"Il Trovatore" (A Coruña, 2015). Angela Meade. "Tacea la notte..." OSG/Wilson
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- "Il Trovatore", Temporada Lírica de A Coruña 2015
Angela Meade, soprano
Marianne Cornetti, mezzo... Azucena
Gregory Kunde, tenor...Manrico
Juan Jesús Rodríguez, barítono
Dmitry Ulyanov, bajo
Sinfónica de Galicia. Keri-Lynn Wilson, directora musical
Mario Pontiggia, director de escena
Nueva Producción de Amigos de la Ópera de A Coruña
Septiembre, 2015.
Incredibile! una vera voce, bravissima!
The pianissimo is gorgeous
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Incredible Ms Meade, incredible! That breath support is out of this world!!!
Fantastic power and flexible too!
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@@vincec8218 thanks. Will do xx
Man ! This is my favorite opera of the composer. I just wish they could find a soprano who can f'ing Sing It !!
Check out Spanish soprano Saoia Hernandez. She's an incredible dramatic soprano. One of the best out there right now in my opinion.
La voce e senza colore,senza belezza,con una intozione bassissima.E queso una amorosa Leonora?Sorry🤣
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This role is for a dramatico d’Agilita and not for a dramatic coloratura.
She lacks chestvoice and her colour is not that of a dramatic soprano’s.
The tremolo in her voice is less noticeable now than earlier.
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I love the fat soprano's, noone sounds better !!! Bring back the fat sopranos on the opera stages!
Nonsense. It's all about technique and dedication, not one's weight. The greatest sopranos of past decades were never very fat like Angela Meade. Just look some pictures of the early prime years of Freni, Nilsson, Olivero, Rysanek, Sills, Sutherland, Schwarzkopf, Scotto or even earlier Patti, Galli-Curci, Nordica, Melba, Lehmann. They were anything but fat and sang better than any fat soprano of these days.
There is no fat shaming in claiming that any artist must be valued for how they sing, act and interpret music, and not by how they look (thin or fat, beautiful or ugly, whatever). It's ridiculous to try to claim that "fat singers always sing better than the thin ones" as if that were some kind of compliment. You're effectively saying that they are great because they are fat and such a body supposedly improves their singing - and NOT because they have a great technique and a natural talent. Do you want to be prized because you're an excellent professional or because you're overweight? Being fat should never be a problem to a real artist, and it's a huge shame that people make obstacles to good singers just because of their looks - but first of all the core issue should be whether the performer is very gifted or not, regardless of their body or face.
I'm pretty sure people who are fat want to be acknowledged because they have a great individual talent that is all of their own and not simply attached to their weight/body mass. They are to be valued if and because each of them are unique in their talents - and not just because they are part of a supposed and nonexistent category of "better-voiced fat singers". If you do that, you're still focusing on their weight as if they are first and foremost "fat people", and not musical artists, even if the original aim was to be flattering to them. These performers are great because they are great, not because they are overweight or obese and that supposedly renders them better singers. Now that would be a really inconvenient comment.
And, yes, I just said that obesity was less prominent among the general population (that's an objective fact, there are data all around) - and that of course is also reflected in the population of opera singers. I never said anything about "overweight singers" - my comment was specifically about "very fat" singers. They were a minority, anyone can prove that for themselves. Look at dozens of the most famous divas of 40 or 60 years ago and tell me the majority of them were very obese (not just overweight, but obese). That isn't good nor bad, it's just a fact of our modern times.
Your criticism towards me is so shallow that I can't even bother getting angry at such obvious lack of interpretation skills and narrow-mindedness. You should chill out a bit, because nobody in their right mind believes stupid curses any longer these days, and your unbalanced anger will only cause harm to you yourself, not to anyone else.
Isn't it already obvious what I meant? Did you even read what comment my first answer was replying to? I was disagreeing with the claim that "no one sounds better than fat sopranos". That's just not objectively true and also sounds prejudiced as hell. That comment also implied that opera singers in the past sang better just because they were fatter, which is again not true, because both in the past and right now there were great opera singers of all shapes and sizes. Also, when I said virtually no one of the great divas of the past were "that fat" (yes, I admit that was a rhetoric exaggeration, considering that there were at least Caballé and a few others), I was obviously comparing with Angela Meade, who is undeniably obese, not just overweight.
Before getting into a conversation to spread hatred and anger, make sure you first understood the context and the specific meaning of what was said, lest you come off as a hysterical person that has the guts to feel offended by some comment yet has no problem at all with cursing and shaming other people in a much more personal and direct way.
Now, if you also believe that, don't throw me the victim card, because you're the only one here judging the talent, technique and value of an operatic performer based on how much they weight, even if in that case your aim is to compliment people who are overweight or obese.
