K-Pop Stars Opened a Night Club to Drug & Sell Women to Overseas Investors
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 16. 11. 2023
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It's ironic that if you smoke weed, you get more jail time than literal sex traffickers.
I agree that sex trafficking is a more serious crime, HOWEVER, the weed market in Korea is tied very closely to Korean gangs. If you buy/sell/smoke weed in Korea, you are directly supporting gang activity. THAT'S why it's punished so severely, not because they're ignorant.
@@ky9933well was this not gang basically ? selling HUMANS ???
@@ky9933en itâs the same in a lot of other places too tho so
@@lordzoe4072 All the more reason for harsh punishment for weed possession.
@@crazyformyseIf Your comment doesn't have anything to do with mine.
The fact that some ppl still blame the victims, says a lot about k-pop celeb obsession
I think it has more to do with r@pe culture as a whole than just kpop obsession
I think that is really common among stan culture in general from small CZcamsrs to billion dollar celebs. Taylor Swift could drive drunk and kill a family of 10 including grandparents and a newborn and too many of her stans would excuse her.
@@honeybunchesofchims9124Itâs both in this case. Youâre still right. Rape culture plays a part.
But the worship and parasocial enmeshment between fans and idols contributes to fans perception of victims as well. They donât want anyone ruining the image they have of their idol.
One of the celebrities involved, Lee Seungri, is still celebrated by his fans.
Iâve seen a lot of support coming from Indonesian and Malaysian female fans.
You can get doxxed and attacked on social media by those fans if you speak against him even though he served prison time for the part he played in this case.
They donât care. He is still their idol no matter what and they will say the victims are all liars and gold diggers.
@@dalpaengi yeah I completely agree with you. I've liked kpop for 8 years. I've seen a lot of people supporting monsters over the years. I remember where I was exactly when I found out about this whole situation. I was a VIP at the time(I still am, ot4 but that's besides the point) and I was so shocked that he could be involved in something like that.
Till this day I still see people defending bigbangs Seungri as well as many idols who SAâd women. Itâs like stans are out of touch with reality, they think idols arenât capable of doing these very disgusting things so they blame the victims
Edit: for all those saying no women accused seungri of bigbang, that still doesnât mean heâs a good person. At the end of the day he is still a horrible person for even selling women without them knowing and also allowing for these women to be drugged & r@ped by other men just so he could get some extra money. He still profited off of women who may never recover from the trauma this situation brought them.
The fact that the reporter who published this case, suffered 3 years of abuse and harassment from so called fans, and netizens, and suffered 2 miscarriages during that period makes me boil.
AND 2 MISCARRIAGES??? WHAT.
@@sjlvkashe even became childless after all
Not to mention Goo Hara
What happened to goharaâ@@minaenriquez
I remembered her report in real time. Whatâs so effed up is that he collaborated with big name female artists in his music. And for him to be a vile monster, and the way he treated women, itâs messed up how his label protected HIM.
I'm a high school girl in Korea.
First of all, I'm truly,sincerely grateful that bbc brought this up because If I raise questions about these kinds of issues at school, I'm branded a thumping piggy feminist, an "emotional disorder."
I shed tears of unknown reason when I saw comments from foreigners who said they would listen to this and stand in solidarity. Thank you very much.
When this incident broke out, Korea was quiet. When Room N broke out (a case in which 260,000 Korean men watched a video clip in which a caterpillar was placed on a video device sexually assaulting elementary, middle, and high school and adult women my age), Korean men exaggerated the incident, saying that the actual sexual assault rate would be reduced only when the victims watched such videos as "enjoyed" because they wanted to. The mastermind of this nightmare was sentenced to 40 years in prison, and the person who disclosed their personal information about the criminals in anger was sentenced to two years in prison.
Three years later, just yesterday, a group of male students from Seoul National University, the nation's most prestigious university, posted illegal compounds of 60 women from their alumni and enjoyed watching them in more than 200 chat rooms. Another man from a prestigious medical school killed his girlfriend, who told him to break up at the same school.
Even though women are being sexually assaulted and killed every day in this land, the media keeps silent about the demonstration of a female nursery teacher who has no motherhood, and Korean men treat me as if it is the only big deal. It is a sense of victimization. Women also enjoy watching children's play, but they cover up the case, saying, "Isn't it the female version of Room N?" I cannot comment on these issues at school. That is why I desperately need your attention and solidarity. please Don't believe what they say in K-drama. I hope women take care of yourself and stay safe.
I'm so sorry to hear this đ you all do not deserve to be treated this way, this is not normal. I really hope the condition of women and children in Korea get better.thank you for sharing all this, it must have been really difficult for you but trust me all these wouldn't go unnoticed. That's why I am very thankful for creators like Stephanie for shedding light on such cases and making international audiences more aware of the atrocities going around the world.
I have come to know a lot about the crimes and judicial system of Korea through Stephanie and it disgusts me to think that the men there think they can do whatever they want to women and go unscathed.I fully support the 4B movement, hope it can bring some justice.
Don't worry girl please be safe đą
I'm very sorry to hear that, I hope you are safe, I hope you find people that will always support you. It must be really hard to live in SK right now as a woman, I heard the current president is also a misogynist.
I'm so sorry to hear that. Knowing u're a high school student means u're still underage and soon will be legal. Please be safe always, be careful who you're friend with, don't trust people easily.
Stand strong. Im from Russia, i know not so proud to be from here, but i just want you to know that women all over the world stands strong with feminists from Korea.
Its insane when they give non-violent drug addicts, more prison time, than literal sex traffickers, rapists and abusers.
Korea is an extremely misogynistic patriarchal country, what do you expect?
Its because amongst the rich and super rich there are many rapists and rape supporters but the state wouldnt dare to punish them because they are funded by them. I feel like thats why "normal people" rapists are also not punished according to the crime - its to create loopholes if the rich are eventually caught in their vile acts.
not even prison time but also much more social shaming! i dont understand it.
That's why korea is not a safe place as they say.
They're RICH.
Shame on Hyuna. I donât care what people say. This is disgusting.
literally. and people are defending her saying she couldve known nothing? like, this controversy was HUGE in Korea and overseas.. shes a liar
â@@ivy8192yet he is goo hara's ex bf and hyunA was her bff.
Exactly!! I looked up the Burning Sun case because although I've been listening to K-Pop for about 7 years, I've never heard of it before. When I heard Hyuna's new man was a part of this case, I started watching this video. I'm not even half way done with this video, but I've teared up multiple times. My heart goes out to all the victims. Its crazy how in the beginning, no one believed them and called them crazy. The fact that Hyuna can date someone even a little bit involved in this case deeply upsets me and makes me want to throw up. It's so disappointing.
â@selina2786 I'm honestly rewatching this bc of that, like how could this feel ok when we know this? We can all figure he could use any positive attention - relationship gossip does well- but HyunA looking sus đ
@@grlkat she is so suspicious too. she advocates for women and the fact she was oversexualized, but goes ahead and dates a man who was invoted in THIS FREAKING CASE!! insane tbh
It took ONE MAN getting hurt to bring this all down. God knows how many women were assaulted. ONE MAN gets beat up and itâs all coming down.
A brave man that is speaking truth.
Just the treatment of women in Asia in short.
unfortunately, police didn't care about anyone, not the victims, not even the guy getting beat..f**king corrupt đ
Actually, that one man himself had harassed 3 women at burning sun, and the burning sun itself doesn't have any connection to molka chat . And again, molka chat is not connected to seungri
It's just so funny that people think everything someone says is true just because they are famous
@@anaadish6799bruh! Where have u been in 1.5hrs???
This is a reminder to the women who believes that all korean men are the oppas from kdrama.. they are FAR FROM IT.
Anyone can be a monster
It doesn't see race or gender
:/
ââ@@rosec_rose6661yes, but as a Korean girl, I can tell you because of the misogynistic and patriarchal Korean society, it is true Korean women are often victim of horrible crime. But the men only get 15-20yrs max in prison. Justice for women is almost never served in the Korean justice system
@@rosec_rose6661yes, but this is a place that encourages and ignored the victims the most. It is truly paradise for the monsters who gets so much advantage.
