Simple Way to Tell Between Fe and Fi
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- FIXED IT! A quite consistent (yet potentially tricky) difference between Fi vs. Fe users.
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As an INFP watching you is weird its like watching myself
I was listening to this in my car while driving and thought the same thing but just listening. INFP don’t get to the point quickly and generally speak more thoughtfully and slower, so I’ve been told as an INFP 😆😆 I see it here too☺️♥️
exactly
LOL
The struggle of being an FE user is sometimes THINKING I'm happy when I'm actually not due to not knowing how I'm really feeling at times. So I may appear very happy and project that outwards but don't actually know that I'm really unhappy on the inside.
Exactly.
same here, like i can't tell if I'm really sad or it's just an emotional downturn lmao or i say i'm fine and i'm convinced of it but i'm just ignoring my problems 🤣
That's gotta be a struggle with infp too cuz this is how I feel constantly
I later found out I have autism - and this is something called alexythmia lol. interesting.@@forest1605
Very interesting. I’m an Fi user. My therapist noticed how I would laugh or giggle when I was describing something that was unpleasant.
This! My husband is an Fe user of some sort so he looks for (almost needs) outwardly expressed "tells" for a person's mood. He will look at me in quiet moments and NEED me to "show" him I am happy or in a good mood or that I am ok. We have been together for 35 years so I am kinda mostly used to this, but sometimes it still drives me bonkers, lol! I have often made the comment, "what do you want me to do to prove to you I am happy, jump up and down and have a celebration? I can't be jovial all of the time." Then it makes me wonder how my demeanor comes across that he thinks I am sad or unhappy... And then beyond that what must other onlookers think of me? I actually am pretty happy most of the time, other than when I am struggling with anxiety - but he needs me to be expressive and to me that can be exhausting, lol. Also, I have this habit of laughing in the middle of being really mad and it makes even me question my sanity! Like, I know I am angry, where is this laughter coming from (when I was younger it was crying, I would ball when I was mad)...
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing 🤔
I cry sometimes when I'm angry but am an Fe user. I think that culture plays a huge part in how comfortable we are to express & accept the fact that we have emotions. Modern times, ever since somebody decided we're dominant in our left or right brain.. Along with the establishment o patriarchy or at least the British & the WW2 after effects of "keep calm, carry on".. We're all crazier for it, we're all constipated & don't know how to act.. This is my mass over generalisation.. Based on zero research.
Depression has masked anger for me
@cass
That's such an Fe concern - caring for something bigger than themselves. Fi users can "pretend" they do, but it is intrinsic in Fe users.
Though, I'm mostly stoic - I couldn't care less whatever anyone thinks of me, or said of me, but when I hear anybody (even I don't know them), gets disrepected of any sort, Ahh, it'll make my blood boil. And I'll get very vocal, with fast, sharp, venomous and carefully selected language to make the biggest impact.
@@cass8330 I'm an INFJ, Fe is my second function. I mostly only cry when I'm angry, often when I'm at my wit's end and about to word vomit someone's deep insecurities back at them. It's like I feel the impact before it hits. I almost never cry because I'm just sad. I was going to say this started to change in the last couple years, but as I was writing, realized that wasn't sadness. It was frustration and overwhelm about the condition of the world, seeing potential ways of addressing issues and people doing the exact opposite, and feeling powerless to actually make a real impact
INFJ. My emotions are written all over my face and body language before I say a word
INFJ can also be very stoic 💕
Yes that's true too. Especially when I'm doing the INFJ stare because I'm in lala land. 😀
@@KatErina-ii6ru Even my close friends often mentioned that they could not read me ~INFJ
@@orion5397 did she call you violet?
LOL, sorry I'm just playing on your username... I couldn't help it XD
@@mokari9268 Yes it's strange to call a guy Violet😁
THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE - I never understood why people never believed me when I told them how I feel.
One thing I’ve noticed about Fi is easier to understand when you think about Ti.
Ti love logic for logic’s sake, and challenges other’s logical frameworks to check its own integrity.
Fi finds beauty in emotion, even emotions that are not considered positive culturally. It also likes to challenge other’s values and decisions in order to be sure of its own integrity, much like Ti. It is interested in distinguishing between similar yet specific emotions in order to express itself in more interesting and specific ways.
