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  • With Guillermo del Toro’s Cabinet of Curiosities and Mike Flanagan’s The Midnight Club out in October, the two legendary horror filmmakers sat down for a special Netflix & Chills conversation to discuss their origins, influences, and what they love about the genre.
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  • @ajtaylor8750
    @ajtaylor8750 Před rokem +846

    *"Hatred and fear are a mirror; love is a window."*
    That's just fucking DEEP man. Basically, hate and fear are reflections of ourselves and the things we hate and fear, whereas love is hope for something better that we've yet to experience. What a way with words, that Guillermo del Toro.

    • @sigmasix3719
      @sigmasix3719 Před rokem +6

      The key is to embrace the deep and for this fear must be overcome because within the crushing depths is where we bury our sins.

    • @junlo7070
      @junlo7070 Před rokem +4

      @@sigmasix3719 damn. is that from something?

    • @coringa40
      @coringa40 Před rokem +2

      Fantastic...

    • @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777
      @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 Před rokem +6

      When you look at a mirror, its like trying to look through a window... but the view is always getting blocked by YOU. (your reflection)
      Its exactly how fear and hate works.
      Its so very easy to love, but ego can get in the way just as easily and it turns into fear and hate.

    • @onepiecefan74
      @onepiecefan74 Před 4 měsíci

      If you hate your rapist does that mean you really hate yourself?

  • @spifftastic87
    @spifftastic87 Před rokem +829

    Amazing that Flanagan's childhood fear was being alone in the dark; I feel like I have never seen ANYONE film a dark, empty room like he can, it's terrifying

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Před rokem +32

      Fr.. the best dark empty room scene I’ve seen that encapsulates that feeling is from “The Babadook” probably because it’s a POV shot

    • @yvesgomes
      @yvesgomes Před rokem +9

      I was intrigued by how they were scared kids and talked about it as if it were a pattern among horror professionals. I'm a big horror fan (but don't work with it) and I was a relatively "brave" kid, in terms of not being very superstitious. I felt comfortable when alone and would stay up late by myself to watch horror movies on TV since I was 5 or 6 years old.

    • @peenzert1994
      @peenzert1994 Před rokem +20

      Genuinely blows my mind that they seem like the most relaxed, calm, and genuinely nice people ever…and then you watch their movies 😂

    • @M24071
      @M24071 Před rokem +6

      Yup it really terrified me on haunting of hill house he didn't use jump scares or creepy music it was just a quiet dark room with something lurking in the shadows

    • @InTrancedState
      @InTrancedState Před rokem +3

      I'm a massive horror fan and I was insanely afraid of being in the dark. I think those of us who fear the dark the most are fearful of it because of the irrational draw we have to it

  • @TheValeyard92
    @TheValeyard92 Před rokem +558

    I wish this went on for an hour.

    • @Javiven
      @Javiven Před rokem +35

      Mike said the interview is actually two hours long, but this is what they uploaded :(

    • @silbug
      @silbug Před rokem +2

      same

    • @juliabateman
      @juliabateman Před rokem +2

      Yes!!!

    • @mr.newmanthadreamer8434
      @mr.newmanthadreamer8434 Před rokem +7

      I could listen to that podcast between these great horror auteurs for dayssssssss

    • @Bryan4Hillary
      @Bryan4Hillary Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Javivenrelease the unedited cut!

  • @OphelieH27
    @OphelieH27 Před rokem +600

    not only are they great directors, but they are also great human beings. I could watch them talk for hours. I hope someday they will work together.

    • @roar_gm
      @roar_gm Před rokem +7

      doing Frankenstein!! Imagine a really crazy anthology with every contemporary horror director like Derrickson doing one version of the story...

    • @ponfed
      @ponfed Před rokem +3

      No kidding.. two of my favorites

    • @arjunbajwa9124
      @arjunbajwa9124 Před rokem +3

      Don't ask Guillermo Del Toro what petition he signed.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Před rokem +7

      This video could have been 4 hours long and I would have been enthralled the whole time. Two of the best working directors in the genre, I would love to see what else they discussed.

    • @eravashistha
      @eravashistha Před 8 měsíci

      They are great in their Craft.. the best… yes! But what makes you think or say they are great human beings? What’s a great human being?

