Pilot REFUSES to follow ATC instructions. Pilot deviation. Real ATC Audio
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This guy needs to have his permit revoked. He's just doing whatever he wants. This will end up in a disaster sooner or later.
A-hole.
No disaster sooner or later because he’s been living there 25 years 😂😂. Oh man.. good job ATC
I am neither a pilot nor controller, but this annoyed the hell out of me. What a foolish, reckless man to ignore instructions. He could get himself or others killed. Yank his license!
Bad controller. I was one and a manager before I retired.
@@WWPlaysHoldem Bad controller? How so, specifically?
@@pacnwguy9056 I am a controller. WWPlaysHoldem saying he was a manager is a dead giveaway he wasn't a great controller. That said, he's right in that the way the controller handled this is troubling.
The pilot's original plan of staying to the west and south of the field was actually the best plan of all, just not well communicated. Keeps them completely clear of the right hand pattern. But because of poor communication and the controller and pilot stepping on each others' transmissions, the controller was locked into thinking the pilot wanted direct to the shore to the north of the field.
Once the pilot was given instructions to go north of the field, he is at fault for not following them. But the controller got completely sucked into this situation and basically lost control of the other traffic. Epic Red 508 deserves major props for recognizing the controller was letting 508 and 386 potentially join a final at the same time and they controlled the situation for the controller by extending downwind.
Overall the pilot was a hazard, but so was the controller.
@@NoneYaBusiness998 Hopefully WWPlaysHoldem will see this, he owes you a big thank you for stepping in and explaining and clarifying what *HE* said. Have a good night.
@@NoneYaBusiness998I agree with your assessment. However, saying that the other guy wasn’t a great controller is ridiculous. You have no idea about his career.
I hate when people say, “I’ve been living here for 25 years….”, That means they have been doing it all WRONG for the past 25 years!
In 27 years of flying NOT ONCE did i not comply with atc..NOT ONCE !
NOT ONCE!
You flew kites?
I am with you! Never in my 57 plus years as a pilot have I acted like this.
But were you flying the same route the whole time and expecting the world to adjust because you were there first?
@@GWNorth-db8vn There are some nitwits near my FBO that believes the class D belongs to them. unfortunately, no shortage of entitled people in the air these days
This type of person always knows better than everyone else.
Totally arrogant
The ignorance is just mind blowing
I think I understand the type. He is trying to use imprecise language and avoid reading back instructions with precise language. So when confronted it will be a subjective discussion what it means to "just clip you on your south side". Willfully misleading, but hard to hold accountable unless someone takes the bother to waste radio time on him.
The ATC used some colloquial language as well: "Fly a heading of about 070 to the shoreline". Personally (as a student pilot) I would have read back "Heading 070" instead of "that is what I am doing" or even "wilco"; I noticed that repeating the details makes me look at my gyro to make sure I am actually flying that heading. Same for altitude or traffic instructions.
Once I got a clear but very unusual traffic direction for our airport from the ATC (one that isn't on the VFR charts). I said Wilco but it just didn't "click" in my mind and I was about to fly the usual approach until the CFI asked "Are you sure you know here to go". Repeating the ATC instruction in my head helped... but better to properly read back and get it right the first time.
This is an old one... but still a solid good one of what DO NOT DO as a pilot.
Any word on what happened as far as consequences
@@Uisci81 Pilot is still flying in the area, you can find it on any of the flight apps, then go to live atc and pull up the archive. He seems to be more behaved in his communications.
This is a case of local pilot in a small airplane that is easy to fly with a ton of experience in that particular aircraft, but forgot all of his training and became a 100% Visual seat of the pants flyer. He will eventually get himself in trouble if he has to get flight following to get down some day. The controllers fault was assuming this was a properly trained pilot who knows how to look at anything but his fuel gauge. But the controller was right when the clip became a full intrusion into the airspace. If you are curious, any of the flight sites with archives will show he is still flying. You can look up the archives of those flights on LiveATC to see if he learned anything other than you will see he is clearly steering clear of the bravo since then.
Old vid, but still gotta be one of the most infuriating to listen to. I cannot imagine flying anywhere near that clown. The arrogance and entitlement is disgusting. I’d like to see him try that BS down here in SoCal. The controller was patient beyond patient.
As soon as you hear his voice on the initial contact, you already know his type. It's always the GA pilots who try to talk with an "airline pilot voice" on the radio, but never made it to the airlines.
That's not fair. I am an (and know a LOT of) GAs who respect the space. I think assholes like this are the very minority. They are usually the ones who have their own private strip in a corn field. TBF on that, I've flown out of a few of those strips and even they were sincere and respectful. This pilot was just an arrogant douchebag.
