that one?
Gushing Wounds only takes character sheet critical strike chance into consideration 😁
I really hope my message reaches you , im stuck in pit 145 mostly my problem is AOE but i have relatively better gear than yours and never get above 1.5B bleed ticks
I have 1880 Crit Dmg and 1110 Vul dmg and 75% Crit chance and 310% dmg while berserking , i put some Masterworking procs on Vul dmg thinking that it would get me more dmg but it didnt so im wondering if i should swap the vul procs to crit dmg procs ! And if i do i might end up having lower than 0.6 ratio between vul and CSD so please tell me what to adjust
Hey mate 😁
Make sure to have very high rolls on Flay Duration for single target (preferably maxed out) that is one thing. That is what skyrockets your single target damage.
Make sure you always drag the boss into some corner etc so that you don’t move an inch (to have inner calm always up)
If you are currently running rubies in your gear, try swapping them for amethysts (I personally play with full amethysts and only 41k hp).
Make sure that in AoE you drag the mobs and take at least 2-3 elite packs, then you can drag them into some corner to make sure steel grasp hits them all to apply vulnerable at all times and burst them down by spamming all cooldowns nonstop (you can mix max this by only spamming rupture iron skin and war cry for fortify and commanding shout only once every 8 seconds to keep 100% uptime to save yourself a global cooldown)
If you haven’t crit twice or three times on your CSC affixes, try to do so to reach 80%+ crit.
Use consumables (crit elixir in AoE and attack speed in ST)
Thanks alot for answering at short notice with such great details
I currently have ga crits in all my crit items I will make sure to at least double proc them so I can have at least 75% and 80%+ with elixir
As for flay duration I have max rolls in my 4 weapons so I was wondering if I should proc flay rolls or CSD
@@MohamedMaouchi-us9mu yeah, double or even triple crits on CSC are super important :)
If your problem is mostly AoE than masterworking the TEMPER CSD will give you more value :) as flay duration boosts only single target
@@Lunatalli I want kind of a balanced thing
I'll try to get 2 items in triple flay and 2 in triple CSD
What is your flay duration btw ? If you do the math that info is super important if you may
hey @lunatalli, im currently stuck on pit 148. i have flay durations 2x crits on my gear. trying to clear 149 but its taking over, alot of times im left with 4mins or less for the boss. do you have any recommendations when fishing for mob type or boss?
How much vuln do u have?
Hey mate 😁
Make sure to have very high rolls on Flay Duration for single target (preferably maxed out) that is one thing. That is what skyrockets your single target damage.
Make sure you always drag the boss into some corner etc so that you don’t move an inch (to have inner calm always up)
If you are currently running rubies in your gear, try swapping them for amethysts (I personally play with full amethysts and only 41k hp).
Make sure that in AoE you drag the mobs and take at least 2-3 elite packs, then you can drag them into some corner to make sure steel grasp hits them all to apply vulnerable at all times and that inner calm is up for extra 20%(x) and burst them down by spamming all cooldowns nonstop (you can mix max this by only spamming rupture iron skin and war cry for fortify and commanding shout only once every 8 seconds to keep 100% uptime to save yourself a global cooldown)
If you haven’t crit twice or three times on your CSC affixes, try to do so to reach 80%+ crit.
Use consumables (crit elixir in AoE and attack speed in ST)
@@Lunatalli thanks so much! this is such a well thought out and detailed answer. right now my problem isnt the boss. i have good rolls on flay duration at pit 149. But my pit clear is slow.
would you recommend going more Crit Damage masterworked crits on my weapons?
I have a min roll crit chance / CDR / GA Cut to the bone ammy. i can roll off CDR for +skill to Heavy Handed for extra skill rank. would you recommend that for pushing?
How do you get that gear? I've been playing non stop for 2 months and haven't got anything like that? Are you purchasing gear online?
Apart from ring and gloves, everything dropped to me 😂 to be fair it ain’t even that good, most people I know are full triple GA with a bit of 2 GA
@Lunatalli where does this stuff tend to drop at?
