Not all off-road tires are made equal! Here's why
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Looking for a different set of tires that will hold up to what your lifestyle throws at them? Today Josh breakdown some differences to look for in a new set of tires and why not all tires are created equal. Let me know what tire you guys are thinking about picking up and what your questions are about them in the comments!
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On my USFS truck in western Montana I ran General Grabbers (10 ply) in summer and studded Blizzaks in the winter. The Blizzaks were exceptional winter tires.
Yeah I miss my Blizzaks, I got rid of them about 2 years ago and have regretted it since. 😂
What kills me is ppl who think all season front wheel drive means you can plow through 4 feet of fresh snow.
92 Honda Accord with a 12 pack of labatts ice.
You mean you can't?
My friends and I have used a dodge Aries and Ford escort for what we used to call snow bogging. Always have to test the cars limits 👍😂
I have seen some shit 😂 don't ever doubt 90s Hondas in the snow
My 1992 Honda Accord was a beast
My 2002 Honda Accord not so much
Have been very happy with my Toyo Open Country AT 3's.
My latest 37” tires have been the Mickey Thompson Baja boss at’s… they have been awesome in the snow and I’m coming up to having them for 1 year. I have definitely used them for off-road beside my long drives back and forth for work. I’d say my next favorite at tire is the ko2’s. They definitely gripped well with the snow… just don’t like them so much off road. I have had multiple sets of ridge grapplers. Pretty good all around tire but definitely slipped more in wet/snow conditions.
Same here. Did the rubicon with them. And 6 other badge trails . Great tires
I run Toyo AT-3’s on my Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, Power Wagon, and wife’s Ram 1500 4x4 here in Alaska (Wasilla/Palmer area), and have been very, very impressed with them off road hunting/ camping, and even more impressed how they handle in winter. I have been running them for two years so far. I came from running a K0-2 on all three vehicles, but the Toyo’s actually do better as an all around tire in my experience😎👍
Happy to hear they are performing for you out there in Alaska!
Thank you for this comment I am actually also considering the Toyo open country versus the falcon wild peak specifically for winter use, the general grabber ATX I will vouch for them all day they are great in winter, unfortunately they don’t come in the size that I need for my navigator
@@chrisb-br5nx No problem my friend, just being honest. Alaska will definitely separate the weak from the strong when it comes to testing gear in some of the toughest environments. I loved the KO-2’s, the Toyo’s just happen to be better for this environment where our winters outlast our summers. Good luck with your tire quest, stay safe!😎👍🇺🇸
If you think these work great in snow you’ve never used dedicated snow tires
@@2-1inffwa97 Your point is moot, as the conversation is about all season, all terrain tires that perform well. I have used snow tires many times here in Alaska, Michigan, and Idaho, but I choose to use one tire that performs in various terrain and weather conditions , and drive according to situation. Thanks for the input, stay safe😎👍
I’ve been running KO2’s for years and years I find they have always been dependable as far as off-roading,pretty damn good in snow. The only thing I’ve found is that in the rain they don’t have the best traction. Dedicated winter tire is best and blizzak I find have great traction in snow and ice.
That's good info. I would argue that it's not really twice the cost as you are getting mileage out of the second set as well. Up front cost yes, but overall the same.
Blizzaks on the 4Runner. The K02s did well in fresh powdery snow, but once the road got icy they were dicey!
Love Blizzaks, had them on my setup about 2 years ago and have regretted getting rid of them since!
Bridgestone blizzak LT is an amazing truck tire for winter. Convinced my dad to buy a set for his truck, he goes ice fishing every weekend the season is open up here in Canada. They do amazing on the frozen, snow covered lakes. I would run a set of them if they made them bigger for my lifted truck.
Loved my Blizzak's when I had them! The past two winters have been tough without them sadly.
Toyo at 3 in the snow has been a great tire for me not bad on road and not bad off road either
I agree, I run Toyo At-3’s on my Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, Power Wagon, and wife’s Ram 1500 4x4 here in Alaska (Wasilla/Palmer area), and have been very, very impressed with them off road hunting/ camping, and even more impressed how they handle in winter. I have been running them for two years so far. I came from running a K0-2 on all three vehicles, but the Toyo’s actually do better as an all around tire in my experience😎👍
Good to hear! Always nice when your tires can preform in multiple scenario's!
Down here in the frigid winters of south Florida I run the Toyo AT3s. Few days it dropped into the low 60s high 50s they did well 🤭
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Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S has been the best traction tire for me. The sipes really help it grip.