  • @catalinareyes336
    @catalinareyes336 Před rokem +440

    Flanagan wearing a "una película de Guillermo del Toro" shirt is just great

  • @nicollopez9009
    @nicollopez9009 Před rokem +141

    "Horror can be such an effective mirror" and "We are all monsters at the end of the day, can we live with that?", how accurate words and how monumental lessons from these masters of the genre. Also, the way Mr. Flanagan has reimagined the concept of horror and transformed it into something deeper like sorrow and pain... wow.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Před rokem +8

      Flanagan uses horror in such an incredible way to deal with our deepest fears and as a tool to reconcile ourselves. del Toro has one of the greatest visual styles in the genre. You can tell by how they talk just how good they both are at this, and how they both "get it" so to speak. I would love to see the rest of this conversation.

  • @DragonflyandTheWolf
    @DragonflyandTheWolf Před rokem +107

    "horror is healing." I love Guillermo del toro so much. He gets it.

  • @AutumnLovingPallette
    @AutumnLovingPallette Před 9 měsíci +7

    ‘Horror is healing’ - this has SO many layers. Horror is like trauma and is uncomfortable and terrifying by nature, but if you work through it properly and find your courage, you come out the other side alive, wiser and able to move forward

  • @ghostli1112
    @ghostli1112 Před rokem +42

    8:30 i love that guillermo mentions horror that makes you cry and learn about yourself. that's exactly what mike's Midnight Mass was for me. terrifying, but also cathartic. i love how he describes that kind of horror as "frescos" because it's just so fitting. i'm in love with this interview. i need the full 2 hour cut!

  • @jbearclowater
    @jbearclowater Před rokem +28

    When Flanagan talked about how being afraid of the dark or to go alone in the dark as a kid explains so much about his projects. Looking at how he plays with the idea of things lurking in the darkness in his shows and movies is among the best I've seen from any director.

  • @gracemcloughlin8737
    @gracemcloughlin8737 Před rokem +55

    I'd give anything to have a full documentary of just them two talking about horror I love this😭

    • @AstraeaAntiope
      @AstraeaAntiope Před rokem +1

      A co-taught Masterclass 🤩

    • @gracemcloughlin8737
      @gracemcloughlin8737 Před rokem

      @@AstraeaAntiope that would be AMAZING. I'd give all the money I have for that to happen 😭

  • @SaturdayMorningToyCollector

    "Hatred and fear are mirrors, love is windows." Damn that is deep. I love GDT. These guys are the top of their genres.

  • @daixxxy
    @daixxxy Před rokem +129

    Horror truly is healing. I couldn’t agree more. As a horror fan - there’s something comforting about the genre. What a fantastic interview.

  • @spifftastic87
    @spifftastic87 Před rokem +111

    Two of my favorite horror directors...what a delight!

  • @brandothecatmeow
    @brandothecatmeow Před rokem +71

    GDT's Frankenstein would be the most incredible film ever made. I would weep for joy if that happened.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Před rokem +4

      I can only imagine how incredible del Toro's version of Dr Frankenstein's lab would be. He has such an amazing visual style

    • @muckymucks
      @muckymucks Před 10 měsíci +3

      It's happening! Get excite!

  • @kararemington5525
    @kararemington5525 Před rokem +264

    Loved this conversation, but as a librarian all the books being backwards on the shelf is my worst fear

    • @smoss9813
      @smoss9813 Před rokem +15

      Thank you! Wonderful directors, wonderful work and yet I couldn't stop looking at the books!!

    • @augusts1
      @augusts1 Před rokem +13

      I knew there was something not quite right about them but was too focused on the conversation to figure it out.

    • @Mulbert
      @Mulbert Před rokem +6

      I know!! Worse than ordering them by colour (I will die on this hill)

    • @aeonremix
      @aeonremix Před rokem +5

      it's very disturbing

    • @Laurantalasah
      @Laurantalasah Před rokem +1

      Thank you! It's just... it's just not right

  • @serpentina05
    @serpentina05 Před rokem +126

    Please give me a solid 2 hours of these two, please. I love their work!

  • @angeldelgado7120
    @angeldelgado7120 Před rokem +54

    Midnight Mass is so beautiful. The greatest insight to Religion and faith i have ever seen.

    • @Mulbert
      @Mulbert Před rokem +12

      As a minister's kid watching it was absolutely astounding, I know some people complain about his monologues but I think they're incredible. And the hymn montage at the end...literal chills

  • @benbarada2882
    @benbarada2882 Před rokem +29

    Cabinet of Curiosities is the itch I couldn’t scratch since Tales from the Crypt. Guillermo del Toro, thank you for bringing us this much needed horror anthology series🙏

  • @alyssatheamazon
    @alyssatheamazon Před rokem +73

    please give the full 2 hours. i would watch it all. these two are brilliant.