@@jaredbogart5461 actually thought it is a comment under my whirlwind video :D sorry about that. This gear is half dropped and half traded on diablo.trade :)
@Lunatalli your tempering is also perfect. Is there a trick to do this? I've done the rogue tempering and all. Tried different tricks and broke half the gear trying to even just get high rolls[over half the range]
A content creater advertice for buying illegal gold for diablo 4, is not trustworthy.
I hope blizzard sees this and bans the accounts.
Gold sellers and buyers are bad for the game.
Wake up yr bloody idea.. every game in the freaking world is p2w.. whether is pay for ppl time to play or pay for item or account. There is nth u can dk abt it.
@@justinleeweekeng4433 EVERY GAME? where are you getting your facts? he has a point buying illegal gold is not good for the game thats why they get ban. oh and as for the games thats not p2w you can play LoL, Valorant, CS go, PUBG etc.. thats just on top of my head
That is where you are wrong. It is not bad for the game 😁 out of 400 people in my friendlist, I know like 5 who don’t do RMT 😂 out of those 395 I know half who would refund the game if they couldn’t do it, because they want to have fun actually playing it and not farming some boring Helltides for 15 hours a day to get the same as working 1 hour overtime in real life. So you can easily say it is helping the game, because otherwise blizzard would see some refunds.
Or do you think anyone would be mad if you could buy better sword in Witcher 3? No. Why? Because it does not affect anyone. Diablo is a single player game with no ranked system, where p2w would give you an advantage.
I personally don’t use RMT, as a student I have better things to spend money on, like .. food 😂😂 and still I am in very high pit and don’t care whether others buy their gear 🤷🏼♂️
So no need to be mad, running around asking for others to be punished for something that affects literally no one. Learn to be respectful and kind to people instead 🥰
@@Lunatalli See you just proven me that i was right. RMT is not part of the game, it is not intended for the game, its not a mechanic of the game. its against TOS therefore its a bannable offence. nobody is forcing you or your 400 friends to play the game. you guys cant drop the game if its not fun. RMT ruins the economy for the game. trading stuff is getting more and more expensive because of players that just swipe and get gold using RMT. its easy to get gold but items wouldnt be costing billions if it wasnt for RMT. if your telling me RMT doesnt affect the economy of trading, you are just lying to yourself. of course it affects it. it makes its faster to get your items. get to masterwork 12. reroll your masterwork. instead of farming for gold you just swipe to get those gold, heck even buy the perfect items for rerolling. everyone whose denies that RMT doesnt affect the economy at all is just lying to themselves to make them feel better about it.
IM NOT ACCUSING YOU OF RMT OR THOSE 400 since i dont have any proof. im just saying that it does affect players in games if the game is single player. Diablo 4 is not a single player game BTW.
getting punish for not following the TOS. is a fair thing to do even if it doesnt affect anyone. you are still breaking TOS, i dont know why it so hard to comprehend that.
how did you get the critical damage on tempering on weapons? there's no option for it
you need to make a rogue and temper the items on that character
Hey luna how does the wanton rupture actually work? I mean do we need to "wait those 25 s so do deal that big bleed dmg?
Also is There a way to prevent that the boss sometimes is healing back when we use rupture?
Hey mate 😁 we wait the 25 seconds, yes ☺️ every 25 seconds a golden border will appear around the icon and that is when we can rupture the boss without losing the stacks. That also prevents any healing 😁
@@Lunatalli OHHH i see god damn thanks man i didnt know that lol
Well for General play in pits we can rupture all the time i assume and mostly in pushing we want to blow em every 25 sec with wanton right?