I run the Falken wildpeak atw3 in a 275/70/18 on a 2013 f-150 fx4. I love them. Beat tire I've found. I live in Oregon. Rain snow ice hot weather. Then I go offroad. Other than red clay they do great
This is an awesome video I am in the middle of trying to decide what the best all-terrain tires are for my rig and this video helps immensely
Glad I could help!
Drove Blizzaks for 15 years in Wyoming winters. Swear by them
Had Blizzaks on my ride 2 years ago and I regret getting rid of them every day in the winter! 😅
Have had Ko2 on my Tacoma for 6 years can't beat them for durability. Never left me stranded.
The KO2s are an incredibly popular tire for us in general and I can 100% see why! I have heard so many people swear by them from past experiences.
@00:24 They can play with the compounds all they want. When a tire has been on the ground for a couple of years, they get HARD regardless and becomes useless in wet summer conditions and winter. My Dura tracs, KO2's all became pretty much useless on my Jeep after about 2 years of road use.
I have found that to be much less the case with winter tires but true of all terrains mud terrains
Thumbs up for Firestone Winterforce tires on passenger cars.
Years ago when my Ford Ranger was down for repairs during the winter, all I had to drive was my rear-wheel drive Thunderbird. It was amazing how much of an improvement a set of Firestone Winterforce tires made. The previous winter with an open diff and all season tires, that car was pretty much useless in any kind of snowy conditions. I could get stuck literally on a patch of ice at a stoplight. A year later with good winter tires, a Torsen LSD, and 120lbs of sand in the trunk, I had so much more confidence to be able to get to work, and in general just get around when Minnesota got nasty.
That is actually super impressive for those tires! That sand in the trunk method is a cheat code!
Currently on my 3ird set of Truxus mud terrains. The sipping does go away as they wear, so I take a box cutter to them to regain some of the grip.
37 x 12.50s on my daily driver, a 1993 jeep YJ.
I'm coming up on 2 years with my Falken Wildpeak AT3W's and they're just starting to get close to 30% tread remaining. I did drive around for like 3 months with my front tires driveway aligned and even though I measured the distance between the center of the tread pattern on the front and back of the tire and set the toe so the front was 0.5" shorter than the back, I started to visually notice they were wearing super quick so I rotated tires, drove for another 3 months to even them out and then got an alignment. Yea apparently I was way off. Plus I wheel the piss outta my XJ, I'm on an 8" lift and I've WJ knuckle swapped it, I've got front and rear lockers, I like to do drifties around corners when it's wet, I drive in 4HI when it's wet, I do not corner slowly when it's dry, and I daily the pig. I do offroad recoveries with it, roadside rescues, and I'm a mobile mechanic. The tires have about 25k miles on em, and about 40-50% of them are offroad, diffs locked, and they're usually slippin as I'm pullin someone out of a shitty situation. I've got 4.88 gears and sadly I'll have to either get 17" wheels or get a different tire if I want to get 37's kuz Falken does not make the Wildpeak AT3W's in 37 on a 15" wheel.
Hi, great video as always. I really enjoy your channel. I live in Québec and yes we are required by law to have snow tires but they can either be dedicated winter tires or they can have only the 3 peaks symbol. I run 315's BF KO2 on a JKU and find that they perform quite good. And when the road conditions get bad, just stick it in 4hi!
Thanks for sharing!
I got better traction with KO's than I did with ko2's. Especially on wet pavement. Been using bfg's for years. Thinking about trying milestar Patagonia mt02's, and see how they do. I'm in the north east.
Thank you. great video
Glad you liked it!
Both of our jeeps run BFG KO2s up here north of Fairbanks. We see lots of snow every winter that lasts FOREVER. At least it seems that way. The tires work better than mud terrain tires.
Happy to hear the KO2's are handling their own in Fairbanks! Now that is a testimonial seeing how much it snows there!
Just picked up the Kenda at2s and love them
What'd you have before? What kinda driving? Eyeing those myself.
During the winter I run Nokian hackapalita studded tires, or the Nokia lt3. There are other good studded winter tires but I have found with these you almost have to try slip if you're driving like a normal person. Those Finns really know what they're doing when it comes to winter tires. Any studded winter tire will perform better on the ice and snow then just about any non-specialized Tire. I prefer the studs because I just don't think that the non-studded winter tires are there yet. With the studs you do give up some traction when it's dry though. But that's a cost that I'm more than willing to bear. I live in New England and drive rear wheel drive cars and trucks all winter.
