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"CAN YOU FORGIVE ME?" Magnificent Century Episode 133: • Magnificent Century Ep...
Suleiman doesn't want to accept that Hürrem will die and tries to find a cure for her. Meanwhile, Lala Mustafa Pasha takes Selim's side and sets a trap for Bayezid. Bayezid loses his temper because of the letter he received from Lala Mustafa and wages battle against Selim. Signor Pedro offers Mihrimah to run away together. Rüstem loses his all faith for Mihrimah and gets close with Signora Mendes. Suleiman and Hürrem wrestle with their consciences in Bursa where they have gone fır finding a cure. While Suleiman taking the hardest test of his life in Mustafa's tomb, Hürrem asks for Mihrimah's blessing. Hürrem accepts the death and asks for a wish from Suleiman. This wish sets Suleiman's heart on fire.
At the age of 26, when he ascended to the throne, Sultan Suleiman aimed to build an empire more powerful than Alexander the Great and to render the Ottomans invincible. Throughout his 46-year reign, he became the greatest warrior and ruler of both East and West.
The young Suleiman received news of his succession to the throne during a hunting party in 1520. Unaware that he would be ruling a reign beyond his dreams, he left behind his wife son and took to the road with his close friend and companion Pargali Ibrahim to reach the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul. As they started their journey overland, an Ottoman ship set sail from Crimea in the Black Sea, bringing female slaves as gifts for the Ottoman palace… On this ship was Alexandra La Rossa, the daughter of a Ukrainian Orthodox minister, taken away from her family and sold to the Crimean palace. She had no idea that she would become Hurrem, wife of Sultan Suleiman and mother of princes, ruling the empire with him through bloodshed and intrigue.
As Sultan Suleiman conquered the world, his great passion for Hurrem would clash with his love for and trust in his closest friend and advisor, Grand Vizier Pargali Ibrahim, all set against the backdrop of the tension between Christian Europe and the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century.
Cast: Halit Ergenç, Nebahat Çehre, Meryem Uzerli, Okan Yalabık, Nur Aysan, Selma Ergeç, Sema Keçik, Filiz Ahmet, Selim Bayraktar, Selen Öztürk, Nihan Büyükağaç, Burcu Tuna, Merve Oflaz, Arif Erkin, Ali Uyandıran, Alp Öyken, Murat Tüzün, Doğan Turan, Gökhan Çelebi, Yüksel Ünal.
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These two women had been fighting each other their whole lives. And the last thing they said to each other is
"May God be with you."
"And you too."
“Sometimes forgiving your enemy is the biggest punishment for them” I mean sooo true.
Truth from.mahidevran..
Why?
@@Yoruichi_16 Bacause they have to live with their own guilt.
What makes huge difference between Hurem and Mahidevran is that Hurem regretted all of her mistakes she made while fighting for her existence, Mahidevran was always proud of being evil, she was ready to hate almost everyone not only Hurem. So I think that sentence perfectly describes her all life egoism, even though it generally can be the truth.
Yes . Like what sultan alparslan did with romanus diogenes
Both of them are now beyond any rivalry. Kind of soulmates who shared a same destiny
I love how Hurrem still gives Mahidevran a small bow of respect at the end even though she now lost all her power. It's a very strong detail in this scene.
Precise ly.
That " bow" shows that finally Hurrem recognised Mahidevran.
The gesture is simply superb. Mahidevran at that moment already lost everything in her life. She despite giving birth to a Prince was deprived of palace comfort.
She was no longer a threat. But still Hurtem bowed to her. A Sultana who won the palace intrigue finally bow to her main rival who lost everything on this game of throne
@@shamshulanuar7718 That’s why Milllions people and love Hurrem - she is strong, brave woman who could forgive Mahidervan and piiittiied her.
Mahidervan proved again what a coward and hypocrite she was- instead of admitting her sins, especially Killing Mehmed she stayed quiet and never admitted or repented.
No wonder Lord puniished her in rightful way- she died alone with no one by her side and on Hurrem’s son’s mercy! 🙏🏼
@@shamshulanuar7718 I LOVE how Hurrem silenced Mahidervan with her humility and kindness so that Mahidervan couldn’t even reply anything. Hurrem didn’t even need to raise a voice , she proved she is 👑👑👑🔝🔝🔝
Hurrem proved she was heads above Mahidevran as Mahidervan never had humility or courage to admit her sins and killing Mehmed or to repent! Bravo Hurrem!👏🏼🛐
@@shamshulanuar7718 what palace comfort BOTT? Magidervan killled Mehmed, she deservved deathhhh!
@@danikameric9236 what humility?
Was she not the very Person who slandered Mustapha?
Humility ?
7:17 Bow down to other who seems powerful is normal
But bow down to person who was weak, powerless,
hopeless
that was a great humility 👑❤
Well she mellowed down.
After all, she already won the battle to the throne.
As for humility, I beg to differ. What is the value of " bow" to Mahidevran when she was the one slandering mahidevran to the point Mahidevrma was deprived of palace comfort
@@shamshulanuar7718 hahahahahahah! Hurrem never slandered Mahidervan, botttt! Mahidevran was eviiill! Cryyy louder!
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hurrem never slandered Mahidervan! Hahahahahaha! What comfort? Mahidevran killled Mehmed, BOTTTT!
Great Hurrem, how She calmly listen to all the words of Mahidevran and when she mentioned the death of Mehmet, Mahidevran lost her speech. Here Hurrem's courage to apologize and to forgive Mahidevran is admirable.The ability to forgive is the best thing about a human being.
@Leo
Truth❣
@Leo Exactly, great thinking 👏
She has to listen.
The witch is scared to face Allah.
About a hurrem being :))
@@Moheroine
🤭😁❣
I just know that Mahidevran would never find the humility to do this if it was the other way around. I am actually proud of Hürrem for going up to Mahidevran, shows character growth. The young Hürrem, I would never see her do this in a million years. Bravo Vahide's Hürrem, showing she's the better lady 👏
Oh definitely . Mahidevran was one of those people who never regretted a dime for any bad they did . Atleast hurrem showed regret or reluctance in many of her actions .
Obviously not! Lmao! Hurrem is 📈📈📈
Also, Hurrem was not the first to kill a prince. It still bothers me that there was no punishment for Mehmet's death.
@@ednahenrich3627 how can there be a punishment. Mehmet died of an incurable disease.
@@neroliehemara6287 at last someone
Had brains
Speaking truth that they deny
Hurrm fan boys
When mahidevran said Suleiman. You could still say she had so much hope
Anyways it was both Suleiman's and valide hafsa Sultan mistake. She made both of them fight. Both of them were teenagers and it was clear they would be jealous of each other it was their duty to tell them to get along with each other. As both of them had children. Teaching children that serving dynasty was more important, than being a Sultan. Even this could have prevented fraticide law whatever it was..
👏👏
Well, it’s the Fatih rule’s fault if you think about it. Hurrem and Mahi didn’t want their kids to get killed, so they had to try and end each other. Hurrem won.
@@winnikvinni they totally went against Islam implementing this law.... The Ottoman dynasty no more represented Islam
Hurrem is classy to the core. She died like she lived,like a whirlwind. She left this earth on the wings of a giant dove.❤😥
Classy screaming like a 🐖 😂😂😂
@@cuteunicorn5389 no thats u
@@cuteunicorn5389once a Chapri always a Chapri
Hurrem was never cruel at heart but she had to be that way to survive and this scene totally shows that❤️
হুররাম একটা ডাইনি
@@pushpitamajumder4846Why? Because she retaliated in kind when cruel things were done to her? She's entirely a product of her surroundings and circumstances
@@ashscheesecakes2064Many times she not only retaliated but planning to eliminate anyone whom she saw as rival or blocking her desire thave one of her son ASA Sultan
@@shamshulanuar7718 Like I said, she's a product of her surroundings. None of them have an excuse.
