Martial Arts Instructor Reacts: Legend of Drunken Master - Jackie Chan vs Ken Lo/Ho-Sung Pak
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Martial Arts Instructor Reacts: Legend of Drunken Master - Jackie Chan vs Ken Lo/Ho-Sung Pak
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"Be afraid of any full grown man that can do the splits"
Highly underrated advice!
In standing ,that means he might have some leg techniques.....😂😂😂
I would be more afraid a Berserk angry man that don't care about pain and only want destruction. 8:58
Be afraid of the man who blocks your kick with a headbutt lol
@@jasonceee136 this ! Definitely this !
@@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 or how one of my former instructors used to say :
"You know what you do when you fight against a very angry man ? You evade and make sure he doesnt hit you point blank. Only idiots and drunks fight bulldozers."
The Eight Drunken Immortals Technique from Drunken Master (1978):
7:39 Lu Dongbin - the drunkard w/ inner strength
8:39 Zhang (Chan) Gualao - the drunkard w/ the swift double-kicks
9:10 Lan Caihe - the drunkard w/ the sudden deadly waist attack
9:17 He (Ho) Xiangu - the drunken woman flaunting her body
9:29 Li Tieguai - the drunken cripple w/ the powerful right leg
9:36 Han Xiangzi - the drunken flute player w/ the powerful wrists
9:44 Cao (Tso) Guojiu - the drunkard w/ the powerful throat lock
9:54 Zhongli (Jun) Quan - the drunkard holding a pot in his arms
Jackie also plays Lu in The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) under the character's birth name.
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@@chrishoo2528 👍
Good looking out for the information-I haven’t seen this movie in many years so I didn’t remember who the 8 were
forbidden kingdom was really fun when i was younger, but i really only just rewatch the fight between him and jet li now.
@@animeman84 The English dub of DM2 unfortunately doesn't mention these characters.
Jackie goes through all of the 8 drunken genii/immortals. EPIC.
Yeaaah trruuuee
This. Was hoping to get a more in-depth explanation of the moves.
Watching this makes me want to watch for bidden kingdom 😸
Yeah totally!! I think they go over the 8 forms in the first Drunken Master movie.
@@Cyborous forbidden fist was and will forever be the shit
Yes, Jackie did go through the coals twice. He’s just built different. Absolute dedication to his craft, all for the love of cinema. His legend will never die
And you can see it yourself when watching the movie, since the credits aren't that long after this fight sequence. It took me a few times to realize they weren't showing that part twice, but instead showing he did it twice. Insane.
at the very least he had his hands wrapped for that stunt
still nearly burnt through the wraps though! nuts
@@celfhelp His hands weren't wrapped. He wore gloves to protect them.
I've been waiting for this one. This fight has everything I could ever want - superb choreographs, spot-on techniques and moves, dangerous stunts, props utilisation, pure slugfest, comedic fight, etc.
While Jackie is best known for his daring stunts and parkour, but if we focus on his fighting, I'd say this scene pretty much captures the very essence of his abilities and skills. I love it so much!
Heis characters in movies is what I call a smart fighter, as in he isn't someone extremely skilled in a certain style, he'll just use anything around him and make it useful, or if he doesn't need to fight, he just runs haha. He's definitely my favourite actor overall, if I was to divide by genre he isn't at the top of each genre (comedy/action/martial arts etc.) , but overall, for me I don't think any actors really come close to him. Also just seeing how hardworking and genuinely kind he comes accross as is incredible.
This fight ruined all fight scenes for me for at least until 2010. Nothing else came close to the broken rhythm, intricacy, creativity and viciousness I saw here. Some fights achieved 2 or 3 out those 4. But none reached perfection in all 4.
The only thing lacking was the precise body-mechanical power of Bruce Lee. Something so subtle it was silly of me to expect it in an entertainment medium.
Yeah, it's my favourite fight scene. It shows an incredible fight with a ton of cool moves, environmental use, silly moves, humor, ups & downs, etc. There's a ton of great little details as well.
