I was gonna say 😂 2nd rep he kinda was still leaning forward and you do not want that especially if your goal isn’t endurance but max explosiveness and power
@@bamafit1302 … is it though? I know that when I have a lean at the start I can drive my hips harder to propel the barbell up higher. If my torso stay more vertical at the beginning I most likely will miss the hang clean at the same weight.
The first rep was better because he was using leg power. I hang clean like this. In 2nd rep he was leaning forward and used his back power to lower and raise the bar. This might work for lower weights. With maximal weights he want to use your legs not your back for explosive movement.
Все просто! В первом варианте, атлет принимает позицию с вертикальным корпусом. Во втором варианте, атлет принимает позицию с наклонённым корпусом. При использовании последнего варианта, атлет покажет больше энергии
by olly hang clean do you mean a full hang clean as opposed to a power, or a clean from the floor instead of from the hang, in which case it wouldn’t be called a hang clean anymore?
Look man, one thing I'm in weightlifting and that clean you hit the bar very hard with your hip and it goes a lot forward, try as my coach says: I'll shave my chest with the bar, greetings 😁😁
@@Reglaizedhe was leaning too far forward on the second one. His feet drive was better but you’re supposed to pull into your hip pocket and then lean back and thrust up with it.
On some others tutorial incorrect way is correct way since it allows you to build explosiveness (like you mentioned) and correct way use back which can lead to injury.
The "correct way" is just an earlier stage in the pull ( if you're starting from the ground). You still need to get to the first position "incorrect way for contact. Summary: In power position and contact both correct way and incorrect way look the same.
You should be fully extending your ankles, knees, and hips straight upward which drives the bar up. You should not drive your hips into the bar which pushes the bar away from you and bleeds power from the bar.
I have found the technique for the clean varies across different regions. The Russians do it differently than the Bulgarians, that do it differently than the Chinese
Power. Pop. It seems this dude is overexaggerating the jump but if done right you'll literally triple extend into your feet leaving the ground and you POP your feet back to the ground to catch yourself before the weight comes down into the rest position
How do you avoid hurting your wrist with these? Also, i noticed that front squats require the same type of wrist bending. Puts a bunch of strain where you dont want it.
I've got the same issue, front squats actually hurt my wrists more because atleast with these you can switch out of the painful position once you return to the starting position of the clean.
he had a better extension and turnover on the first rep. on the second one he cut extension WAY too short and didn’t keep pulling with the elbows up after extension.
The first way was more efficient. A trained eye can see the second didn't get full extension at the top of the pull and there was more of a jump back too.
@@Anton-xm8xs you commented elsewhere that I shouldn’t expect him to demonstrate a triple extension with 50kg but now you’re asking what’s wrong with it?
@@ChainNation np. But don’t take my advice word for word. Listen to your body. Start a bit light, and work to your working weight again. Idk how bad your shoulder is
Let's see it with more weight. The 115lbs doesn't give us beginners any feedback. It makes it look like either is okay, because the ease of the lift. Your feet position went backwards on the second lift is that supposed to happen?
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A beginner can never find any shitty difference 😂
Edit: Honestly, people can't even figure out what I'm saying lmao.
The correct way is to bend over in the first clip he didn’t really bend
A beginner shouldn’t even be doing snatches imo
@@mylesmcintyre385Good thing he isn't doing snatches
@@graffitiszn my bad, I don’t really do any Olympic lifts
You just told what's on my mind
Summary: Hinge at the waist & keep a proud chest
Aka shoulder over bar
Thank you
Humble chest
I just started doing these two days ago and according to other videos I've seen, the first one was the correct one
Same here, now I'm confused.
The first one is def the correct one
depends on your technique i prefer the WRONG version since its not wrong and you build a linear momentum...
Lo😂 the first rep was actually better.
I was gonna say 😂 2nd rep he kinda was still leaning forward and you do not want that especially if your goal isn’t endurance but max explosiveness and power
@@bamafit1302 … is it though? I know that when I have a lean at the start I can drive my hips harder to propel the barbell up higher. If my torso stay more vertical at the beginning I most likely will miss the hang clean at the same weight.
I’m guessing the starting position? Shoulders over bar on second one.
no hip hinge in the first
The first rep was better because he was using leg power. I hang clean like this.
In 2nd rep he was leaning forward and used his back power to lower and raise the bar.
This might work for lower weights. With maximal weights he want to use your legs not your back for explosive movement.