I find this similar to a Chinese drama called Ruyi's Royal Love. Except in that, Ruyi tries her hardest not to fall to their level and retaliate without scheming. Unfortunately, that doesn't work out well for her either.
Always Same excuses blah blah blah, same for mahidevran then, she had to be this way
Moral message...solve every problems a.s.a.p...
Apologize when necessary...
Don't wait for the death come...
Not everyone knows our time is coming...
Hurrem was lucky enough to know it so she can do what she thinks need to do...
Vahide Percin I will never stop signing your praises. You executed the role of Hurrem so flawlessly 👏
Nur Fettahoglu is so strikingly beautiful!
When Hurrem's third son Selim became sultan he restored everything Mahidevran she lost when she was banished from the palace.
😮
I appreciated most isthat Mahidevran forgave her, she has the wisdom. It was not proven she was responsible for Mehmeds death but it is more obvious and brutal how Mustafa was executed in the order, and in front of Suleiman, after reports of slanders caused by Hurrem.
Bwahahahahah! Hi BOTT! Mahidervan killlled Mehmed in episode 103. Hurrem forgave her this! And in real history Hurrem had nuthing to do with Mustafa! He was traiiitorrrr
Mahidervan Forgave??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 It’s proven she killled Mehmed- watch episode 103!
And in real history Hurrem never participated in Mustafa’s deathh! BOTTT!
This proved one more time that Hurrem was wayyyy better human that Mahideviil. She knew her sins and always bravely admitted them, she also forgave Mahidevran killing Mehmed, which was the best thing to do.
Mahidevran never admitted killing Mehmed, never regretted. Instead she blamed everyone, stayed bitter and hateful.
But Lord knew and gave Mahidervan what she deserved- living alone for the rest of her long life and dying alone. She reaped what she sew.
Mahidervan forgave? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mahidervan was the one who killled Mehmed in Episode 103!!! She was evillll!
And if you are talking on real history then Hurrem NEVER came to Mahidervan and she never participated in Mustafa’s killling. So try harder!
Mahidervan never admitted her sinns, she is the one who needed forgivenesss!
Preciosa
I agree with you
But bear in mind, you are going to be insulted by Hurrem's toxic fans.
They can't accept that Hurrem was ruthless
@@shamshulanuar7718 why are you tagging your faaake account? We all know it’s you🤡🤡🤡 Say thank you that Hurrem forgave Mahiderban! And in real history Hurrem never particiipated in killling Mustafaf!
When Mahidevran says you wanted to see me in this state at 3.34, that exactly shows her character. She would have done that if the situation was reversed. She has always enjoyed the idea of killing Hurrem's children when Mustafa would be king. But Hurrem cried when Mustafa was killed, though she was responsible, she knew she was guilty, she even told him that she wished he was her son and this blood wouldn't be spilled. That's the difference between these two women.
Admitting guilt or having a guilty conscense is not the same as being sorry for what one has done. You forget that mehidevran was in her world of comfort when hurrem came and rocked her entire world taking away everything first of all Suleiman, her place in the harrem and son etc. Hurrem had some loses but she ended her life in comfort, in the arms of the man who loved her, surrounded by those who cared for her.
@@kassyqueen8089 Taking away Suleiman? 🤣🤣Suleiman was never Mahidervan’s! Suleiman never married Mahidervan, he didn’t even live with her! She was CONCUBINE and Suleiman had hundreds concubines as her! Suleiman loved and married only Hurrem! Mahidervan was so jeaalouss that she poisonned pregnant Hurrem, beatt her, etc in first episode!
Hurrem had “some” loses???? She lost her parents, sister, her Mehmed, Cihangir! So wakey wakeyyy, hun!
@@kassyqueen8089 That’s Mahidervan’s fans problem! You still believe Hurrem took Suleiman away! Sorry, is Suleiman a book? A Gift? No one took him away! He was SULTAN who has hundreds conccubines as Mahidervan! And Mahidervan took Suleiman away from Gulfem! Remember?
Suleiman was FREE man! He was never committed to ANY woman until he met Hurrem. He married her and loved only her!
And did you just say “Hurrem had some loses”??? Really? Hurrem’s parents and little sister were killed in front of her, she lost Mehmed and Cihangir and real history Abdullah too, So THREE sons, plus Bayazid and she never lived in peace, she had to fight 40 years to survive in palace. Mahidervan never went through this pain or loses. But keep telling yourself. 😑
@@kassyqueen8089 in a harem culture it is extremely unwise for women to think she will be the only woman . Even if Hurrum wasn't there he would have chosen someone else
@@IrenJahan-ru5tx You are right but I believe she didn't think Suleiman will completely turn his attention from her and others and focus solely on hurrem, that was unusual too.
Mahidevran ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ uh did great...
Hurrem a person who had all earthly benefits. Was able to win the heart of suleiman, be queen consort, give birth to their children, raise all of them inside the Palace, teach them well, dressed the best, ate great foods... Killed not only one but many to secure her position. Now when she came to know that her death is near.... She is concerned about apology.
Mahi uh lived ur entire life in a miserable manner... And it take a great heart to forgive. Well done👌👌👌
When hurrem killed many people clapped for her but when uh did the things for ur very survival and mustafa's they called uh evil....
The character development is great...
You are either too immature or not bright enough to make such conclusions, especially in a drama show that is literally making Mahidevran the villain regardless of what she was in real life. Before Hurrem was abducted, Mahidevran was already enjoying the things you say Hurrem had. Plus the protection of Valide. She placed her entire future on the son who she fed her own evil, cried in front of him and poisoned him. And she wasn't even smart enough to play the game she started.
Thank God finally i have found a person who thinks like me.....the comment section is full with the fans of hurrem but no one understans the miserable life of mahedevran she had lost her only son Mustafa😢😢
Mahidevran is still full of hatred and bitterness. Without hearing anything, She started fighting Hurrem until Hurrem mentioned Mehmet's name. Very good Hurrem. Finally someone reminded her of Mehmet's death 👏
Mmm... remember Meryem's Hürrem aka Hürrem's young was so fierce and always bad with her and Mahidevran the same with Hürrem.
In the end, Hürrem implies that killing each other's children shouldn't surprise either of them. In that environment it is done
Dont forget that long before Mahidevran killed Mehmet, Hurrum already tried to poison Mustafa.. Mustafa had been dead if his concubine didn’t stop him from eating the poisoned food… so who started this killing game?
@@PinkDaisy57 it's difficult to say. Mahidevran poisoned Hürrem when she was pregnant of Mehmet but after Mahidevran save Mehmet's life when he was child and Hürrem was exiled. And when there was fire on harem Hürrem scream to little Mustafa (very little) that he his the responsable made Suleiman little in angry but after, always Hürrem, save her Mehmet and Mustafa to other fire. For this I say that at least they are similar. They both made mistakes and as Hürrem didn't be surprised that Mahidevran killed Mehmet, same Mahidevran didn't be surprise that Hürrem killed Mustafa. Both kill each other Şehzade
@@ramn_bennington True, mistakes have been made by both sides. Both cannot blame each other. It was a war, so it must be accepted.
