The Cause of Hyperia's Troubled Opening - The UK's Tallest & Fastest Roller Coaster
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- Hyperia opened just this year at Thorpe Park as the UK's tallest and fastest roller coaster! It looks extremely impressive and it's a ride I am itching to ride! However, it suffered a hiccup at the start of its season and in this video, we'll take a look at why that likely occurred and the steps being taken to keep the ride operating reliably.
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Clicked for the issue, stayed for the BLOCK ZONES!!!!
“For those of you who are unfamiliar, a block section is a section of roller coaster track in which only one train may occupy; at the end of each block zone is a method to stop a train in case the section ahead is occupied, this is the safety system in place to keep roller coaster trains from colliding with each other”
😂😂😂
I broke into a grin when I heard that : )
It’s nice that Thorpe Park and MACK Rides are actually working together in order to fix this issue and not the park putting blame on the manufacturer.
no park would EVER blame the manufacturer right?
...right?
If this is a shot at Cedar Point and Zamperla, please point out where CP has placed any blame...
@@ajwebber no at Cedar Point but just in general. I specifically remember when Kings Island put public blame at Arrow for The Bat (the original) for all its technical difficulties.
@@ajwebberstraight up in their press release they threw zamperla under the bus. Actually BOTH times, they said something like "while the rides manufacturer, zamperla works to fix the issue". That is most definitely CP throwing zamperla under the bus. TT2 is all on Cedar Point in my opinion. They went with an unproven manufacturer, who used their prototype train, and had to make changes to the original lightning trains, so these trains are even more of a prototype than the original lightnig trains.
@@Spike-sk7qlZamperla shouldn’t have taken the work then. It’s both of their faults, but it’s mostly Zamperla’s as they are the ones who made the ride
I rode this last week while I was in the UK, imagine my delight to see a block zone breakdown as soon as I get back from vacation. Very different from anything I’ve ever been on before. Smooth but packs a punch. Ride crew is crushing it too, great sense of urgency in the station.
that stall looks amazing
The stall l is ridiculous. & wonderful. So is the drop in the back. Yeah it’s awesome, come over and stay in Woking or something don’t bother with London, think there is a big new Hilton opening with a sky bar should
Be visible from there… I think. Anyway wokings a good option that’s nice and not London and super close car ride. You could go to Guildford and check out the space marine 40k VR thing too in September. Plenty of reasons to come to uk.
It's so much better than most of us thought. Every element is exceptional and feels unique. It's much more intense than a B&M hyper. The airtime isn't like an RMC either. Instead of repetitively ramming you quickly into the restraint, elements transition slowly from strong floater to long sustained ejector. You can tell a lot of love went into its deign. It feels closer to an Intamin in terms of airtime but more out of control and uniquely profiled like an RMC. I've ridden around 30-50 of the world's top 100 coasters according to most lists and it's my 3rd fav. Hope you get to ride soon :)
Have met the lead designer, he’s a top bloke. Glad the issues seem to be sorted now.
the only rmc i have done (so far) is untamed, which also had some great sustained ejector and floather. Personally didnt like the quick ejector pops as much, so hyperia sounds right up my alley.
This was well said and written. What they said.
I am a ride host for Hyperia and a big fan of your channel so thanks for making this video! Hyperia is an amazing ride but you are right about the brake run being slow. Often we’ll send a train and have to wait a bit of time for the next train to come in and park. On average we’re hitting around 30-35 trains an hour and that’s mainly due to it crawling on the brake run not because we’re slow with dispatching
How hard would that be to adjust, realistically? Is it one of those pretty straight forward thing, but would involve the higher ups to come out and everyone sign stuff so.... its not gonna happen any time soon lol or?
@@benbray4982not super higher up. But definitely expect ride close for bit long time to tune the sensor and make sure with those kind of excess energy, you aren't crashing the train.
Or.... They just leave as it is. Sometimes this is something you need to live with
@@HANDO2001 you guys are killing it! Looking forward to my first ride tomorrow after two failed visits!