  • @M24071
    @M24071 Před rokem +22

    God I want these two to work together so badly Guillermo is great with creature horror while Flanagan nails the emotional horror

  • @jonwes
    @jonwes Před rokem +130

    Can we get the full version? This is great. I want to watch everything.

  • @AudioNovelLovers
    @AudioNovelLovers Před rokem +40

    i love mike flanagan so frickin much.... he has redefined the genre of horror...

    • @DA-wg5cz
      @DA-wg5cz Před rokem +1

      Nah that Guillermo del toro

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Před rokem +5

      @@DA-wg5cz I think both are good answers. Two masters at work here.

  • @marinazappettini
    @marinazappettini Před rokem +67

    Damn, what a fascinating insight into the minds of two masters of horror this was! I watched Mike Flanagan's whole body of work, and quite a lot of Guillermo del Toro's movies, too... I have always been inexplicably drawn to horror, even as a child! I remember picking the latest Goosebumps novel as a kid and anticipating the moment when I could finally sit down and read it ahaha
    I think a lot of what they both said about horror being healing is spot on. We could even look at the lovers of this genre as people who constantly seek self-therapy! I, for one, know that I'm sort of capable of alienating my stress and anxiety whenever I experience someone else's demons... Momentarily delegating MY demons to the screen/written page. In short, the true purpose of horror IS to make you feel less alone, just not in a scary, hopeless way.

  • @jbearclowater
    @jbearclowater Před rokem +5

    The idea of Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein sounds like an incredible idea. I'll be there opening night.

  • @synthmasquerade294
    @synthmasquerade294 Před rokem +9

    Two legends of the craft, amazing filmmakers, storytellers and all around artists. Could listen to a 5 hour version of this with no problem.

  • @bshaw4255
    @bshaw4255 Před rokem +11

    Absolute masters of their craft. I’ll watch anything Flanagan puts out, and I would see Del Toro’s Frankenstein on the biggest screen I could find opening night.

  • @TheProphegy
    @TheProphegy Před rokem +11

    Del Toro is such a legend for directing, I hope he’s around for another 20-30 years.

  • @thebookgeek87
    @thebookgeek87 Před rokem +5

    The book geek, horror freak, movie nerd in me is living for this conversation.

  • @s_c_d
    @s_c_d Před rokem +16

    This is great. Netflix, release the whole conversation, please!

  • @peenzert1994
    @peenzert1994 Před rokem +6

    Would love to meet Guillermo, he seems so passionate and loves what he does. Mike Flanagan is the most laidback normal dude I’ve ever met, super cool guy, no idea how he comes up with the horror he does

  • @TheElultimovivo
    @TheElultimovivo Před rokem +8

    I think i cried with this conversation between this two cinema munsters. It’s amazing what this both directors have achieve in movies.

  • @Sid_Kill
    @Sid_Kill Před rokem +6

    The cabinet of curiosities is such a great show, I'm loving it so far.

  • @AstraeaAntiope
    @AstraeaAntiope Před rokem +2

    I just love listening to Guillermo del Toro speak.

  • @evilscotsman495
    @evilscotsman495 Před rokem +2

    Mike Flanagan's face during this conversation is basically me watching this interview.

  • @unaware4583
    @unaware4583 Před rokem +14

    Pinocchio is such a deep and visionary story. I always feel it is under-appreciated and ravished (Disney). Luckily we are going to see a good version of it soon enough. Thank you, Guillermo. Big fan :)

  • @RealNigelThornberry
    @RealNigelThornberry Před rokem +9

    These two need to do a series together where they talk about horror and literature.

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Před rokem +1

      Are you listening Netflix? This idea, right here.

  • @nataliemintz6507
    @nataliemintz6507 Před 8 měsíci +1

    A collab with these two would be a dream come true.

  • @franybunny
    @franybunny Před rokem +6

    me encanta cuando Guillermo dice "una vez hablando con Garcia Marquez..."

  • @rosiespencer8081
    @rosiespencer8081 Před rokem +8

    Two kings respecting each other and their craft. We love to see it!

  • @prettynpetty8342
    @prettynpetty8342 Před rokem +4

    I would absolutely lose my mind if I saw these two legends in real life. Just finished both of their new series this month. C of C was great monster horror/character design. The last episode had me in tears. TMC was classic Flanagan. I loved "Road to Nowhere".

  • @Oracol
    @Oracol Před rokem +2

    Netflix: PLEASE make some sort of series with these two masters. It can literally be just them in conversation every episode

  • @matheuslascasas134
    @matheuslascasas134 Před rokem +7

    Release the full conversation! This is some fascinating stuff

  • @jenna4619
    @jenna4619 Před rokem +9

    What a phenomenal interview! You can really tell why they’re the absolute best at their craft

  • @juliabateman
    @juliabateman Před rokem +3

    I could listen to them for hours! 💙
    Netflix needs to make so much more of these ! Iconic directors talking to each other! It's such a treat!!! More!!!

