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00:00 Build & Sim
10:55 Steel Path Run - Hry
I am definitely in favor of switching to netracells, or at least mixing it in with taveuni. That's more representative of the higher difficulty/aspirational content of today.
Loved your titanfall videos. Wish ea didn't kill the franchise
@@M0N573R11 Goated game, EA is just happy with leeching off of Apex these days
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FROTHY! Goated titanfall streamer wow
I like the idea of netracells as a benchmark for how well a warframe is a doing content.
I used to not like to watch the sp runs after the build breakdown, but I started watching when I realized you tend to talk a lot more about how different mechanics work.
You go into more detail about your reasoning behind why you take your builds in the direction you do.
Its very informative and helpful.
I am in favor of swapping to Netracells, but I'd only do it from the release of your 2024 tierlist onwards, so that all of the builds up to that point are beholden to the same standard. From then on you can (and should) swap to a new standard - that being Netracells - for the eventual 2024 refreshes.
Your title made me imagine what incarnons for frames would do to the game, and it's something I hope never gets added
If Wally has his way with the Origin System, then the only way we have is to give our Normal and Prime Frames the Extra Void Touch...
Yeah, frame incarnons much like frame rivens is something I hope is never brought into the game.
@@spacerewriter they would completely ruin enemy scaling and mess up the experience for new players. If so it should only be available for legend players and certain high level missions that only legend players can do for end game content with higher enemy levels
That and warframe rivens, and now i see what archon shards kinda are
Excalibur Umbra? nah, Excalibur Incarnon!
Carpal tunnel: the frame, my beloved. Atlas used to be my favorite frame, until my finger fell off from pressing "1" too much. Would be nice if they... did something... about that.......
laughing at how the acolyte was on screen for 10 frames before being shot into space through ten fortified fortress walls
I just came back after an almost 7 year break. Atlas was my previous main, started maining kullervo after defaulting back to your builds, LITERALLY just built my prime for my boi AND just caught up to angels and whispers and u post this. Love it ❤❤❤
Edit: also I use mwheeldown for his skill 1, always have
Things that would help your Atlas build(s) tremendously:
- Path of Statues removes most of the need for energy economy and/or range in your Rubble Heap build. The two augment mods feed into one-another super well, and Path of Statues is also impacted by Ore Gaze. In this same point, you could fill that helminth slot for something fun like Roar, Terrify, Gloom or Pillage (some of which also benefit from the added damage mods in the place of the energy economy mods you no longer need lol).
- Magus Anomaly is a suitable way to gather enemies for petrification if you didn't use mod slots on range. It works best with the density of enemies found in SP missions. The Nautilus sentinel with Cordon also works I guess.
- Molt Augmented and Arcane Fury both work as damage buffs if you like that build route. Additionally, if you don't have an Incarnon stat stick, Arcane Avenger is still the way to go.
- Other Incarnon stat sticks like the base Magistar or the SIbear have similar, and in some cases better, overall output than the Ceramic Dagger, due to their similar crit damage/chance AND their synergy with Magus Aggress' (bugged) proc damage with heavy blades and hammers. It's also far easier to get rivens for the likes of those other weapons, since the Ceramic Dagger is in FAR higher demand.
- Reducing range in your build (strangely) increases your invulnerability time, since you have to dash again to the enemies your explosive landslide hits don't reach, and that increases the up-time of invulnerability overall.
- Panser Vulpaphyla is a huge buff to your survivability and damage with the right mod setup (including the likes of Tenacious Bond, Viral Quills, Panzer Devolution, Link Fiber, Hunter Recovery, Pack Loader, Tek Assault, Martyr Symbiosis), and the use of Bite can enhance the crit damage of Landslide. It's probably a good companion combo for most stat stick users.
- Violet or crimson Archon Shards are also a fun way to ramp up critical damage, especially if you add (Primed) Flow to your frame config.
The damage output and survivability with the tweaks above can help Atlas survive far longer than the build in the video, and deal hundreds of millions, sometimes billions of damage in a single punch to SP enemies.
I never comment but this guy here knows stuff
path of statues seems to be remarkably inconsistent at petrifying the target you're actually punching and i don't know how you're consistently getting it to hit multiple enemies on the way to your target - also it really doesn't appear to actually give you enough rubble per kill to reach the 1400 threshold before your energy hits 0 at lower enemy density
@@ecbrd8478 It's simple, punch a single time (preferably a long distance), backtrack to the start of the path of statues AoE it leaves, then use Magus Anomaly to group enemies into it. You should only have to do this 1-2 times on SP to get to 1,500 rubble, typically in less than the first 35-45 seconds of a mission.