Jackie started as a martial art actor, but then he realized everyone could fight, it's the comedy that attracts audiences, that's what got him started a trend of Kungfu comedy.
@@tomarnold7284 He also did porn though. Not sure if it was before or after he started his martial arts career.
One of the greatest movies of all time. The amount of talent and effort that went into this, it’s unreal. I could rematch these fight scenes so many times
Yoooo this is legit my favorite style and fight scene… when he busted it out in Forbidden kingdom this was all i thought about😅
And, I've watched this fight scene probably more than any other fight
@@assortedramblings9132 Get Jackie into dragon ball z univerese. This man is literally a real life anime character with his performance. Probably the only one that could pull off a real life dbz movie
@@sasaha8389 he’s old man.
@@TheHailstorm77 when he was yound he could have done a dbz movie. Maybe use deaging AI tech to make him younger in post
Yeah, Jackie prefers to do practically all his stunts raw. Hands down for his team for making all his scenes spectacular and entertaining.
although that resulted in Jackie often had to be hospitalized in-between recording process.
he even have his own medical team following to every shooting location.
some of the acrobatics was wires though
You can feel the POWER, the PAIN, the EXCITEMENT and FUN in Jackie 's movies, you won't find ALL of them in any other movies.
Oh my gosh, I saw your reactions to the other Jackie Chan fights just yesterday and I was like "dang, I really hope he checks out Drunken Master 2 one day" and HERE WE ARE! This is my favorite fight scene ever in the history of film! My favorite bit (but how can you choose?) is where the dude swings a chair at Jackie and Jackie just DISINTEGRATES it. Such a classic!
My favourite part is when he just walks away and smashes stuff.
Jackie is such a good actor, producer, fighter, comedian, stunt man. All combined in one perfect Chan. This is a mastery I belive noone will reach ever again. I have the atmost respect to his work. Just all the injuries he went through... It is just unbeliveable. I like modern action movies. But just few people do their stunts on their own. Just few people actually can fight. And nobody can do it like Jackie Chan.
That fight scene in that movie is probably my favorite fight scene from any movie I've seen. And you gotta love old school martial arts movies where the camera ISN'T super zoomed in with insane amounts of jump cuts like most action movies made in the past 15 years have, so you as the viewer can clearly see what's actually going on.
In Jackie's autobiography "My life in Action" he says that his nickname in the Chinese stunt world was "double boy" because he would do a ridiculously dangerous stun and then do it again because he thought he could do it better the second time. Jackie climbing through hot coals twice to get the perfect shot is pretty much on theme.
Probably the best fight scene ever. Legit, never seen a fight that impresses me much as this one does every time I watch it
Yes, the fire pit is 100% real. 🔥
Ya its in the bloopers at the end lol.. got burnt asf. You litearlly can't get stuff like this anymore because insurance lol.
@@npcimknot958 You could probably get close to it with some computer generated or even practical effects.
In Terminator 2, when Arnold throws the biker into the kitchen and he lands on the stove you can see smoke being blown through the edges to appear as though he's being burned. So long as the camera isn't focusing too much on it most people won't notice.
Jackie goes a bit too far with some of his stunts, and has kind of paid for it with a lot of damage to his body.
@@npcimknot958 JC was banned by insurance companies in HK. But Hollywood doesn't allow filmmaking w/o insurance.
@@EricLing64 Different scenes, different purposes. The T2 version wasn't meant to impress the audience, but the DM2 stunt was (note the slow motion). Even for those who don't notice, there's still a subtle difference on how they receive the scene. The DM2 version is likely more memorable compared to the T2 hand burning for most who saw both sequences.
@@EricLing64 You're right, but Jackie is also from a different school of performance than modern film. Circus is amazing because it's real, and no circus performer goes a full career without being injured. The thrill of doing something that should be impossible and is way too dangerous for an untrained person is part of why the art is beautiful. And, no, Jackie shouldn't pressure other people into doing ridiculous things for the cameras, but the spectacle of real humans doing things no human should do is part of the entertainment when you watch Jackie Chan in his prime diving off of tall objects and punching through glass.