@@cherubimman5133 I added rotation in vid description 😁 in AoE we rupture nonstop, every second, against boss we wait for wanton 💪🏻
@@Lunatalli So as an opener on boss, would u start with a flay then rupture or can we just rupture to get on cd right away ? I don’t really understand how the bleed damage increases when you keep flaying
@@Shakk404 you start with Rupture against the boss, to get the attack speed without consuming wanton rupture, then you just never release flay and keep rotating your shouts with iron skin 😁
I don't understand, how does the barbarian have critical and vulnerable damage tempers?
you need to temper on rogue :)
@@Lunatalli ty
So if you are stacking up on flay duration, why no Skullbreaker? Doing 20% of your total bleed stack as direct damage for every stun you do just seems powerful…. On a standard 5s bleed duration that’s 100% of you bleed dps it hits for. So if you are running a 10s bleed duration, that’s tripling your dps (assuming you stun with every hit, which shouldn’t be too hard to get).
We don’t want to run CC on flay build in high pit tier push as we need to drag the monsters with steel grasp 😁 we don’t want them to become unstoppable. Also skullbreaker does nothing vs unstoppable monsters and the boss. There is simply no spot for it 😁 all other options are miles better.
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I must be doing something wrong. Not getting a barrier to ever generate?
Hey mate :) barrier generates through Iron Skin
I have some question. What is the best ratio between crit dmg and vul dmg in flay build it’s 2 to 1 or something like that ?
It looks like all the high pit run builds are packing over 4k crit dam. That dont leave much room for vul dam or the 300 berserking dam on the paragon so i guess just go all in on crit dam till u got 4k plus then worry about the other stuff.
@@user-yq2yc5ww9q i just see this video description he said the ratio is 0.6 to 1 .
Wu Wang calculated the best ratio to be 0.6:1
But the easiest thing you can follow is: vulnerable as an affix on all items and then CSD tempers 😁 if you want to reach wu wangs ratio, you will have to temper one weapon with vulnerable as well 💪🏻
Don’t stack just CSD, that is a huge DPS loss
@@Lunatalli thx !
does it matter if i use 1h axe instead of sword? i dont understand what the difference would be when they can have the same aspects/stats?
swords have CSD, axes do not :) that is the main reason 😁
@@Lunatalli thank you
Ive really been trying to kill lilith lately and struggling on both sorc and barb. Clearly im doing something wrong with the flay build im using from maxroll. Would this be able to do it? I just want my Platinum trophy on ps5 dammit!
I one shot Lilith with 1 flay and rupture 😂 but she can no longer be cheesed. So will this build help you do damage? Yes. Is Lilith fight about damage? Not really. I suggest playing a different amulet and boots, both with movement speed as that will help you avoid the platforms and balls easily 💪🏻 you can even equip grandfather and rubies in all gear to be able to survive 1-3 hits from the balls 😁
@@Lunatalli thank you!
HI there, how i can get critical strike dmg on 1h swords? ty
Hey, you need rogue to do that for all weapons 😁
how crazy is that? He had a Rogue add an AFFIX that is NOT available for Barb....I was shocked they allowed that!! Crazy!!
Hey curious you went with Revenge, why not Ire?
If we masterwork dmg while zerking on one of our rings, we can reach 300 zerking cap without Ire while also getting 8%(x) damage boost through Harrogath thorns. But of course Ire is still a viable option to be blade in the blood rage board if that is what you need to reach the cap 💪
@@Lunatalli appreciate the response and information! keep up the content
hey luna, sometimes i get the fat corpsefiend bloater mob types. and they keep healing non stop especially the elites. any idea why?
Zombies? We love those! 😂 zombies and spiders are the best type. But to be honest? I just keep on mashing buttons and don't pay much attention to them haha. They usually heal when they like stop moving and start wiggling. Keep on kiting them with Steel Grasp collecting more enemies on the way for massive Ruptures 💪
@@Lunatalli thanks for the tips luna!! appreciate the response
Do you need all resist on pants and boots?
Yes, but only 1 GA is enough ( the rest you get through incenses )
What’s the difference between getting 2 different resis on armor and 3 different on jewelry gems vs getting all resis on everything? Seems all resis it harder to obtain
How do you keep your iron skin cooldown low?
