BOSS RC-600 rhythm tips: Rhythm changes on different tracks
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Here I show how to have completely different drum patterns, genres and even tempos on different tracks on the same memory. Hope it helps.
Timecodes
0:00 Intro
1:12 How my unit is set up (pedal-wise)
1:58 Settings for routing and tracks
3:28 Pre-recorded rhythm example (Track 1)
6:50 Recording rhythm of a different length (Track 2)
8:51 Recording rhythm at a different tempo (Track 3)
12:00 Playback settings
13:16 Another brief example (rhythm loop from a DAW)
Thanks for your post. I have the Boss 505mk2. Since the software is similar, your videos are very helpful. I look forward to seeing more about downloading DAW recordings. Thanks for your time and sharing.
Eric
Thank you so very much for your informative tutorials. This machine is a monster and it’s folks like you that really help unlock it’s deep dark secrets. Please keep on keeping on, and thank you so very very much
Hi Bruce. Thanks so much for the kind words! I am hoping to get to another video about this beast soon : )
Very useful, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the vid, could loops and rhythms be synced in the software? I have cubase and ezdrummer so maybe it's better to create prerecorded loops using those? A vid of how you used your day would be awesome 😎
Thanks, Dean. I have had some luck syncing them, if you mean imported loops. I will be doing a vid soon on how to import from DAW and also from another pedal (like Trio Band) to DAW then RC-600. Cheers!
Hi, I found your video very helpful. But I'm wondering how to do the drum fills between tracks. Is that possible?
Hi, thanks. As far as I can see the only fills option is under the rhythm menu going to a page where you see fill option to switch on or off. In the example I did here the switch was off. There is also a variation option that looks like it should switch variations either by measure or loop but I'm not sure that works (I couldn't notice a difference!).
Set "variation change" to "measure", then changen the variation while recording the rhythm onto your track. Should work.
Hi Eric, Thanks for your posting. I am finding the RC600 to be maddeningly unintuitive. Maybe you can give me some advice. Here is what I am trying to accomplish, and , for the life of me, can't seem to get to work. Seems to me this should be a given for this device.
Goal: In a live looping session, using only my feet, I want to be able to record 2 measures on Track One, 2 measures on Track Two. and 10 measures on Track Three. I then want to be able to trigger Track 3 so that it comes in automatically at the end of either Track One or Two, by using the track change / end of loop command. So far, when I set this up, Track Three will start somewhere in the middle of the loop. It needs to start at the beginning. (The only way I've found to make it work is to turn 'Loop Sync' off on Track Three, but that requires a manual adjustment, bending down and using my hand. I see no way to change Loop Sync on/off with a foot switch assignment.
I have tried playing with 'quantize', 'tempo sync', and even creating a template.
There's got to be something I'm missing.
Please, please advise.
Cheers
I think there is no other way to start a loop of a different measure length at its beginning (e.g. on your Track 3) than to have loop sync off, but then with it off you cannot record a preset length unless you do so manually (i.e. getting your timing spot on finishing your loop exactly at the end of your 10 measures, and having that loop's measure length set to Free). Is there a reason you don't want to use the method I laid out in the vid? If you do you could have your loop lengths preset. What is the drawback for you?
@@ericchristianson7589 Thanks Eric for taking the time to respond. Greatly appreciated. I understand your suggestion and will sort this out.
Cheers
Sell it. It's a doorstop. Boss should be ashamed of this mess
Hi, the 11:00 where you adjust track levels, I dont have that option, where did you set that so you can do level per track? Thanks
Hi Mike. What you're seeing at 11:00 is me using one of the four main knobs as assigned in the menu. If you press MENU/SETUP and move two pages right you'll see options for assigning the four knobs for the whole system. I assigned Track 1 level to one of the knobs because I use it a lot. If you just want to adjust the level of each track, just press LOOP/TRACK (1-6) and adjust 'play level' on the first screen. Cheers.
Hi 👋
I can't seem to find a way to turn off the click/tap tempo/rhythm. On the rc300 it was on the outside next to the tap. I can't seem to find it anywhere which is really odd. Surely ppl like to free loop without a click or tapping in a tempo? Please help
Hi Robert. Sorry for the delay. Have been on holiday.
The key here I think is to have the rhythm off (with the dedicated rhythm button). If you turn it off you can start a loop and when you've finished recording it, it will detect the tempo but there will be no click, and you can sync other tracks to that tempo or not with the sync settings for each track. Does that help?
Thanks for this video, I hoped there was a simpler solution (why cant one assign a pedal to change pattern or genre?). But I will try this too :)
I couldn't agree more. If Boss is listening, give us a firmware update with an additional assign to change genres. As it is, there are assigns to change the pattern on its own or the kit, and the kit can give you a very different sound--you need to set target minimum to one kit and max to another and you can toggle between.
@@ericchristianson7589 A Firmwareupdate adressing this would be great!
I can only find assigns for variation and kit, are you sure there is one for pattern?
@@ONEPLAYERMODE oops I meant variation. Sorry!