Ok, I just like this profile pic or yours so much and can't find it, then I realised I can just ask you. So, can you tell me about that picture? Is it painting, from whom and what's the name of the pic if you know? Or is it just like photoshop of some real guy (although it's so perfect that I wouldn't tell it is)?
@@lucyk2634 I used the app called Gradient to turn a picture of myself into a painting. I laughed SO HARD because I felt so flattered when I saw this comment!!! Thank you so much! You just made my day!
Exactly.
@@sirmadam8183 He said Fi challenges Others.
My Fi just wnats to be seen as smart cuz im sick of being seen as dumb so I do all these smart puzzles to make me feel smart and flex about it and I look like ti user to ppl but I can't cuz I doubt my logic sm
Mostly true though I would like to mention that fe sometimes will “match” the group and not realize or be in touch with their emotions in that they won’t realize the negative emotions until later after the fact when they are alone and not emotionally absorbing the energy of the group. Saying this from my own experience as an infj
ISFP here. Dead on. I will verbally communicate a feeling but am highly unlikely to to display it except under extreme circumstances. It really is introverted.
XXTP so either tertiary or inferior Fe
Yet I look dead inside when it comes to expressing emotions lol
I analyse and feel them internally
wtf your description of Fi is SO TRUE 😭I always thought something was wrong with me for not being able to express my emotions well (as well as others). :( And its caused problems in rerlationships too, when I've tried to express that I'm angry, hurt, or sad about something and people would say that its hard to tell if i'm being serious or not 😭😭
@CasualCognition, Sometimes the Fi struggles to be taken seriously by others when they’re annoyed. So the Fi says things, yet unless the audience knows them well, the audience might not really think the Fi really is that fussed by the issue. I say this because sometimes there is a need to act out and let people know that you’re annoyed, pushing the Fi into Fe. When this happens I’m annoyed about having to show I’m annoyed (on top of the initial trigger for being annoyed). It’s a bit like anger squared!
Love your nails!
Yeah I was gonna say that too.
EDIT: Made an example of this (the Fi side at least) czcams.com/video/KocvekD5-gI/video.html
Yoo thanks so much to everyone who let me know that my last attempt at uploading this video was glitchy! Sorry for making some of you question whether you remembered to take your meds 😅
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My teacher yelled at us while applying lipstick and smiling once. It was scary.
Lol
INTP here. I find that this and other vid’s from this CZcamsr are excellent in describing and dealing with certain aspects of cognitive functions. For ex her vid on the similarities of all 4 introverted functions is second to none, IMO.
However, as to the most likely underlying reason for why sometimes Fi dom’s don’t emote their actual feelings, in addition to the points here, I believe this other thing is perhaps more pertinent:
Fi users are known for normally expressing their feelings accurately without much apparent thought to the external environment, giving them their infamous reputation of seeming oh so comfortable with hanging on to negative emotions for a long time (you go INFP/ISFPs!) However, at certain specific moments with, usually, more intense, negative emotions, they will make this 180 degree switch to emote markedly different feelings to what is actually going on inside of them. Why? I believe it is primarily because Fi is a highly personalized and in a way potentially ‘sensitive’ function, as notions driven by Fi can to the Fi dom be among those things they hold the closest to their ‘heart/soul’.
Now, normally, since the Fi dom usually is not looking for/ needing anybody to validate or ‘approve’ their emotions and thoughts, they will have no issue expressing or talking out their positions freely. That is, until they no longer feel emotionally safe doing so, based on what they perceive, accurately or not, how the particular audience they are interacting with at that specific moment NOT being understanding to their points. In this particular case, when the Fi dom believes that their emotion will likely be questioned, maybe ridiculed, and/or they haven’t ruminated enough / come to full terms with their feelings on the particular issue at hand and be ready to explain it, if, and that could be only in theory, they will be challenged, they will then become overly protective about this position / emotion and it will feel so incredibly personal to them, so the final effect is that they will react in a way that protects them from any outsiders / audience’ input altogether by putting up a wall of false emotions, in order to keep ‘the intruders’ away and not even give them a chance to question or challenge the Fi dom’s feelings. To be sure, this scenario would typically only occur for issues of deep importance to the Fi dom (and to their Fi).