After seeing this originally over 20 years ago, I remember thinking I wanted to see the "kick guy", as I thought of him then (learning about the bodyguard stuff is super interesting), be the hero in his own series of movies where he overcomes the disapproval of his masters at his insistence in using only kicks, and disregarding all teachings that do not relate to kicking, lol. He's still one of my favorite "final bosses" of a martial arts movie ever.
I don't think Ken Lo has ever had a main role, he's more of a supporting actor.
4:02 Chan used leverage and counterbalancing with his raised leg along with a strong core to keep himself up during the sequence's end, then his opponent pushed him back up after a couple of seconds. He rarely used wires, especially in his early work because he knew what his body could do to a ridiculous level. This whole scene, that's pure body control on Chan's part, no wires.
I read Chan's autobiography earlier this year. Apparently in the 70s (I think) his first big success was that there was a director who wanted an "impossible" stunt done with no wires. Since Jackie had trained since the age of 5 or something, all day every day, he volunteered to try it, pulled it off, and some demand for him as a stuntman skyrocketed
100%. Earlier in the movie, Jackie does a flip and lands on his back across the back of a prone opponent while drinking from a bottle. The opponent stands up, trying to throw Jackie off, but Jackie just stands there leaning backward at this like impossible 90 degree angle. Incredible strength and balance!
Nah Jackie definitely used wires throughout his career, though explicitly not in a wuxia way. He talks about it in his documentary called "My Stunts" and shows examples of him using wires realistically. Now he did use wires sparingly compared to wuxia films, but in this film particularly he uses it quite a bit.
@@Daxcheese555 Oh yeah? Fair nuff, duly noted
In his early career he never used wires by the time this came out he was around 40 so there could be some minor wire work but a lot of his wire work wasnt related to his fight scenes or stunts one trick he used was in explosions a wire would be used to pull people away as if theyd been blown off there feet
This was my favorite Jackie Chan AND martial arts movie, and watching this again now I think its still my favorite.
I watched this exact scene a ungodly amount of times as a kid, and mimic a lot of the moves as well.
I remember watching a lot of HK movies as a kid during Chinese New Year, every year. Our local TV channels often play these a lot during that period, movies with Jet Li, Sammo Hung, Jackie Chan, Stephen Chow, Cheng Ekin, Andy Lau, etc. The feeling of seeing him fall into the fire left a huge impression (of pain), I'll never forget that scene. He really did that, there were outtakes when the credits rolled showing fire extinguishers on standby and rushing to him after they cut the cameras.
This one, and the one with Benny Urquidez ("Wheels on meals"), I think are the best of the greatest fights I ever saw!!
Thanks Max!
and Brad Allan (R.I.P.) in Gorgeous
@@idonotexist2619 hell yeah! ..how could I forget it......my bad.
Thanks!
And "Dragons Forever" is great too
@@idonotexist2619 What? I didn't realize until now. He was only 48. RIP to the great stuntman.
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If you haven't you should watch that ^
Last fight from Jackie Chan's Young Master. It's amazing.
of all the kung fu, drunken boxing is by far the coolest of them all. i give zero fucks about how effective it might be or not, it's just so freakin' amazing to watch.
Jackie Chan's fights are like amazing dance sequences disguised as fight scenes. The flow of them and the rhythm, they just are unmatched. He is an amazing martial artist and dancer.
1. Jackie’s bodyguard Lo grew up in Thailand and had some Muay Thai background, so it was easier for him to do those crazy kicks.
2. The words on the fan says “The water that bears the boat is the same that swallows it up”, which is a Chinese old saying the character’s father uses to keep his son in mind that even though alcohol can make your drunken style fighting more powerful, yet you have to keep in mind not to drink it too excessively.
3. The character was drinking industrial alcohol, so after the fight he lost his sight for awhile.
Didn't he just pass out and the movie ended
@@Randoman No, everyone celebrated him as a hero...as they carried him along in a full body cast because that fight completely wrecked him lol. This is one movie worth owning if you love martial arts.