Все просто! В первом варианте, атлет принимает позицию с вертикальным корпусом. Во втором варианте, атлет принимает позицию с наклонённым корпусом. При использовании последнего варианта, атлет покажет больше энергии
“Is it worth losing a limb just to get 2 stronger” 💀💀💀
This is a CrossFit hang clean. Not an olly hand clean. To any beginners. Learn the olly lifting hang clean. Not this.
Yeah I don’t know what he thinks he’s doing here but this isn’t a clean by any stretch.
Dude's technique is pretty shit tbh
by olly hang clean do you mean a full hang clean as opposed to a power, or a clean from the floor instead of from the hang, in which case it wouldn’t be called a hang clean anymore?
@@bigguy4u989olympic
What’s the difference
Look man, one thing I'm in weightlifting and that clean you hit the bar very hard with your hip and it goes a lot forward, try as my coach says: I'll shave my chest with the bar, greetings 😁😁
The “incorrect” way was actually closer to the correct way.
How so? I think the correct way is closer. But I do think he could recreate the second knee bend better.
@@Reglaizedhe was leaning too far forward on the second one. His feet drive was better but you’re supposed to pull into your hip pocket and then lean back and thrust up with it.
@@heather2061He wasn't leaning too far. His shoulders are still over the bar. I can only hang clean like the 2nd example as well.
I hang clean the first way. The explosion upwards comes from the legs, not the back.
Absolutely not. He's doing a hang clean NOT a HIGH hang clean in which he could lean back or even keep a straight back with chest forward
It appears that if you were doing this to help your vertical leap, the “incorrect “ way might be more useful
On some others tutorial incorrect way is correct way since it allows you to build explosiveness (like you mentioned) and correct way use back which can lead to injury.
The "correct way" is just an earlier stage in the pull ( if you're starting from the ground). You still need to get to the first position "incorrect way for contact.
Summary: In power position and contact both correct way and incorrect way look the same.
Are you actually using the front of your legs to thrust is forwards in conjunction with using your arms to swing it upwards?
Should feel like you’re pulling the bar upwards through the whole movement. It’s an RDL mixed with a shrug and a high pull
i know a retired crossfitter that recommends the first one for beginners and for jumping power development
You should be fully extending your ankles, knees, and hips straight upward which drives the bar up. You should not drive your hips into the bar which pushes the bar away from you and bleeds power from the bar.
I agree. But the hip extention was better with the fiest one.
These build in Incredible power as you progress with heavier weight great forearm builder too
If you feel it in your forearms, you’re not doing it right.
@@AnthonyBolognese710 i feel it in my penis am i doing it correctly?
@@AnthonyBolognese710you’re gripping a lot of weight. You’re bound to feel it in your forearms
@@ashandesilva9455 ok to some degree I suppose, but you’re not reverse curling it.
@@ashandesilva9455normal gripping would be wrong cuz with hook grip the bar accelerates faster so u shouldn't use a forearm dependent grip
Both are incomplete extension. Try that with heavier weight you will see that you can’t bring it high enough to catch.
I have found the technique for the clean varies across different regions. The Russians do it differently than the Bulgarians, that do it differently than the Chinese
First one is bringing the bar to you with an upward torso. The second one is hinging your torso to fully extend up in the hang clean
Got it- make sure you use hinge and keep elbows in that position
Great tip
Hinge should be from the hips, spine and shoulder never drop.
He’s keeping his shoulders over the bar in the second. That’s the difference
Omg csn we put this in slow motion .. been working in mine and love this .. but need to learn to be more explosive
I still never understood why the big stomps
Power. Pop. It seems this dude is overexaggerating the jump but if done right you'll literally triple extend into your feet leaving the ground and you POP your feet back to the ground to catch yourself before the weight comes down into the rest position
How do you avoid hurting your wrist with these?
Also, i noticed that front squats require the same type of wrist bending. Puts a bunch of strain where you dont want it.
I've got the same issue, front squats actually hurt my wrists more because atleast with these you can switch out of the painful position once you return to the starting position of the clean.
Why do you advise more of a back pull than a hip/thigh pull?
I was always taught to squat more and explode from my legs through my hips.
2 вариант тоже не правильный потому что раскрытия трапецией вообще не было а значит движение скошено и при большем весе штангу будет брать труднее.
Why is the bar moving away from your body instead of staying tight?
he had a better extension and turnover on the first rep. on the second one he cut extension WAY too short and didn’t keep pulling with the elbows up after extension.
Great demo
perfection ❤❤❤❤❤
Thankyou sir..really helping me out
Gracias a usted aprendimos a ser mejor
shoulders behind the bar VS over the bar
maybe a bit more emphasis on the triple extension too though.