They should remove the brake fins on the final hop into the brake run and maybe remove a few more fins to slow it down later or just use a different material that has less of a force when eddy currents are produced same with on the “splashdown”
I've had 5 rides on hyperia, most in middle rows but one in the back. The first drop is truly incredible and i can garuntee there's nothing like it. If i would be to describe hyperia, I'd say the elements last forever and give sustained airtime/hangtime (some floater, some ejector). The outerbank in particular feels like the airtime lasts a lifetime. In terms of operations, i can confirm the ride ops are doing an excellent job pumping out trains (and one of them cheekily let me have the back row and i love them for it). Best thing we have in the uk by a mile.
It rides like the soundtrack. It’s epic and awesome. I’ve ridden iron gwazi, adored that and this. That sort of level coaster.
About the capacity, from the train stopping in the station to being clear to dispatch seems to be 25-35 seconds of loading and restraint checking, and they are getting trains out the station before the next one hits the breaks consistantly. The length of the entire main queue was specified by the park as an hour and a half, however they seem to be much faster in poractice. Overall the ride crews are great!
I rode HYPERIA opening day twice and my first go I queued 7h and I don't regret it. It's the first coaster we have in UK that actually stands out on the world stage. Yes sure it's short but it packs a mighty punch (perfect pacing,great elements and no dead spots)
Come and give it a go Ryan it's worth it.
I went on Hyperia last Monday and oh my god, out of all the coasters I've been on in the UK this by far tops it, it's a whole new experience. The amount of airtime you get in unreal, the excitement you feel on the lift hill is unmatched, it's a really refreshing roller coaster and I couldn't stop smiling afterwards!
I got 3 rides in on Hyperia opening day, and its definitely a world class coaster, fitting in somewhere in the lower half of my top 10, battling with Taron, Twisted Colossus & Gotham City Escape. Each element is excellent, with the first drop and the stall standing out as my favorite examples of those elements so far.
Great explanation! I'd been keeping an eye on it because i was due to go again the weekend after it reopened, however it dropped down to one train ops because it stalled & the train had to be removed and reassembled. Didn't fancy the queues that could lead to so I'm going again in a few weeks. Seems like this issue is resolved so hopefully no more stalls and it should be running reliably again.
This. Looks to be all good now.
My favourite part about it was after my 2 hour long queue, I realised that it begins playing its theme right as a train progresses through the final block section. So on the final beat all the lights in the station turn on and all the seats rise at the same time. It’s the coolest thing you’ll ever witness
thorpe park is in the edge of london technically making it a 10 minute drive from what is normally considered london
ive only done hyperia on the back row. you get whiped down the first drop and the airtime is phenominal
Honestly by far the best ride I’ve been on, that drop is my favourite element on any coaster as eel but every single element is up there
Wont even lie when the train hits the bottom of each element it feels quite shaky but not rough per say, surprised it already has this issue.
Yeah I had the same experience yesterday actually, especially the part where the onride photo is. It's especially bad with one of the trains as I got one back row ride and some middle rides and one of the middle rides was really shaky unfortunately, the rest were great though!
Finally! Been dying for an explanation and this one actually makes sense.
The ride is GOATed, at least in the UK.
Honestly an absolutely amazing rollercoaster! You definitely need to come to the UK the air time is just amazing! I’ve rode it 3 times now! Row 6, 3 and front row!
So so good! I’ve ridden twice - row 7 and 5. Both incredible rides. How was the front row? Was the drop more or less intense at the front? Definitely want a front row and a back row ride when I can!
I flew to London from the States on June 15th just to ride this beast. Pull into the parking lot and the train was stuck at the top of the hill. Hours later Thorpe pushed a notification through their app that it wouldn't open the rest of the day and that they were issuing tickets to come back at a later date. Extremely upsetting as this was the only day I could visit the park.
I’ve only ever ridden UK rollercoasters so Hyperia absolutely blew me away with all the great elements, so glad you made a video on why it wasn’t working at first
Good to hear your take on this. I'm going to Thorpe Park in September and I can't wait to get on this, also another new credit for me in Swarm since it wasn't there last time I went to Thorpe Park in 2010. It's quite far from me Alton Towers is much closer so it's a real treat when I finally get to go there.