BFG AT K02 all the way. They never let me down in any conditions.
I know one thing Nitto Ridge Grapplers suck in the snow and on wet roads...
Bought a set of 37 Milestar XTs can’t wait to test them out
You will have to come back here and update us once they are installed and you have some miles on them!
My next tires will be the Firestone XT. on both my Cherokee and Class C RV. Thanks!
Glad we could help! When you are ready to get that set shoot us a message or give us a call!
My kanati Trail Hogs work better on snow and ice than any other tire I have ever seen. Absolutely amazing traction on pure ice, blew my mind.
I love those Kanatis! They preform amazing in the Wisconsin weather!
@@TrailBuilt they work awesome but wear fast and have balance vibrations. But make an incredible dedicated winter tire.
What do you guys think of the yokohama geolander mt?
'22 4runner Milestar Patagonia. They just work.
You should have the Nitto Nomad Grapplers on the 3 peak list! Give them a try.
Perelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus is also 3 peak certified. I think they do great in snow and they are very quiet on the road for an all-terrain tire. I am on my second set now. But next time I get tires I'm thinking about trying out the new hand Coupe Dynapro at2 extreme. Not at2 but at2 extreme.
Hankook
What about the Pirelli scorpion all terrain Plus? Been a great tire for me!
Had a 88 k2500 years ago and decided to put Kelly safari DTRs on it. They discontinued that tire awhile back. It had knobs with little to no siping. I learned then that 3 peak tires are better on snow and went to a BF Goodrich All terrain t/a. They were better on the road too. The Kelly's sounded like a chainsaw going down the road at 55mph 🤪
My Uncle has a set of Kelly A/Ts on his 07' F150. They were crazy loud next to the K02s on my Wrangler of the same size and width.
I bought the Recon grappler for my 22 Ram 1500. They are slightly too loud for me. What would you suggest a little quieter. And still look good? Thx
People sleep on those Hankook Dynpro AT2’s. I preferred them over Wildpeaks. Works great in the winter, but also, I wheel this tire hard and it does awesome. They just don’t look as cool as the other guys.
Ontario, Canada here. I've had dedicated winter tires every winter since 1967. Yes, I'm that old and buying new Ice SNOW Michelins later this week. BTW, as far as I know M/S rating on tires does not have any standardized testing. Pretty much any tire with tread can be M/S if you want to hang your brand name on it. Misleading, imo.
If you actually look at some of what they call mud and snow, easy to see that you are right.
Good news for us living Thailand.
I’ve been running Falkens since since 2019 here in the PNW. Love them, but also thinking of switching to KO2s on the next run.
don't switch. the wildpeaks outperform the ko2s in every way, especially in wet or snow conditions
I am currently running Wild peaks on my Ram 2500 and K02’s on my wrangler. Wildpeaks are better in every way on road especially wet, and I can not tell any meaningful difference off road.
Wild peaks are quieter also
Thanks all! I sliced one tire pretty good in Moab a week ago, and that is the only time I had a problem. Replaced for free, so I’ll be running them a while longer.
Yeah if you want a worse tire and want to waste money then by all means switch!
Well…it also depends a lot of where you live.
In Florence 🇮🇹 I always had 4season. But in the alps I had to swap cos the 4season wasn’t able to give me that security.
In 🇪🇸 too I had 4seasons cos I was living in the southern part when in 🇨🇦 no way.
In 🇧🇬 I will swap too cos it is just nuts how bad the road are and cleaned.
i wana know if any one else has had any expraince with handkook Dynopro AT2's so far they have been good for me on my fwd ford escaspe
You guys should review the Hercules terratrac extreme at
Definitely something we can add to the list!
when i was in norther wi, pretty much ran street tires on passenger vehicles, had been a goodyear customer and they had the m&s on sides. didn't get off pavement with them. didn't have much issue. i bought in 2018 a 2017 vw jetta gli, had the perilli centero 7(?) one got damage from pot hole and replace it and other for matching, still have 2 on rear and 98k+ miles and 75k+ on fronts that were replaced. as commenting, be putting on tires all around tomorrow morning, dunlap altimax 365aw and have 3 peak mountain. be a first for that tire and hoping it works well here in southern nv las vegas and west of there. have a hill go over to/from work and occasionally has snow, chains required unless snow tires/3 peak on sidewall. have you tested these tires before?