@rosec_rose6661 another heartbreaking case of women being assaulted and another "but women are monsters too!!! Men suffer!!!! MEN SUFFER TOO! """
And yes there are terrible and monstrous women but 99 percent of monsters (r*pists, human traffickers, murderers) are men, and you people are disgusting for pretending that men and women are equally bad
@@rosec_rose6661 yeah but some young girls now idolizing korean men
I swear South Korea sounds like such a dystopian place beneath all that glamor.
I find a lot of Western K-pop fans to be very, very naive. They think SK is all meeting BTS around every corner and cute hanboks. The reality is it has a seedy underbelly that is utterly devoid of western breakers like womens or LGBT rights. It is utterly terrifying that their high school system normalises male attacks on females if they don't give them sex. That an attack is what they can expect. There's little wonder many young SKers want to get out of SK.
It honestly is. I lived there for 10 years.
Because it is. I visited Seoul for a 3 week holiday for the first time last year and the cracks in their society started to show by the 2nd week. Literally nobody was happy unless if you're a foreigner, or someone on holiday. And there's no casual chitchat between strangers. Ever.
Dude, I swear to God people put Japan in Korea on a pedestal and the thing is theyâre no better than the United States like I know Japan is supposed to be the safest place on earth or at least one of them and it is and believe me if I had the money, I would be living in Japan right now, but that does not mean that it is the best place on the planet that does not mean itâs the safest place on the planet, and it certainly doesnât mean that itâs the most morally sound Place either and that especially goes for South Korea. They both have their problems but a lot of people who like anime, and K-pop always put them on a pedestal because God forbid anyone realistically looks at the country that they Are essentially falling in love with. I mean look at me. I absolutely love Japan I truly do Iâm even learning Japanese I love Korea I would never live there, especially with all the corruption with the government that everybody knew about even before the burning sun incident I mean look at the boat incident look at all of the different situations that Kore Has been in. I mean itâs no perfect place and neither is Japan. They both have their problems but I think realistically people are blinded by the things that they love in those countries so of course they like to put them on a pedestal and then thatâs the information that everybody gets everywhere. Everybody gets the romanticized version of South Korea and Japan and even China, even though all three of them have their problems and that is an especially China. Theyâre beautiful countries all of them but they have their own problems and that goes for every other country. Look at Puerto Rico everybody saying Puerto, Puerto Rico they go through this and that but the thing is as a Puerto Rican. I know that the government is so severely corrupt thatâs why Puerto Rican people in my island is suffering so greatly. I get this information from my family who has lived there, but what do people see on the outside they just see oh, Puerto Rico has been conquered so many times by Spain in the United States and blah blah blah and so they have a romanticized idea of what Puerto Rico is supposed to be what type of Ireland it is and how bad it is over there because of being conquered but the reality is they could do better if they had a better government if the people overturned the government and voted in better people. Honestly, Puerto Rico becoming a state would actually be the biggest benefit to it and thatâs what they voted on but the United States voted against statehood so itâs a constant issue. Thereâs not one plant place on this planet. thatâs perfect. But Iâm 32 years old and it took a while for me to learn these things and thatâs including the one place that Iâve always wanted to live and thatâs Japan. I always thought Japan amazing and then for many years Iâve learned more and more as the Internet became fast because I honestly wanted to move to Japan since I was 10 but there was no Google back then there was none of that so I didnât Know anything about Japan, other than anime other little random things. Sorry about the really long wall of text, but yeah, this is what people think of they think of the romanticize version of the place that theyâre thinking about and they donât really open their heart where their eyes or even do any research into the other things that are the cons of that country country. Itâs always the pros.
True. I'll never set foot on Korea. Glad I didn't live there.
in summer 2017, I went to the club in this same area not realizing who ran it and why it was so popular. I only got in because I went to a language exchange and the guy that ran it was friends with someone who knew someone who knew someone who could get us in. Immediately after going in, I realized I was the only non-Korean in the entire place and it was packed as it was after midnight. I was handed a drink from the bartender and IMMEDIATELY knew something was wrong after the first few sips. Might fight or flight kicked in and I abandoned everyone at the club and met with some friends at EonJu station. Thank god my friends took care of me because the second I got to them, I fell unconscious and they were unable to wake me up. They kept me safe and when I woke up the next day, I was perfectly fine--no hangover, nothing. I had no idea what had happened to me, but every single day I am thankful that I got the hell out of there and never looked back. Only a few months later did the burning sun controversy begin.
Damn I'm glad you're okay. This case is insane
I'm so glad you're okay... That's so traumatizing. Stay safe and well â€
My heart goes out to you, you were wise to listen to your Intuition. Always trust your gut.
wow, i'm so sorry that happened! glad you're safe
that is mad scary, i am SO glad you got out safely and that you had good friends looking out for you! so so glad you are okay apart from the obvious trauma and awful thing happening to you. it must have been a huge shock back then reading the news a few months later. imagine what could have happened to you as well. so scary. take good care of yourself dear
He is not the Korean great gatsby, heâs literally the Korean Epstein how is this man out of prison it makes me sick
The scariest thing is that we don't even can't trust authorities. Where should we ask for help then?
Yeah, unless ur rich, rich enough to shut the authorities mouth.
Thats how powerful money is.
This is why women and men must follow the real teachings of Prophets jesus not the fake teachings of paul and church. Prophet jesus said take my cross and follow me(his teachings) . Prophet jesus also said he did not come to deny any law in torah but to complete it and said anyone who deny even a little law in old tastement will get the lowest place in kingdom(hell). Prophet jesus said anyone who look at woman with their lustful eyes, mean they commit adultery sin in their heart. Today many christian follow what paul and church teaches and not follow the real teachings of prophet jesus in old tastement because they not read their bible properly. Now paul and church also allow gamble, adultery, eat pork, drink alcohol, lgbt sin etc All of these are not what prophet jesus teaches in past. If today women follow Mary the mother of prophet jesus modesty in clothing, never go to bad place like night club or meet man for sex etc, woman will never fall in any wolf capitalist trap or be their sex slaves.
It has only one solution UNITY BETWEEN ALL AGES OF WOMEN and I am so sad to say this but I have realized that if women want to do something they can't do it alone they need supporters and men can't be their supporters for all they see women as is BEEF STEAK and I for one listened to this man who is a famous scholar and he is known to be supportive of women and he raises awareness about how men truly think of women, he said this beef steak quote unquote it s time we set our differences aside wherever we go we need to be supporters of each ther women support women. Think about it yourselves why do men don't get deserving punishment because they all have unity between them they all work at high positions and keep supporting each other in these kinda "missions".
@@rameenshakil1598 This is why women and men must follow the real teachings of Prophets jesus not the fake teachings of paul and church. Prophet jesus said take my cross and follow me(his teachings) . Prophet jesus also said he did not come to deny any law in torah but to complete it and said anyone who deny even a little law in old tastement will get the lowest place in kingdom(hell). Prophet jesus said anyone who look at woman with their lustful eyes, mean they commit adultery sin in their heart. Today many christian follow what paul and church teaches and not follow the real teachings of prophet jesus in old tastement because they not read their bible properly. Now paul and church also allow gamble, adultery, eat pork, drink alcohol, lgbt sin etc All of these are not what prophet jesus teaches in past. If today women follow Mary the mother of prophet jesus modesty in clothing, never go to bad place like night club or meet man for sex etc, woman will never fall in any wolf capitalist trap or be their sex slaves.
I cannot fathom that these mfs are still able to live freely. 1.5 years in prison? Really?? HE RUINED SO MANY WOMENâS LIVES and thatâs all he gets?
Frfrfr they definitely deserve like maybe 15 to 20 years in jail.
@@hrts4mitskii_death sentence tbhâŠ
so who is it that person?