Side notes: Path of Statues is less consistent if you're not host, and jumping before dashing to a target will petrify them if you don't immediately kill them.
In before someone complains that technically, the non sancti magister incarnon is better for atlas because it gives a larger crit chance bonus.
I still prefer my ceramic dagger
Also the added bonus of the (albeit, bugged) Magus Aggress proc strategy that only works for a handful of Incarnon stat sticks like Magistar/Sibear. This build is barely even the tip of the iceberg for Atlas' potential dmg output
Really appreciate the "showcasing this build after nourish nerf". Additionally, definitely in favour of switching to netracells (or at least the mix of the two)!^^
Always love to see a Brozime build vid. If the frame has something to show off in netracells then that would be nice to show off, but I feel like there are definitely some frames that are better shown off in regular SP survival.
That being said, you might consider doing a run in whatever endgame mission a frame is best in.
I HAVE YET TO EVEN GET PAST THE INTRO, BUT I WILL NOT WAIT ANY LONGER TO SAY BLESS YOU ZIME FOR THE NEW ATLAS BUILD 🙏
For people who don't want to deal with making a bind to spam, I'd recommend binding use selected ability to scrolling the mouse wheel. It's obviously not as good, but it's a decent way to not destroy your finger
15:20 the delivery of "there he goes!" cracks me up
Brozime maybe you're aware but when playing on controller with the default button layor, once you use an ability if you tap the left bumper (rather than holding it down for the ability tab) it will cast whatever was the previous ability to be casted. So it's something.
Another quality of life I’d like to see for Atlas is better upkeep for his Rubble. There are a few ways this could happen and it doesn’t really need a lot to make it happen. But currently you lose rubble way to easily and quickly if you’re not actively building it and even taking a single point of health damage can mean you’re not actively building it as the rubble will always prefer to heal you over increasing your rubble. Aside from that and the quality of life mentioned in the video, I’d say Atlas is in a really good place overall, but only because of the incarnon stat sticking. I agree that stat sticking in all varieties feels bad, but to remove that would require having separately moddable abilities for the psuedo exalted abilities as well as a base increase for all of the psuedo exalted abilities. Atlas being the most notable because his entire playstyle is centered around it, whereas other frames like Khora and Gara have other things going for them if their psuedo exalted is made meaningless.
I use wrathful advance on him in case I don't get a good stat stick for the circuit. It helps that you get an energy top off every time you pick a decree.
How well does it work on him? Does landslide red crit?
@@undeadinside3571 yes land slide red crits. Since it's an additive crit like Avenger you just need to build into power since at base it will only get yellow crits with the occasional orange.
So i've been playing atlas in steel path for a couple of years now and i have a bunch of optimizations/minmaxing (or rather other options) for him.
1: If you can get a combo of toxin + radiation on your melee it will help with literally any enemy that matters (As long as you run a melee exposure of any rank) since it will allow atlas to punch through any kind of armor and just delete corpus.
2: Keep in mind that once you activate rubble heap, your energy needs go down significantly, so stay focused on keeping that thing active.
3: If you have enough energy regen through other means such as energize and amber archon shards (i know they are shit, but it's enough), I HIGHLY suggest subsuming wrathful advance instead of nourish if you like big numbers. (I mean ~70 mil vs armored units w/o armor strip.)
4: Don't play atlas vs infested. It's by far the worst faction for him and the most annoying to fight in general. (But at this point who fights infested anymore, amirite?)
That's it, for the moment and if I remind myself of anything i'll edit this comment.
Happy fisting everyone!
I'd add to the list that Ceramic Dagger isn't necessarily the best stat-stick choice for this build, in particular with a Wrathful Advance setup. Incarnon Magistar may give a bit less CC in comparison, but adds +1 base crit damage multiplier, which is absolutely huge. Added bonus is that it's a hammer, so Magus Aggress will work for an additional 300% CD on top of this (and, yes, it does work with landslide), leaving Ceramic Dagger in the dust.
Honestly, I'd like it if they made the pseudo-exalted into actual exalted.