@Kang Tae-djo not, Cihangir died for lost Mustafa
Both women were the victim of the fratricide law of the Ottoman Empire. Hurrem Sultan admitted her sins and ask forgiveness from Mahidevran without blaming her but Mahidevran still doesn't accept her sins and still blame Hurrem Sultan for everything. That shows the difference between these two.
There was a huge difference between hurrem's and mahidevran 's life ,may be that's why! U won't understand how lonely she was!
@@alishaaa7583 lonely? She had Valide Sultan, Hatice, Ibrahim, Daye, Suleiman sisters, Mustafa she had the whole family while they were against Hurrum she may be lonely in love but she was never actaully lonely
Mahidevran killed Mehmet..what price she think return?
I agree with you, the difference with Hurrem and her enemies is that even though they did the same things Hurrem knew she did evil things, they always had the feeling of self-righteousness
But Mahidevran has lost everything, Hurem hasn't. That's the difference.
This scene showed how much bigger of a person Hurrem was. It was 10x more honorable to ask for forgiveness and bestowed it to those who wronged you in the past. Mahidevran's biggest enemies and sourcesbof her misery were pride and envy. Thanks to Selim, the son of the person she despised so much, Mahidevran was pulled out from abject poverty in her later years. If the situation had changed and Mustafa became Sultan, I don't think Mahidevran would allow him to show kindness to Hurrem and her kids. Only one that she would spare might be Cihangir as he was never a threat to Mustafa's claim to the throne
Actually the bigger person is the person who is able to forgive.
She was the reason killed her innocent son ... a bigger person .... are you nut
Let’s see how you can forgive a lady that stole everything from you.
What an idiotic statement to make. The mentality of a teenage girl.
Mahidevran was the bigger person for forgiving. Hurrem only asked forgiveness because she was close to her death and feared Allah's judgement.
Actually Mustafa was a really loving brother. He would nut even listen to his mother even if she objected, if things were other way around. He showed respect to his step-mom the mistress turned sultana Hurrem though she was an enemy to him and his mother. Here Mustafa and his mother are the better and bigger person🎉
One of the most powerful and deep scenes in the whole series 💪
Imagine the original actress of Hurrem in this scene 🔥🔥🔥 still amazing scene regardless
Nah that Hürrem would find an excuse to scream 😂
@@hussainsultanzada6123 Omg true 😂😂😂😂
@@hussainsultanzada6123 😂😂
I think Vahide was more suitable for this scene than Meryem.
The scene with the agah and the tulips reminds me of the conversation between Suleiman and Ibrahim (I can't remember if it was him exactly) wherein he likens different flowers to women--they are are all beautiful, but the bring different kinds of beauty into the world, as Allah wanted. It's interesting that they showed this just before Hurrem walks into the scene.
I think it's poignant to note that Suleiman found a lot of joy in having both Hurrem and Mahidevran in his life, along with the other concubines, all of which brought a higher form of beauty into his life, he was very much aware of his situation, given his reflection. I find it sad, though, that those same flowers had to fight and vie for attention, for survival. The flowers may be beautiful, but in the flower box, they are forced to be more than just flowers. Hurrem and Mahidevran have lived this truth intimately from the beginning. And now towards the end, with death around the corner for Hurrem, she is trying to make amends. I understand that Mahidevran's pain (and wish for vengeance) runs too deep, but Hurrem has also tasted loss, defeats, and grief as a mother. Even if there the shadow of anger is left behind in Mahidevran's heart, it's a blessing that these two women were able to talk and bless each other in parting. The flowers take back a little of the heavenly beauty that they lost in the fight to each other. I am happy and my heart is glad that this happened. Death and pain put so much into perspective.
I think it was a conversation between Suleiman and Rustem and it was about letting Jews and other infidels living in Ottoman Empire 😊
@@martus874 Oh, you're completely right. Goodness, my memory isn't what it used to be. Thank you for the correction.
What I love in this scene is that hurrem bow for mahidevran even she didn't have to but she did. She also forgave mahidevran for her deeds and ask for forgiveness too. A true queen indeed❤
And I admire Mahidevran for her ability to forgive Hurrem
@@shamshulanuar7718 Forgive what, Shamshual Botttt? Mahidervan killled Mehmed, Hurrem didn’t killl Mustafa! Magidevran was evillll and is in 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@shamshulanuar7718 Mahidervan forgave? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mahidervan was the one who killled Mehmed in Episode 103!!! She was evillll!
And if you are talking on real history then Hurrem NEVER came to Mahidervan and she never participated in Mustafa’s killling. So try harder!
Mahidervan never admitted her sinns, she is the one who needed forgivenesss!
@@shamshulanuar7718 Mahidervan Forgave??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 It’s proven she killled Mehmed- watch episode 103!
And in real history Hurrem never participated in Mustafa’s deathh! And she never came to Mahidervan! BOTTT!
This proved one more time that Hurrem was wayyyy better human that Mahideviil. She knew her sins and always bravely admitted them, she also forgave Mahidevran killing Mehmed, which was the best thing to do.
Mahidevran never admitted killing Mehmed, never regretted. Instead she blamed everyone, stayed bitter and hateful.
But Lord knew and gave Mahidervan what she deserved- living alone for the rest of her long life and dying alone. She reaped what she sew.💅🏼
Ok Lot listen. This part is fiction. In actual history Mahidevran did not kill Mehmet, he actually died of smallpox not like how it happened in the show.
This is not a confrontation but rather the two women comeing to tearms as they are elder and wiser that they were not perfect and both had sins and now they sick of fighting,like Mahidevran pointed out the best revenge is to forgive and be forgiven and be at peace in your heart
5:51 It was satifying to see Mahidevran shocked to hear a pardon from Sultan Hurrem. In fact, she didn't even think Hurrem was willing to do that. Instead of cultivating hatred forever, she willing to bow down to her enemy by ask forgiveness although they was the first did cruelness to her. This clearly proves that Hurrem Sultan is far better than her enemies.
Hurrem was shocked too wihen Mahidevran forgave her.
She told Sumbul that she expected Mahidevran to scream at jer
@@shamshulanuar7718 bwahahahahahahs! No; Mahdiervan was schockked bot! She is the killlller of Mehmed
@@shamshulanuar7718 No, Hurrem was not shocked. She showed she is 🔝🔝🔝 than Mahideviilll who never admitted her sins
@@gunescelik4207 pity you
You have selective memory
After having all the luxurious life, winning and sealing the heart of suleiman, seeing her children grow in the Palace, njoying everything with her lover husband....
This character growth will be there..
But mahidevran still living her life misery lost the colorful life to suleiman and lost her world when mustafa was killed... Her forgiveness is the best....
Very classy of Hurrem to bow so gracefully. This actress played older hurrem superbly. One of my all time favourite scenes of this series ❤
Why does she always act like she’s a saint? They both killed each other’s son. Let’s not pretend either of them were angels on earth. They did what they did (in some sick twisted belief) to protect their own.
In fact, I do not blame Sultana Mahdifran for something. Imagine that you love someone so much, and then someone steals it from you. I blame hurrem. I read the original story of the series. Mahfiran did not kill her, but hurrem, because he is the first supporter of Mustafa, and she got rid of Mustafa by placing doubts in his father's heart. Any person can defend his home, his family, and his children, but what she did was motivated by the fact that she was wronged. She did the worst. Sultana Mahdifran in the real story was the most beautiful and the sultan preferred her beauty and loved her unless she came to hurrem. Hurrem conspired to kill him and make the Sultan disappoint him?