Thing is, as an INTP I experience this EXACT phenomenon, only with thought-assessments: I normally will talk very freely and openly, even brazenly, about my positions. Until, that is, the moment I think that the audience likely will NOT at all understand my logic (often while their eager attempts at doing so leaves lots to be desired), and the issue is highly important to me and close to my heart. In that case I will simply abruptly shut up or very deliberately and awkwardly change the subject, usually to the audience’s incessant protests.
I believe I have this from Antonia Dodge at Personality Hacker: at that point my Ti sort of ‘takes over’ my behavior because it intensely does not TRUST the audience with the personal content matter.
as an infp, this is so cool :3
A bundled-up INFP - almost couldn't get more Fi, or Fx in general (Fe&Fi) ^^
Lovely to watch a video from you and hear your voice again, Calipso(and even remember your name)! 🙂😊
Quite in-depth analysis also, actually.
(Beautiful and beautifully white fingernails btw)
Take care -INFJ
3:25 same im a FE and I always used to laugh or have a smile when I told my therapist about difficult things. I couldn't help it
I'm definitely a typical Fi user in this regard, as my emotional display is often really flat when I talk about times when I've felt happy or sad. Because of that, I've been told by a couple of people that I come across as very stoic and even emotionless. I also get random spikes of emotion that occur spontaneously, and after I've felt a certain way, I literally can't bring that emotion back into my mind to communicate it with others. I just can't "make" myself feel a way that I am not currently feeling.
This made SO much sense. Helps me to understand my obviously fi daughter so much better. Thank you!!
that helped me a whole lot KKKKKKKKKKKK one thing everyone that knows me can agree about it's how funny is when a tell a story that angered me, bc while I tell them what happened, I gradually return to the "pissed off" state, and when the story done, my anger ends as well
Happens the same to me!! What type are you?
@@sofiamaroto1 Idk precisely just yet, but something in between INTP and ENTP
Very insightful. Thanks! I can see that in an INFP, like "That must be why I don't feel awesome, lol!" I'd say something similar (INFJ), but it would be sarcasm, like, "Yep, this is how I normally look." I can be kind of subtle with the sarcasm (as this is), but if you know me, you'd catch it easily.
I can't show my emotions consistently.
me too but I bet they show more in your voice though.
I have Fe third and I find that I can feel sad out with other people but I have to switch it off because I don't want to ruin the vibe. and after a while I forget I'm sad. but then I keep having flashes or quiet moments of introspection. But if someone talks to me I'm back in Fe mode and have to switch my sadness off again. its unhealthy because people always come to me with problems which is fine and I'm happy to help and support people. But I struggle with offloading my own emotions because I don't want to put my negativity on to others. it never seems appropriate.
Your drawing is great ! I feel I'm going to need it to explain Fe vs Fi so thanks a lot because explaining functions to others is actually the hardest and most interesting in mbti
You know strange thing about me even as an Fi user My emotions will come out through my voice of what I am feeling . My face not as much unless I put more intent into it showing.
Tert Fi here. Your explanation is very accurate.
ISTJ
This is a good general explanation.