@@GelannieI think theyâre talking about sunglee the big band member who was one of the owners of the club
@@miragaming5312 oh i see ty for telling.. good morning here in philippines.
Its literally disgusting that violence against women is still not considered a crime worthy of very long sentences. So upsetting, especially as a woman.
Better thank God for the west if your here
It is in America. Violence, whether physical or sexual, is simply not tolerated against women, period. And if you do anything to make a woman even slightly uncomfortable, it can be enough to ruin your career and life.
@@cardinalrule6810 as if. predators are everywhere and men are never truly held accountable.
@@FortniteDad12Youâre joking, right?
â ââ ââ ââ ââ ââ ââ ââ ââ ââ @@cardinalrule6810Objectively untrue on every level. Police wonât even put rapes on file, those they do will sit in a back log for the next decade as they do nothing with them or just throw them out.
Then thereâs the actual prison time rapists get.
Wanna know the average time people serve for molesting a child? 6 years, and they probably wonât even serve half that if they get out on âgood behaviorâ
We are talking about a country that is only good at violence. 40% of police officers have admitted to beating their spouse in this country.
Stop idealizing America as if itâs some utopia, you only make things so much worst for all of us.
its CRAZY that you get less jail time when you sell humans then when you smoke weed, its disgusting.
Poor Top đą
These men should never leave prison. Those aren't people, these are monsters!
Exactly they should not be called men
HyunA is so disgusting for dating someone involved in this sick situation cos thereâs NO way she didnât know about this
She absolutely knew because one of her friends was trying to take down the burning sun
Everyone knows. Itâs like the biggest scandal in the industry ever. Like there is no discussion needed. Itâs like genes knowledge to know about over there.
@@eloise3717what friend and who was she dating ??
â@@Luiyjtst Goo Hara i believe. She is no more and she used to date this guy who was involved in watching these videos and not reporting them as he "didn't see the big deal". Hara tried her best to expose him during this scandal as she believed he was in the wrong. Now Hyuna is dating that dude
â@shreya-xj8jz that is so sad
âIf youâre not the one paying, youâre the product.â Stephanie couldnât have been more spot onâŠ
YepâŠitâs insane
it's a very well-known quote
Yup.. She is the product of spreading misinfo
Is it jyp entertainment jy park
@@sangisailo2514 average k pop fan moment
I am convinced to never drink at a nightclub or even visit one. Not taking the risk.
For real
Smart decisiĂłn!
girl same
I got spiked when i was 18, hid in the bathroom when i realized i was drugged
This is why women and men must follow the real teachings of Prophets jesus not the fake teachings of paul and church. Prophet jesus said take my cross and follow me(his teachings) . Prophet jesus also said he did not come to deny any law in torah but to complete it and said anyone who deny even a little law in old tastement will get the lowest place in kingdom(hell). Prophet jesus said anyone who look at woman with their lustful eyes, mean they commit adultery sin in their heart. Today many christian follow what paul and church teaches and not follow the real teachings of prophet jesus in old tastement because they not read their bible properly. Now paul and church also allow gamble, adultery, eat pork, drink alcohol, lgbt sin etc All of these are not what prophet jesus teaches in past. If today women follow Mary the mother of prophet jesus modesty in clothing, never go to bad place like night club or meet man for sex etc, woman will never fall in any wolf capitalist trap or be their sex slaves.
May we NEVER EVER shut up about cases like these!
How in the hell do people STILL support these monsters OR blame the victims?????? Like...they HAVE to either be toddlers, or lack the ability to empathize or critically think at all.
The outrageous things I read on twt đ seunghoe fans defend him nonstop itâs obnoxious I feel like throwing hands every time I have to read a tweet defending that pos
@@Angie-zw8mo idk if youâre talking about the same post that i saw. But them defending the rapist has the same energy as writing letters to serial killers
I still see Seungri be defended by his fans, the things that were said after the burning sun thing came to light are insane. Iâm not surprised because this is a result of the parasocial relationship idols and fans have, the fans truly believe that their favs can do no harm. These days people defend serial killers, people accused of r@pe, murderers, the list goes on.
@@Angie-zw8mooh my god same. After I watched this video the first time I looked some stuff up on twitter and some of those fans are so far removed from reality. âHe didnât get charged with any sex crimes!!!â Okay buddy but he was proven to be involved in a sex trafficking ring. He ABSOLUTELY SAâd women. At the very least he supports and encourages SA, drugging women to SA them, human trafficking, SO many awful things.
it actually blows my mind how people are able to support this sick people.
What is disturbing to me is knowing that there are people CURRENTLY in the Kpop industry who knew about this or were possibly involved.
Yeah same I always wondered since 2016
YESSSS, whenever I think about that, it just leaves a pit in my stomach.
The Nth room had 200k+ South Korean men in it including police, other authorities, etc. None of them are caught, except for the "ring leader" which turned out to be some crippled 20-y/o college kid. Which I think is sus. I guess absolutely 0 has been caught, not even the REAL ring leader.
@@imthecoolest50iâve been thinking this too!! poor kid was most likely a placeholder to hide the true ring leader.
people in the industry and a lot of rich people from abroad. basically you can never trust a rich and well connected man in a patriarchal society
Update!!
JJY has been free since March and is planning on making a comeback in the music industry as a producer. Please look out for him and do not support his music. He cannot change his license number in KMCA.
First time gonna leave bunch of hate comments on this MF
Interesting how one of them cried for his Mom when Paparazzi approached him..Imagine how many woman cried for the Moms after being SA.đą
His mom is the reason such a vile monster was mad. If parents didn't coddle this psycho kids and actually gave them a proper upbringing who knows we might actually see less crimes.
The footage of the women getting dragged out by her hair & no one reacting is shocking. It's a sad reflection of the fact that our society as a whole is turning a blind eye to crimes against women.
Things are generally always getting better and I feel we are always pulled towards an end point where all anybody wants, is the best for everybody else. Try to have faith in the goodness of people, even if so many do make it hard
I feel like it proabably happened all the time at that club and they knew about it ): Seungri was a shareholder but if I saw that at a club I'd quit, that's too messed up.
The woman released a statement herself clarifying that she was drunk. You should read her letter that she posted apologizing to the club. I don't know how this channel missed that crucial information.
@@amirakurosakistill doesnât make it okay.
@@amirakurosakiand why is SHE apologizing?? She was the one getting dragged. She prob got slut shamed by extreme fans to be quiet.
Interesting how the Korean government is angry and demands a formal apology for the comfort women, but they are still allowing their legal system and police to treat their own female citizens with such disrespect. They need to address this behavior if they want respect from the rest of the world.
That's because they're not actually angry themselves. They're just using the anger of the korean people to win more elections and gain popularity
this, the hypcrisy is astounding
I always wanted to talk about this,but i always felt afraid to be attacked by koreaboos and to seem xenophobic
Seeing how the Japanese annexation of Korea has affected generations of Koreans, my grandmother was a comfort woman herself, my oldest aunt is half Japanese, it is a bigger deal than this. I donât think itâs fair to compare the two. Especially since families were torn apart. America has Jeffrey Epstein, which is basically swept under the rug, as it involves international dignitaries including the British monarchy. Maybe you should rethink the ârespect from the rest of the worldâ comment.
â@@user-bm9ov8zn3s Probably why thos same corrupt government officials wishis thy were part tha DPRK then the corruption/crimes wouldn't be know/investigated in contry
Korea has been overhyped and romanticized excessively by K dramas and K-pop idols that we fail to see the darker side of how its society treat half of its citizens and how xenophobic they can be towards other asians, specifically those coming from SEA. It's totally gross.
So, after hearing this story I'm not surprised about the 4B movement in SK. I feel for these women, they are soooo fed up by these men.