When we fall in love, we fight for it, that's what Sultana Mahdafran did the biggest problem that they were in love both with same man
@@Saraal432 this is exactly what I’m talking about. You are pretending that she’s some kind of Saint and was just fighting for her man. It’s a Harem! You can’t blame Hurrem for coming and and taking away her love. He left. He wanted Hurrem. They both did terrible things. They both also lived through an awful situation that had them fighting to save their children from fratricide. They both did what they thought they needed to do to survive and protect their children. Neither one of them were angels.
@@Saraal432 lmaoooo Botttt! That’s not true! In real history there are no facts against Hurrem that she had part in Mustafaf’s deathh!
Also Suleyiman loved only Hurrem and married only her! Get over it and stop cryiing!
@@Saraal432 Bwahahahahaha! Poooor youuuu! What history are you reading?
In real history Hurrem is known as very kind and loving, smart Sultan loved by everyone!
History also says that there are no facts that she particcipated agaiinst Mustafaf! He is known as traiitorr!
And mahidevilll was never suleyiman’s love or wiife! He never loved her, never wanted her! He loved only Hurrem and married only her!
Try agaiiin! 😂😂😂😂
When Mahidevran says that sometimes the biggest punishment you can give to your enemy is to forgive her, she was clearly talking about herself and how SHE felt when Hyrrem came to ask for her forgiveness and gave her blessings , which she wasn't expecting. Then , her pain grew even more bcs she couldn't hate anymore in face of forgiveness. So is clear that she only "pretends" to forgive Hyrrem and while Hyrrem shows genuine repentance and growth , Mahidevran succumbs even in her last days to the hatred that has filled her heart.
As soon as Mehmet's name was mentioned, Mahidevran changed the topic. She had no words to defend herself.
So was Hurrem
She did not deny that she planned Mustapha's execution
@@shamshulanuar7718 bahahahahaahaha! Hurrem never plannned it, she admitted her part, Mahiderban didn’t! Hurrem 🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝
Also in real history Hurrem never participated in this! Try agaiin
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hurrem never said she plannned this! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Try agaiin, stop twisting her words, cllownnnn
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 really?
Hurrem did not plan to eliminate Mustapha?
You have amnesia?
@@shamshulanuar7718 hahahahahaha! Continue cryiiiing! Moore! You have breakkkdown!
Thank you for updating the subtitles!
No matter how much we love this series, never forget Mahidevran never killed Mehmet. The history already show that Mustafa never betray his father. What a loss. Hurrem already get her punishment coz all his good son die and his son who become Sultan is useless
What history are you reading botttt? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 In real history Mahidevilll got karrrmaaa!
Mustfafafa was traiitorr and got his karrmaa!
Hurrem won everything: love, powerr and diied as greatest sultana! Alsooo she never participated in mustfafa’s deathh! U🤡🤡🤡
Hahahahahahaha! What history are you reading???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In real history:
✔️Hurrem is known as smartest, kindest and strongest sultana, loved by everyone even after 500 years
✔️ History says she didn’t partiicipate in mustfa’s deathh, there are no facts for it.
✔️ History says Mustfa was rebbell and liiar!
✔️ Hurrem won love and powerr and her son became sultan- loved by people! Her daughter became Valide sultan!
✔️ mahidevilll got her karrmmaa!
Cryyyy now! 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahahaha! Really? What history are you reading? I am Turrkish and I am laughing! 😆😆😆😆
- Hurrem never partticipated in mustfta’s deathh, every historian confirrms that!
-mustfa was traiitorr and planned rebelling. He would killll Hurrem’s all sons as per llaw
- Hurrem won everything- her son became sultan, daughter-valide sultana. She diied happy and loved by everyone.
- Mahidevilll got her karrmaaa! She diied as slaave and Hatun and lost everything!
Cryyy now and read history! 😁😆😆😆
Facts sis 👌
@@camiyep0lat7585 really?? Are these palaces still there??
The comments on this video and others show once again the a large number of people watching these clips have 0 understanding of nuance and complex character development and motivation.
They would watch clip by clip of different episodes and than they conclude their understanding of the show. It's no use talking and arguing with people who doesn't even watch the whole series.
Right . Their point of view is so simplistic and wrong that it destroys the whole concept of the series .
Ugh exactly. They'd rather villify one of the two women than think critically about what is actually happening.
No matter what hurrsm did to redeem herself. Hurrem purposefully tried to replace mahidevran in suleyman's life. It is but natural of mahidevran to feel dejected and blame hurrem for suleyman's fault
You’re so silly. She wasn’t his wife. She was one women in the harem. Suleyman fell in love with hurrem and she was his first wife. Hurrem didn’t force him to replace. He could’ve continued seeing her. But he was never in love with mahidevran and she wasn’t his wife either.
Hurrem has such a big heart and it’s showing. She forgave Mahidervan and admitted her participation in her part with Mustafa. (Show version participation)
Mahidevran never admitted her killing Mehmed, never repented her sins. She stayed same bitter and jeallous woman always blaming others.
That’s why Hurrem willl always stand tall and Mahidervan got her worst Karma! 🔥
Err. Don't overdo it.
Remember Hurrem slandered Mustapha ,resulting in latter's being executed.
And contrary to what shown in this series,Mehmet died due to a plague.
@@shamshulanuar7718 bahahahahahaha! No; Mahidervan killled Mehmed in series and real history Hurrem also didn’t slander Mustafa! Try agaiiin, botttt!
@@shamshulanuar7718 hahahahahahaha! No Shamshual BOTT! Mahidervan killled Mehmed in series 103 and in real history Hurrem had Nuthing to do with Mustafa’s deathh. Hurrem never slandered him, he was traiiitorrr
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hey BOTT!
✔️ If you are talking on SERIES, Mahidervan killled Mehmed in episode 103. Hurrem didn’t slander Mustafa, Mustafa openly defied and ignored orders of Suleiman multiple times, lied on many things-including his wedding. He also threattened Hurrem many times, he was also aware that his allies formed a secret group aiming to dethrone Suleiman and he gave them gifts and monney, instead of doing something. Sulleiman warned him many times to stop crossing the line- watch episode 100, but Musfafa still continued being rebbbell. So he got his end! Get over it!
✔️ In REAL HISTORY Hurrem also had N0tthing to do with Mustafa’s deathh, he was traiitorr and got killled by Suleiyiman.
So sit down and stop Copy-pasting!
@@gunescelik4207 you are blind to the fact that Mihrimah stole the seal?
And who told Sulaiamn that Mustapha was forging alliance with Shah of Persia?
She slandered Mustapha. She slandered Mahidevran too.
You just have To accept the fact.
Mahidevran really suffered throughout 😕
She had suffered all her life
ugh love this scene tears😢
My respect for Hurrem grew even more📈 She was smart, kind and brave woman, who Always knew her sins and always admitted them.
She forgave Mahidevran killing Mehmed with pure heart and asked same to Mahidervan. You can tell Mahidevran was speechless here, but she still never admitted killing Mehmed. This shows who was Superior with Morals here! Hurrem 🔝🔝🔝
@Nina chan No one asked you BOTTT
@Nina chan No one asked you BOTTT
@Nina chan Did we ask you? Botttttt
@@shoshokikocockerspaniel67ll8 why are you so rude
@@shamshulanuar7718 Shuttttuppp already, bottttt!