I simply stated, providing several examples of past opera divas that you can look up for yourself, that there is no strictly observed correlation at all between being fat and singing better than "no one" else. It's simply a matter of natural gift, dedication and the right technique, that's all. Now if you're so worried , that's your problem. I couldn't care less how much this or that singer weighs or how pretty he or she looks, that's irrelevant.
But of course you must have feel offended by the mere possibility that being overweight per se has nothing to do with a ludicrous kind of "compensation" for singing so much better than anyone else, and that in fact one's weight may simply be a very secondary or even irrelevant thing to some music lovers, who just care about how well you can sing.
Now this discussion is over. You're clearly not prepared to discuss subjects like this one without making it too personal and treating someone who disagrees with you as some kind of enemy that should preferably be destroyed. How "poor little victim" of you.
I didn't say you stated that no one sounds better than fat singers. I wasn't even talking to you in my 1st comment here, my dear. My comment was directed to a user named Connor MacLeod, who said exactly this: "I love the fat soprano's, noone sounds better !!! Bring back the fat sopranos on the opera stages!". That's what my 1st answer was about, not anything you said, because you hadn't even written anything in this comment section. Now, if you really believe that, like in BLM, you are not "trying to say something they are the superior ones", then why on earth are you mad because I disagreed with someone who explicitly stated that fat singers are necessarily better than the others? You don't sound very coherent. Sorry, my dear, but as much as I support that people see exclusively musical talent, and not looks, when they hire opera singers, I won't resort to lies in order to protect and support them. Lying is never a good option.
I just said THE GREATEST sopranos of the past generations were not AS FAT AS Angela Meade yet they could sing even better than her, so it is OBJECTIVELY FALSE to make a correlation between being fat and singing better, which is what that user Connor MacLeod had assumed when he said that "no one sounds better than fat sopranos".
That was just false, and I had to stress that among the greatest and most famous sopranos of past decades virtually none of them (probably except for Caballé) were as obese as Angela Meade. They were great regardless of their shape or size. In Opera you have always had the Dessay and the Caballé, the Lily Pons and the Gertrude Grob-Prandl. Well, and if you think it's "body shaming" to say Angela Meade is obese, that may only reflect the very negative view you must have about being an obese person as if that were some kind of moral judgement from me, and not merely and objective physical description. If you weren't conditioned to think that saying someone is obese implies some kind of awful guilt and shame, that obesity is linked to some kind of moral evaluation or individual worth, you'd have no problem with just accepting the truth: someone is thin, someone is fat, and life goes on.
It's just ludicrous to say "sopranos who look like dolls" can't be perfectly healthy and full of stamina to sing opera well. That's a physiological matter, a much more complex one, and nobody's talking about anorexic people here, but merely about people who may be gifted regardless of whether they have overweight or not. You're exaggerating because that makes this discussion more convenient for you, as if we were talking about anorexic top models, and not merely about a vast number of great sopranos who just were not very fat. That's the crux of the matter: you don't have to be fat to "sing better than no one else". And it seems you yourself agree with me, but at the same time somehow you think it's offensive to point that out.
The comment that elicited so much hatred from you was never about the opera singers as a whole, but just literally, VERBATIM "the greatest sopranos of past decades". Nor in any moment did I make any "fat shaming" as you claimed while spitting curses onto me. So, I think someone has reading comprehension issues and it is not I. Bye!
Henry Carey
Let me start by saying I AM FAT! Objectively obese. It is not fat shaming to point out something that is fact. People aren’t blind.
Homoclassicus was NOT fat shaming anyone. He said in essence that just because someone is fat doesn’t make them a superior singer and he’s absolutely right. He also said that Most of the Stars and PrimaDonnas of the last hundred years were not fat and sang better than today’s fat singers. That is 100% a fact. He did not denigrate anyone for their size or extra pounds. Saying that Meade is obese is fact, it’s obvious and is not fat shaming. He never once said that she couldn’t sing BECAUSE OF her weight. As a matter of fact the only one sounding like a complete raving lunatic is you.
He pointed out that there is NO correlation between size and a great voice. He is again absolutely correct. You’re being an overly sensitive and dense idiot.
Do you even know what it means to fat shame? The act of making fun of or mocking someone who is overweight based solely on their size.
He did not engage in mockery of someone because of their weight, he said someone’s weight had little to no effect with the quality of their singing. Helloooo! That’s the opposite of fat shaming. Go drink something and sit down.
You know I didn’t hate her voice here...
Leonora is as big as the moon behind her. Her publicity photo indicates she wishes to be thinner.
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