Though in terms of consistency of message communicated- exact/overt/matching emotional response I can sometimes as a fe user go the other way and appear More "invested"/vaguely dramatic than I actually am which people like to make assumptions about (sometimes this is because depending whom I am talking to I experience some level of stress or consternation that I am even communciating in efficient/holistic/relevant enough way/due to a sense of exposure)
So therefore I admit that there is some level of inconsistency here
Partially as well as a infj I have to also mention that we use somewhat emotionally tinted language at times I think because we try to adopt or mirror the language patterns of those around us, and also because our emotions and thoughts are so closely linked by emotional intellectualisations that they may seem to blend together
So I'd say that it probably isn't easy to observe and identify exactly what we are doing when doing this
(Ironically we attempt all of this for complete consistency)
I can relate to this
Should I be tricky then? As an infp I’m more often actually expressive with what I say and how I feel than being incongruent with that. It’s always easy to tell how I feel just looking at me, or when I reply to someone. It’s the worst when I’m having this energy loss, I really want not to let my energy pass on someone else but I just can’t fake it, but it is kinda truth about mixing the emotions, I always feel very paradoxical, so when I think about the content it makes me want to laugh 😆 and here is the explanation for my weird behavior when I’m stressed, mostly in social interactions I just start laughing and everyone asks why and I just can’t explain because it is stupid 😂
My strategy for example when someone asks me at a party or whatever similar thing “are you having fun?” When I’m a little down or quiet I’m more likely to catch something that I actually like and point expressively how I found it interesting what someone said or done, or just concentrate on the feeling part and simply say that something is so warm and comfortable or beautiful/intriguing if I really like that. Or just say what is on my mind 🤷🏼♀️ If I’m feeling comfortable enough (or more like I actually see that someone in interested in my answer not just asking to start a conversation) to talk with this person so openly in my goofy and abstractional way
I'm an intp, and when I feel very sad or mad, I tend to voice it out as it is but sometimes when I send a voice recording to my friend, while ranting about it with my whole chest (for me it's like I'm exploding in anger while talking) but then when I hear my voice recording back, it sounds lifeless and monotone lol
I’m so weird because I NEVER cry (literally have cried like 2 times in the last 3 years) and I don’t feel emotions but at the same time I am “empathetic” (I don’t feel emotions, I help other just because it makes sense to me).
Ex: when I watch animals die in slaughterhouses I don't feel any emotion, I don't even feel sorry for animals. at the same time I am vegan because there is no point in killing animals.
I don’t understand if that’s a Fi thing, a Fe thing or a Ti thing 😩
That's called emotional numbness lol
More seriously I suppose it's Ti and Fi, Fi just tells you to be emotionally logic with yourself and follow your personal values so if your personal values tell you that it's not logic to you to kill an animal your Ti will follow it because it appears as a logic thing to him
But I'm not sure, maybe it's just Ti, I am an INTP so I have some trouble with the understanding of what Fi is
I relate to your text but never actually put it into words - thanks for writing it down!
@@mostcreativenickname same
Why did you delete your last videos?..... I adore INFPs Se blind, its cute.
The last upload of this video? Because it was epilepsy-inducing.
oh yeah, i wrote it down and associated your rules in all the possible combinations so i can create an algorithm and i will see if the algorithm work. So you basically showed us the conclusion of your inductive reasoning (te) which is: Observation>Pattern>Tentative hypothesis>Theory and i use deductive reasoning (ti) which is: Theory>Hypothesis>Observation>Confirmation. Now i have to see if the algorithm match my observations and i can confirm are refute your theory!
Heart (what I feel) and speech must always match, otherwise I choose silence or sarcasm 😅!
This!! I've felt that my incongruity could be due to me Ne and seeing possibilities - like being able to see humour in really bad circumstances (so bad it's funny) and things like that... But this is totally something I've been confronted on before.
When I'm sad and with happy people as a fe entp, I hate the feeling of being vulnerable so others see, I tend to want to be logical so tho I'm hiding my true feelings I'm still being real, but I use Ti to show logic than emotion.
When I'm sitting in my emotion of sadness with others which isn't often, I just go more distant or detached talking, or leave to be by my self, its like my emotions have been drained out expressionately.
As an INFJ, I relate to what you're saying. Sorry you have to go through this. Thanks for articulating my jumbled up thoughts 😘
but can't Fi user be highly expressive as well, due to their want for individuality? and fe user may not show how they feel right away because they are concerned with the groups wellbeing, resulting in not wanting to bother them with their own emotional concerns?
I feel like it's not always that easy to tell, since the judging functions are far more complex than that
I not only once perceived that Fi users can be extremely expressive, and I think that may have to do with their often times high moral standards. Fi users tend to deeply believe in something, and don't shy away from standing up for that, resulting in them expressing their wants, needs and goals. look at fictional characters like eren jäger, who is an Fi dom. he always expressed himself. also kurapika, tertiary Fi user, highly expressive especially when in his Ni-Fi loop.