  • @ftuT
    @ftuT Před rokem +4

    Flanagan's Dr. Sleep baseball boy death scene left me scarred for life like nothing else in film. Seems like a humble guy too.
    And Del Toro is a poet.

    • @delfin7461
      @delfin7461 Před rokem

      That scene is equally heartbreaking and horrifying. The whole film is pretty great

  • @Rai_S82
    @Rai_S82 Před rokem +12

    Oh my goodness, I'm so excited to see these two together! 😃

  • @4no3bo3dy
    @4no3bo3dy Před rokem +4

    I love that they close by promoting each other’s respective debuts!

  • @ikariiprince
    @ikariiprince Před rokem +31

    I love that we’re living in a time with 2 visionary horror directors like them

  • @seniartkreatif
    @seniartkreatif Před rokem +3

    i felt like i just sat down listening to the best philosopy class of my entire life! so glad i am present in this class.

  • @mrtableandmrchair
    @mrtableandmrchair Před rokem +6

    This is great - release the full uncut conversation please!!

  • @soccerjockey
    @soccerjockey Před rokem +1

    Would love an extended cut of this interview! Two of my favorite directors working today

  • @rebeccawolfgirl
    @rebeccawolfgirl Před rokem +3

    I could listen to them talk all day, more of this, please!

  • @dreamofwaking702
    @dreamofwaking702 Před rokem +1

    Guillermo del Toro just seems like the coolest dude

  • @LordPachotron82
    @LordPachotron82 Před rokem +2

    Two of my favorite filmmakers together. What a gift this is!

  • @edwardrogers5148
    @edwardrogers5148 Před rokem +5

    Guillermo del Toro is the best horror director of these days

  • @Raida7
    @Raida7 Před 7 měsíci

    I always love watching these two speak, when their eyes light up with joy about a subject

  • @rubyangel2900
    @rubyangel2900 Před rokem +2

    This entire conversation has been a treat ❣️

  • @MastigosAtLarge
    @MastigosAtLarge Před rokem +1

    This was an incredible conversation. It's my dream to have ten minutes to speak with either of them. Mr. del Toro's work was so transformative for me as a teen and young adult, and it is a treat to watch anything he creates at all. And then Mr. Flanagan I discovered later, but his work is just as important to me.

  • @ItsMeDarlaLee
    @ItsMeDarlaLee Před 7 měsíci

    I’m here a year later and still so sad Midnight Club was cancelled. For anyone who watched the show I recommend reading the book it’s based off of. It was a wonderful story. Not so much horror, but a beautiful story about life and death.

  • @zikarisg9025
    @zikarisg9025 Před rokem +1

    Two of my favorite creative people, love pretty much everything they ever put to film. The contrast between them is quite funny though, Mike Flanagan is such a unassuming regular guy, I can picture him in pretty much any shop from middle school teacher to car salesman. Listening to him talk doesn't reveal the depth of creativity and mastery he can put on film (I'm not meaning this in a negative way).

  • @countgeekula9143
    @countgeekula9143 Před rokem

    Brilliant! My two favourite working creators/storytellers. This needs a much longer version. More please. 😁

  • @Unholyterror666
    @Unholyterror666 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely loved this interview!! Had to watch it again!

  • @Exxilem19
    @Exxilem19 Před rokem +1

    I would’ve gladly listened to an hour long conversation between this two geniuses!

  • @scorba3
    @scorba3 Před rokem +2

    such lovely people

  • @mrgorgun81
    @mrgorgun81 Před rokem

    Thank god these 2 are around to make films and series. Much love.

  • @Moonie_MonRozE
    @Moonie_MonRozE Před rokem

    What an amazing duo!!! I’m so glad this collaboration happened!!!! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @IrishCat04
    @IrishCat04 Před rokem +1

    i cannot express enough how much i love Guillermo del Toro...his creations make me feel so much♥

  • @cavafrick
    @cavafrick Před rokem +4

    NOTHING I love more than listening to true icons talk abt their work/ personal feelings. Btw, would give almost anything to hear an interview like this w Stephen King

  • @MidazMX
    @MidazMX Před rokem +2

    Mike Flanagan having the widest smile while talking to Guillermo makes me feel kinda proud that he's Mexican like me. And it's funny because I would have that same smile if I was talking to Mike. We need the full two hours, pleeeeeeaaaaaase

  • @murdermygymsox
    @murdermygymsox Před rokem +1

    My husband and I are loving Cabinet of Curiosities! (Only one episode left we haven’t watched.) We’ll definitely have to watch The Midnight Club next as we love Mike Flanagan and anthology series!
    PLEASE Netflix make a second season of Curiosities (maybe Flanagan can direct an episode? 👀) and make more of these CZcams videos of directors discussing their works!

