Both pedals rock!!! i could never understand why people look for "marshall in a box" and pay 200 bucks for boutique pedals like , wampler plextortion, pinnacle, Carl martin plexitone and so on , MI audiocrunchbox (100 bucks) when you can have above mentioned marshall pedals for 60 bucks and have great tone!!!! i had both pedals. now i own jackhammer and original shredmaster. Just wanted to say that Jackhammer's DS mode sounds exactly like Shredmaster.
These are the most underrated pedals in history... I have used a Marshall GV-2 for over 7 years, and it is one bitchin pedal --- you can pick these up for about $70 all day long...
Same thing here with the Jackhammer, way underrated. Needs some time to fiddle with the mid controls, and the OD side is much better than the Dist. Once you find the right setting for your gear, though, it's amazing
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Eu tenho o Marshall Guvnor e é o meu preferido pelos timbres a lá Gary Moore. Mas tenho vontade de pegar o Jackhhamer pois tambem é otimo.( I have the Guvnor 2 e Its great)
Jackhammer the best pedal i have ever had, still currently have it with 3 other different Distortions ( A Rat Distortion, Big Muff Fuzz, Paisley Drive). Hands best pedal i have played, so versatile.
I have the GV2 and before buying it did a side by side comparison with the Jackhammer and the I liked the GV2 more and bought it! These pedals are underrated, built like a tank and sound AWESOME!
Both of these pedals sound killer. That Jackhammer has BALLS. I'd use the Guv'nor for 60s style tones and Zep tones, and the Jackhammer for 70s-80s tones and DEFINITELY for that ballsy, AC/DC sound where you can hear the amp cab pumping.
The Velvet Jackhammer .I love it. the GUVner 1/2 is no slouch either. You Tube doesnt do the tonestack on eithet of these pedals justice. They are both amps in a box!
YOU SOUND JUST LIKE JACK BLACK! Thanks for the vid. I've been checking out lots of pedals, and came back to youtube for some help after a few years of not even logging in. Stumbled on your vid relatively quickly along with another of yours and almost made up a three week decision in 20 minutes.
@Pillnut I use a hughes & kettner switchblade, and I have a marshall AVT2000, but I want some cool thingy on my hughes, I bought a Wampler Super Plextortion and I love it, thanks you!
Quite happy you did this one, No one's done the gv2. I bought it out of the blue at a store cause it was just as much as a ds1 and clearance. quite happy i did.
A Tele sounds great thru a Jackhammer. Using a Fender Lite Ash with stock pickups thru one into a Blues Deluxe. Pedal OD is at 12:00 and I leave it on all the time. One thing that these reviews don't show is that the pedal is touch sensitive. Set the guitar volume a little above 3/4, lighten ur pick attack and u can play play full clean chords then play hard and get a great distorted tone. For leads, just max the volume. BTW less highs at the amp will fix the ratty fuzzy top end.
It would be helpful to the people watching the video if we knew which controls are being tweeked...all I can see is knobs being turned throughout the video; without knowing what you're turning. Doesn't give the viewer much of an idea as to how each control functions without being able to see what's being turned.
Thanks for the head to head review. I was interested in both pedals but was undecided as to which way to go. However, thanks to your review I now know the Guv'nor is more suited to my style of playing..... Love the boots :) keep wearing them ... Cheers mate!
Happy i have the Guv. It sounds more punchy to my ears. The Jack seams to miss something I can’t really put my finger on. But it’s awesome only the Guv fits my ears the best🤘🏻
@RSguitarEFFECTS I think I will. Hopefully this clone won't disappoint me, I haven't been able to find any other clones that actually nail its tone based on clips. This guy making it actually gives a damn about relying on his ears in the process, which in the end I think is what really matters not just getting the schematic right.
i use the GV2 for a really harsh punky/hardcore sound and i love it!! very versatile pedal, can get blues, metal, rock, punk, hardcore, grunge, classic rock and thrash sounds out of it if your smart and you try hard enough. shame they arent true bypass, HOWEVER the bypass is pretty damn good, dont let that turn you off this pedal!