It'd make it so much weaker tho if DE wouldn't greatly buff crit and status as well on it
I like the consistency of the regular steel path test.
The Build is great, the fashion, absolutely amazing
another good subsume (especially if you don't have an adequate incarnon stat stick) is Wrathful Advance.
Seeing how well the build does without the strength/post nerf, I'll probably swap Secrets for Ore Gaze. Just for a bit more resources as well as energy orbs to make up for the casting of petrifying and nourish.
aiming spam abilities actually pretty nice on controller, can just spam R1 to recast leaving thumb with the normal amount of control.
It would be cool to see some netracells here and there, also thanks for the guide as always
i feel like atlas would be better if his 2 and 4 was a hold/tap and rumblers scaled based of of the current level of enemies, hold to summon rumblers and tap to become the rumbler. while a rumbler taking damage generates rubble(even when pawnching) while giving you a little extra damage resistance (scaling off strength). and his 2 would be a large wall of rock (that players can phase through but not enemies) instead of a tiny little baby gate of a wall when tapped and when held it creates a circular wall of rock where you're crosshair is to trap enemies or even create a defensive barrier around something.
Thanks for putting this out there! As someone who really enjoys Atlas I'll take anything to help make him better. I'm returning after not playing for about a year or two and don't have a single incarnon weapon yet so I guess I know what I'm about to start working on😅.
Hey, the ceramic dagger is in the Nightwave cred offerings store right now, for the next few days. I would grab that asap, if you don’t already own it.
Also, ceramic dagger incarnon adapter should rotate back around in a few weeks.
Thanks for the tip, but I do have regular ceramic dagger. Will it be sufficient until I'm able to get the incarnon? I was under the impression that it had to be incarnon.
@@CelticShaman. It’s mainly the incarnon that makes it a must have. Without it, it’s basically any other melee weapon in that slot as they can all equip the same mods.
Thank you for participating in and furthermore ensuring yet another nerf 😂
Yeeees! Netracells runs would be cool.👍
Melee Exposure is really clever!
I loved Ceramic Atlas before Melee Arcanes were a thing, and this is just a straight buff! :o
(Also, yes other Incarnons work as a stat stick as well, but not having to worry about falling to too low combo to kill stuff is a huge benefit of Ceramic)
Idk about PS but on Xbox we can just use right bumper to trigger the selected ability, L and R on the d-pad switch abilities through transference too, like starting from one, press R, it’s on 2nd, again, 3rd and the fifth time you hit R it’ll have transference selected.
I've never really cared about Atlas until he out damaged everyone in the squad by like 90% during a circuit run. Im so glad i decided to look up an Atlas guide because HOLY SHIT is he fun to destroy EVERYTHING in your path with.
I wish there was impact/collision damage for enemies thrown against objects and it was treated as raw damage. Itll give a weapon like sampotes way more respect.
ONE PUNNNNNNN~~~~
Rhino should get one of these too, Reinforcing Stomp is crazy strong now. Plus Green Shards with full powered Roar and nourish.
Run a phantasma prime with that setup for max effect 😭
What do green shards help rhino with?
Armor strip
I agree with the Netracell run when it seems like it wouldnt be a headache, give you more options so you arent just running the same mission every time
I will never get into playing Atlas until they decouple stat sticks. It just feels awful having to invest and equip a dead weight melee that is not even always an option with some game mode restrictions. On top of all the weird mechanical bits between the two separate weapon and ability like combo while in mission. At least some frames like baruuk it can ignore stat sticks and still get pretty good results, but it is actually the number one thing I wish DE would do something about.
You can set fire weapon to mouse wheel up and spam it easier.
Netracells as a testing ground would be pretty cool, updated environment and enemies would be a welcome change to the in-mission test section in my opinion. I just wonder if enemy density would be a problem.
I think netracells would be a good idea. I personally find one of the biggest hangups with my builds is surviving an encounter with a steelpath or netracell voidrig
I want a brozime fashion frame series immediately
So if you’re able to fix Atlas’ energy economy in other ways, I highly recommend to switch the Nourish Helminth out for Wrathful Advance Helminth to get your crit chance that way and to use the Dual Ichor for the incarnon stat stick. This will give Atlas great crit and status chance which, with the proper melee mods, will allow him to utilize damage over time or other status procs to help amplify his damage all the more. In casual play, I often run a gas/cold setup with melee exposure to add corrosive damage. This build is capable of mowing through the steel path circuit with ease (should you be lucky enough to get both atlas and this incarnon in the same rotation). However, if you’re taking him against high level corpus, I recommend using a pure toxin setup with the same melee arcane.
netracells/the dante farm on steel path I feel are the two most commonly run difficult missions ran anymore, I think.
