Can I Survive Without Automation and Coding in Testing? || What's My Testing Career After 10 Years?
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- Can I Survive Without Automation and Coding in Testing? || What's My Testing Career After 10 Years?
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Naveen - You have amazing set of videos on your channel and those who have just gone through the titles and thumbnail of your videos can easily identify where he needs to fix his feet.
You contribution to the testing community is amazing and you are the reason why I stick to the testing profile
Naveen, Thanks for the heads up for those who is in need, much needed one.
Thank you Naveen, it’s something relating to our core values as well. I guess it would be very helpful if we could have a little detailed video on the roadmap for up-skilling. Obviously there is no end to it, but only an experienced person in their specific field can guide us.
Thanks Again 🙏
Thanks Naveen you are doing great work for testing communities.
Thanks Naveen to be discussed openly - i always happy to thanks you to open my mind - want to make my mentor 😊
I love this channel and really appreciate the work you put into it. Please bring back the interview series
Thank you Sir Naveen for creating this video. It is a much needed. You are doing great for Software Test Community
Thanks for this valuable Video Navin.Need of the hour ❤🙏
Thank you so much, Naveen, for sharing valuable insights on QA. I truly appreciate your guidance. As a QA professional, I believe in continuously improving our values Thanks
Tech Industry is dynamic and that is why many people are switching from tech to management.
Exactly
Thanks Naveen, for such a informative videos on latest automation technologies 👍
I watched this excellent video just now. Naveen Sir has rightly highlighted many of the common issues that people with 10+ years of experience in Software Testing with/without automation skills are facing (be it being behind in technology wise or Skills wise). Naveen Sir's 20+ mins video gave a complete picture of what is happening now and what is going to happen if we do not up skill ourselves. We are all somewhere in this loophole going into quagmire of working in the day to day projects (in different positions) and forgetting the art of upskilling ourselves to stay relevant in the near/far future. I personally would like to thank Naveen Sir for this wonderful video. ITs a rude wake up call for all of us to have forgotten the art/skill of upgrading ourselves periodically.
Appreciate your efforts in guiding us to progress in right path 👏
I definitely agree with you, automation is criticial. I did the opposite-I first learned automation, and then learned manual testing...so I know both know. I know Protractor, Cypress, and Playwright. I also used Postman and SQL and some other manual testing tools. But like I have seen others mention in the comments, the problem I am facing now is that when I have an interview, they don't care if I have over 6 years of automation experience-they want me to solve dev-level coding problems on the spot. No one in my interviews is asking about testing strategies, and oftentimes I've found that people interviewing me don't know much about the testing frameworks themselves (a few were surprised when I told that that I have used Cypress to automatae some of my REST API testing).
There needs to be some kind of shift in the way they interview QA Automation roles....for an SDET, I can understand needed to know more in-depth coding....but as a QA Automator its not really necessary in my opinion and experience. At least this his my experience here in the U.S...
Yes I have faced same ,
Same here.
I thought this was an Indian thing , thanks for painting the picture for the global trend too
Same here
What do they expect SDETs to create with developer level coding knowledge? Even an excellent automation framework is a baby project for a developer.
Very nice Suggestion, Thanks Naveen to be discussed openly & You are doing great for Software Test Community
It's my pleasure
Thanks Naveen very much for inspiring me.Every thing has its own positive and negative.we should take positive and give positivity.
Perfect answer........ automation must needed skill....in saftware development industry.....
Really well explained as sometime when i say to QA mate we need to have some technical skill they answer that would not help but everything we learn eventually have a benefit.
Hi Naveen what you have said i can relate to it i also have been doing the same so thanks for your straight forward reality
Manual Testing is core work and can not be replaced by any automation tool. Simple thing in any project is that most of the time application is undergoing lot of changes and we require lot of regrioros black of testing. Automation testing comes into picture when we have a stable application and we need to do frequent regression testing for the build.
May be for front end . But backend automation can be done from start itself
Thank you so much Naveen😇😇
Each word is worth listening to, much needed. Thank you so so so much Naveen 🙏
Great Bro, Thank you!
Hi Naveen, firstly I would like to Thankyou for this amazing video.
I’m currently working as a Recruiter and I’m parallely working on changing my domain and moving to testing. It’s been a week since I am learning about Software Testing.
As a fresher in the IT domain, I don’t have much knowledge about these and as you mentioned in your video there’s a lot of confusion over the social media on ‘what to choose’.