The first way was more efficient. A trained eye can see the second didn't get full extension at the top of the pull and there was more of a jump back too.
This is not appropriate for olympic weightlifting. Triple extension is needed. Second one is basically just a hip hinge
Like a beginner would be able to spot the difference
I have no clue what is happening. I simply put bar on shoulders.
Can anyone explain if this is actually correct? And what is the difference?
Jumping backwards in both 😢😂
Are we really supposed to jump off the floor. I’m asking seriously and respectfully. If so, I been doing it wrong.
Both are wrong. You’re supposed to widen your stance after the little jump and not come back to the same position
Come on guys do we need barbell collars in power clean
Wait but i seen someone say not to do the way you said was wrong and use more legs than back. Please explain why?. I actually really dont know
Does that hurt your knee?
Real story, he’s just trying to query us with this video because he doesn’t really know.
Whys should your arms be bent at the start?
First rep looked better....
No triple extension.. far from perfect form
Exactly what I noticed!
The hips!!!!
He needs more weight to demonstrate triple extension effectively, but the dude doesn’t know what he’s doing anyway. Not great form at all.
@@AnthonyBolognese710What exactly is wrong with it
@@Anton-xm8xs you commented elsewhere that I shouldn’t expect him to demonstrate a triple extension with 50kg but now you’re asking what’s wrong with it?
The general surgeons specializing in hernias are jumping for joy.
the point of a clean is triple extension. your "correct" way nullifies the effectiveness of this movement
Cant see any shoulder shrugs...anyone does?
ABH: Always Be Hinging.
Would it be fair to say that you should focus on pushing your hips into the bar instead of bringing the bar to your hips?
So lean over the bar
I’ve never done the second one 💀
Umm... first is correcter than the second
Legs 🦵 arms just go along for the ride.
What’s the difference I’m so confused
I just swing like he does but i don't jump its risky
You arent jumping. You are just falling so get underneath it. Common misconception
@@kevinwheeler5595the dude in the video totally jumped. Lol. Watch it in slow motion.
😂😂😂LO VEO Y LO VEO Y NO ENCUENTRO LA, DIFERENCIA ENTRE LO BIEN HECHO Y LO MAL HECHO 😂😂😂QUIEN DA UN EXPLICASION😊
Backward ?
Ни то и ни другое не совсем верно а вот что-то между этими двумя вариантами и есть истина.
Cross dresser clean
To start you don't even open your knees outwards, bad technique
Both are fine.
A weightlifter will laugh watching this
This is a hang power clean, not a hang clean.
Can u explain how to get elbows like that? Mine stay down
When jumping to lift the bar high, make sure to shrug your shoulders and also keep your hands shoulder width apart
Corrected the least important part and then messed up the most important part
Yeaaaah… there’s a reason this guys lifts are mid. Most Olympic lifters don’t do it like this
Nah bro. The first one was closer
I recently just messed up my left deltoid doing this I don’t know how long I should take to rest before returning to work outs any advice?
Maybe a week give or take some days. Idk that’s what I’d do
thanks for your help I appreciate it
@@ChainNation np. But don’t take my advice word for word. Listen to your body. Start a bit light, and work to your working weight again. Idk how bad your shoulder is
Poor extension in both examples, so neither is correct.
You need to clean up your clean technique
Try to lean forward like that holding 300 pounds and do it again
TO ME! That hop isn’t necessary, specially with heavier weight.
Muted hip tf
That's a hang power clean
This is not the way to do it.
I couldn’t see the difference. Pls talk next time.
Why are you doing it with 115 you can clearly do more, the form doesn’t look the same at little weight
Zero triple extension.
It's literally 50 kg. What would you except?
@@Anton-xm8xs for him to use enough weight to properly demonstrate the triple extension.
For those who don’t see it: he bends over like you would if we’re trying to jump really high, instead of squatting down.
速すぎて何が違うのかイマイチわからない
Great form 💪🏾
Оба варианта не верны!
LIE!!! MORE FROM THE LEGS....
So it’s almost like the top half of an RDL? Crazy..
We have to ask Anatoly for this one.
Thigh , Knee , Thigh UP!
Let's see it with more weight. The 115lbs doesn't give us beginners any feedback. It makes it look like either is okay, because the ease of the lift. Your feet position went backwards on the second lift is that supposed to happen?
Ну ну
Don't do either of these
Whats the point of this seriously?
Worst educational video out there
?????
Я лучше знаю
I dont know if i like the correct way, you’re way forward with your chest