In the original ending, in the american cut he just has a hell of a hangover, they originally showed the original ending but audiences HATED it
@@DylanSimmonspercussion97 Yeah that doesn't sound very good. I own it on a dvd collection and got the Chinese ending, I think.
@@camendiv "No, everyone celebrated him as a hero...as they carried him along in a full body cast because that fight completely wrecked him lol. " - No that was in Young Master
There is a subbed/dubbed version. The best part about the dubbed version is Jackie dubbed his own lines.
I own the dubbed version. Yes, it definitely sounds like Jackie's voice.
it's the ONLY good thing about the dubbed version, they really messed the rest. Changing the music, changing the sound effects, ruined everything.
Unrealistic fights are the best when you can tell the one doing them actually knows everything he's doing.
"I don't use any special effects, I AM the special effect !" Jackie Chan
this guy does not break or set limits, he's damn way beyond that, his name will live on forever
This is the best fight scene ever put to film in my opinion. I appreciate hearing the original Chinese sounds in this one. My DVD has the english dub with replaced sound effects and music.
The scene where he runs toward him face to face actually had to be filmed a second time because in the first take they misjudged and hit each other pretty hard.
in the actual storyline Jackie's character suffers brain damager from the industrial fluid, making it even darker. Even though it's one of the best fight scenes ever.
Seems odd to me that even in a movie they'd give Wong Fei-Hung (permanent) brain damage.
I think at the end of the movie, other characters say he's just joking to mess with people.
It wasn‘t brain damage, he was temporarily blind as far as I can tell from the original language.
@@jensdroessler3575 That... makes sense. Drinking methanol can do that. Also often leaves some sort of permanent damage.
@@azofeclipse I know. But in the movie they said it'll be only temporary. Yes they showed him in the end acting like brain damaged (this part they cut from the "uncut" US release), but since he alteady was to the doctor who said the blindness is temporaray AND he is a well-known figure in chinese history, I'd say he's pulling a prank on the others. Sure looks like it.
One of the best things I loved about this movie and this scene was how Jackie did everything for real. I have the DVD and watched the behind the scenes and the part where he got sent into the coals, HE REALLY DID THAT SHIT!!!!! He did have some kind of fire resistant gel on him as he did it but still. Total commitment to this movie, his craft and his work ethic. I could watch this whole movie all day long and still be in complete awe
Ken Lo studied Muay Thai and was a Tae Kwon Do champion before working for Jackie Chan. He probably rehearsed this scene for 3 months but he already had martial arts training before this
This is by far my favorite Jackie Chan movie, because of the light hearted fights and the brutal fights. It is a movie that covers a very wide arc of their film making potential.
This is honestly one of my favourite movies of all time.
This film was released in '94 and re-released here in 2001 at the movie theaters. That fight scene is one of his best. Apparently there's a scorpion and eel style of fighting. My favorite style from Jackie is Snake in the eagle's shadow (A combination of snake fist and cat's claw). That was a film done in 1978.
The first Drunken Master movie, while not nearly as good, enumerates all the individual styles that make up drunken boxing.
7:39 made me laugh harder than half the comedy movies in existence ever will
The entire thing's a gold mine of choreography, but I adore the back-slide at 7:57 when Jackie gets hit. It's a really common trope of anime to see someone take a hit and just slide back several feet in a standing position and then shrug off the impact. It's great to see the same thing in live action.
Drunken master 2 was my favorite martial arts movie until I saw the first drunken master. Both are basically perfect tho with the right mix of comedy and great fights.
My favorite martial movie of all time. Great breakdown.
Jackie has got to have some of the best most exciting fight scenes ever!
It's great that when he gets angry he goes through all the fight styles from the first movie uninterruptedly, just flowing.
I remember when I watched this the first time when I was a kid.
I almost faint because I could not breathe for to laugh so hard. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve probably seen this movie 50 times, it was one of my favorites when I was a kid. I was always blown away by Jackie’s technique.
The last act of this movie was amazing. The firepit scene always made me tear up!