Mysogyny and the sexual exploitation of women is so disgusting and a never ending issue in this cruel world.
if all the girls just stay home and not go out then the issue will be solved so easily. but girls horny af tho cant help themselves. so then issue continues
and yet some men will figure a way to make it seem like its a thing blown out of proportion
â@@justaponyyyyall acting like it just happens to woman it happens mostly to children
â@@tonyghee0124 it doesn't just happen to women, it happens MOSTLY to women. only bringing up another demographic when the conversation is about women is so weird. children experiencing sexual abuse is a large problem as well, but don't use it to diminish the voices of victims who happen to be women. you can help and support women AND children.
â@@tonyghee0124did you watch the video or
You know what is the scariest thing? Just after watching this I searched few of these Kpop idols names on the youtube and read comments. Almost all the comments were like âfighting Oppa! We are waiting for your comebackâ , âbe strong you were the best voice in the Kpopâ canât believe how people forget things like nothing. Maybe things would be changed if the victims were their family members. Iâm so ashamed of this clueless people who protect criminals đą
they aren't clueless, they just don't care about victims
Unfortunately the fans understand everything. They love them because of their visuals. Looks are everything for these crazy f***ked up fans.
@@TaylorLeeKnow , indeed
One of the comments went along the lines of, "I'm so glad you're finally back after going through all that unnecessary pain". It had over 1k likes too.
idk if this is related but notice how most of those guys are 1st gen kpop idols. At that time, kpop isn't what it is today and most of their fans were asian. A lot of those fans were teenage, asian kids who were chronically online because that was the only thing that was distracting them from toxic asian culture's pressure. That and mental illness wasn't exactly talked about. So coming to terms that their "oppa" is devil's incarnate would be equivelant to having to accept your childhood is a lie. Not an excuse, just an observation.
Honestly, as an ex-kpop fans seeings fans going crazy and âtrustingâ idols scares me. This kind of cases makes me think twice about people.
I gave up gradually on the whole following celebrities in general because it came as hard facts that the personalities they show online are curated to make themselves look good, no one actually knows how good they are or know who they are in person. Leaving k pop had shown me that those are real life people, they are very real people that can do anything at anytime, I shouldn't have to dedicate my time to someone who doesn't know me, doesn't care, I have a future and I will turn to my own means of living up to that.
Iâd never think some couldnât but if bts or stray kids did this now I would be so hurt for reall.
â@@lmooney82 bro đđ¶
I'm here again to congratulate Steph on her coverage of this case after seeing the BBC one today..... I'm still in shock
People are so willing to give this dude so much grace and a second chance meanwhile female victims lose their whole career and are ostracized from Korea
Itâs crazy. I just went and watched a music video by some of these âVIPsâ and everyone in the comments are showering them in adoration⊠when they are guilty of such heinous crimes.
He doesn't have a career in korea
@@likhwezititusI think he still has a management team though?
In taxi driver wasn't there an ep similar to this case
This is very popular in pop culture. People will forgive a man for everything and cancel a woman for anything.
I remember following this "scandal" closely at the time and the fact that those men still have fandoms that defends them and calls them innocent infuriates and disgusts me đ€ą
Exactly why I despise Kpop fans.
one of these fans is here. say hi to _a369 when they comment on this thread ! đ
But it's because we have evidence? It has nothing to do with "defending him" bc he's our "oppa". This woman has not posted a single victim statement or a witness statement and y'all are just blindly believing her and calling yourselves some great justice warriors when in the same breath this person tried to make out a sexual assaulter a hero.
Evidence is key. Have you not seen Amber heard?
@@nellieevans1540 Amen, KPOP fans are THE most DELULU fan base. Their idols could do no wrong, they will defend them to the very end. Disgusting!
As a girl... I am always scared of what could possibly happen to me at any moment...
I get you
All girls have that fear
But don't worry
Just live your life carefully, and nothing will happenâ€
@@silvia1416xx you too..stay safe dear
@@cypheryutaaa6598 Dont develope an anxiety disorder because of a few freaks and dont spend to much time on the internet watching true crime plz. I dont know where you live but as a woman, I dont live in fear in my country. Most men are sane and very protective. I was never interested in clubbing or meeting many strangers at the same time though. Be free but careful.
This girl is awesome. She got more balls than so many journalists.
She does these investigations after the fact, of course, and gives the public a view into some of the most bizarre controversies. So her own safety shouldnt be of concern.
I love her videos. Been watching them daily while I clean house. Scary stuff.
Can we just normalize holding rich and influential people of all genders accountable for their crimes? Goodness gracious, itâs wild to me stuff like this still happens.
This is like Squid Game. Super rich people using poorer people like toys for amusement.
That would be a fantasy⊠given how much power money holds, people will buy anyone get anyone disposed.. some people who donât hold criminals accountable are either greedy or just saving themselves⊠itâs so sad and hopeless.. I wish we could change itâŠ
â@@GizmoMaltesethis is like dubai and ig influencers being forced to do nasty stuff on yachts for rich people s amusment
@@jennyj1009 But Squid Game made an interesting point. The players were given the option to go home and escape the horror but they chose to stay for the money. In the same way, a lot of these women choose to stay and even come back for the money. We can't just ignore that reality.
@@georgiana1147 please do not get things twisted. Those "IG models" willingly do nasty things for money. They signed NDA contracts before going there. It is entirely consensual.
Shout out to Kim for standing up to the club and the cops.
You do know he was proven guilty and was horrible person also too
â@@cara8072 what was he guilty of?? I'm confused
@@444.hidayaa SA
@@cara8072 please elaborate further.
@@cara8072wait too what?
BBC just recently made a documentary about this case. Which is good, we should never let this case die down. The victims deserved proper justice, Hara who was a great help with the case deserved more than an apology from knetz who harrassed her causing her to take her own life, Seungri's group should not be walking free and gets to live their lives while the victims suffer. Those who are still defending the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves.
And now seungri was spotted in Malaysia celebrating and singing on stage for one of the tan Sri (influential) birthday party. There was video and he looked like he was enjoying so degrading behavior of people who still supported and engaged with this type of monster devil
He even went back to his ways, he cheated on his girlfriend with another women right after release...
So let me get this straight⊠if one were to leave Korea for vacay and smoke weed they can get up to 5 years jail time⊠but if you rpe and traffic women you get less time đ€Šđœââïž thatâs so wildly not right
Itâs crazy how drugs arenât that big of deal when a woman is being assaultedâŠ.
It probably has to do with Korean history. The Japanese occupied Korea for quite awhile. And while they were there they treated everyone horribly, especially women (lotta sexual abuse) and so that sort of thing is treated like it's not a big deal.
â@Priestessoffun "Comfort women" are actually a huge deal there.
Misogyny is everywhere and it doesn't require an explanation, it requires speaking up and doing what you can to treat others well.
South Korea in a nutshell
@@Witchmeenot you trying to blame it on Japan đ”đ”đ” this is literally just misogyny at its worse. Thereâs no larger explanation for it.
When I went to SK by myself as a single woman, I was provided an information pamphlet on safety. It clearly said that SK men believe if you are unconscious you consent. Like, if you arenât awake to experience it, it canât possibly hurt you. It said to never accept a drink from a stranger and to keep ur hand over the top of your drink. It said to check toilets and changerooms for cameras. SK had this reputation already internationally and Iâm not surprised by this at all.
Do you still live there? And do you think other foriegn girls should live there?
@@crtzy9626 well i dont think foriengers (girls obv) should live there... being a k-fan korea is my dreamplace nd ill def fulfil it by visiting there but im NEVER gonna live there... coz my safety is more important
who gave you a pamplet? liar
Wtf?!!
@@crtzy9626living here is not that bad just be careful if you live a normal life with no too much party or dating site then you are good am an English teacher here altogether itâs not bad as people made it to be
Itâs one of the ugliest scandals in South Korea. Itâs sickening to see all of them get away while committing such a horrific crimes!
This and the nth room made me sick to my stomach of Korean men
I want to say Kim is a hero here. He saw the woman as his his sister, mother, female friend. Letâs give him support in any form .
and in the end his name got dragged in the mud.