High fe users on the other hand often lack self identity, and therefore seem more stoic in their speaking patterns. look at chrollo lucilfer, an infj. I chose these characters because their mbti is easy to spot and generally agreed on by the community. of course you can find that in real people as well
Actually, I'm a ESFP, that means I'm Se Fi Te Ni, and I can tell you the difference between Fe and Fi is that we take into account our feelings rather than others' feelings. We show our emotions (people say I shouldn't be so mad all the time) but we get emotional because of what we feel, not what others' feel. Sometimes we could be seen as non-empathetic because of that. I don't show other emotions than anger and seriousness in public, but that doesn't mean we don't feel anything else or other Fi users don't show other emotions.
BTW, we give a lot of importance to our own values, so if we see others' values we don't really care if they're different as ours, and we can even get into fights because of that.
@@Amuztak oh okay, thanks for sharing your experiences! I'm an Fe user so hearing other's (personal) perspectives on Fi is always a great thing
@@lena007_ anytime
This seems true. I have self-typed myself as an Fi-user. *INFP to be exact. I sometimes tell people I’m fine and they’ll (at least initially) not believe me because I sound tired or uncertain or whatever. Other times I’m really upset but I try not to show it, yet my tone of voice or facial expressions give it away. In those cases, I’m just glad that I remain in control over my emotions and have not snapped and started to cry or yell. One of the last times I had done that I was bullied for it and called a “princess” and they never bothered to listen to me. Yesterday it almost happened again but I was able to remain in control of my emotions and they eventually left me alone. Either way the way how I express myself constantly betrays my feelings.
Edit: Figured I would be more specific about my type in case that matters.
By golly you articulated it.
Wow thanks. Finally know that I use Fe for sure.
You must remember that low Fx users can imitate Fi via other methods. As an INTP usually I'm completely detached from my emotions in my default, I also am Ti dom and Fe comes naturally only when comfortable. So I'm using Ti with help from Si to imitate Fi constantly. I think about how I would feel based on past experiences and sensory but not emotional input, and the things that happened in the relevant previous timespan. I'm more likely to feel pleasure, discomfort or boredom than a tangible emotion if my body is telling me something
Great observation! I will be crazy sad and tell everyone I am scary depressed with a smile on my face and they won't get it. I have to be careful with Doctors because if they don't understand Fi, they don't think I'm very sick and I could be super sick! LOL
Laughing during therapy when you really want to tell them how sad you are 😭😭😭 I did that too 😂 so frustrating.
I have that as well at the doctors and with my psychologist it's really annoying, 😩
Hi Calypso! I'm an INFP (I think you're the most relatable CZcamsr I follow haha). I'm wondering how you keep an open mind towards high Te and Fe (aka "efficiency") users? I find myself becoming cynical/judgemental because it seems like they're just interested in the outcome and have no care for the real meaning or impact of things. Maybe this is because I'm currently dealing with an ESTJ at work and it's been really difficult to empathize with his way of thinking x_x
Thanks for continuing to make videos, sending love~ ^^
Great video and I understand completely. Proves I'm a Fe user over Fi instead of the other way around.
the audio is really clear :000
Thank u Calypso (beautiful name btw hope I typed it correctly) this was very informative!
pls i have auxiliary fi and i laughed a lot because you described me soo well
Can u do a video about how to tell if you’re an INFP or ISFP or the differences between NE/SI, SE/NI? because I can’t tell for sure whether my eye movement is SE or NE
Are you in The moment or more in The future?
I already have a lot of videos on that. Search my channel for introduction, the perceiving axes, predictor ideator, experimenter imprinter, symbols archetypes and 8 positions. There are more but those are the main ones :)
@@CasualCognition I’ve actually watched all of the videos that you’ve mentioned :) it’ just that the more I watch the more indecisive I get!
How can I be sure of my type??
Because whenever I finally decide on a type I see more possibilities of being the other •_•
You once said that if you’re having doubts then you’re most likely an INFP
I’ll rewatch (for the 10th time) and force myself to choose one
@@Y77-7 I know this was four months ago, but if you keep coming back to it because of the possibility of being the other type, you probably use ne
FE genuine caring
FI authentic values
I've been waiting for this...