I’ve ridden Hyperia twice. That first drop is insane. The first time riding it my brain took a while to catch up to what had just happened 😂 that was row 7 on the right. My second ride was row 5 on the left. I fully recommend the left seat to make the most of that outer bank turn. Incredible feeling! My friend scored 2 back seat rides and he says that’s the sweet spot. So incredibly fast. Once you’ve found your fearless once, you will soar through the air in pure ecstasy from then on. The stall is pure magic! Just everything about it is beautiful! Hope you get to ride her soon! It’s an experience you won’t forget
Amazing video Ryan. I queued for 7 hours on opening day to ride Hyperia, and it was well worth the wait. I got off speechless, it is one of the best coasters I have ever ridden. 100% would say it is worth coming to the UK to ride.
The ride operations were on point when I rode 3x last week. Its a brilliant coaster. Great to have something like it in the UK.
It’s a good ride. Ejects you into the floater sections with lateral forces similar to Zadra.
Give it the ol’ B&M pre drop Lol
i rode this on both opening days and it was absolutely worth the wait! hyperia is front row ride (despite what others might say) and is easily the best coaster in the uk! its so exciting to have in my home park
When i rided it they say the train will leave in 45 seconds with or without you, great operations!
I don't realize that this was el tororyan until the Block zones
Best description the issue I've heard so far! Thanks for clearing this up!
“and while i still have you lets talk about the rides block zones” YEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
I've been waiting for you to make this video!
Loool that ending was beautiful Ryan! :)
that layout looks absolutely SICK! and the paint scheme is very interesting
Operations on this ride for only being open for a weeks is incredible and made it so I was able to ride 3 times in a single day, while still being able to go on most other things at the park. The wait time isn't even that long compared to other rides, and at most I had to wait about 45 mins from different times of the day. Also the first drop is insane, but the stall towards the end is crazy as well, every single time it looks like it's going to roll back! Definitely the best ride in the UK, only thing setting it back is that they assign seats.
Literally did it today, incredible
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS TO DROP!
Thorpe Park is my home park. I’ve been on Hyperia 5 times now and it’s 100% the best ride in the uk there really is nothing else like it. The first drop is awesome but outer bank is insane! It also just looks awesome from wherever you are in the park!
It’s insane, come ride it!
Wake up babe, ElToroRyan Posted
I visited London for a month, and the only day I could squeeze in Thorpe Park was the Saturday before Hyperia's scheduled opening. I was sad to miss the opening, but after this whole issue... I was very glad I went when I did!
Insane ride. Like nothing else. A bit rough in the middle of the train, but insane from start to finish. Love it.
It's an amazing ride, super smooth and intense. I have it fighting for second with Ride To Happiness, and just behind Zadra
If B&M or Intamin opened a ride with the same layout as Hyperia, everyone would complain about length and call it a rip off. That’s just a fact.
people have complained about length of hyperia for a while now, have you not come across anyone doing that?
People have been moaning about the length since the exact microsecond plans became available to the public.
I have heard 0 complaints about length.
@@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 you're not paying attention then.
Hyperia is on another level, the drop is one of if not the best i've been on, the outer bank turn is unreal. Although it looks slow through the elements, it doesn't once you're on the ride!
one of my school friends has ridden it and he said his hands were up the entire time and he was out of his seat the entire time, I'm still awaiting my trip in October for scarefest and grab a few night rides, I'm super excited
Very interesting, thanks 😊
Stoked you made a video about my local park. I rode hyperia last friday and its easily in my top 5. I was lucky to get the god seat (rear right). Its intense, fast, and paced really well. Each element is unique and it makes for an amazing coaster.
Living About an Hour From Thorpe park, i finaly managed to ride the coaster last week (Fun fact it was my 200th cred) And having ridden coasters in the states double it's size, it's still an absolute winner, stupidly fun, in any row, Thrope & MACK Have made a Winning coaster, best in the UK For Sure.
Since the last incident it has been running fine, consistently. Hope to get on it for the first time this weekend.
Hyperia is amazing. Rode it opening day, it blew me away
Hyperia is mega IMO. on a similar level to IG in terms of elements and pacing :D
Was at the park for both opening days and its just a magical ride, fly over here soon !
I rode it three times right after it reopened in June. It was great - the stall goes on foreverrrrrrr and was the highlight of the ride for me. It was unfortunate that they wouldn’t allow you to wait for a row. My rides were in the middle of the train, but I wanted to experience the drop from the back. I think that riding in the back probably makes it an elite experience! Going over that drop in the back row looks similar to how Top Thrill 2 feels going over its top hat.