I would really appreciate if you can guide me on what skills should I learn first to become a software tester.
Thankyou in advance. :)
Thank you so much for your advice
Thanks Naveen for sharing the ground reality and expectations from testing team nowadays.
To the Point 👏 👏 , investing into yourself and upgrading time to time, is the need of hour to survive in Tech.
Thank you Naveen, Could you please share the roadmap to upskill our careers in automation
Thank you, Naveen. This is something a group of people thinks and later blame others or suitations for not upgrading and ultimately regret it . This is just an eye-opener for those and it is high time to upgrade skills.
Maybe you can call it its not everybody's cup of tea
Absolutely true @@user-gf9hg7sn2g
@@user-gf9hg7sn2g Probably
Right information Naveen.
Maybe people who do not have the knack or aptitude for programming are spreading such wrong information.
First to comment it, good topic to be discussed
this is a very good video, thanks
Thank you Naveen
Thank you Sir!
Thanks Naveen.
I 100% agree with you. My managers are manual testers with almost 8 to 15 years of exp. Now they are stuck with low salaries.
Automation Although some of the companies are using but still if a manual tester is not getting better in tech, they have no future then.
Hi @Naveen , Could you help with tutorials on how to leverage the ChatGPT for QA and automation ? I am still thinking it would definitely save sometime when we come up with the test cases . I think we should learn how to effectively use the Chat-GPT in practical
Yes Indeed! Automation testing is mandatory for regression testing in Big tech. Atleast 70% of the TCs should have been automated for quicker releases every sprint. Manual will only be used for functional & integration with upstream/downstream.
Companies have Quality team that are creating in-house automation testing framework with Java & Python, creating APIs for test data setup.
Being a Senior position on QA, I take interviews in my company for Manual Automation both then yes can say Naveen shown exact market demanding conditions, One should be having knowledge of automation with hands on practice, Learn Tech no matter what otherwise yes one will struggle a lot ..Set a GOAL that you have to learn it with curiousity. Make effrots and Get good package .Thanks Naveen.
Hi ... Could u plz guide on the most demanding skills right now in testing..as I am a manual tester...what skills should I go for to progress in career as a tester.. thanks in advance
Hey sir with due respect can u guide me a little i am doing automation but need ur suggestions and help
Awesome Very Helpful 👍👍
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Hi
Naveen
Agree with you
Thank you Naveen.Can you please share the MCQ question in Java for Automation tester.
Hey naveen Plz tell me exact how can I handle this situation. Automation Testing Interview. Every Interviewer ask only coding question in Interview. I don't know this Interview is testing ya Developer. Question ask for pure Developer level. Recently I have done synechron Interview. Interviewer says , I want good coding knowledge candidate . but Interview is testing then why asking Developer level question ?
hi Naveen, Could you please explain how test cases should be identified for automation testing?
@naveen I am also asking the same questions to myself today only so do you think if someone cannot be good in programming then he should try to do some certification like scrum master that can help to get better position and survival for next 10 years...
Naveen I have worked as manual tester,I am learning data analytics, and my interest is going more towards business side, Can data analytics help me in both QA & business analysis profile?
For many people, actors may be the role model but for me u r my role model sir
what ever you said is correct , currently i am having 10 years of exp in manual but not in autoation, i wanted to change my job but it's not possible due to lack of knowledge autoation. I was thinking since 2 weeks to change my self, By seeing your videos i got some idea to learn autoation. Hope that will be helpful .
What is your current salary?
Thanks for sharing this...looks like manual Testing will also disappear from market in some days..like Nokia..thanks for waking up call...
manual testers will remain in the market but along with them automation is also go hand in hand.
Hello Naveen i have been following your videos to learn Automation..and i am really interested to switch my career from Manual testing to Automation testing, but i don't have proper guidance for the transition, i would really appreciate if your spare few minutes for a summarized guidance for me
Nowadays companies are asking complex coding questions on java than 2years before . Earlier it was theoretical questions only but now to clear a interview is tough
This is so true...and it's not fair. The last few interviews I've had, they have asked or given me complex leetcode problems...and ask ZERO questions about automation or testing. And they are all demanding DevOps experience as well...
Also I would like to Highlight here does chat-GPT impacts QA role in long run ? If so it is good to think about in that angle as well
How's the market for selenium with java automation testing??