Compared to all sultana, Hurrem was the only sultana to have high self-awareness. After Hurrem Sultan, it so difficult to see any sultanah has self awareness like her when they gain power
- She didn't forget where she come from
- Still remember herself, as Ukrainian girl althought now she become powerful sultanah
- Aware of her mistakes, faults and sins
- Willingly, confessing her sins without disguise
Safiye also was real and never faked or complained not only Hurrem
Agree with you. But don't forget that the other sultanas were much younger when they were abducted from their homes. For example, Turhan was only 4/5 years old, she grew up with Atike Sultan. She probably don't even remember where she came from.
Hürem in the other hand was like 13/14 years old, not that young. She was servant if crimean Khan so she spoke her native language there.
@Leo I think the problem is that back then people and also in literature everybody called her "russian concubine" .
Both are great actresses. Love from India
This scene tried to anchor on Islamic value of forgiveness. Hurrem Sultan intended to seek forgiveness from her nemesis before it was too late. Her intention was pure and simple. Mahidevran Sultan appeared taken aback when Hurrem Sultan expressed her intention. She realised that it was a different Hurrem Sultan she knew. Mahidevran Sultan expected a haughty exchange from someone with power. That was why she tried to pre-empt Hurrem Sultan with her bitter response. Upon hearing Hurrem Sultan's forgiving her, she knew that was for real and had to accept it by forgiving Hurrem Sultan. So, both Sultanas practiced the noble values of humility inspite of what took place between them, and forgiving for the sake of their Lord. That's what Mahidevran Sultan mentioned to Fidan the consequence of not accepting and forgiving others. Nothing about being or believing being superior... I guess we need to at it in that angle. Both of the Sultanas went through tough times especially in the hands of each other in the past but willing to climb down and be humble to seek and give forgiveness.
The one and only yime Mahidevran bowed and gave respect to her enemy and i think she felt better at the end. You can only respect soemone who comes for your forgiveness and forgives you. And she finally found it
Both of these women put each other through awful things. But they both had human motivations behind what they did. So while I can criticise them, I won't call either one evil. Hürrem's forgiveness marks an important point in her healing and growing maturity throughout season 4. And Mahidevran not fully being able to shows that she's in a different place in the terms of processing her trauma.
Bbeacuse mahi had only son and hope and hurrem had many
@@cherubcuddly2573 And Mustafa's death was more recent than Mehmet's. So processing these traumas is going to be different.
@@cherubcuddly2573 what does it matter? Do we grieve sons according how many we have?
@@camiyep0lat7585 You've missed the point. Hürrem lost 2 sons so she had to endure the pain twice. And Mahidevran lost 1 son but in doing so lost everything. The point is that these are different traumas to process.
@@camiyep0lat7585 mahidevrans grieving is processed that way
Though the show portrayed women as homewreckers and killers, they real culprit is suleiman. The women had no choice but to fight for their survival.
Yeah. The show is quite sexist.
This is exactly why the Lord said a marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman and to keep the marriage bed pure. Not sorry, but there is no way a man can keep multiple women happy, we can see how it played all through history. Women are jealous and want to be the #1 in a man's life just as the Lord when he said "I am a jealous God, you shall none other before me", that's every women there is
This is exactly why the Lord said a marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman and to keep the marriage bed pure. Not sorry, but there is no way a man can keep multiple women happy, we can see how it played all through history. Women are jealous and want to be the #1 in a man's life just as the Lord when he said "I am a jealous God, you shall none other before me", that's every women there is
Here we have perfect example of why Hurrem was heads above🔝🔝 Mahidevran! Hurrem showed her generosity and humanity again, while forgiving Mahidervan killing Mehmed and always admitting her own sins.
Meanwhile we have bitter and hateful Mahidervan, never repenting, never admitting any of her sins, never admitting she killed Mehmed first, that she poisoned pregnant Hurrem, threatened her children, etc. She only blames people around her, whines and threatens.
Mahidervan deserved everything she got and even more, as Mihrimah told her in the last episode. Even Allah won’t forgive her! 🙏🏼
True
Yes, that means nothing. You did the sins, you don't get forgiveness.
It's too late Hurrem regret doesn't work, and apologies won't work. Rest in peace, Prince Mustafa, the oppressed
Hahahahahah! Really? That’s why Mahidervan lostt- she killed Mehmed and got her KARMAA
If you Mustafa was innocent then think about Mehmet
Lol You people know nothing about history, Mahidevran killed Mehmet in the show but in real life she had nothing to do with it, it’s all written in the historical books of the Ottoman Empire
@@MohammedKuwaitiQ8x21.3 really? And in real history Hurrem never killled Mustafa, soo? And Hurrem never came to Mahidevran, so? Try agaiiin😂😂😂😂
@@MohammedKuwaitiQ8x21.3 Bwahahahaha! What regret? Hurrem was saving her sons! Mahidevran killed Mehmed, did she regret?
And in real history Hurrem never came to Mahidevran, she never killed Mustafa. You BOtTT🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So sad that the original Hurrem actress left the show half way 😭 she was the one who kept the show going and interesting
the original only whispers cant talk normal.. she ugly too
Vahide was great as old Hurrem.
After all what Sulaiman did to Mahidvran she still waiting for him to come visit her 💔
You need a big heart like Mahidevran to forgive the person who killed your son...Litertally Mahidevran is ❤
But vice versa, in the series.
If you watch this whole series then you will come to know that how many times hurram suffer because of mahidevran. First she poisoned her then throw her in jail then burned her then murdered her elder son Mehmad
@@edithubtoday yes correct
@@edithubtoday hurrem can easily rid out of this war.She knew that if she would become a sultana she has to face mahi just as other concubine had to suffer who came after hurrem.Didn't hurrem torture them and tried to killed them?🙄
Same applies to Mahidevran who killed Mehmet first.. then only Hurrem targetted Mustafa.. at any point Hurrem avenged those who hurted her and not until someone did not hurt her 💕💕💕💕💕
This is very painful and heart wrenching scene
In the end, mahidevran was forced to bow her head down to her superior. This is not a meeting of two equal women , according to series because they were never equal, anymore. It's a meeting between an exslave who grew to free haseki sultan then to valide sultan and to a former 'haseki' in series who fell to a noone.
As the old hurrem sultan had to bow to hafsa valide sultan, it's mahidevrans turn to bow now.
Now because Hürrem isn't legal Valide Sultana. If she would be Mahidevran would bow. For now Hürrem act as Valide but isn't Valide, Suleiman is her wife not her son. You can try to change the story but the story is there
@@ramn_bennington but she is valide sultan and mahidevran is below so she bows.
@@DimSK. No, Hürrem is not yet legal Valide. She is the next Valide. In the 7:17 minute she makes a kind of bow to Mahidevran but I don't understand why. As a rule Mahidevran is no longer Haseki Sultan with Mustafa's death while Hürrem still is
@@ramn_bennington she is valide sultan and mahidevran bowed as she must
@@DimSK. real they bowed each other maybe for show respect after made peace
This clip is proof of Hurrem's big heart and strength. 🥰
Yes,it requires strength to forgive someone who killed your child☹
@Leo that's what differs Hurrem from Mahidevran 😁
@Leo precisely.
Her son was executed due to Hurrem's slander.
Mahidevran was stripped of her maintenance due to Hurrem's slander too
@@shamshulanuar7718 No, her son was executed for Mahidevran and his liiies!