It's so sad to think that it only took one man's confession to validate what women victims were reporting to the police.
what I was thinking actually. but it's more complex than that cause they didn't want to listen to him either, he was just more confident to push through, well basically cause he's privileged being a man. people don't victim blame men somehow. anyway it was very courageous of him to go through this for the sake of justice
Cmon he was totally beat up!! Stop making it seem like he had some "privilege" Jesus christ! He was just more determined to get his story out there!
â@neueone it wasn't about him having ANY privilege but he shouted louder and used the internet to spread the story. Also if the women victims hadn't spoken out his case would ultimately have been ignored as well.
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 a woman have spoken out and the evidence was used to just victim blame her , publicly. Its not about privilege but the stigma about women that discouraged other women victims to come out as well. There's no denying the man got beat up, but because he spoke up, suddenly the case became credible enough for the case to be investigated.
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 so you're saying what women went through was not that bad comparing to his case? :)
the reveal of what "water" meant in the club employee group chats, literally made my jaw drop. i thought it was going to be code for the drugs they were using on the victims. referring to the actual women as water was something so dark and so sinister-- i pray for the survivors of this disgusting, evil crime
Yeah same. I was shocked when she said: woman
Ik! I thought they were drugging the water and thatâs what it was, but itâs so much worse!
@@Honeyin2013 yeah naive me thought the same, it was the water they were drugging not the women that they were referring to.
I know, me too, I definitely thought that's where ir was headed. Not women!!
RIGHT?! ME TOO! I was so confused đ§
Hello Stephanie. I just wonder if you heard the rumors that Seungri is opening new club in Cambodia. And now all of the perpetrators are walking out freely as well. I live in South Korea and this disgusts me⊠this need to keep being talked about. Thanks for taking this topic on
I have heard a lot of disgusting, horrible things in my 65 years but my mouth just hung open the entire time I watched this. The level of corruption was mind blowing. These disgusting excuses of men should still be rotting in jail. I just canât get over this.
My cousin sister on her trip to South Korea back in the days went to Burning Sun because the club was apparently the "hottest" thing that time. She was even approached by some "VIP" and she was talking but just when the "VIP " was about to take her to the VIP area she got a phonecall because her friend got into an accident so she left immediately. She was saved by God's grace but i cannot imagine what would have happened if she stayed there
I would never go anywhere with a stranger EVER
Oh my goodness! I'm so glad she made it out!
Divine intervention.
Nice story, calling bullshit tho
@@Todd_Kobell So do all stories told by any stranger. Is that what you're trying to say? LMAO!
Crimes against women are constantly swept under the rug. Dude was running a trafficking business and only spent a year in prison, whereas those women will be traumatized for the rest of their lives. There needs to be harsher punishments for this caliber of crime.
Itâs Korea they definitely need better government
Korea isnât always kind towards women
Seriously. In other countries they would have gotten life sentence or minimum 10-15 years behind bars.
wish seungri and those other vip's were in China, thy would have rotten in the prisons for the rest of their lives, like Kris woo he's sentenced for 13years long and is completely banned
Especially for FEMALE OFFENDERS!
Their fans will look straight into your eyes and still claim that they are innocent
Seungri still has fans who support him. Just google his name on youtube and vids featuring him will pop and there's comments from his fans as recent as this week saying that they miss him, that hes innocent and they want him to come back etc. Theyre really delulu
That's actually crazy. I used to be such a BigBang fan and I feel absolutely disgusted by Seungri.
Youâll see them here in this video too. Theyâll attack you and the owner of the videos for talking bad about their idol. Crazyđđđ
The fact that they're fans who still support and celebrate this man is crazy and concerning
There are... I see so many delulu fans still supporting this trash and thinking it's a lie.
They have the same morality as him
They're pathetic, I saw them chanting "he is only co-owner, he didn't know what was going on!" đđ€ą
One fan said that he is also a victim, getting around with the wrong folks,etc.
But I don't think so..he is not the victim. He is the perpretator
It's disgusting and cult-like.
the fact that HyunA is now dating Yong Junhyung is sickening
RIGHTTT i saw her post and i was literally shocked cus sheâs known for standing by womenâs rights and regretting her debut bc she was rlly sexualized at a young age but now sheâs dating a man that did so much more than just sexualizing women
Fr... It looks like all the good men in the world vanished that She chose to date him đż
@@sleepizeshe never âstood byâ womenâs rights
Right.. ruined Dawn's career and shit and then got with this guy OF ALL PEOPLE.. Like everyone assumes they broke up because Hyuna was already messing around with this guy, I feel so bad for Dawn like he stuck it out and gave up everything for love and she's just scum as far as I'm concerned.
Can you tell me why he isn't in jail ??
I found this after watching the BBC content. I think this one is more thorough and details
I mean the BBC included the reporters side , but bbc unfortunately forgot one of the most important part which is the man who exposed The BSun.
hearing this entire case all spelled out, like with a full chronological timeline and explanation, makes me realize once again just how insane this entire thing was. and also how insanely light the punishments all were.i genuinely hope all of the survivors are doing well right now.
As a victim and survivor of SA and abuse, it is a travesty that Seungri and the others are out and free. He and others like him should be in prison for life unable to hurt women and girls anymore.
unfortunately south korea favors their men and doesn't protect their women.
It's even more sad the way Seungri actually has some of his fans who think he was totally innocent and falsely accused!đą
Absolutely!
#metoo
you're a liar it doesn't happen to women or girls only to men and boys
Props for the guy who tried to stand up for the girl in the club and tried to help her.
The guy was charged with SA with 3 different women and gotten a probation only đ
that guy was charge with SA . he already has a beef with the owner. I dont like seungri but that kim guy is caught on cctv harassing woman
you mean the other disgruntled VIP customer?!đ
â @@yuuiharui1478 wasnât the guy framed BY the club and even Stephanie implied that the so-called women who reported him, all worked for the club as drug runners and only reported right after he exposed themâŠ? Then it was proved with cctv that the clubâs claims were kinda false as they said that he was the perpetrator during the assault but wasnâtâŠ?đ
Iâm quite confused cuz are we talking bout the same person? đ
Ummm he was trying to assault women in the club and he wasnât aware that he was on cctv - there was actual footage showing him trying to force himself on a woman which is why he went into hiding after claiming that the club bouncers assaulted him for no reason!!!!
The fact that the man from Thailand came up w such an elaborated plan to save his own ass and now the majority of thai ppl r on his side and he never suffered any consequences sucks.
Everyone should see the BBC documentary. As horrible as it was, the ending is almost the most disturbing. The man owning a club in Gangnam saying NOTHING has changed. Similar clubs are still there, GHB is still being fed to women.... I'm just waiting for the next idols to get exposed at this point.
The footage of the woman being pulled by her hair while the club employees do nothing and pretend on their laptops is SO DISGUSTING AND SCARY
And the fact that they beat up the person who tried to stop them afterwards by BREAKING HIS RIBS and then the cops beat him up also....I can imagine why Korean citizens may not feel very safe.
So wait... they were also involved in INTERNATIONAL SEX TRAFFICKING ACROSS INTERNATIONAL BORDERS MEETING UP WITH SEX TRAFFICKERS FROM EUROPE? Why wasn't INTERPOL involved?! This is bigger than just the Korean justice system. The international community failed these victims as well
Because politics is involved in this . Everyone is a part of this
@@ishanegi8391whenever sex and money is involved⊠no justice will ever ever be served. Maybe in 500 years but not now unfortunately⊠the world is fucked
Something needs to change. Ppl wonder why I never speak to men unless Iâm forced to (like friends or authority figures) and this is literally why I canât barely trust anyone when the world is like THIS
With rhis level of operation and taping of acts involved, I don't believe that it's possible that neither high level mafia gang nor countries intelligence services are involved.
The earnings from trafficking are a loose change, compared to the amount of money and power one can get by using those videos.