Hi Naveen, PIease help me the following question.I have three unique buttons in my page.(Display names are different),The internal ID & Name changes on every page load.I need to click on each button in sequence.
Hi Naveen,
I am learning Cypress automation testing is this has good future
Hi Naveen, can you tell us how a CSM certification can help in QA role ?
Hi Naveen, i am having 8years experience with very low knowledge on automation. now can switch to Automation
Automation is very imp Nowdays integral part , but plus automation one must know devops, ci cd,Jenkins, API also and coding is subset so no need to say explicitly , plus prompt engg how to use bing ai and chatgpt to find out the solutions in quick time.
AUTOMATION IS A COUNTRY
JENKINS ,DEVOPS,CI,CD,API,SQL,PERFOMANCE ARE LIKE STATES OF THE COUNTRY😅
Hi sir it it good time to switch as automation tester
Hello Naveen Sir,
I plan every day to watch video's on mobile testing . But not finding time stuck in manual testing project . How do i plan. I am also stuck with low salary .
If you are a fresher from IT background, stay away from QA role altogether. Though it may sound harsh , but try for Dev roles. All the new technologies that are developing are for Developers, they are paid higher with no upper limit. However no matter what automation tool you learn , there is a cap you will have on what you are paid. Try for Dev role .
That's wrong and misleading.
Does it still worth learning test automation with selenium and java framework ?
Hi Naveen we are waiting for Playwright with java script
Dont run after salary package. Do what you like. If automation is something you don't enjoy doing then better dont do. Find something which you like doing.
I am @26 done automation testing course + still applying + still not getting calls + still unemployed
Sir automation interview 8 Sal experience crack karna hai. Tyagri Karne me lagbhag Kiran Samar lag jayga
hope you can answe this : can you still progress in career even if you never want to be a manager or leading a team. nothing about that job role interest me and feels unnecessary extra responsibility.
Starting from a manual tester position there are 2 roadmaps inncareer. One is to go to tge management part of the QA activities, leading and managing teams. The second one is to improve technical skills, learn automation framework, learn a programming language, learn devops, etc
It's changing randomly
Which testing is good with pytho or witth java
Testing and automation job in abroad, how is the scope
In Manual testing, company offers me 8lpa bro , test cases and jira important they are demanding only , I don't know still but they hire me
@@vibeswithvivek 2
How many years experience do u have?
i need to learn selenium testing course
True but for how long can you keep upskilling ? It’s like I am running to just survive !! 😢 package comes later !! Learning on the job is one thing and learning something else is another thing . Sometimes it gets exhausting !! Just saying
After a point, you learn the art of learning... From their Upskilling is fun and a cakewalk...
Here Upskilling need not necessarily learning multiple tools, but excelling to market demands in your own domain.
You can move to management
There is no end for learning it's up to their passion ..whatever u learn it's for ur success
Just do Domain Certifications, Suppose if you are in Insurance Domain, try to crack INS 21,22 Domain certifications, you will be having a fucking value just with manual testing.
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If everyone learns automation...... again many people will be without a job in the market
Disappointed but true 😭
Naveen even Automation testing has no scope after 20 lakhs package and people are jumping to data science
thats totally wrong, 20 LPA is a very common packg in india for SDET (3-5 yrs exp). People are getting 40-70 LPA also with SDET profile up to 15 years. And not everyone is going to data science.
@@naveenautomationlabs I have 8.5Years of experience with all latest tools knowlegde . But very few naukri calls and packages are not exceeding 28 LPA
True Naveen bhaiya @@naveenautomationlabs
But web automation seems to be a SCAM....
@@Stride_Purple Web UI automation is waste of time.. and it's SCAM .. to loot clients
Web Automation is not a SCAM, it is useful for regression tests and don't expect an automation tester to find bugs or requirement gaps like a manual tester. We need to combine efforts of both manual and automation tester. These days all job postings and recruiters are going gaga over automation and this is a SCAM. They will ask 80% of the questions in an interview for automation just to utilize 20% in actual automation. None of the projects are 100% automated. With introduction of AI, coding will be more easier, IDEs will start or have already started to incorporate AI coding capabilities, near future we will only need to feed in out requirements and coding snippet will be provided by AI. We need to have basic understanding of how code works, so that we can manipulate it according to our needs
Nope, it's subjective. Can't conclude as Scam...
This should be discussed more. Why do you say that?
Interesting 🤔