She lost monney for treasoonn ahahahaha
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hey botttt, her son was executted because of Mahidevran’s mannipulations and Mustafaf’s liiies! He was traiitor! Hurrem never slandered them! Try harder! 🤣🤣🤣
@@shamshulanuar7718 No, BOTt! Hurrem never slandered mustafa or Mahidervan! They lost everything for treasoonnn!
Hurrem apologized sincerely and honestly but Mahidevran is still Saying forgiveness a punishment Then Hurrem also forgave her for killing Mehmet. Does she consider this forgiveness as punishment for herself? Forgiveness and apologize is a sign of human courage and Big heart. Mahidevran doesn't even understand this.
The reality is forgiveness sometimes but forget never
You mean to say you view Hurrem as better when she was the one slandering Mustapha, sending a concubine to poison Mustapha, slandering Mahidevran resulting in Mahidevran being deprived of comfort befitting her position as mother of a prince.
Wow
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hurrem never slandered mustafa, he was traiiitorrr, shamshual botttt
Mahidervan killlled mehmed.
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hurrem never slandered Mustafa, BOTTT! Try harder! He got killed for his liies and treasoonnn
@@gunescelik4207 hmnn..
Noted, Zombi
I LOVE how respectfully Hurrem silenced Mahidervan with her humility and kindness so that Mahidervan couldn’t even reply anything. Hurrem didn’t even need to raise a voice and we know Meryem’s Hurrem could and would never do this!
Hurrem proved she was heads above Mahidevran as Mahidervan never had humility or courage to admit her sins and killing Mehmed or to repent! Bravo Hurrem!👏🏼🛐
Lol 😂😂😂 because she had cancer 😂😂😂.
It's nothing about consciousness.
She was dying. If she didn't knew she had cancer she would never have done it
Very well done scenario, I enjoy the quality of dialogues.
What a great, brave and considerate woman Hurrem was! She Forgave Mahidervan killling Mehmed and also admitted her part to Mustafa’s death (on the show) even to Suleiman.
You can tell Mahidevran was speechless after that. She never admitted her sin of killing Mehmed or other sins, never regretted, she only blamed everyone else and considered herself a Saint. That’s why God punished her and gave her long life to suffer with her pain and depend materially on Selim-the woman’s son who she feuded with all life.✔️
A long life is a blessing from God. Both Mahidevran and Hurrem fought for their childeren. And in real history Memhmed died of sickness. So who is the real culprit here? If i was Hurrem i would ask for mustapha to be banished with his mother and not to be killed. Hurrem and Rustems sins are very big .... letting a father kil his son... i dont htink paradise awaited them i am sorry
@@reitamadhuban1016 bwahahahahahah! Whaaattt? In real history Hurrem had nutthing to do with mustfafa’s deathh, he was traiitor! So? And yes, Mahidervan killed Mehmed! Get outtta here!
@@reitamadhuban1016 what real history are you talking about U🤡🤡🤡 Mahdiervan killlled Mehmed first! And in real history Hurrem never particiipated in Mustagafa’s death! He was traiitorr! And who are you to talk on Hurrem? She is protttecting her sons! If mustafa lived he would kill her sons you🤡
@@reitamadhuban1016 what history are you reading, botttt? 😆😆😆😆 In real history Hurrem didn’t partiicipate in Mustfa’s deathh, he was traiitor!
And whoooo are you to judge Hurrem? She was protttecting her sons. Mustfa would killl all her sons that’s fact! Get outtta here! Hurrem is in heaveenn and loved by everyone!
@@reitamadhuban1016 Get outtta here BOTT and read history you🤡🤡🤡
Hurrem the best Sultana ,she knew her mistakes and us forgiveness to everyone.even to Ebrahim pasha.
And we all know that no other person except Vahide’s Hurrem would do this scene with so much grace and poise! 🛐👑💜
Hurrem always had courage and humility to admit her sins and to forgive her enemies. She never called herself innocent or victim. She always said- hurt me or my family, I will hurt you back! 🦾
Hurrem listened to Mahidervan’s accusations, whining and left her completely speechless by admitting her part in Mustafa’s death. She was generous and strong enough to Forgive Mahidervan killing Mehmed. You can tell Mahidrvan was left speechless after this!
However sadly we also see Mahidervan being bitter and hateful per usual, not admitting her sins-in particular killing Mehmed, not repenting. Constantly blaming Hurrem, Suleiman and everyone around her in her unhappiness. Yazzekkk!
In the end Hurrem left happy this world, loved and surrounded by beloved husband and family. Even after 500 + years she is loved and respected. Mahidervan lived many more years in loneliness and on mercy of Selim-her enemy’s son, as Hurrem predicted.
God knew who deserved happiness more and God is never wrong! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Speak for yourself. People hate Hurrem. That witch deserved to see her sons die because she had an innocent prince murdered
Love the background music
I have heard many times Hurrem’s haters asking: Hurrem did many evil sins, killed people, etc. why do you put her above others, why you still support her?
THERE YOU GO ⬆️ Yes, Hurrem committed sins, yes she killed if she had to, BUT she always did it for protecting her children and Suleiman, and she ALWAYS admitted her sins, she was NEVER a coward.
Hurrem admitted her contribution to Mustafa’s death to Suleiman- tell me who would dare to do that? And now Hurrem admitted it to Mahidevran, she ALSO forgave Mahidervan killing Mehmed-her son in a way that left Mahidervan speechless.
And what did Mahidervan do? She started accusing Hurrem as always, never admitted killing Mehmed, never regretted. Same whining and blaming.
That’s the DIFFERENCE between these two women. That’s why we love and support Hurrem more and always will! Queen from Top to Toe! 👑👑👑
Was she protecting her children?
If what she presumed was right why on earth Mustapha intervened Janissary who were about to slaughter Selim for insulting them.
Why in earth would Mustapha tried to to stop the rivalry between Beyazid and Selim?
Why on earth Mustapha did not dethrone Sulaiman when the latter was unconscious.
Why on earth Mustapha rushed to Sulaiman's tent to prevent some spies who were on verge of killing Sulaiman?
@@shamshulanuar7718 Hi shossho botttt! Mustafa never saved Suleiman or Selim. He planned to dethrone Suleiman and was always jeaalouss of his brothers! He got caught and lost! Cryyy now!
@@shamshulanuar7718 Get outtt from my post you🤡🤡🤡 Mustafa was the one who rebbbelled against Father, he was the one who paid Jannissaries against Selim and he got caught! He wanted to save himself! Get outtta here you🤡
@@shamshulanuar7718 Mustafa never intervened for them, he was the one who paid jannisaries against Selim and got caught. He also never helpped Suleiman, he lied and rebbeled against him many times! So stop tagging people and shutttupp!
@@dakotaashleyn what nonsense
At first episodes, everyone was trying to stop the little hurrem hatun from disrespecting mahidevran. In episodes 124-133, it's the opposite. As soon as mahidevran hatun dared to disrespect the grand valide sultan, she was exiled. Seeing her in this condition makes me happy, she deserved everything that happened to her.
Sometimes the greatest punishment you can give to your enemy is to forgive her...
And Hurrem forgave mahidevilll killling her son Mehmed! Mahidevill got karrrmaa!
Hurrem forgave Mahidevilll killing her son! She showed she is 🔝🔝🔝🔝 than Mahidevilll can be
Both were guilty...
i love every details of this episode... very captivating...
Can anyone please tell me what's the name of this background track 8:00?? Please 🙏?
In history Mehmet was died with smallpox
And in history Hurrem also didn’t have something to do with Mustafa’s death, so?