@grizzlibear500 the only good thing i can say about the Guv'nor plus is the great bass response it has, but yeah other than that its on point for the cheap price
GOV'NOR GV-2+ - sounds more full JACKHAMMER JH-1 - sounds more nasaly, tighter, and more scooped, at extreme settings it can sound a little compressed and too nasaly, but still good. ***as always, it depends on what other gear you're using, how all of your gear complements/works against each other, what sound you're looking for, how it feels, and what you're willing to pay***
Sounds good, I've always been a big Guvnor fan. Though I think the vintage Guvnor sounds even better by quite a bit. Only problem is finding one and if you do they are usually pretty banged up. Fortunately I was able to find a guy under the name "Stomptone" who can make me a clone. I've heard his version A/B'd against the real deal, I was really impressed and I think he nailed it, a lot of the schematics out there are pretty bunk. I might even make a vid of my own comparing it to the GV-2...
I have the Marshall Bluesbreaker BB2 overdrive pedal. Sucks so hardcore. Its only saving grace is the clean boost mode which gets a great, light tubey breakup. The overdrive setting sounds so digital, though. These sound like they have similar issues.
GMD, could you please do a side-by-side comparison between the Guv'nor and other Marshall style OD pedals, like the OCD, MI Audio Crunchbox, Wampler Plexdrive, Xotic BB? Thanks!
@Gabriopunk77 @Gabriopunk77 single coils or humbuckers, blues or metal, high gain or sparkling clean... use whatever that works man. fyi, Paul Gilbert uses DiMarzio's Injector pickups, which are of single coils.
@Gabriopunk77 telecaster has bean use for the blues... in generation boy... and it it really nice play... i have play a telecaster... it is awsome tone and uniqe
@billiejoecovers Out of the 2 I'd say the Guv'nor is WAY more Slash. The Jackhammer is more of a metal distortion thing going on whereas the Guv'nor is a smooth overdrive like Slash uses. Check out "sound like slash for under 1000", It's a great video. :)
Hey GMD, do you think you could get your hands on a BK Butler Tube Driver and demo one of those? I've seen a few demos but they don't seem to do a great job showing all the features of a tube driver.
@billiejoecovers You should get Slashes hands, his mind for his note choice and vibrato, his Les Paul and ofcourse his AFD 100 marshall head. And if you want to play November rain as soulfully as him, you'll probably need his heart. :)
There are better pedals out there, but I owed about 3 Guv'nor. Sold bought, sold bought back again. Its a real cheap and honest pedal, will make crappy amps sound like a marshall. What more can you possibly ask ? After I got my Blackstar HT-5, I gave it to my girl's brother-in-law, because I just refused to sell it for the third time. lol Rock on GMD! I Just subscribed into your channel =D peace
hey ! I wanted to ask you something, wich pedal do you think is better, the digitech bad monkey or the marshall guvnor? I like playing rock n' roll, you know acdc stuff and all that kind of music... I hope you can answer!
i think gearmandude has provenscientifically beyond any doubt...get both, you know you want to. get one youll want the other, youll end up with both anyway. dont fight it
Im breaking my head to get one of those guv'nor now =( I want some... marshallish overdrive to crank my hughes & kettner crunch channel... hope it works xD I really need to be a lot more... marshallized xD
I own both a Jackhammer and a Bluesbreaker 2. In my opinion the Jachammer has much more natural overdrive sound than the Bluesbreaker 2. Thats why I use the Jackhammer for blues /rock and the Bluesbreaker for boosting the sound. The Jackhammer is very versatile, the Contour and Contour Freq. knobs can are great. The Drive sound of Bluesbreaker 2 is somewhat digital. According to this comparison video I'm very interested in the Guvnor!
Sergio Targ Amigo, todos os 2 pedais do review, irão te dar um timbre Marshall. Sendo que o Guv'nor, nada mais é, do que uma versão moderna do clássico pedal da marshall ( muito bom por sinal, já tive o prazer de comparar o dois lado a lado) Já o Jackhammer, a proposta da empresa, era que você pudesse atingir o timbre do Marshall JTM 2000 ( impossível) mas você consegue tranquilo, o drive quente dos clássicos Marshall valvestate ingleses dos anos 90 ( tendo lógico, mais recursos de timbragem) o Jackhammer é 2 pedais em 1 ( O Overdrive do lendário pedal marshall Drive Master, e a distorção lendária do Shared Master) é como se você tivesse esses 2 pedais vintage, num único pedal. Só que com o recurso do famoso ´´contour`` o que é uma mão na roda, pra conseguir diferentes timbragens. Vale a pena você ter os 2 pedais do review. Todos os dois, te dará o timbre de um Marshall. Mas se gostar de blues, ai pegue o Marshall Bluesbreaker ( muito bom também, e tem booster com controle de volume)
Salve, Ricardo. Tenho o Guv'nor (GV-2) e gosto bastante dele. Acho bem Uriah Heep, que é uma banda que eu gosto. Você disse que tem todos Marshall... você tem o EH-1 (o delay)? Poderia comentar sobre a função tap tempo dele? É de rápida resposta?