In AoE fights, it does not matter, I just mash all buttons, Rupture with Harrogath reset all our cooldowns nonstop.
In ST, Iron Skin always first before you use shouts. And unless we need to use commanding shout for extra survivability or to get those remaining 2 seconds from Iron Skin, ONLY rotate Iron Skin with War cry so that only those 2 cooldowns are being resetted wih Hectic (Hectic ain't global, but chooses randomly 1 spell on cooldown) and voiala, giga uptime 💪
How much strength is needed?
My advice is removing rubies one by one and replacing with amethysts and stop once you no longer feel safe 😁
Hi can u help me what gives u unlimited rage?
Hey! Sorry, forgot to answer. If you mean fury, in season 4 we did not have Shard of Verathiel yet so our Flay did not cost any fury :)
Either GA All Resistances + GA Flay Pants or GA All Resistances + GA War Cry boots cost 30b+ :(
Yeah, they do unfortunately 🙈 pants I managed to get before anyone even knew Flay existed 😂 and boots I got with STR instead and rolled normal War Cry on it. They were like 8% of the price 💪
so, my CSD/VULN ratio is actually 2000/1000 so i can easily reduce vuln to 700 and try to move that masterwork to crit chance?
It is the other way around 😁 for 2000 CSD you should get 1400 Vulnerable
@@Lunatalli i know but the other way is probably easier 😂
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Why only rouge? Sorc also,no?
I thought sorc only has vulnerable tempers but not CSD 🤔 not gonna lie, never paid attention to Sorc 😂
I don't understand why we don't use Wrath of the Beserker and it's ultimate or COA... Is COA more dmg or is one better for single target while the other is better for AOE? Anyone?
TLDR: we can’t fit it in. All the crucial skills are already on the action bar and without them, the build would not work ☺️
Plus WotB needs you to spend fury, which we don’t with Flay
@@Lunatalli ty for the explanation
why do we need 0.6 ratio? cant we just go full CHD like 2600 CHD and 1k Vul for pushing pits? wont that mean more damage on rupture overall?
people keep saying this ratio and that ratio, but if you dont have 0.6 ratio, does that mean a DPS loss?
Generally the easiest thing you can do is just get GA vulnerable affixes everwhere and then CSD tempers with one weapon having vulnerable temper and you are set :) but even if you go for just CSD tempers, you will be fine 😁 vulnerable is simply giga value because it is not only multiplier like CSD, but also an additive contributing to our base additive bucket 💪 1300-ish vulnerable is what you would want for sure. And then, if you have heavy handed on your ammy, you will also have like 2400 CSD easy :)
@@Lunatalli got it thanks Luna. I have heavy handed on amulet. Will that mean we ideally want 1300 vul and aim for 2400 CHD?
@@mattitudever90 the easiest thing you can do to max out on bleed ticks is to play with the Wu Wang calculator from the description, But yeah, around that value Sounds right ☺️💪🏻
@@Lunatalli thanks your replies help me so much!!! really appreciate the time and effort to replying to youtube comments. let me play around the calculator.
@@Lunatalli I noticed after swapping over to Crit Damage / Vul Masterwork on my gear, my rupture went down on the target dummy. but if i swap in flay duration masterworks, it goes up. is that normal? i see some creators hitting for 100B on the boss... and so far ive been hitting around 40-60B at most :(
if ratio is 0.6 to 1, how do you get 4000% CSD to 4300% VULN?
It’s a linear increase. Meaning the less CSD you have, the less vulnerable you need and vice versa. But no one can get 4K crit and 4K vuln 😂 and because vulnerable tempers give very little compared to CSD tempers, I would say the easiest thing to do is still just get vuln on all affixes and CSD on tempers. But hey, according to the Chinese tests and math, the 0.6 ratio is the king 😂
So crit strike damage is what I want to MW on my weapons? 😢 I’ve just spent all my gold thinking I was suppose to hit flay duration wtf
I have flay duration myself and chilling 💪🏻 flay duration = more single target damage. I personally hate grind 😂 so any combination of the 2 is good in my book. 😁
So holy bolt with berserk ripping is bad for high pit push?