And in history Hurrem never contributed in killing Mustafa, so? This is series for drama.
@Eralp Erikci hahahahahahaha! No she didn’t! History confirms! In history it’s said there are no historical facts confirming her participation. And I am from Turrkkey! Now shutttuppp🥱🥱🥱🥱
@Eralp Erikci That’s a liiie! Shossshooo! History confirms that there are no historical facts showing Hurrem was related to this:
👇🏼👇🏼
“While the stories about Hürrem's role in the execution of İbrahim and Mustafa are popular, none of them are actually based on primary sources. All other depictions of Hürrem, beginning with comments by sixteenth and seventeenth-century Ottoman historians as well as European diplomats, observers, and travelers, are highly derivative and speculative in nature. Since these people-neither Ottomans nor foreign visitors-were not allowed to enter the inner circle of the many walled harems, they relied heavily on the testimonies of servants or courtiers or popular gossip circulating in Istanbul. Even the reports of the Venetian ambassadors (baili) at Suleiman's court, the most comprehensive and objective first-hand Western source on Hürrem to date, were often filled with the authors' own interpretations of harem rumors. Most of the other sixteenth-century Western sources about Hürrem that are considered highly reliable today-for example, Ogier de Busbecq's Turcicae epistolae (English: The Turkish Letters), are the work of Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand I in the Porte between 1554 and 1562. Ambassador ; The account of the murder of Prince Mustafa by Nicholas de Moffan; Turkey historical chronicles of Paolo Giovio; and Luidgi Bassano's travel story based on hearsay”
So READ HISTORY and shutttt
@Eralp Erikci That’s a liiie, shosshooo! We all know this is your fakeey account😂😂😂
History literally says that there are no historical facts confirming her participation in mustfafa’s deathh, ONLY RUMORS! Mustafa was a traiitor and that’s also in history!
Oh and in Turkkey no one even knows who mustafa is, if someone heard of him only because of MC series! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hurrem’s humility, kindness is 📈📈📈🔝🔝🔝 The fact that she bravely admitted participation in Mustafa’s death (Show Version) first to Suleiman and then to Mahidervan proves why she is loved by milllions people worldwide, even though she does certain evill things.
Mahidervan showed that she never could admit her sins and never will repent anything. She dismissed the question like she never killed Mehmed🤦🏻♀️
But that’s ok, Mahidervan can keep her mouth shut but God Almighty knew truth and puniished her worst way possible. There is nothing worse than dying alone and being on mercy of the woman’s son you hated all llife.
@Nina chan bwahahahahah! Mahidervan killled Mehmed in episode 103. Now shutttupppp!
@Nina chan On the show Mahidervan killled Mehmed in episode 103
@Nina chan Then watch episode 103 U🤡 Mahidervan poiisoned Mehmed and killled him!
@Nina chan And on the show Mahidervan killled Mehmed in episode 103
Which episode plz
Although Mahidevran does no longer hold higher statues in Ottoman hierarchy after Mehmet's death, Hürrem still gave curtsey to her...classy as always. ❤
She is soo pure.... Every quality of a queen she have ❤
The greatest lie in this series is that Mahidevran ordered the death of Prince Mehmet ... and Jehangir died of self-imposed hunger and grief.... If I were Mahidevran I will never forgive Hurrem.
Oh really? 😂😂😂 watch episode 103 then! And if you are talking on History, then read history!
✔️ In real history Hurrem never killled Mustafa
✔️ In real history Cihangir diied of Chroniic illness! Hurrem’s children haven’t met Mustafa even twice. They were never close.
✔️ In real history Hurrem never came to Mahidevran!
Try agaiiin😂😂😂
What are you blllabbering?
Mahidervan killled Mehmed in Episode 103!
And if you are talking on real history then read it better!
- Hurrem had nothiing to do with Mustafa’s death.
-Cihangir died with Breathing issues that he had because of Hunnchback.
- Hurrem never came to Mahidervan to forgive or ask forgiveness!
Again, what are you bllabbering? 🤦🏻♀️
I am sorry…. are we watching same show? 🤔🤔
@@camiyep0lat7585 ahahahaha you believe all the things in the series?
Hurrem is a murderer...That's history... read the real history not the fake one brought out by Hurrem's descendants.
Jehangir died of grief not any breathing issues..
Hurrem may have never come to Mahidevran there is nothing in the history to show that. But after the death of Hurrem, Suleiman allowed Mahidevran more income.
So I am not blabbering I am telling facts.
@@jeanneaubert4193 all you are saying are lies spread by Hurrem's Descendants I don't want to talk to liars
Does anybody know why did they change the actresses..?
Finally Hurrem earns a little respect from me. I don't remember this scene but glad I finally saw it. Not sure why Hurrem blamed Mahidevean for her second son's death though; wasn't he upset with Suleiman for murdering Mustafa?
But i find hurrem selfish here...she enjoyed all her life with sultan's love and now she wanted pardon from mhedevran too for peaceafter death......she was so clever and selfish
*Hürrem in episode 104*: I don't forgive.
*Hürrem in episode 133*: I forgive you.
And that is a character journey, people.
@@domi1992ish Yes
Not for mahidevran.
@@DimSK. This was about Hürrem?
@@hurremsultannss yes ik
@@DimSK. They have different journeys for processing their trauma to be fair.
I respect and love Mahidevran so much
For what? For being eviiil and killing Mehmed? You🤡🤡🤡🤡
For what? For being eviil and killing innocent Mehmed? 🤣🤣🤣
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 Really? For what? For killing Mehmed? For never admitting her sins? For being eviilll? Bwahahhaa
@@danikameric9236 I don’t have to explain or take your permission as to who I like, it’s really none of your business lol
@@MohammedKuwaitiQ8x21.3 hahahahahaha! For what? You must be 12 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would like to see the old young Hurrem with an.older version until the end.
One of the best episodes! Think I'm going to have to watch frome the beginning for the 3rd time. So addicted to this show. I cant get into the kosem series.
And don't forget that Mehmed was killed with Mahi's order , hurem may be rensponsible for slander Mustafa but it was Suleiman's order ...and even then when Suleiman killed Mustafa, Hurrem was sad and cried ....No one was sinless in that series but Hurrem suffered the most ...I mean even with Hatice , Hurrem saved her baby and Hatice forgot it.... Hurrem tried to be kind with everyone but everyone turned against her without even knowing her just by her name .... it's called survival..
The reward for Mahidevran suffering is she saw Hurrem, Sulieman, Mihrimah, Selim dying one by one
Really? Is this her “reward”? 🤣🤣 The one who suffered was Mahidervan dyiing alone and no one by her side. The people you named died being loved and surrounded with family. Even after 500 years they are loved and resppected, unliike Mahideviil.
The *Reward? 😂😂😂 Mahideviil’s fan would say that! 😂 They diied being great sultans surrounded with families and beloved people, they lived happy lives and left themselves on Golden pages. Mahidervan dieed alone. Learn facts better 😆😆😆😆
In my country we say when somebody lives long life and suffers in any way (like Mahidevran) that person is bad that neither god wants them.
Interesting to see Mahidevran not assuming any guilt for herself, even in tje end !
I forgive you Hurrem affidiuourum ❤ .