The outer bank is wild, too, because your body really wants you to go one way but then you go another.
Hyperia is my number 2 coaster behind Zadra, and it truly is a special ride for the UK. It's not quite as ejector filled as you'd expect, but the airtime is incredibly sustained, much more so than anything else I've experienced. Definitely get yourself down to ride it if you can!
Ride looks AWESOME!!!
It definitely feels like they cheaped out on Hyperia. The ops are dispatching about once every 90 seconds (50 seconds of station time 40 seconds of faff)- with the brake situation they can't do much better than 800pph.
If it ran three trains, even with the endlessly slow transition through the brakes, they'd be able to hit 1200 as a realistic figure - still maintaining their station dispatch time. I do not know why this ride has only two trains.
Park nowadays never run too tight on block, arguably due to stricter safety standard like loading SOP or even the brake run on this thing. Running 3 train will make the 3rd train stuck on lift hill everytime crew can't dispatch it quickly
The only major theme park that push super tight block zone is either Disney or Universal. And the only latest coaster outside those two park and run super tight is Voltron, another Mack
Because it only has 3 block zones
@@bocahdongo7769 Europapark is also crazy with capacity. All of the bigger coasters have a theoratical capacity of 1200-1600
@@no1segate606 not capacity, but more of how they utilize the block zone.
Like playing NL2/Planco, you can run 8 train on 9 block zone and crank down the dispatch time close to the limit. But any deviation would make the coaster jam and throw error. It's still safe ofc, but who like to stuck on MCBR anyway instead of just going.
@@bocahdongo7769 oh I see what you mean. Yeah they could have but it seems like the budget allowed for either a record breaking coaster or for a coaster with more blocks and trains 😅
Great video, thanks for the insight! Loved the ride but surprisingly bouncy rattley feel for a new coaster. Only got to try row 2&4 need to return for the back row!
it is so good i was speachless
Most roller coasters that would have this issue deal with it by having a short and shallow drop immediately following the chain ending. This is followed by a short section of track that allows the train to get off of the chain without causing much stress. Look at Indiana Beach's Hoosier Hurricane to see an example of this.
There are other ways of dealing with the stress, but this is the most common for big roller coasters that use a chain lift. Unfortunately for Hyperia, this would require a complete redesign of the first drop.
Or you can speed up the chain like B&M eventually did
Your explanation of there only being one chain dog in the front car made Hyperia look even better than I thought it was. Thanks for posting!
We rode on the reopening day, June 12, lucking out completely since it was the only day on our trip to the UK to ride it. First I have to give a lot of credit to the crew running the ride that day as they were pumping out trains and you could tell with how quickly the line was moving. We got in 3 rides that day, and it was well worth it! Yes you will want to get out there and ride this! It definitely has one of the best 1st drops on any coaster especially in the back with the ejector/spiral you get! Every element was great especially that high opposite banked turn and the drop out of it! So glad we were able to get on it!
Going on my birthday on the 6th so excited hopefully crowds will be less but I won’t hold my breath! This is on the top of my bucket list it looks a bit short but who knows the park can always extend the layout if they want to or think it will bring in more crowds hopefully they will
I live about 45 min away from thorpe park and I can say that out of all of the rides I've been on it is the best
I’ve ridden this and I took full advantage of the 14.9sec of airtime. The drop in will try to kick you outta the seat…, let it and enjoy the free fall.
Best coaster I’ve ever ridden 😎
I can say for a fact that the drop is a phenomenal experience that is unlike anything else I’ve ridden. It’s worth riding Hyperia just for the drop.
I’ve only ridden uk roller coaster s but the back row on hyperia is unexplainable the first drop id the best as you fully get flung over with immense airtime across the rest of the ride its crazy
Yessssss. What a 4th of July gift
I love the chain dog sound!!!
That is an odd issue but at least the got it fix so kudos to mack and Thorpe park for their dedication.
Happy 4th of July eltororyan
I went on the opening weekend, so was at the park when i found it it was closed.
Was my first time visiting thorpe so every ride was a new ride for me and it wasn't the end of the world.
Went back and have now ridden it! It's epic. Also better in the back row than the front IMO
Geez. That first drop looks beautiful.