Because men rule the world. The only way this would stop is if men didnât have any positions of power
Wow, I can't believe he who should not be named is already out! WOW! He shouldn't allowed to roam freely! Anyone involved should be investigated (VIPS, Staff, customers, the police that 'swept it under the rug', the dealer who provided the GHB). THIS IS SO SAD, those poor survivors of this terrible situation. đđI hope the delulu fans don't support any of the monsters that got out and that are roaming free. I hope all the survivors/victims involved can overcome that trauma and have a good support system to help them move on/continue living.
The Burning Sun documentary just came out but didn't mention Lee Jonghyun from CNBlue which was a minor disappointment.
I think they wanted to stick with people who were formally charged. They even blurred his face in group photos.
@@montana10yahoo youâre right. I hate the fact that dude got the least heat when the news about Burning broke out, and even now heâs not being punished like he should be.
To endure the trauma of the actual SA only to be laughed at by police, dragged by the masses, and be made to feel insane the entire time, is just deplorable. Such an insidious experience.
@@get2myra A stands for Assault, the rest you can guess.
I think the police is worse for not doing their job. Rich or poor, anyone would try to bribe the police to get away. But it's the police and the government that should act no matter what. But they are all so corrupt everywhere
And it sounds like some of those poor people were victimized multiple times by multiple people
This is how you know the world is run by men
I can confirm it to be a poisonous experience
None of these people got enough jail time (Seung Lee especially). The fact that JJY's sentence got reduced by a year because he submitted documents saying how 'sorry' he was is laughable. The justice system is a joke and it's unacceptable
â@@pruitv3he Is not a victim. He's a rapist and should be in jail
ââ@@monedameowactually a victim came forth and admitted she was subjected too nearly 20 hrs off interagation by the police about him dispite her saying he had nothing to do with it she was one off four people subjugated too this she tried too tell them who did hurt her and they wernt interested in the truth...Oh and he was literally not in Sth Korea at the time he was on the Made tour with Big Bang literally the whole road crew said he was eith the group at the time so unless he can teleport idk what too say it was a cover up. Media was encouraged too spread shit and like with Johnny Depp rsn their mouths on bu....it
@@anngleeson4736 I was a VIP but I know about corruption and how the world works, police was involved so all is a coverup. My love for the groups does not cloud my brain.
â@@anngleeson4736Johnny Depp is also an abuser. That was not the comparison you thought it was. And mind this was HIS CLUB and HIS FRIENDS, to say he did not have at least an inkling of what was going on inside is laughable. And I truly hope you don't experience the shit these women have been through, because victim blaming and painting the guy who had knowledge of a sex trafficking ring in *his club* is not it
@@monedameow He wasn't convicted of rape though. (not making excuses for his other behaviour and i still think he should be in jail don't get me wrong).
watching this again after seeing the BBC documentary
Same. I just finished watched it last night. I feel bad for the victims, the female journalists who faced relentless bullying and Goo Hara who helped bring light to the situation RIP Hara.
Brothel owner, abuser, sexual assault, rapist, sex traffickers, and they only get 1,5 years in jail?!
This gave me chills... how helpless and small you must feel if you are a victim and know not even the police can help you..
The worst part is they definitely can help you, but choose not to
â@@squaressznah, the worst part is the police is also part of the criminal, and you paying tax for their salary
Yep, it's horrific- Korea seriously needs a royal commission into it's corrupt law system. In Australia we've had so many on the corruption that has infiltrated police forces nationally over many decades. When powerful agencies are left unchecked and answer to no-one that's a breeding ground.
For example, even when the crimes can no longer be denied like in this case, the charges against the perperators are played down to a "prostitution"(like the victims were willing participants and in it for their own incentive) instead of sex trafficing, which is what it clearly was.
Yeah like those girls who are dating that literal criminal and then got mad he was cheating on them and took them both to the same place in Bali like đ you think this guy has any respect or love for ANY woman?! Like I'm the type of person who is completely against cheating. I do not think there is any excuse for it, I do not think it is something small. People end themselves and others over being cheated on all the time. I think it's an extremely serious issue. That being said I do not feel bad for the girls who dated him after he was CONVICTED and served prison time for trafficking and SA and all of these really heinous crimes. Then they're all shocked Pikachu face and hurt he's cheating on them??! Like if you date someone like that it is a literal slap in the face to every single victim. If you are even friends with someone who has been convicted of even one of those crimes he was convicted of, it is a slap in the face. He should be a social pariah. If the government isn't going to keep him locked up in prison then he needs to be put in prison socially. Make him live the rest of his days out completely alone never having any contact with anyone else.
It's not just south korea though very unfortunately. The statistics for police helping victims when it comes to crimes like this almost everywhere are abysmal.
her metaphor about shopping for beef not knowing the grocery store is owned by people intending to sell you to cannibals is honestly terrifying
Hopefully this'll make people think about what they support and choose in life.... Cause every action we took have consequences.
And how vurnables we are that we need to follow "the good sheperd".
God is the only true Savior.
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@@francofiaro3852if your god will only protect those who specifically worship him rather than all those who are innocent, regardless of worship, I want NOTHING to do with him.
â@@francofiaro3852i met people who dont believe in go way better people than "believers"
@@kdmac8110 actually the Gospel is the Good news that Salvation is Free. Christ died on the cross to give His body for anyone. But if let's say i gave you my heart, liver, lungs etc after yours is broken... And you receive new heart, new body but then you wreck it, destroy it, corrupted the new body... It's your choice He already gave lives but ppl destroys them. Its their choice not God. He's given us so many 2nd chances.
â@@kdmac8110actually, God protects His own, even if they don't yet know His voice. He writes His Name on our hearts in the womb. Either you belong to Him or you don't. You have free will to reject Him, as you did with your words above, and when you do reject Him after He wrote His Name on your heart, then you will feel the emptiness of being isolated from Grace. He will allow us to suffer the consequences of our actions, but He will never leave. I am praying that you'll have an encounter with Jesus so radical, that you will be able to see His Name on your heart with your physical eyes.
thank you steph for making this video public again, it baffles me how people like seungri still has fans. stan culture is in shambles.
IÂŽve been roofied before and itÂŽs true, it's like you're a zombie, you are moving and talking but you arenÂŽt really there. My friend and I had gone out for drinks and next thing I know, I am in an apartment with a group of men. I look around and my friend is passed out on the couch while I am sitting on some dudeÂŽs lap ( so out of character for me). I excused myself to the restroom and I just looked weird in the mirror. I knew something wasnÂŽt right because I couldn't remember how we got there and I only had 1-2 drinks, so I stuck my finger down my throat and made myself throw up. But I was still feeling pretty out of it. They kept knocking on the door trying to get me to come out. I finally did and asked to be driven home (or back to my car). They laughed saying I could share the bed with one of them, as I watched one of them carry my friend down the hallway. I threatened to scream, so finally one of them drove me back to my car, but I was too out of it so I just slept there. I woke up to two police men knocking on my window. I explained that I had been drugged but they just laughed not believing me. They called a cab for me and I woke up the next morning naked in my bath tub. I called and called my friend and she texted that she was okay, but I never saw her again. I still think that she was raped that night because she then moved away and I never heard from her again. To this day my family and friends donÂŽt believe me.
This is terrible, I am so sorry that happened to you and your friend.
You telling me someone accused of s3x trafficking and money laundering got 1.5 years and another whoâs accused of assaulting 3 men got 1 year? What a joke
rich people crime is totally different from poor people crime
The Korean justice system is notoriously known for the low punishments for crimes against women/v*olence and a few other things (harsh punishment for drug use, etc). And itâs extremely easy to pay your way out of trouble if you need to. Itâs so sad :â(
i mean, they're rich. i'd be more surprised if they got a heavier sentence
Seungri knows a lot of important people's sh*it. When even the higher ups police officers get involved, means high possibility there will be a lot of politician and rich people involved.