Gualter Souza amigo, tenho o Ecohead (EH1) mas nunca cheguei a usá-lo no board. Eu coleciono pedais, dai comprei ele a vínculo de coleção mesmo. Eu uso um DD-3, e um DD-7 no board. Mas vou fazer um teste com ele, e assim que possível, lhe dou minha opinião
Dear Gearmandude! If you can, please, do competition for Guv'nor Vintage, Guv'nor Korean "GV-1" and Guv'nor GV-2 plus! With respect, your subscriber MyOutMind.
Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall.... this is magic or what.. everything in the world of rock is Marshall.. you know what!? bite me!
@Gabriopunk77 If three examples of well known players who play very high gain sounds through single coils isn't enough to show you the possibilities that exist, then I suppose nothing will...
He brought out his best shoes for this demo. :p
im TOTALLY subscribing to Jack Black. He knows his shit.
Both pedals rock!!! i could never understand why people look for "marshall in a box" and pay 200 bucks for boutique pedals like , wampler plextortion, pinnacle, Carl martin plexitone and so on , MI audiocrunchbox (100 bucks) when you can have above mentioned marshall pedals for 60 bucks and have great tone!!!!
i had both pedals. now i own jackhammer and original shredmaster. Just wanted to say that Jackhammer's DS mode sounds exactly like Shredmaster.
These are the most underrated pedals in history... I have used a Marshall GV-2 for over 7 years, and it is one bitchin pedal --- you can pick these up for about $70 all day long...
Buying one for less than $20 used in excellent condition soon. Buyer doesn't like it and is ditching it for close to nothing.
You will like it, these are great pedals...
Same thing here with the Jackhammer, way underrated. Needs some time to fiddle with the mid controls, and the OD side is much better than the Dist. Once you find the right setting for your gear, though, it's amazing
Eu tenho o Marshall Guvnor e é o meu preferido pelos timbres a lá Gary Moore. Mas tenho vontade de pegar o Jackhhamer pois tambem é otimo.( I have the Guvnor 2 e Its great)
Jackhammer the best pedal i have ever had, still currently have it with 3 other different Distortions ( A Rat Distortion, Big Muff Fuzz, Paisley Drive). Hands best pedal i have played, so versatile.
Better than a Paisley? Wow!
What’s the jackhammer like at boosting an already overdriven amp?
@@garywilliams1858 not as good as their bb2 but useable! i recommend the jackhammer +bb2 Combo for full versaitility
@clicheguevara9917 good to hear. I have a Bb2 and am buying a Jackhammer
Got a Jackhammer JH1 today for $40. Build like a thank, and sounds great cause I use it as a bass boost/ clean boost. Sounds really good.
Dan DeWitt old comment, but I just figured this out myself. I’m leaving it on all the time.
overdrive mode on Jackhammer is pretty similar to Guvnor pedal at least it's possible to make both pedal sound the same on OD mode!
The Jackhammer is the ultimate pedal for brutal bassguitar overdrive in my opinion.
Marshall's best friend is the Gibson les paul
Chris Clune A tele is a man's guitar.
+Ulla Wirtanen And an SG is the axe of a man who's made a pact with the devil.
Chris Clune yes it is
Every guitarist knows teles don't do marshall. Strats sg l.p.ok. tele Hywatt orange vox twin reverb
Ignorant comment sigh
i had both pedals sold em and missed the jh1so picked up another Jackhammer Overdrive on it is killer
I have the GV2 and before buying it did a side by side comparison with the Jackhammer and the I liked the GV2 more and bought it!
These pedals are underrated, built like a tank and sound AWESOME!