I Guess it would be much more difficult to diagnose depression on an Fi user, I Guess..
That was an amazing point.. I actually always notice that about myself, but I thought it was social anxiety or sth
Mh actually it must be the other way around
"Easier when talking about negative things."
That's because there's no social advantage (usually) to faking negative emotions.
All ik is that it's impossible figuring this out when u have alexymia
I know I'm an ENFP, but I often find myself forced to adjust to the emotional environment (like, to keep from hurting other people's feelings). I don't always hate it, but often I do. It makes me feel like I'm dying. Like, it vanquishes me. I love Fe users, because sometimes they help me feel bigger feelings. But I also hate Fe users, because they wear me to the bone.
It was not too complicated. This first part -was actually very claryfying, very very good. Unnecessary self-discouragement happened ;)
Fi user here 😌
Thank you and yes! That's been incredibly useful
I'd like it if you showed examples that illustrate what you're saying/show it in motion whilst explaining the concept.
I think you're making good points, but it can be hard to follow for non NF types when its purely abstract.
I wasn't sure we had the same definition of congruent and wasn't sure I was following for the first five minutes until you drew the picture. :)
Thanks for the video!
I'm Se and I totally understood what She said
Maybe you're se and you don't even know.
Asking for details? Probably se
Examples will be in a future video :)
@@dianadias3 I'm ISTP, so I'm Se, yes. :)
I understood, but I was also sat there like "I think I see what she means.. But maybe what I mean by congruent and what she means is different?"
Se examples ground the concepts in reality, which Se-Ni likes, I guess.
I think people tend to get Fe and Fi confused a lot. People with Fi, for example, probably won't feel as comfortable sharing how much they like something, whereas for Fe its impersonal.
The stereotypes say Fi's go around talking about their values all day! It's totally untrue.
@@NicStride Yes, that is totally true, that is why I questioned being Fi lead for so long.. Even The word authenticity creates a lot of misconception..
I'm misinterpreted your comment.. I thought you were coming from an NF point of view saying Se types might not understand.. Like I felt attacked xD lol Because there are just so Many misconceptions around se that I thought you were coming from an arrogant point of view, like NF understand this stuff. sorry about that
As an intp I'm so confused
This may be why sometimes I feel normal but people tell me "shy are you so scared?" or "are you bored?" or "why are you shy?" when I don’t even feel that way, I have no idea what facial expression I have that gives them that idea, or with gifts when someone gives me a gift, I may act like I don’t even like it cause I don’t know how to react but actually I like it a lot, and then I feel bad about how I reacted and tell the person via text how much I love and appreciate the gift 😅
However I'm still confused as this could also mean I'm FE as I feel bad when I can’t express properly how I feel and I want the other person to know how much I appreciate whatever it is that they did, I just can’t always properly express it in the moment and when I try it feels fake.
My boyfriend took the test and it says that he is ISFP, but he can't really hide his emotions so he is Fe. So is that possible or it's just him with me cause he trust me?
I think a lot of Ne users (ENTPs) do the same things as Fi users, they can say something traumatic but the emotional display is totally different.
Hi I need help.
So I'm not very good at writing out my thoughts at all so please bare with me, this is going to be a chaotic mess that I'll try to organize (Might organize it too much LOL)
I'm struggling between every cognitive function, and I have for 5 years but I will keep to the topic. Fe vs fi. Okay. So I think I'm a fi user, I mean I focus on trying to be as genuine as I can be, I try to be myself at all times. When people judged me for being a girl and liking video games and skateboarding, I thought it was stupid. When people doubt my opinions that I strongly believe in, then I don't just change my mind for them. And I always question "Was I being ingenuine just then..." I'm constantly worried that I'm not being myself. Which I heard was fi. I also can't handle critcism at all, and get very very emotional and angry over anything. I take so many things personal and lets say if someone let me on read, I would panic thinking they hate me. Even when my logic is like "No they don't hate you" I'm still like. Nope, they 100% do and heres why. I focus on making myself happy, I just want to be happy. (But if someone expected me to be serious then I will be serious) While still being spiteful because I don't want to be serious right now, can't people just let me be myself? I also got really personal about my favourite shows probably because I projected onto a character that reminded me of me which I guess is also introverted feeling lol. I also really love being childish (because its a break from my overthinking) and I watch kids cartoons like MLP and stuff and people that call me childish over it, I would just freak out lmao and I would also get mad that they don't let me do those kind of things. So thats fi for sure, and people have said I'm a fi user.