â@@annecathrine8827sexism and misogyny exists strongly everywhere
The video of that girl fighting to get attention as she's being dragged away will haunt me for a long time. I'm a survivor myself, I hope with all my heart and soul that the women and people harmed by that vile organization can find healing, growth and peace in this life, in spite of whay they've survived
Also a survivor. I teared up seeing that, I have also been drugged and coerced into drinking, so many of these cases really hit home. This is a hard watch, idk if i can finish it. â€
I'm a survivor too... In my case, it was a family member over a very long period of time without the use of drugs or alcohol. We should be listened to and believed instead of discredited and victim-shamed.
I'm sorry you all went through all of this. I know I'm just a stranger on the net, but I fully đŻ percent support you guys, and wish you well and to continue to push forward. I truly mean that â„ïžđŻđâ€ïž you ladies are strong.
Dang sorry to hear about that just hope this will stop honestly making me sick but I have one question donât know about this so was the burning sun is like a recent report going on now this is basically sending cattle to a slaughterhouse itâs so freaking disgusting and inhumane honestly hope the club get bankrupt and held in court, I mean I wish the federal court worldwide can help deal with this situation but I know most of them are the same way god idk itâs just insane living in this world now and itâs getting worse by the minute in the hour and through the day.
Yeah, the way the employee looked annoyed that she was grabbing onto things and almost knocked over the computerâŠI canât imagine being such an empty husk of a human.
Thank you, Stephanie...for explaining these criminal activities !! I am in Pennsylvania in the USA. I knew nothing Bout this case...or for most of the cases that you cover for that matter!!
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I also love hearing the books you read and then tell us the story!! You are amazing!!
Omfg... I'm from Norway I thank you so much for telling the story about this!! This shall never be forgotten!!!
insane how JJY claims he wasn't a super active participant in the trafficking and assault when it was HIS PHONE that cracked the fucking case
and hyunA is dating HIM of all people ...
â@anagha337 you're talking about a different person! JJY is Jung joon young, the one with the golden phone. The guy Hyuna is dating is Jun junhyung, he admit to watching a video that was sent from JJY. But he was not in the group chat, just a bystander that saw a video and didn't report it.
@@Jaycelee912 oh no i mixed up the names bc they sound so similar thank you for correctig me!!! its the same in my book tho,he didnt report it which is disgusting
and they leaked that he snitched so he gets worse than all of them(which he (deserves) but when you search his name on google they put sex abuse, illegal filming but for Seungri they put habitual gambling and prostitution âmediationâ just wow!
â@@Jaycelee912 His name is Yong Jun-hyung, not Jun Jun-hyung.
The audacity to call for his MOTHER to defend him from the reporters after drugging, assaulting, and trafficking all those women...
Shows his mom has done this before.
Wow.
Why do you think he was fine with raping women? Because his mother taught him to have no respect for women and publicly defends his actions still by saying "making something so big out of literally nothing". She taught him that rape was "literally nothing".
@@user-yc9vx3nz5zLMAOOO. not you blaming his mom. is he not a grown fucking man?? she has contributed but in the end, heâs responsible for his own actions..
@@user-yc9vx3nz5zShe taught him that consequences for your actions are nothing. No matter what crimes he commits his mother will always be there to clean it up
I remember this happening but never knew all the details. Thank you for this. It's absolutely disgusting what happened
Saw the docu of this on BBC and remembered that I heard this case from you first. Really love your story-telling skills Steph â€
Pov : You are here after seeing Hyuna's dating news with the man who wass directly involved in this 'Burning sun' scandal đ
Yep. It's insane. Sure, he might've not been one of the people in the group chat but he received videos from JJY and watched and commented on it like it was nothing. He knew the videos weren't being shared consensually (JJY told him he got caught sharing the videos but did it anyway) but didn't think it was illegal or wrong. I have no idea what Hyuna is doing with him. I know they're long time friends but still. Associating with him is one thing, getting into a relationship with him now?? I guess she doesn't care.
@@wolfferonihe also dated Goo Hara, who was very close to Hyuna and Goo Hara had gone to the investigators to expose his connection to the burning sun scandal. Hyuna got literally no brains whatsoever itâs astonishing to see her nasty real behavior. Sheâs a two faced back stabber. Goo Hara deserved wayyy better people to surround herself with because itâs honestly sad to see your âfeministâ best friend date your rape ableist ex boyfriend.
@@wolfferoniexactly! and he is goo haraâs ex, and she was hyunas best friend. she avidly stood with the victims, so seeing hyuna with him disgusts me.
Literally y I watched this đ đą
â@mayracastellanos4981 Choi Jong Bum was sentenced to one year in prison by the Supreme Court in October 2020 on charges of assaulting and threatening the late Hara. Prosecutors further indicted Choi Jong Bum for threatening to spread private footage of Hara to the public, for threatening Hara as well as her former agency representatives to apologize, for damaging Hara's property, and also for violating digital sexual harassment/assault laws after police found photos of the late star taken without her consent but he was later found not guilty.
This is insane, i can't believe they are putting women out there to be used and abused. The sick people who are actually paying for this are just as evil as the people who made this a heartless, cruel and malicious business. This makes me so so angry.
Pure rage. Even grudge. The hatred, the detest I have towards such individuals is so huge.
I believe a lot of "businesses" do that, it's just this one blew up and see the result, nothing much happened actually, money rule the world
True this. I was on tiktok a few weeks ago and one of the live streams was about which sex causes more harm to the other men vs women. So of course every woman hating Incel was its women of course they're all the same. They just marry men for money then divorce and take their hard earned money. But the amount of stories similar to this from women. Hell I've been in a similar situation as this the first time I went bar hopping. Within 20mins one friend got roofied and left with his girlfriend (yup it was a guy roofied by another guy) we were told to continue since we were supposed to be helping a guy friend who finally came out to his parents. But the night was even further ruined when a guy refused to take no for an answer and kept trying to buy me a drink. At one point we thought we had lost him so having been my first time out and had gotten an update from the friend who got his stomach pumped. I drank. I vaguely remember being dragged to the parking by that same guy. My friend who is now my husband ran after the guy to ask what he was doing with me. The guy lied and said I was his girlfriend. Cue my entire group running at this guy. No I wasn't roofied but we did find out that a lot of the bartenders working this strip did have a system where they'd either slip a roofied into your drink if someone bought you from a group chat they had going. Which is what happened to our friend or they'd up the alcohol in your drink which is what happened to me. I can drink a person twice my size under the table which alerted my other friend. Come to find out they were mixing ever clear into my drinks. I do remember there were arrests made but freaking scary
it's just sex work at the end of the day. it exists everywhere lol. in countries where it's illegal this is going to happen
@notville_damn you did it again! Whoever programmed this bot is real lazy and bad at coding!
Thank you for sharing this story: itâs really sad. I hope everyone hurt finds healing.
Glad BBC also did a doc on this. South Korean women need global support to lobby for their rights amidst a culturally and legally chauvinist system, The law and male-dominated authorities - including police- enable crimes against women.
Update news: He is now in Cambodia celebrating his birthday. He is taking advantage of people here who donât know about his case. Iâm disgusted with all these now.
good he should enjoy his life
â@@miguelgaona1312youre gross
Who? Seungri? I haven't watched the whole video yet.
@@miguelgaona1312you shouldnât be talking đ
@@miguelgaona1312 So you believe that SA people and ruining their lives is okay and that assaulters should just walk around assaulting others as if it was ok? Interesting.
How could a nation that suffered such an awful historical sex crime have basically nonexistent accountability for rapists??!?!? Also, shouldn't they have gotten harsher punishments for the drugs they were selling? It sucks but if they went from that angle, they could have been locked away longer.