  • @thiagomattar2368
    @thiagomattar2368 Před rokem +4

    Two of the most inventive creators of today. ❤

  • @venadacent7696
    @venadacent7696 Před rokem +1

    This video should have been at least an hour for such talented creatives!!!! Really enjoyed The Midnight Club and looking forward to GDT's Cabinet of Curiosities.

  • @Zereptina
    @Zereptina Před rokem +3

    Big fan of both of these legends. Such a good discussion!

  • @jacobsaul
    @jacobsaul Před rokem +1

    two fantastic filmmakers, really loved this discussion

  • @justingreen2432
    @justingreen2432 Před rokem +2

    The best horror filmmakers today tend to be very sweet and kind hearted at their core.
    That endlessly fascinating to me.

  • @amadeusmalonje6948
    @amadeusmalonje6948 Před rokem +1

    Mike Flanagan should direct a short in cabinet of curiosities' next season

  • @Jetsamification
    @Jetsamification Před rokem

    This was nice to see. I enjoyed hearing them talk about these topics.

  • @yoshimasu_k
    @yoshimasu_k Před 10 měsíci

    I really wish they dug into their past original works (instead of series they're overseeing), but I'm glad we at least got this much of the two masters together!

  • @applesauce504
    @applesauce504 Před rokem +4

    Please upload the whole uncut thing

  • @michaelendara
    @michaelendara Před rokem +1

    Dos personas increíbles! Mi admiración total para ambos! Abrazos desde Ecuador! Two amazing people! My total admiration for both of you! Hugs from Equator!

  • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
    @VinegarAndSaltedFries Před rokem +1

    Both of these series absolutely rock and I really really hope Cabinet Of Curiosity’s continues thru multiple years.

  • @clarapilier
    @clarapilier Před rokem +2

    Imagine a colab of these two.

  • @PamelaBarcelo
    @PamelaBarcelo Před rokem

    RELEASE THE REST OF THE INTERVIEW PLEASE, thanks :)

  • @sheren_b
    @sheren_b Před rokem

    i could listen to these two talk for an horror theyre so nice and charming and clearly admire and respect each other deeply. i appreciate GDT telling him not to revel the books he gives him, but i want to know!

  • @EdwinNikkels
    @EdwinNikkels Před rokem

    More of this, please!

  • @claudiacarolina6125
    @claudiacarolina6125 Před 8 měsíci

    Great convo between these two!!

  • @ambercontreras1110
    @ambercontreras1110 Před rokem +5

    Such a cool conversation to sit in on! I could listen to these two talk for hours.

  • @vanessalindeken9307
    @vanessalindeken9307 Před rokem +2

    Fascinating! Two of the greatest minds in horror history. Bravo!!!

  • @StarLightNow
    @StarLightNow Před rokem

    Would love to see the full uncut interview of this.

  • @sanderhaskins2740
    @sanderhaskins2740 Před rokem +1

    I love both directors!! Please keep making amazing art ♥️

  • @nicolas.grisanti
    @nicolas.grisanti Před rokem +1

    two of my favorite directors of all time!

  • @RAMSSUCK.
    @RAMSSUCK. Před rokem +3

    Just finished the Cabinet of curiosities. This is like the new twilight zone mixed with creepshow excellent job. This show can keep going with different writers but keep it really spooky. I actual have a great idea for episode. Keep this series up please

  • @WanabeSpiderMan
    @WanabeSpiderMan Před rokem

    PLEASE RELEASE THE FULL 2 HOUR DISCUSSION! PLEASE!

  • @ohyellowbird
    @ohyellowbird Před rokem

    this is so wonderful!!

  • @delfin7461
    @delfin7461 Před rokem +1

    I'm obsessed with Frankenstein and would love to see his take on the story!!!

  • @afmXx_
    @afmXx_ Před rokem

    This conversation was wonderful, it was really interesting to listen to their different point of view ✨

  • @jlimonata
    @jlimonata Před rokem +1

    Pls give us the uncut version!!!!

  • @briexander8353
    @briexander8353 Před rokem

    Two of my faves. I love this 🖤🖤🖤

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 Před rokem

    Great interview