Enjoyed Your video..Picked up a couple 3 things to try..Had the RC-50 and 300..Have a Bunch of WMA's from those on the computer..I'll checkout Sweetwaters site about the Boss Tonestudio...THANKS ! Man-Do I Miss Paper Manuals..I have 3 full cards from my Trio+..If that thing would have had MIDI-and Seperate Bass-Drum and Loop outs.I'd still be using it.A Buddy and I did a lot with it using the Song Function..Then-Recorded onto a DAW..And Adding onto that...MIDI Sure would have been Nice...If you have a Drum Machine.Try sending MIDI from your RC-600..And Using the RC-600 Rythem with it.I was doing that with an Alesis SR-16 OR a BeatBuddy...Both have Fills.. Allman Bros./Grateful Dead Style Double Drummers.. 👍 👍
Thanks for that. Yeah, the Trio+ is a great pedal. I normally sell a loop pedal towards getting a new one but this is the only time I decided to keep my previous, the Trio, because it is such a cool writing tool and the bass algorithms are brilliant. I haven't tried midi drums yet with a looper though I did struggle for hours with the so-called rhythm converter for this pedal and found it to be crap! I would send midi drums from my DAW that sounded nothing like what they should on the RC-600, probably because the mapping is different??
www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/boss-rc-600-how-to-use-boss-tone-studio/
Thank you so much, now i know how it works (after a month)...
isn't it better NOT to record a drum pattern to a loop to stay flexible with the drum kits/pattern or rythmn speed or if you want to transfer it to a DAW and put better quality/worked out drums on the tracks?
Hi. Thank you! I can see what you mean in terms of changing speed, but if you’re happy with keeping the tempo there’s a lot of flexibility particularly as you can add any track effects on the fly. Of course you can import prerecorded drums from daw too. Am going to do videos on both such possibilities 🤘
Hey man, excellent video. You are the reason why I kept the RC600. I am having trouble laying down different beats on one memory. I tried doing exactly what you to get two different rhythms but dor some reason I only get one rhythm which is the last one I recorded. What am I doing wrong? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks! I'm not sure I can help beyond what's in the video. Can you be more specific? Will it just not let you record a second rhythm track?
@Eric Christianson HI, thank you for getting back to me. When I record on track 1 and select a pattern, that pattern is in memory. Of ibwant to go to track 2 and record a totally different genre pattern that will record in track 2. The problem is for me that track 1 now converts to what I did in track 2 instead of keeping track 1. Hope this makes sense.
All I can think of is that you've maybe missed a step in the routing to ensure the rhythm gets on to the track. Once it's there, and tempo sync is off, it should stay--so I'm stumped.
I will try again later today. I am sure it is something I am missing and not the machine. Thank you for getting back to me. Your video was very helpful.
@Eric Christianson Eric, I figured out how to do what you were doing. The reason it didn't work for me was that I forgot to turn off the rhythm button. Right now I have track one and track tow on pedal buttons one and three. How did you designate rhythms on pedal buttons 1 and 2 versus 1 and 3 which seems to be factory settings?
does the recorded track play endlessly?Is there a setting for that? I want to have a different drumbeat on each track to play along with (as long as I want), but so far they just play as long as I recorded them, which is annoying
Apart from playing endlessly as a recorded loop, which it will do, I’m not sure what you mean?
Can I add just a simple kick sound to the rhythm section? It doesnt have one like the rc300 had. Thank you
I don’t actually have this unit anymore but to my recollection there is no simple kick beat, which is a real shame!
Is there a guitar tuner? I'm folling crazy for find it! thank you for help.... 🙂
Not that I can see! I guess it wouldn’t be easy to access on the fly unless there was a dedicated switch
@@ericchristianson7589 thank you!
I think Eric that the Trio + that you show is much more friendly to musicians, this Boss Rc is too complicated, even if you learn to handle it, each step you take it´s too long, and yes, the sound of drums and percussion can be clean with it but it lacks that general thread, that groove and those timely variations, not to mention the dynamics, that the Trio + in my opinion achieves much better.
For looper professionals and people who have lived playing versions, it may be fine, but it is not to go alone with it (I see in the video that you take your effects separately, normal) because their effects, what I've heard of them in the videos, leave a lot to be desired.
On the other hand, it doesn't surprise me that people stop using rhythms with it and prefer to strum the guitar with muted strings due to this that you mentioned at the beginning, and I have returned to point.
I know what you mean, Emilio. There are elements I wish I could take from the Trio+. The bass algorithms are brilliant. I wonder if they will update it! Still I have to say the sound quality live has been brilliant on this and the more I use it the more potential I find.
@@ericchristianson7589 Sorry Eric, you mean the more you use the Rc 600 the more potential you find in it, right?
@@emiliosujar7197 I do. It gets simpler in a way and more easy to streamline when you learn all its shortcuts
@@ericchristianson7589 Thanks so much, you help me a lot.
Man, you're all over the place.
There’s a certain point where automation doesn’t promote the making of music… in the time spent doing all this. 🤷🏻
I take your point. It’s all pointless if the song is crap. The song is everything. I write just with me and my guitar but if you have a solid tune this is just as helpful as anything else that promotes production quality such as pedals or daws. And I enjoy the process and get satisfaction from it. Whatever floats ur boat 🤘
@@ericchristianson7589 I got one of those