+1 to netracells. I imagine the debuffs may not make all frames viable, but for the ones that it DOES work for, it would be a nice thing to see since it showcases other strengths like agility as well.
Running Wrathful Advance helmith guarantees the punch crit and more dmg can be added to stat stick.
Wrecks his energy economy unfortunately and isn’t worth it vs the stat stick unless you just don’t have one imo
13:15 Man how sick would it be to turn him into a Fighting Game character with fucking juggles and comboing. God i'd love that for an Atlas rework
Eh, that's kinda how Lift was advertised and that did not go well. If only lifted opponents wouldn't get flung around by successive melee hits, then we'd have something to work with
@@S0M3GUY778Or, like any strong fighting game character, have CONSISTENT hit reactions. Having to adjust on the fly is fine, but having horribly wild physics makes it impossible.
For those new on controller who want to try this build or similar ones quickly tapping just the ability button "R1" you will recast the last ability you preformed keep in mind that transferring to your tenno/operator counts as a ability. Ex input : R1+X , R1, R1, R1
Is Primed Heavy Trauma ever a consideration for Atlas' melee?
Yes, in fact, it's a great addition in-place of a riven.
Does landslide count for Lycanths hunt? you could probably use that and Equilibrium if you wanted to avoid using Nourish
I’d actually love the netracell idea
Another option for PC folks is to change your "use selected ability" keybind to something more comfy. I personally set mine to scroll wheel down, so on frames like khora and atlas I can just press 1 once, then scroll down to spam 1 more
Now this feels like the frame that beat a meteor
I actually have a keybind that recasts my last used ability on one of my mouse buttons, feels a lot better than mashing 1
Oh I just have the macro bound to my mouse that repeat spams it when I hold it
Tapping R1 on Playstation recasts the last ability used, so you don't have to mash X, and actually get camera controls. But yeah, let me hold the ability and get Smash Dash.
Netracells sound fun, but I enjoy either!
NEW VID FINALLLLYYYY
For the issue with having to spam 1 to use landslide, I have make a request on the forums for auto-recast while held for abilities.
I think a switch to netucells for builds/frames that can handle it since it is a more specialized mode would be a good change since that is the mode that people I think are more interested in seeing stuff preform in. I know that I would like to see it atleast.
I'd like to see an Oberon netracell build, I've seen him pop up there a few times in random squads and he seems to do okay.
Nice to see my name in the thumbnail 😂 Need to play him more tbh.
I don’t have Avenger or a Melee Incarnon, so I put in Wrathful Advance and it’s really awesome seeing Landslide hit red crits.
Still annoying having to spam two abilities, but hey, whadda gonna do?
On my Atlas for the arcane slots i put both r5 arcane fury and avenger would those not he the way to go?
Is there a world where Atlas uses Dorrclave instead for the 100% flat status? I also wish his 1 just auto targeted like slash dash
If youd like to still do steel path survival for at the end i think changing it to the lvl 200 conjunction survival might be better than the kuva fortress. higher lvl and has more enemy types.
ive been running a 'lowest usage' build and it happens to be normal atlas and darksplit sword for melee. it has been a struggle to get a build to work in SP, but I think it can clear. the other weapons are carmine penta and detron. they are mostly useless. i've used this loadout enough that atlas came second in my year in review stats to my volt p in first...
This makes me wish they would just replace / kill off stat sticks
I'm your opinion would purple shards be worth it?
Brozime’s Fashion Frame never misses…
Such an underrated frame. As a
N Atkas main however, this build can be much better. Use the Rauta for its passive (stacks with ceramic) and switch bless for r5 avenger for those juicy crits, and switch steel charge for discipline so your 12x multi never moves
So on playstation ( go na assume the same on other consoles) once I cast an ability I can double tap r1 and it recasts . So with that in mind this play style may not be terrible
im having issues geting enough energy to even build up rubble to a point where landslide is free
Is atlas’s 1 counted as a finisher? Cause I have a really good +crit chance +crit damage -finisher damage riven on my ceramic dagger and I wanna know if it’s worth using
Nope, it is not considered a finisher ❤
Where would i put ore gaze if i wanted to farm drops
W purple archon shardihit 136 mil the other day w out ceramic dagger incarn activated an no teammate buffs using nourish. While running ore gaze. Lol.