Both of these pedals sound killer. That Jackhammer has BALLS. I'd use the Guv'nor for 60s style tones and Zep tones, and the Jackhammer for 70s-80s tones and DEFINITELY for that ballsy, AC/DC sound where you can hear the amp cab pumping.
The Velvet Jackhammer .I love it. the GUVner 1/2 is no slouch either. You Tube doesnt do the tonestack on eithet of these pedals justice. They are both amps in a box!
I like the Guvnor sound better.
danelectr sounds more Marshall'y to my taste
the GV-2 sounds much more musical to me.
YOU SOUND JUST LIKE JACK BLACK! Thanks for the vid. I've been checking out lots of pedals, and came back to youtube for some help after a few years of not even logging in. Stumbled on your vid relatively quickly along with another of yours and almost made up a three week decision in 20 minutes.
Jajaja, es cierto !!😅
A Marshall's best friend is a Telecaster? Lmao!
+Biker Tramp Good for Status Quo stuff.
@Pillnut I use a hughes & kettner switchblade, and I have a marshall AVT2000, but I want some cool thingy on my hughes, I bought a Wampler Super Plextortion and I love it, thanks you!
Can you do a comparion video of the original Marshall Guvnor from c1990 with the Marshall GV2+, please?
The Guv sounds real.
GUV'NOR!!! its much more musical in tone
Quite happy you did this one, No one's done the gv2. I bought it out of the blue at a store cause it was just as much as a ds1 and clearance. quite happy i did.
A Tele sounds great thru a Jackhammer. Using a Fender Lite Ash with stock pickups thru one into a Blues Deluxe. Pedal OD is at 12:00 and I leave it on all the time. One thing that these reviews don't show is that the pedal is touch sensitive. Set the guitar volume a little above 3/4, lighten ur pick attack and u can play play full clean chords then play hard and get a great distorted tone. For leads, just max the volume. BTW less highs at the amp will fix the ratty fuzzy top end.
GV2 sounds more like a tube amp. JCM 800 maybe.
It would be helpful to the people watching the video if we knew which controls are being tweeked...all I can see is knobs being turned throughout the video; without knowing what you're turning. Doesn't give the viewer much of an idea as to how each control functions without being able to see what's being turned.
I got a jackhammer today. It's got a lot of balls in it. A lot.
Sounds good with a bad monkey before it going into a clean valve amp.
The guv'nor sounds sweet but i think im gonna buy the JH1. Thanks again GMD for helping me choose. You are the guv'nor!!!!
Thanks for the head to head review. I was interested in both pedals but was undecided as to which way to go. However, thanks to your review I now know the Guv'nor is more suited to my style of playing..... Love the boots :) keep wearing them ... Cheers mate!
Jack hammer maybe, because it have 2 mode give us more change to explore sound, distortion i think good taste for rock
I think that the Jackhammer JH1 is the best pedal to play heavy music... it´s something like gold and Boss metalzone is the silver (the second best).
Either of those sound great for any old-school rock.
Owned both some years ago and they managed to make my Ampeg Jet sound like a Marshall...MG. Got rid of 'em for a Tonebone Hot-British.No comparison.
3:05 was the sweet spot for the Jackhammer.
Happy i have the Guv. It sounds more punchy to my ears. The Jack seams to miss something I can’t really put my finger on. But it’s awesome only the Guv fits my ears the best🤘🏻
@RSguitarEFFECTS I think I will.
Hopefully this clone won't disappoint me, I haven't been able to find any other clones that actually nail its tone based on clips. This guy making it actually gives a damn about relying on his ears in the process, which in the end I think is what really matters not just getting the schematic right.
i use the GV2 for a really harsh punky/hardcore sound and i love it!! very versatile pedal, can get blues, metal, rock, punk, hardcore, grunge, classic rock and thrash sounds out of it if your smart and you try hard enough. shame they arent true bypass, HOWEVER the bypass is pretty damn good, dont let that turn you off this pedal!
@grizzlibear500 the only good thing i can say about the Guv'nor plus is the great bass response it has, but yeah other than that its on point for the cheap price
GOV'NOR GV-2+ - sounds more full
JACKHAMMER JH-1 - sounds more nasaly, tighter, and more scooped, at extreme settings it can sound a little compressed and too nasaly, but still good.