HOWEVER
I seem to have fe. On tests, I score high on fe just as much as fi. All my opinions I get from my family. I argue opinions online a kid and they were crushed and I got into several arguements so I think that I don't deserve to have them. I also just adapt to people constantly. One minute I'll be anxious and stressed in my room, then someone optimistic will talk to me and boom, my entire personality changes to fit theres. I do this to get them to like me I guess, I'm aware of that but I also do it because I don't want them to focus on worrying about me too much when they have their own lives and should be happy. The thing is I AM OBSESSED with people, I am obsessed with validation. I try to be myself, but I find myself naturally gravitating to fit others emotions. Someone cries, then I cry. Someone laughs at a joke then I laugh. I want to be like other people, I want to be them. I mimic them. Whenever I have my own ideas on something, I don't share it with someone if I know they won't like it, and if they have an idea then I find myself agreeing with them no matter what. I can't tell if I genuinly believe them or not, but as soon as they say their idea, suddenly I just like it. For instance. I could despise a movie, hate everything about it. Then get home and my friend says "Damn that movie was so cool!" and suddenly I love that movie. I never knew if I actually despised it or not, I get confused on how I actually felt about the movie and just agree with my friend. Not even sure if its just to get them to like me more, or out of fear I'll make them mad if I disagree but its like I just switch up, I genuinely just adore the movie if they liked it. I've also found that I seem to be an empath. I get very sensitive with others and feel bad for them to the extreme. For example; My teacher who I've not replied to for days just gave me an extension for my work till the end of the month. I feel lazy, I feel stupid. Why has the teacher done this for me. I FEEL TERRIBLE, they are such a good person. And they have to deal with my crap? Why are they so nice. They deserve better. And then whenever I see people excluded, I just have to go and include them, I usually get left behind later on and thats when I get emotional and sad and take things personally. But It feels good at the time to make the other person happy, and I always go out of my way to include everyone at all times. Which leads me to think I have fe.
What do you think? I think that a big reason on why I'm so confused is because while I want to be myself. I don't exactly know who myself is. It seems to change. I can go from really really sensitive to just idgaf about anything lets make jokes easily. And I can go from shy and anxious (on the way to a party) To suddenly being the loudest one there (at the party?) or if not the loudest, at least adapt out of nowhere.
TY :D
Gosh, I relate. I do have the same struggle! From what you are telling here I would still gravitate towards Fi though! Some of the Fe stuff you listed still sounds like it could be coming from you Fi. For example how you want to include people who are excluded. It sounds like these traits still kinda come from Fi and your morals.
As for the confusion, maybe look into the enneagram. You might be a Fi user with the enneagram 9!
The thing is, that high degrees of people pleasing can come not from character but trauma and things like anxiety disorders. So if you have suffered from trauma of your own opinions earning you trouble (e.g. in a household with parents demanding you be like they want you to be from early childhood or them not being stable so meting their mood was a matter of perceived survival for you) then your need for feedback may not be related to your characte in first place and what cognitive functions youd preferably use.
What you need to consider is basically, by what pinciples you work in situations when things really matter to you (!) but there is NO outside pressure. Hence situations like: When you're free to express yourself and cannot go wrong because you are sure to be accepted, then what is important to you? What matters the most? How are your priorities then? What settings are preferred?
Overall, however, you sound like Fi with anxiety :'3 Have hugs!!
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"Born to feel" Intj
Have you stopped offering your typing services for good? On your website, it says that it’s unavailable because of health reasons.
Hi Caira, I hope not but it should be unavailable for at least a couple of months. I developed a chronic illness. Nothing too serious but I should avoid stress and straining my eyes and hope to bounce back 🌥
@@CasualCognition oh that’s understandable, of course. Your health comes first.
Fi - my feelings
Fe - their feelings
This is an awareness of.