It's also so upsetting that Police aren't being held accountable despite clearly being involved in everything
Yeah it's horrible..the main issue is misogyny they have 0 emapthy
creo que las victimas podrĂan demandar al estado por el mal funcionamiento de la policĂa, no sĂ© como funciona el derecho en corea, pero si en un paĂs de Latam se puede, por quĂ© no se podrĂa en corea?, esto me hace preguntar si algunos paĂses pueden demandar a corea por incumplimiento de tratados internacionales de derechos humanos, en ese caso se le aplica multas al paĂs, con el objetivo de que tome medidas para que no vuelva a ocurrir. (pero no sĂ© si corea firmo los tratados de derechos humanos que estoy pensando, pero sĂ© que la mayorĂa de los paĂses si los firmaron, por lo cual probablemente este violando tratados que firmo)
Itâs horrendous! They are the first to criticize North Korea but they are no better than the worst dictatorship.
Politician are all in it and since they are very patriarchy so not a lot of politician women hence no one vocal about it. Feminist also get hate and harassment a lot so it would be only small amount of people that gonna be vocal about issues of women.
Theyâre too busy seeing âfeminismâ as the villain.
Iâm diggin your presentation. The way your show comes on. Itâs nice and classic, love the music. The way you tell a story and the inflections and life in your talk. Keeps me interested. Even causes me to see for myself what straight from the gut looks like . (Iâm training for doing voice work in future). You must have had some kind of training or school that caused that skill in you . Thanks for a good show. Strong voice presence.I usually donât like to see the narrator . Then thereâs some that you see, but adding to the enjoyment of the story. Well, no enjoyment of the ppl who met their demise. RIP to them all
The Burning Sun case gave me chills down to my bones. The faces of those perpetrators really are devils hiding behind angel's clothes.
Hi, Stephanie.
I'm from Kazakhstan and recently a horrible event happened in our capital Astana, where ex economy MINISTER mur*ered his wife IN A RESTAURANT owned by his mother, he left her dy*ng in a vip cabin and ate lunch next door with his brother, while planning on how to get rid of a body. She was only 31, so beautiful, kindhearted woman. The whole nation is shocked these days, we want justice, and we want this case to be known by everybody around the world, so he can't slide it off. Hundreds of women are being beaten to d*ath and government doing nothing about it, they even decriminalized domestic violence.
Please, make a video about it, it would help millions of women in Kazakhstan. Thank you so much for spreading information about such important things.
Yes, please do a video on this case Stephanie! I've looked online and there isn't much info available unfortunately, except to say his wife Saltanat Nukenova died at a restaurant in Astana and Kuandyk Bishimbayev was arrested.
Femicide is a real issue worldwide but especially in Kazakhstan sadly.
@NotVille_why not
wtfđ i hope its not true
Oh God đ
I don't make videos, but I care. Is there anything I can do?
That's awful
To make fun of comfort women as Koreans is beyond shocking. Iâm not Korean but Iâm shook by the level of disrespect they have for women. Thatâs how deep their disrespect goes. Like Stephanie said, they donât see us as human. We are just objects to be used until we have no use for them. I canât believe anyone would go anywhere with Seungri after hearing this
Hurt people hurt people. Canât make this shit up.
Lol. I cant believe S.K. let these men go but they ate Bella Porche for having a tattoo that resembled a rising sun, to the point where some S.koreans ripped our Philippine flag. How does that even math?
@@cannonfodder9873indeed, their priorities are always off the wall. They rather obsess over everything Japan instead of their degenerate system thatâs making all of them poor, stressed, in debt and unlive. SMH
Its also very hard to making money in korea as a women , so those pretty lazy girls definitely only want money from him n using him too , thats how toxic relationship can be with fuck rich boy
literally disgusting. I encourage everyone to watch movies like "I can Speak" or "Snowy Road" that explore the suffering of these women, their fight is unbelievable.
Thank you for covering this story đ
The amount of âfansâ defending the criminals actions is INSANE. How lonely and stupid are you to be obsessed with someone who doesnât even know you & defend them mindlessly? People got hurt by them and all they care about is their so called idols
Theyâre so delusional! They think theyâre going to marry them. Yet that âidolâ wonât bat an eye to them. I get tweens/teens having crushes but theyâre all mostly fully grown adults which is even more disgusting.
kpop idols get cancelled for reading feminist books, dating, watching anime, joking with their friends, looking bitchy, eating strawberries, eating pizza, clubbing (innocently) etcâŠ
but this guy still have people defending him, putting up hashtags that he is innocent when he is not.. some, not all of bigbang fans a.k.a the VIPS (the irony of the name) have been trending tags that seungri is innocent more than once
who was cancelt for reading feminist books?
â@@edenmitchelle1169irene from red velvet
@@binks69 they tried to cancel her
Eating strawberries?!?
@@gskyle4822 yes an idol was eating strawberries with both hands, and people called her a pick me
I always feel like it's horrifying being a woman in Korea. Every time I think I am wrong I am proven right.
It's scary how the government is so nonchalant but then again nowhere is ever fully safe. Every country has a dark side.
I lived there for a bit and their gender roles are ridiculously rigid. Eating disorders galore, surgeries, preferences, itâs a thin line for them to walk to be considered even decent much less exceptional as women in society. Sex education there is also abysmal. Revenge porn is rampant in the schools. And it is trueâŠpredators get barely any punishment there. East Asia is a great place for a predator.
I know little about this, but years ago I read on 4chan about a video series that were sold in Japan, all women hired to simply do swimsuit and glamour modeling, not even nude, when they're suddenly confronted by a literal line of men who are going to assault them. I can't even get into the more disturbing details if I wish for this comment to post.
These videos were marketed as exactly what they were, but no action was taken. It took TWO of the victims dying of injuries from the ordeal for ANYTHING to be done.
Comments in the post explained that in Japan, there is a popular notion that if any woman or girl goes anywhere with a man, she has consented to absolutely anything he might decide to do. A notion held by people generally, and police, and the courts...
Absolutely insane and just disgraceful
â@@buttlord4204what was the case called?
@@kokohale there was a name of the video series, but I've long forgotten it. Disturbingly, this was being discussed in the /t/ torrents board, where people were sharing the videos. No, I didn't download them.
To be honest Iâve never been there but so many things i see about about society discrepancies there when it comes to socioeconomic, or ethnic differences and gender are downright terrifying
This unbelievable!!! Thanks for this documentary excellent very well put together đ
Goo Hara she was so brave to come up like I canât believe sheâs no longer alive and men like seungri walk freely
Surprised that she didnât bring up the police officer who was found dead in a reservoir 1:37:22 while he was investigating the burning sun scandal and found out that people in his police district were involved ⊠he was driving to another police district to come forward with his evidence and never made it . He even received a phone call by an unknown person telling him to stop investigating. Itâs craziness.
*edit- Iâd feel bad if I didnât mention his name- Lee Yong Jun r.i.p detective .
OH MY GOD!!! I remember reading about this and it was one of the most important and horrifying things that's completely overlooked when covering this case. Also burning sun and nth room were separate scandals but they both happened around the same time and there was definitely some involvement overlapping. there was also a lot of other notable people involved like these older business ladies and i swear i remember reading her name in so many articles with a long list of her corruption but cnat find it
Nooo đ. That's like real life k drama. Horrible. đŁ
@@muslimahsharing4761it is in a Kdrama called Taxi Driver Season 2. They used this story in its episodes. It was infuriating.
Oh my goshâŠ
No cause I've watched this in Taxi Driver season 2. I was thinking everything is absurd and can't believe it would happend but here I am listening to everything that really happened. I'll never look SK the same way again.
I was shocked to my core when the sentence âShe is comfort women levelâ was said. Knowing the full historical context of that term and the horrific experiences the women went through is beyond reproach that any person would describe a woman like that.
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This was honestly horryfying
What does it mean?
â @@kittikovari4322 the term âcomfort womenâ is used for women who were sex slaves to Japanese military men during world war two, they were held in brothels and a majority of these women were Korean although there was comfort women from basically every country that Japan had invaded at that time
â@@leppapajugun ianfu?
Iâm not even 10 minutes in and Iâm so insanely disgusted. Iâm so glad Iâve finally decided to learn about this inhumane incident
A bbc doc was just released about this, Iâd love if you make a video about it!