***as always, it depends on what other gear you're using, how all of your gear complements/works against each other, what sound you're looking for, how it feels, and what you're willing to pay***
THANKS FOR THIS COMPARISON!!!
marshal jackhammer !! tank you this is the sound I was loocking for
Sounds good, I've always been a big Guvnor fan.
Though I think the vintage Guvnor sounds even better by quite a bit. Only problem is finding one and if you do they are usually pretty banged up.
Fortunately I was able to find a guy under the name "Stomptone" who can make me a clone. I've heard his version A/B'd against the real deal, I was really impressed and I think he nailed it, a lot of the schematics out there are pretty bunk.
I might even make a vid of my own comparing it to the GV-2...
@RSguitarEFFECTS Thats what I want to see/hear. I have the GV-2 and it doesn't sound anything like what i remeber of the O. G.ov'
The jh sounds more expensive and a bit warmer imho
Marshall guvnor plus is better for my Power-Blues Sound! Great!!!
I have the Marshall Bluesbreaker BB2 overdrive pedal. Sucks so hardcore. Its only saving grace is the clean boost mode which gets a great, light tubey breakup. The overdrive setting sounds so digital, though. These sound like they have similar issues.
Boost mode is wonderful specially used to stack another overdrive
jh-1 sounds more agressive
What do you recomend today like Jackhammer JH-1? Must be better pedal afrer 15 years ))
I requested this! GMD is the man!!
GMD, could you please do a side-by-side comparison between the Guv'nor and other Marshall style OD pedals, like the OCD, MI Audio Crunchbox, Wampler Plexdrive, Xotic BB? Thanks!
I actually have the Jackhammer. I used to love it, but swapped it out for my Luther Drive :)
Marshall's best friend is a vintage Gibson Les Paul. Like your black one.
I like both and they sounds similar. the JH has more gain. which one In should buy for my Mono channel ampli head plexi style Marshall Origin 50H ?
@Gabriopunk77 @Gabriopunk77 single coils or humbuckers, blues or metal, high gain or sparkling clean... use whatever that works man. fyi, Paul Gilbert uses DiMarzio's Injector pickups, which are of single coils.
@Gabriopunk77 gee, thanks... it has cool price too..
@Gabriopunk77
telecaster has bean use for the blues... in generation boy...
and it it really nice play... i have play a telecaster... it is awsome tone and uniqe
5:13
"YEAAAAAAAAH!!!"
@The1970sInfatuate 100% agree
@billiejoecovers Out of the 2 I'd say the Guv'nor is WAY more Slash. The Jackhammer is more of a metal distortion thing going on whereas the Guv'nor is a smooth overdrive like Slash uses. Check out "sound like slash for under 1000", It's a great video. :)
these pedals are so underated,
Pedals are almost the same thing, I like the Guv'nor better though. Cool boots:)
Hey GMD, do you think you could get your hands on a BK Butler Tube Driver and demo one of those? I've seen a few demos but they don't seem to do a great job showing all the features of a tube driver.
I like The Hackhammer thanks for the vid man
alex machado me tire uma dúvida. esses pedal e chinês ? Qual é o original?
@ZakkHendrix666 thank you ! I'll buy that one
@billiejoecovers You should get Slashes hands, his mind for his note choice and vibrato, his Les Paul and ofcourse his AFD 100 marshall head. And if you want to play November rain as soulfully as him, you'll probably need his heart. :)
@Rapadi87 Cool thnx a lot !
There are better pedals out there, but I owed about 3 Guv'nor. Sold bought, sold bought back again. Its a real cheap and honest pedal, will make crappy amps sound like a marshall. What more can you possibly ask ?
After I got my Blackstar HT-5, I gave it to my girl's brother-in-law, because I just refused to sell it for the third time. lol
Rock on GMD! I Just subscribed into your channel =D
peace
Hi GMD a question for you those pedals are with true bypass very nice review cheers !!!!!!!!!
The JH-1 seems to have a more pronounced low end. Does the GV-2+ 'Deep' control allow it to match the JH-1's low end?
definitely the GV2 for punk, probably the JH1 for grunge, but you can get mucky grunge tones from the GV2 and great punk sounds
hey !
I wanted to ask you something, wich pedal do you think is better, the digitech bad monkey or the marshall guvnor? I like playing rock n' roll, you know acdc stuff and all that kind of music...