I think so. Because holy bolt is not very good anymore. And if you take a life potion instead, you can switch over a lot of your life paragon nodes for more damage!
@@aaronp8874 ye but antivenom is life so i can use with holy, but seems the damage is low .. i do some runs but not looks god
@@norbertkover9060 yep. If anything I would say run double life potion and substitute even more life for damage. Maybe even drop life jewels for strength
@@aaronp8874 ye the life thing sounds better option , rid all paragon life for damage , nice tip thanks
Holy bolts is bad now, deals almost no damage and so is only beneficial for speed farms, especially with WW and tyrael 😁
In the runs we want to use antivenin as an elixir #1 and then Precision for AoE as elixir #2 and then swap for Advantage vs the boss. Though I personally run with Advantage the whole run as I am poor and can’t waste elixirs like that 😂😂
And of course I have STR gems in all my gear over life even without running double life elixir 😁
Hi, how do you get fortification?
Hey, through war cry 💪🏻
How were you able to keep iron skin up at all times? That’s been my problem
In AoE fights, it does not matter, I just mash all buttons, Rupture with Harrogath reset all our cooldowns nonstop.
In ST, Iron Skin always first before you use shouts. And unless we need to use commanding shout for extra survivability or to get those remaining 2 seconds from Iron Skin, ONLY rotate Iron Skin with War cry so that only those 2 cooldowns are being resetted wih Hectic (Hectic ain't global, but chooses randomly 1 spell on cooldown) and voiala, giga uptime 💪
@@Lunatalli Thank you! I’ll definitely be checking your channel out a lot
@@LeiaThePug love to hear that 🥰
What do I do if I don't have an uber unique helm "Harlequin"
I suggest normal helmet with aspect of might, STR, cooldown reduction and life affix 😁 imposing presence and barrier generation tempers 💪🏻
Thank you sir for the prompt response.
Just a quick question: your Speed Farm titled build in the Planner has a Grandfather. I won't be getting that anytime soon lol. So which build should I follow for Speed farming.
Is there one build that can do both tormented boss farming and speedfarming?
You have 5 builds in the planner:
Can you please list down which one i
How do you get soo many yellow hits!!?? I might see 1 or 2 in every mob in pit 137. Feel like im stuck with no damge.
Vulnerable is 1091%
Csd is 1948%
Even when using steel grasps i get no vul hits. Just straight white? Any ideas man?
white hits are either non crits or bleed ticks (because ticks cannot crit) and yellow hits are direct damage crits. I have 85% crit chance unbuffed so I pretty much crit with all hits 😁
@Lunatalli so pretty much need more crit chance huh?
Mine is at 74%.....
What would be better to go after csd or chance 1st to get the oercentage up?
Thanks for replying so quick too man. Ty!
@Lunatalli and what's your csd and vulnerable %?
@@aintloudbros3931 basically GA csc is a must have on items 😁 and then you go for CSC crits and CSD temper crits
@@Lunatallity soo much man!
How much berserker damage does the build need? and for the legendary paragon knot that is tempered with berserker damage and nothing else?
All builds need 300% berserker damage to reach 30%(x) for blood rage 😁
Physical dmg affects to bleed dmg???
Yes. Otherwise aspect like elements which buff our physical damage would not work 😁
@@LunatalliOof, I see, Rob in his build is using aspect of the elements and I was confused about what works and what not :(
@@adri9esp366 yeah, it works 😁 but we don’t really want it for flay. All the other options are more damage, so better avoid elements 😁 it is 15%(x) overall, while conceited is 25%(x), edgemasters 20% - 40%(x) on 2hander. And inner calm is 10% at all times and 30% vs the boss 💪🏻
@@LunatalliBtw I really think Wanton Rupture is way better to have in 2H for high pits than inner calm, what u think about that?