If they remove stat sticking I hope it comes with the ability to mod the stat sticked abilities
I’d totally watch doing netracells
How does the rubble part go up so quick?
That acolyte kill 💀
We need to be able to put our own ultimate traits/powers on weapons.
I got to agree that stat sticks should not be a thing. For me, it was very confusing to find out that stat sticks actually are a thing, and a critical thing too for dealing good damage. The mechanics are also puzzling what with some mods affecting the ability, and others not. It's not something you can find out from the game itself. I learned about it from the wiki.
I reckon that the best way to get rid of stat sticks is to a) ban all of these bonusses from weapons affecting abilities. And b) turn each of these pseudo exalted weapons into true exalted weapons. Atlas' fists, Khora's Whip, Gara's Lash, if they were upgraded into exalted weapons people could mod them just the way they mod their stat sticks now. Except now it's a clear and obvious thing within the game itself.
I would love to see you do netracells instead of survival
Regarding using netracells as a test environment, I would say stick to steel path survival since that's basically a standard way to compare frames.
Also relating to the hold 1, that would be nearly impossible for console players to function with, so DE probably wants to avoid that.
About arcane avenger, why not both?
I don't watch the in mission stuff because I trust you, and I know you just need an ad break. The real in mission test would have to be steelpath railjack to show us damage against actual armor. I just spawn lvl 295 sp gorsak heavys and those netracell cobra things, and some sendna trials bosses and those big green spiders from profittaker, and the adds that archons spawn with the belt of jars.
Avenger adds very little after you add base crit and molt augmented is more effective
Just make his 1 go like Excals 1 and it would be fine, and make his 4th similair to Styanaxs but with spectral fists (not that he needs it but it would be cool). as for the dumb wall he has, make that one some passive buff that you turn on, or something that synergises with his rubble, and there, he is amazing
Atlas is one of those frames that are like, the easiest fix of DEs life, because his concept is so easy to be as creative or as lazy as possible while still being fun and strong, plus he has 2 great abilities so that is always a good starting point
Oh man did I read that thumbnail wrong...
you didn't lol
Do you remember the thumbnail scene from pirates of coribian
So they should make his crit and status on his one effected by power strength
Is the next video on Gauss, "I cast Fast"?
Stat stick deletion when DE?
I have replaced Gladiator Rush and Fever Strike for radiation since a lot of enemies are weak to it, and Helios with Diriga in order to instantly put viral on them so they take free double damages. But anyway, I don't play Atlas much because I feel like he has too much holes. Spamming 1 is fun for a few minutes but it's like I'm not playing a complete Warframe. His 2 should be either replaced or get a huge buff, and his 4's buddies are nothing but a taunt for now.
Why do ppl say Magistar is better for atlas specifically?
Zime are you planning on making a roster review for early 2024?
He’s Waiting for Dante release jabroni
he said hes delaying it till after dante release
At some point DE needs to create an exalted slot for frames. I hate modding weapons to exalt my frame because I'd rather be using the weapon throughout the match.
Definitely would prefer seeing it used in netracells
I wonder if Furax Incarnon's 40% bleed proc on impact proc would affect Atlas's landslide? 🤔 Probably not though
It should work afaik, the problem is his status chance is too low to make use of it.
@@mayhemivory5730 Okay. I'm gonna have to do some tests once I get the Furax incarnon
Discord didn't tell me about this Zime
Crit atlas works and is good
I think a grouping ability is better for atlas than nourish then your dont have to run overextend to hit large numbers of enemies
EHEM nautilus
@noahedenborg4221 maybe. I think for him, in particular, it needs to be a little more controlled (nautilus doesn't cast consistently and doesn't always cast when you need it). so either larva or one of the operator options would be better. His fist doesn't have the status chance to take full advantage of nourish or roar for that matter... and what else is he using energy for? Turning enemies to stone is about it...
@@myramedchan4775 u really think hes using noruish to proc viral HA did u forget the retaliation
I prefer Taveuni for the Acolytes.
can you uploaf more😂 i really enjoy your content
Wait. We are allowed to use macros?
what about primed heavy trauma? i thought this mod was made for Atlas.