I loved this scene so much, I watched it 500 times her ladyship the actress of older Hurrem reminds my late mother face .😢😢😢
I cried so many times at this scene or others in wich the old Hurrem plays both of them they are 2 great lady's of the Turkish Cinema , at least they arrived like in 1001 nights for ever in all the territories theyl old they ottoman empire ,it is just a magnificent feeling and honour to see them may they be blessed for ever with serenity of respect for both Sultaniim😊 I will pray all night for your health😊
I enjoyed neither Hurrems nor Mahidevrans personality in the drama. I understand that both have their reasons for their behaviour, but in the end neither of them accepted the fact, that for the sake of the dynasty, Suleiman had to take other women to his side. Both went on and on and on about how they love Suleiman and how they see themselves as his perfect companion, at some point it tired me out to watch them be at each others throats. I bow before their actresses though, doing an amazing job and giving life to a drama that has been a good entertainment nonetheless. Still my most favourite character will always be Sumbul!
Valide sultan knows what she did unlike mahidevran
Do you still live among us ? Boy , i' ve missed you and your imaginary titles
@@eirinistalos I'm saying only truths here and that's what I'm doing here, valide hurrem sultan
@@DimSK. this can be accepted only if you tell me where it is written .
The word valide was used by everyone these days instead of the word ane which meant mother . That's why you hear this word from everyone in the series . Hurrems' children called their mother valide'm , Mustafa called his mother valide'm , Shah hubans' daughter called her mother valide'm , Nurbanus' kids called their mother valide'm, Mihrimahs' kids called their mother valide'm.
VALIDE is not a royal title, it means mother , this is what is confusing you !
Valide sultan used to be the mother of the REIGNING sultan . Those mothers who died before their sons' accession to the throne were NEVER given the title of valide sultan.
Hurrem sultan died at 15 / 04 / 1558 . Her son , Selim the second reigned from
7 September 1566 to 15 December 1574 . This means that he became a sultan 8 years after his mother's death ! How could ever Hurrem be called ' Valide sultan , since when she was alive it was her HUSBAND , Suleiman that was the sultan NOT her son !
HER OFFICIAL TITLE WAS HASEKI HURREM SULTAN.
Can something be more clear than this to you ?
@@eirinistalos she was valide sultan everyone knows that
Haseki hurrem valide sultan
@@DimSK. valide sultan which means mother to the reigning sultan to whom ? Her husband ? Aise hafsa sultan was valide sultan to her son Suleiman .
To which sultan, was Hurrem, valide sultan - queen mother ?
Please , just tell me this !
i couldnt have thought that there is a way that they forgive each other
It is difficult for us to die if someone does not forgive us and it is difficult for us to live if we do not forgive others - the beauty of islam
If they could have lived harmony with each other before the death oof many souls could have been prevented.
Hurrem bowed to mahidevran . Humility I'd say even though she ranked levels above her . I guess being respectful of the fact that mahidevran was once Suleiman's principal lady and mother of his first ( eldest surviving ) son . If they can be respectful to each other so can their fans
Mahidevrvan never was Suleiman’s wiife, Hurrem was First wiife.
@@jeanneaubert4193 I did not mean wife . You can call it partner , lady in waiting , mother of child or anything . Definitely hurrem was his only legal wife
It was not a bow. More like a goodbye to her enemy which she respects.
Mahidevran also bowed her head in the end
She knows how to keep level, unlike mahidevran who humilated once again herself here.
@@abdulwasay1750 It's just a sign of respect, Hürrem didn't bow to anyone except Suleiman. In real life, Mahidevran and Hürrem didn't bow to eachother. When Hürrem became Haseki Sultan, Mahidevran allready left with Mustafa and they probably never saw eachother again. But tehnically, if they would meet, Mahidevran would have to bow.
Abdul
She bowed as a gesture of respect, I presume. And to mend ties
Finally she accords respect to a lady who gave Sulaiamn his first living son to reach adulthood.
I want this scene with Meryem as Hurrem
It will be big boom
Epic scene ❤️
At first I thought that Selim shouldn’t have helped mahidebran with all her hate and hurting people but I see that he was being more forgiving like his mother, that was the best thing to do. They ask forgiveness …mahidbran never would do the same.
It had to do with Islamic principle.
To accord respect to your father's consort.
please tell me how I can watch this series
i think everyone in teh comments has misjudged the young hürrem. despite all the insults, she always had been extremely classy and respected the customs even against her biggest enemies
That’s why Milllions people and I always loved Hurrem - she is strong, brave woman who knew her sins and was brave enough to admit them to Suleiman or others.
Mahidervan proved again what a coward and hypocrite she was- instead of admitting her sins, especially Killing Mehmed she stayed quiet and never admitted or repented.
No wonder Lord puniished her in rightful way- she died alone with no one by her side and on Hurrem’s son’s mercy! 🙏🏼
Mahi still thinks she's morally better than Hurrem, but Hurrem is actually apologizing, not to make Mahi suffer.
Because in Islam, one needs to seek apology to anyone whom she/ he commited unjust act before the sins can be forgiven by the God
@@shamshulanuar7718 Really bottt? Then why doesn’t Mahi apologize?
@@shamshulanuar7718 Then Mahideviil needs to apologize milllion times for all her sinss!
@@lilymasood3O67 I must say that you are very rude. I take it your parents fail to give proper upbringing to you.
Why the need to be rude.
Watch closely. Mahidevran forgave Hurrem.
You asked why Mahidevran did not ask forgiveness.
Is that not very clear. Hurrwm planned for Mustapha's execution.
why on earth Hurrem begged forgiveness? Because she was aware that she committed sinful acts against Mustaoha,Mahidevran.
In Islam, one must ask forgiveness on wrongs done against others before the sins to be pardon by almighty God.
I am not glorifying Mahidevran. But why on earth she must visit Hurrem to ask for apology on things she did not do
@@gunescelik4207 you too must look at the mirror
They were both captives of the system.
mahidevran suffered a lot.. hurrem take away all the things from her but still she forgive her cz she is kind hearted person.. everyone in this comment section told that mahidevran killed mehmet but it's not true.. mehmet was killed by pox.. but mustafa was killed by the conspiracy of hurrem ,rustam and mehrima.. mustafa loved his brothers he was very honest person.. hurrem and mahidevran both were not innocent they poisoned each other when they are pregnant.. but hurrem was more cleaver and more guilty.. mahidevran deserved to be lawful wife of sulaiman.. but sulaiman fell in blind love and didn't see right or wrong that's why he punished mustafa😢
Actually it's not historically known that Hürrem was involved in Mustafa's death. It's just a speculation.
Mahidevran had me in the first half,not gonna lie.
Like she stills blames Hurrem Sultan for everything and doesn't admits her sins or that she forgives Hurrem Sultan?
@@kaigoukhongsai8880 exactly!
Why couldn't the writers make her forgive her Hurrem and not say this? It was unnecessary 🤦🏻♀️
@@blossomroses4323 because writers make it clear: mahidevran is the villain and she got what she deserved. Here we see that she deserved everything that happened to her.
@@blossomroses4323 this is one of the many reasons why I didn't like season 4. They should have just made Mahidevran admit her mistake and that they forgive each other without the exchange of those words.
@@DimSK. honestly the only villain in the series for me is the oppressive system in which both Hurrem and Mahidevran tried to survive. But we can both agree that Mahi was not strong enough to "forgive"Hurrem.
See how youssef tried to give hurrem an evil eye but then he had no choice but to bow in respect???? Lmao hurrem is 👑
I found some familiar words "kabul" (accept)and " hawale"(surrendered to something)...language is a strange thing
It was only game of power more power more recognised and more graceful great writer
This woman got consumed by her hatred all through her life! She is the sole cause of her misery.