Fe doms also tend to have a pretty good awareness of Fi, and vise versa, but Fe/Fi terts and inferiors don't.
i find it extremely easy to identify other infjs
How do you do it? What are the noticeable clues you see in an INFJ?
@@mysterical- we recognize eachother. we tend to be very very observant and analyzing... absorbing the surrounding scenario(and then the combined contrast of that deeply internally examining) much more so than other people so its easy to spot someone who notices as much as you do. and we tend to try and put emotional feelers out and seek connection and so the recognizing seeking heart connection, all those things combined are strong tells. you could also say we tend to be quite reserved and polite, thats the mental processes translated into behaviors. seeking connection but in a non outgoing way. its distinctive. this sounds kind of strange trying to put it into words but its all much more instinctual and intuitive (another infj sense)
in this way i think intp's tend to have a very similar "feel" to infjs except they arent socially motivated at the core(not to say they cant, its just not their function)
@@imsunnybaby that's amazing! I'm overly observant and analytical too, most of the time I'm noticing peoples behaviour as I walk by. I wouldnt say im searching for the ideal match otherwise I'd be disappointed that I can't find exact like-minded people.. but I'm trying to spot signs of intensity within a person, somebody who even holds similar traits that I give off. I've heard that other INFJ's intuitively know what each other mean even if you can't quite put your abstract thoughts into words. Perhaps a time will come when I'll bump into one.. of course you never know on the surface, you must always dig a little deeper and actually strike up a conversation to be sure.
@@imsunnybaby question: how easy is it for you to absorb another peoples emotions/pick up on their vibe? for me it's uncontrollable/automatic 😅 feels amplified when you're next to a crowd.. perhaps im just overly self-conscious and let it get the better of me
@@mysterical- i am similar. i can find crowds chaotic because of all the clashing motivations and personalities😅 to clarify i said "contrast of that deeply internally examining" it has a detached flavor. and in that way our manner can have a very similar 'feel' with intps. but our motivations are completely different. different "compass"
Fe is more likely to display the socially “appropriate” emotion and it may differ widely from what the internal emotion is. This explanation is confusing.
Good insight!
After pondering more about this, I have a theory why Fe's words and expressions are congruent while Fi's are not. The same principle applied for Te and Ti based on my observation. Fe attempts to affect, others, which they are 'actively selling an idea, and have to 'put up a show', hence the highly focused and intentional congruency, while not having a real Fi compass inside of them. Fii on the other hand, is trying to self express something that is random (as you put it), still-in-processing-mode and maybe raw, hence the incongruency as they do not wish to affect others. Having said this, I observe ind a highly self-actualized Fi-lead person, the expression and words are congruent, but firm and self-assured, without the psychological need to persuade. It comes of as strong and confident, hence persuasive in a different way, effortlessly. Hope this observation is useful. - ENTJ female
I do have a question I need some input on., did you guys observe that low self-esteem happen more with Te & Fe, and less for Ti & Fi?
Hi!!!! Is it possible for you to do my typeing? I have been trying to type myself for years and I mean like Im between 1/3 of the possible options.
Great educating Videos, Thanks!
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I have more positive Fi than Fe while I have way more negative Fe than Fi, while my function Ti is higher than both Fi and Fe. But I thought it was Fe that conceal their emotions because they want to please people while Fi stays true to themselves?
When will we be able to get typed by you on your website?
I’d like to have you consult me but I didn’t know how else to get in contact with you
I still don’t know if I’m Fe or Fi user …😅
Sorry to pry, but I'm still curious about happened with Alex. Any update?
Yeah I made an entire video about it like two years ago.
You remind me of an anime character :)
What's the difference between inferior Fe function vs introverted feeling?
Introverted Feeling is Fi. Inferior Fe is quite literally inferior Fe, as in ISTP or INTP
(Ti Se Ni Fe) => ISTP with inf Fe
(Fi Ne Si Te) => INFP with dominant Introverted Feeling (Fi)
This wasn't well thought out
Hey Calypso, I have an MBTI podcast and I was wondering if you'd be interested in being interviewed?
some background on me: I'm a 21 year old INTJ, I have 2 INFP brothers and 1 ENFP brother.
What's the name??
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You are cute for a femcel.
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