@@adri9esp366 I am running Edgemasters on the 2H :) as it is the better overall as most of the dungeon is against mobs and Wanton does nothing against those ^^
So weird, how did u stack upto 2.5bil bleed dmg. I have even better gear than u also higher flay duration but I can do max 1b4 on the dummy. Can u test on dummy and see whats yr max bleed dmg can reach? Thanks!
Currently managed to get new boots which also have War Cry, I am hitting bosses for 4+ bil tick instead of 3.7 in the vid 💪 Can definitely go even higher if I ever loot double passive amulet with CSC. Had one and it bricked, because tempering is shit 😂 Ga CSC and Ga Cut to the bone ammy. Gone in 5 seconds. Wanted to delete the game at that moment. Haven't played since 🙈
Dummies not as much as I cannot proc barrier there unless playing some shenigans with aspects 😁 you might have your vulnerable to CSD ratio messed up. Also I am playing with over 3000 STR as life is "useless" to me. Damage of mobs don't scale above pit 100 😁
I felt mine a bit unbalanced, I stuck at 145..... My Crit 2275 and Vul 1141....and STR is 2450. Any idea?
Oh wow, you have some monster stats there 😂 like 250 more CSD and 120 more vuln than me.
Have you removed all rubies from armor to get STR?
Also very important: how is your crit strike chance. Often people have very good stats overall and then only around 60% crit or something, which ain’t enough for gushing wounds builds. Should be very close to 80%.
Then it is a lot about the amulet. The highest damage possible is double passive HH and CttB with crit chance, but those are like … 2 kidneys 😂
@@Lunatalli yea I paid 11b for mine and that was lucky with MW I got +4 HH and + 6cttb and my crit is 2478 and vuln is 1175 haven’t ima try get to out 150 tonight but only have done 142 solo and 147 duo with a sorc
My strength is only 2200 but still have 4 rubies in ima rotate them out tonight and see if I can stay alive lol
@@chriskelley8863 Jesus bro! those are INSANE stats. So much higher than mine apart from the STR, but that is because my amy is %str instead of HH :)
😂😂😂😂😂 11B i haven't paid for anything. Everything all off grinding. My crit chance is 73.7 crit dmg 3,689 and my vulnerable 559. As of right now my flay has 16/5 imposing presence 10/3 cut to the bone 8/3 and my heavy handed 5/3. Just grind!
Your last video showed 168b...why are yoy showing a worse version lol
That build was just to showcase max dmg output. This is for gameplay. Lol
@@lovelaugh7299 ah ok makes sense
@lovelaugh7299 perfect explanation mate haha 🥰
Stupid question I've never played barbarian I don't know him well, polearm in the fly and on raptur? Dude, are you no longer on discord?
Oh no, I’m not 😂 sorry. Yea, polearm on both 💪🏻
@@Lunatalli ty
Hi! Nice job, thx for that! A question... the version for speed farm still works?
Hi 😁 thanks mate ☺️ it does! That is what I am using at the beginning of the video 💪🏻
You sound a lot similar to Ace Of Spades from Goblin Inc 😅
Is some tv show or channel? :D either way thanks for the comment haha.
@@Lunatalli another channel lol, they’re also d4 content creators 👌
So no Ire glyph intresting hahah ur build is same as me but im using ire inseat of reveneg im gona try reveng so zero damage reduction from glyphs ha ok its on u if i dies
Revenge will give you almost the same DR as Ire 💪 dw :)
Links take to same page.....
not sure I follow 😂
Hmm I die really fast, have to figure out why
In AoE just mash all your buttons nonstop for nonstop barrier and shouts, in single target you need to rotate iron skin and shouts for also close to 100% uptime 😁
Your skill tree does not correspond to 58 points!! There are many more of them.
Hey, harlequin crest adds 4 to all active skills 😁