Sadly I have not heard a whole lot about the Altimax tires! Radar Renegades ATs are a favorite of mine have you taken a look at those before? www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/store/tires?sort=popular&tire_type=All%20Season&brand=Radar&tmodel=Renegade%20AT%20Pro&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0
Boy you musy not sell goodyear or youv got a hard on just too sell these sub par tires as the duratracks i feel rivel these far beyond so whats your issue with goodyear duratacs and mtrs ????
What about the nokian outpost at 😁 gonna test them on the jeep this winter
Been running Nokian Weatherproof SUV tires on our X-Trail T30 for 2.5 years. They work great even in thicker snow. (Finland). Would be nice to know how the Outpost AT’s are.
Gotta check out the new falken wildpeak at4w and let us know how it stacks up against the others
Great Idea!
Good info. Quick question, does mounting an all terrain tire with the white logo on the inside, so the black wall is outside, change the tread pattern and affect the performance, or does it not matter? Thanks.
On a directional tire, yes. See if your tire has the arrows indicating which way they should roll. That didn't seem to matter to the Army though. They used to put Wrangler mud terrains on the Humvees. One side going one way one side going the other way. I think it was so they could rotate them a certain way or so they can back the hell up out of there!
What about hankook dynapro extreme?
I am always worried about being stranded in the middle of nowhere. Hence my question : What is the most puncture resistant tire? (i always carry 2 spares, which is enough most of the times. Toyo RT, General Grabber AT3, Maxxis RAZR).
Have you taken a look at the Kleaver from Kenda? That one is a personal favorite for me!
Having an e-rated 10 ply tire is a good place to start. Having less space between the n o b b y parts of the tread will help too. It's hard to puncture through those knobs. That's why some people like the Good Year all terrain, but it's not super aggressive. I like the Kelly Edge mud terrains. A few years ago they called them all terrains. That's what they really are, a super aggressive all terrain. They've got good spacing lots of block from the tread so they're harder to puncture unless you get unlucky and get a nail between the blocks. Super tough long wearing and great on Road. But if you don't rotate them every few thousand miles you will know about it. But if you do there's no problem. My favorite tires now.
Seems like 3PMSF rated General Grabber A/TX isn't quite as popular as when it first came out? Even though they are studdable? These were once rated number one in the hybrid category.
I think it might have something to do with so many options being available right now!
@@TrailBuilt You mean, too many options! 😅
I confess, I'm becoming a huge fan of the Baja Boss AT. Amazing tire that's great on road, rugged appearance plus the 3PMSF.
I will second the grabbers they do awesome in the snow and they’re also great at slinging rock so whoever is behind you
@TrailBuiltoff-road
Can u please make another video about what’s the best all terrain tires for daily, that for those that drives on the road more than some off-road, and still handles through the weather conditions?
Compare all three between which one has a better tread blocks, the tread depths, the should lugs, the side bites, the mileage warranty of LT-metric and P-metric, mention the 3PMSFR.
The 3 all terrain tire comparisons is,
1: Yokohama Geolander AT G015
2: Hankook Dynapro AT2 Extreme
And
3: Toyo open country at3
And why chose one of those tires, over the other?
And mention the price for the best bargain.
Even what compounds it has.
I truly would love to see if those 3, and want to hear u which is the truly best all terrain tires, that for those like me, drives daily on my mostly on-road than off-road but still handles like a dream through the weather conditions.
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Because next time, my next set is a very hard choice.
Should I stick with toyo open country at3, or Hankook Dynapro at2 extreme
Because one has better should bites than the other, one has aggressive tread blocks than the other, which one is much quieter than the other, and which one is the best for daily use?
😅😅😅😅 sorry to through this. But I want to see of this particular category. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
For #3, you spelled Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S wrong
@@joshuasantos7158 no I didn’t lol. I don’t mention about it.
I said toyo open country at3 right.
And I only go for those three. Not cooper discoverer all terrain
No worries at all! We could definitely get that added to the list for a future video, for daily usage I would run with the tire that is the most quiet but can also preform in different weather conditions.
@@TrailBuilt thank u for the recommendation.
Because it’s still looks aggressive as it is. Not as much as TOYO’s that I’m running right now and I’m happy.
But definitely be more appropriate for daily for hankook on pavement more than off-road but still got that 3PMSFR.
Thank u for that brotha ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Absolutely! Glad that we could help with that, let us know when you are ready to scoop up a set!