I hope you can answer!
are these pedals affordable? i like these.... good for bluesy kinda thing..
i think gearmandude has provenscientifically beyond any doubt...get both, you know you want to. get one youll want the other, youll end up with both anyway. dont fight it
Guv'nor all the way!
but, after all, a tele is great to show off some pedals.
@Rapadi87 Yeah, I'm not hearing that pal.
Please some info about the setup;the amp settings and guitar pickups,thanks
Which one would be best to boost the crunch channel on Marshall tsl60?
@afanofyou his name is Eric Whorton
Im breaking my head to get one of those guv'nor now =( I want some... marshallish overdrive to crank my hughes & kettner crunch channel... hope it works xD I really need to be a lot more... marshallized xD
whnever i see one of your vids i cant help thinking the you're woodie harrelson playing... anyway, great videos man!
I own both a Jackhammer and a Bluesbreaker 2. In my opinion the Jachammer has much more natural overdrive sound than the Bluesbreaker 2. Thats why I use the Jackhammer for blues /rock and the Bluesbreaker for boosting the sound. The Jackhammer is very versatile, the Contour and Contour Freq. knobs can are great. The Drive sound of Bluesbreaker 2 is somewhat digital. According to this comparison video I'm very interested in the Guvnor!
Tenho todos os pedais da linha Marshall. Simplesmente ótimos
Ricardo qual é assemelha mais com o timbre marshall
Sergio Targ Amigo, todos os 2 pedais do review, irão te dar um timbre Marshall. Sendo que o Guv'nor, nada mais é, do que uma versão moderna do clássico pedal da marshall ( muito bom por sinal, já tive o prazer de comparar o dois lado a lado) Já o Jackhammer, a proposta da empresa, era que você pudesse atingir o timbre do Marshall JTM 2000 ( impossível) mas você consegue tranquilo, o drive quente dos clássicos Marshall valvestate ingleses dos anos 90 ( tendo lógico, mais recursos de timbragem) o Jackhammer é 2 pedais em 1 ( O Overdrive do lendário pedal marshall Drive Master, e a distorção lendária do Shared Master) é como se você tivesse esses 2 pedais vintage, num único pedal. Só que com o recurso do famoso ´´contour`` o que é uma mão na roda, pra conseguir diferentes timbragens. Vale a pena você ter os 2 pedais do review. Todos os dois, te dará o timbre de um Marshall. Mas se gostar de blues, ai pegue o Marshall Bluesbreaker ( muito bom também, e tem booster com controle de volume)
Salve, Ricardo. Tenho o Guv'nor (GV-2) e gosto bastante dele. Acho bem Uriah Heep, que é uma banda que eu gosto. Você disse que tem todos Marshall... você tem o EH-1 (o delay)? Poderia comentar sobre a função tap tempo dele? É de rápida resposta?
Gualter Souza amigo, tenho o Ecohead (EH1) mas nunca cheguei a usá-lo no board. Eu coleciono pedais, dai comprei ele a vínculo de coleção mesmo. Eu uso um DD-3, e um DD-7 no board. Mas vou fazer um teste com ele, e assim que possível, lhe dou minha opinião
Ok obrigado
Dear Gearmandude! If you can, please, do competition for Guv'nor Vintage, Guv'nor Korean "GV-1" and Guv'nor GV-2 plus! With respect, your subscriber MyOutMind.
Here's a stupid question...who's the distributer in america
Jackhammer is more scooped, with less midtones, while guvnor is more burned
Can you tell me what where the settings at 3:06? If you can
yeah its jack!
Guys! In the doubt, buy the two Haha, perfects for many styles!!!
Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall Marshall.... this is magic or what.. everything in the world of rock is Marshall.. you know what!? bite me!
The Guvnor's got some snazz!
Didn't sound that good. Guvnor definitely sounded better but it was still kind of meh.
jack, where have you been?
that Guv'nor kicks ass
Guvnor makes your amp really sound like a vox, or are you using a vox?
which one is better for punk and grunge?
is this pedal very affordable? how much? i like these
This is quite dangerous to raise such discussions as : What's better Distortion or Overdrive?
But still cool review, Jack :).
@Gabriopunk77 If three examples of well known players who play very high gain sounds through single coils isn't enough to show you the possibilities that exist, then I suppose nothing will...