This is Florida. That's an honest swamp accent. Pilots used to imitate Chuck Yeager, who was from West Virginia.
A lot of GA pilots never tried to make it to the airlines. A lot of them have their own career already in something else.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 those who don't have interest in the airlines wouldn't try to imitate an airline pilot voice.
@@rnav36 where the heck do you even get that? When I was an instructor, I had students in their 50s and 60s who usually were extremely successful with their business and had no intention of going to the airlines, but they would try and sound professional on the radio.
Nobody is trying to “imitate an airline voice”. Most just want to sound professional.
Only a 14 year old would try and imitate.
Probably a career drunk.
Funny. The Flying Alkies !
the pilot was trying to gaslight the controller by lying two times about his real heading; he could have gone southbound and east to the shoreline but no he wanted to fly southeast right over the damn airport...
More money than brains.
There is so much wrong with what this pilot did and I sure hope he faced some consequences. It just really isn't that difficult to follow ATC instructions.
Pilot is a rock.
Very old video re-posted. Sounded like a good ol boy that doesn’t follow ATC instructions and doesn’t use proper radio phraseology.
"I hear you"
Agreed to everything then does just what he wanted to do anyway. Then denies it.
709 ride. Immediately.
Hasn’t this been making the rounds for years now?
Textbook example of the Anti-Authority hazardous attitude. Hope he got a wake up call when he called the tower but I doubt it.
Playing devil's advocate there, I don't know why he didn't just left him fly I-95 till south of the east-west extended centerline then have him make his turn to the east. They were working right traffic that day and there should have been no factor.
And he’s a Super Cub guy, so you know he’s cool. That’s why he doesn’t need to follow directions or use correct phraseology. Hello I’m impressed he’s even on the radio. Usually these guys don’t want to be on ADSB or have a radio or nothing. He should go fly a kite.
Old vid. And now my ask: what happened to that (reckless) guy?
So did he get arrested at landing?
He told the tower he was going to follow the highway and possibly clip the SOUTHWEST corner of the control area. He was clear about what he wanted to do. The tower said he couldn't understand how he could get to the shore flying SW bound. The tower mis-heard the pilot. The pilot was clear, tower, not so much.
This. I'm not familiar with the area, but looking at a sectional, I see exactly what the pilot was planning to do. Visually follow I-95 southbound, which, as he said, just barely grazes the south-west edge of the EVB airspace. As an added bonus, visually following the highway helps keep you clear of A-294. Sounds like a smart plan for a VFR flight using pilotage in complicated airspace. All the pilot was required to do to enter the CDAS was establish two-way communication with the tower, which he did.
The tower controller misunderstood this and inexplicably started giving instructions to a VFR pilot in Class E Airspace, who was probably confused as to why this controller was telling him to do these things. I agree that the pilot made things worse by acknowledging these instructions and then not following them, but it started with the controller's mistake. If this ever came down to a formal review, I don't think either the pilot or the controller would be happy with the outcome.
@@roysmith5902 controllers are allowed to issue instructions to VFR aircraft in class e
360ish
a 709 ride is a check ride with the FAA where if you do not perform, you have your pilot's license revoked.
Piper super cub. Prob doesn’t fly in controlled airport much possibly
What an adz
Im not a pilot, but it seems to me that pilots who ignore ATC instructions should have their licences revoked or at least suspended. Is that likely to happen in a case like this?
What were the consequences here?
Pretty sure I saw this incident over 6 months ago...
Is that pilot dense? Utter reprehensible behaviour. He can't just do what he wants to do.
He undoubtedly had someone in the right seat he was trying to impress. Machismo on total display. And ATC could have been less argumentative once it was resolved. Argue on the phone.
Is he drunk?😂😂😂
Some people shouldn’t be pilots.
Yank is license
That pilot wants reporting to the FAA hed got isdues sounds to that there was a n asstic pilot, he wan ted retraining or lose his license, when uouve got yhose prople in life tbey sre a pain in postier but in the air there needs to be air raid sirens in sky warnind people to syay vlear of these idiots kast year i was verbslly and somrone attrmpted to assaukt me now ivd got one verbslly showing there narcasstic ways keep clear from them at all costs
Cowboy
old incident
Florida Trumpers have their own rules. They've tried to show everyone that time and time again.
Piss poor controller in my humble opinion.
Why so?
Looks like we've found the pilot in question
Piss poor opinion.
😂😂😂 this thread should be good. Pray tell, why was the controller piss poor?
@@patlyle2621 Who made you an expert? My guess is you are a private pilot with very little flying experience. Obviously you are not a professional pilot like I have been for the past 54 years.