I rode hyperia on opening day in the afternoon and was amazed at how quick the dispatches were. The queue was meant to be a 2.5 hour wait but I waited just under 2 hours and was constantly moving - that first drop is insane, and I’ve been on Kingda ka
Outerbank is insane 😮 loved this ride, a 1 of a kind 😊
Whenever you get to visit the UK you should make it a small run of UK parks; here are the top parks to visit first in my mind:
Thorpe Park
Alton Towers
Blackpool Pleasure Beach (for Icon)
Flamingo Land (hugely underrated park and world class zoo, 9 adult creds!)
Thorpe Park need to test the ride daily wit( water dummies in order to avoid any more rollbacks. Hyperia wasn’t meant to roll back unlike Stealth at the same park. I’m hoping they can manage this well and can ensure a smooth operating life for Hyperia. Your video was very explanatory and good by the way so thanks.
I traveled to England from the US to ride Hyperia, but it was closed when I went on 5/25 due to the chain lift and closed on 6/19 because it valleyed. I never got to ride it. 😢
rode Hyperia on opening day. Everything about this ride is just absolutely phenomenal! Easily the best coaster in the UK!
I think Ryan has obsessive compulsions to talk about block zones🤣 All jokes man keep up the amazing videos.
It’s the work of Mrs. Thompson. Geoffrey’s spirit is out for it.
I was at Thorpe Park the day before the rollback, and they definitely did the morning test runs with water ballast in the front 2 cars of the train (maybe more). As for the ride itself, it's very different from other hypers I've ridden - the outer-banked turns are superb for airtime, and the hangtime in the stall inversion is great too. It's not a long ride, but it's excellent while it lasts.
mack just builds coasters with the ideas we all thought might be cool as kids, like the first drop with everything else is just crazy
EXTRA BLOCK ZONE CONTENT ON THE 4TH!
Due to the duration of the ride itself, they lengthened the brake section to let the train slowly roll down to give the station staff more time to dispatch the train in the station.
I rode it first on opening day once it was amazing, the first drop was probably the best giving airtime all the way till the bottom in the back row, sadly, since it reopened and when I rode it again, the seats closer to the back got a noticeable rattle to it but it’s still an amazing and comfortable though.
Thank you so much for providing the information that Thorpe and Mack are refusing to. They both have absolutely no logical reason to withhold the alleged lift hill polymer problem from the public. Especially as it’s not a safety flaw with the ride.
A 3D block zone diagram?!?! Wow, this is really a treat!
Happy Independence Day Ryan!!
IRON GWAZI in Tampa also has that multiple clacking sound when the trains are heading over the top of the lift hill. It is very noticeable. But it seems like they build the best rides overseas.
RMC always has 2 chain dog even on their 1st Gen train
You do really need to come and ride it, it is incredible! Also it slows down towards the top of the lift hill now so maybe that is due to the issue you mentioned?
Ryan you should definitely get over here and ride it. Alton Towers and Blackpool Pleasure Beach would also be great for you. But I'm biased on BPB as it's my local park...
I’ve ridden 9 times and omg, plus opening day was a vibe
There is also the issue of it valleying in the morning test runs. Basically they discovered that the more weight on of the people in the actual cars the smoother and faster it runs, so when people ride it, it doesn’t have this valleying issue. But in the morning test runs they weren’t filling the dummy’s all the way up but what they thought was a good enough weight, some tests were done with weight of the cars with the dummy’s and I believe people (park employees and engineers) on and off track which is when the weight thing was found. Now when they test run it in the morning the dummy’s are filled higher to fit a more realistic weight of when the public use it and they haven’t had the issue since.. or at least that is what several employees have told enthusiast.
That first drop is such a trick!
There are dozens of different grades/types of UHMW. This is a very minor issue to deal with.
There it is……The Block Zone 🤣. The Block Zone Boy should be ElToroRyans new name.
Was there on the day it closed, little did i know what would come
been at thorpe park the last two days, i think they were running it closer to 1050pph than 820, literally disney/universal level operations (also get out to thorpe it's incredible, iron gwazi/velocicoaster level ride)
I’d really like to see you make a video explaining how a ride crew deals with a valleyed train. Seeing the clip in this vid made me wonder. Thanks!
Rode this 2 days ago was insane well worth it 👌
Honestly I'm happy that the broader engineering of the ride wasn't the problem and the real issue was *checks notes* ...material science? Yeah that is a weird one