@TrailBuiltoff-road
What air down do u recommend for winter that’s 40 degrees or below, for my 27.9” toyo open country at3 on my 2015 lifted Scion xB, that’s 215/70/16?
Now it’s FWD we all know but it handles very well. Not a very affective as 4WD/AWD trucks and SUV’s.
But what psi should I air down to, to ah for the winter conditions?
I live in up north Illinois.
@@dawabbitt3079 but the benefits doing that is the fact that, with around 5 psi down, it be enough to grab on the snow a bit more for a bit more grip.
I had no issues doing that before.
@@dawabbitt3079 well Incase u didn’t know, I’m rollin a 215/70/16.
On a 205/55/16 it’s not a great idea to do so. But large all terrain tires like I have the toyo open country at3 can do
@@toyotabrony I did know because you mentioned so in you inquiry to TrailBuilt. Airing your tires 'down' below manufacturers specs is simply NOT recommended - - 'IF' you are going to operate your vehicle on city streets, highways, etc. It has to do with load transfer to the outside tire while cornering, braking, etc.
@@toyotabrony You should not reduce tire pressure to increase traction on snow or ice, mainly because it does not work. In fact, underinflated tires cause the engine to work harder, due to increased rolling resistance.
Several vehicle manufacturer's owner's manuals recommend operating winter tires several psi (typically 3-5) higher than their recommended pressures for summer and all-season tires.
Let's take an example of a car that has tires with a normal pressure of 40 psi. If you're driving at a constant speed on the highway and the roads are wet, here's how the pressure level breaks down in comparison to hydroplaning risk.
If your tire pressure is severely under-inflated at only 25 psi, you can hydroplane at just 45 mph. For 30 psi, you hydroplane at a speed of 49 mph. At 35 psi, you'll hydroplane at 53 mph. Then at the ideal 40 psi, it's not until 57 psi that you begin to hydroplane.
Of course, the weight of the car, the tread on the tires, and how the driver drives plays a significant role in your risk of hydroplaning. But having under inflated tires can play a role in your car hydroplaning, which is why you should keep your tires at their recommended pressure level.
When you underinflate a tire, it droops, letting more of the tire touch the road. In certain cases - like driving in some snowy conditions and on sand - underinflating your tires is a great tactic.
There is, however, a rub when it comes to underinflating winter tires, and it goes back to that enlarged contact patch. Extra traction is a good thing when you're driving in the snow, but it becomes a not-so-good thing once the roads are plowed. Underinflated tires will give you (believe-it-or-not) too much traction, which will lead to difficult steering - and a car you can't steer well, obviously, isn't all that safe. Also, depending on the depth of the snow you're driving in, properly inflated tires can sometimes more easily dig through the snow to the pavement below, whereas the wider underinflated tires will ride only on the surface of the snow. Finally, underinflation damages your tires and wheels.
@@dawabbitt3079 so it’s best to stay what the tire is recommended the?
How about when u want to even the tires on dry pavement, and use a chalk test to see when it marks. It shows over inflated and under inflated. And it has to add air to the tires very correctly?
While the Klever RTs (shown at 4:27) barely don't have the 3-peak rating, aren't they close in performance to these other tires?
I would say so, only just because I have seen so many people at the trails running those Klevers and man do they handle well!
@@TrailBuilt awesome
Really enjoying these videos but the website is down...
Sorry for the delay on this comment the website should be up and running for some time now!
Have you heard the rumor about a new KO3?
I believe I have. We shall see if it actually rolls out officially!
Don’t be a SNOW FLAKE😝
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BFG K03 VS FALKEN AT3 W wich one should i buy ... ?
Tough to say! Both are great tires, will you be using them year round?
Definitely the Falken AT3W BFG! But check out Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T They are awesome!
I used BF Goodwrench All Terrains on my ‘99 TJ all yeah in Colorado and never had a problem…just in snow and ice, you have to be aware of what you are driving on and not be that guy that just plows through everything because he thinks he can.
T/A KO2s were good on my 99 TJ but the Falken Wildpeak AT3s I have on it now, are noticeably better in the rain and a bit better in the snow.
Yeah I definitely think 80% of the battle sometimes when driving in bad weather is just being aware of your surroundings!
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Lol you guys are getting likes, 1 per each minute the video has been out at this point. Awesome😂
No they’re not, I work in the tire industry so I get huge discounts on some but not others 😂