What I read about Ken Lo being in Drunken Master 2 was that he was already quite good, and probably already had years of training (to build upon). Ken Lo initially didn't want to be in the movie because he was Jackie Chan's bodyguard, something to the effect that he didn't want to showcase what he could do, so any would be attackers of Jackie Chan wouldn't have a clue what to expect. (This is just what I remember having read, may or may not be true.)
Iirc, bro trained Muay Thai and I think he even fought a few times.
The final rooftop fight in the movie "Who am I?" (1998) Looks like a recreation of this fight. Lots of similarities. 2 vs 1 fight. One guys does amazing kicks. It's similar but the concept if a bit different. Seemed that Jackie Chan was building that fight off of this one. And then "Gorgeous" (1999), Jackie Chan used the stunt double who performed kicks from who am I and make a dedicated fight just between both of them. Another amazing fight scene.
I cannot express how fucking flawless this fight is, it is absolute perfection. I have probably watched it more than any other fight at this point, and I love it every time
Great reaction bro! Glad to hear your insight, whether it's on the techniques or the action. Your reaction to the fire was priceless. Yes, it was done twice. Outtakes are included in the end credits. As for Ken Lo, perhaps he had a couple of months to prepare. But he also has a background in Muay Thai. He has starred in some of Jackie's other films and was in Donnie Yen's Special ID. Always loved this scene and watched it religiously back in the day. Again, thank you for your commentary. Keep it coming!
Ken Lo has a very funny (and creepy!) moment in City Hunter. You see his flexibility in that scene too.
Muay Thai and TKD correct? He had some legit kickboxing fights (I think?)
I remember seeing this at a California theater with my girlfriend back in 2000. Still my favorite fight seen today.
Yep, he actually does his stunts, as with the coals. He had some baddd burns as a result. And some of those scenes, like the one where he was standing on the other guy's chest, took an insane number of shots to get it right (balancing with someone standing on you).
This is always an incredible fight to watch.
There's another with drunken Kung Fu movie that's really great too, True Legend. Although the drunken Kung Fu bit doesn't come into play until the end, it's really touching and some great fight scenes too. Love to see your take on some of those scenes, mostly from the final battles.
That's the movie based on the creator of the Drunken fist kung fu. That was great movie and you're right about the fight scenes
Jackie Chan in this movie use Drunken Master which include 8 Goddess technique to fight, that's why you can see he changes from one to another. This was one of the best fight in his career, it's amazing to just watch it. :D
Regarding your question on how he maintained his balance at 4:00, it seems it’s a combination of him using his rear leg to counterbalance and his co-star kicking his arm to help him recover.
Because if you try it at home yourself, it’s possible to an extent to lean that far forward without assistance.
what i like about his movie is he always start like from the bottom (weaponless, handicapped, surrounded by more than 1 enemy, etc) before beating his opponent. and that makes me feel so good when he finally beats his opponent up. especially the one in police story movie.
Watching the fights back to back made me realize how indeed the first fight was foreshadowing all these moves, at the very end he does everything he did to the 4 guys in the other fight versus this same dude. :)
There's a really, really good mini-doc on Jackie Chan by Every Frame a Painting. It talks a lot about his filming technique and why fights in his Hong Kong films feel so different compared to his American/Hollywood films. Highly recommend.
My fave boss fight from Jackie Chan. You get those final stage vibes hard af in this one!
At 9:29 for anyone who didn't understand what the villain read off the fan, it said "A boat can float in water, but also sink in it."
I really enjoy how fun and positive your reactions while also breaking down actual techniques.
The kickboxing in this scene is second to none. Spent decades trying to find a scene that does better as far as kicking styles go.
The "sit down cross legged and bounce back up" was actually a very low crippled horse stance... It's a very strong foundation. Almost second to the horse and bow stances.
The level of physicality in this fight scene is absolutely amazing.
Jackie is the GOAT. No one makes fight scenes like him. His drunken style in the forbidden kingdom is amazing too and he's so old in that. Incredible longevity on top on everything else
This will always, to ME, be the GREATEST fight scene in a movie!
Please watch and react to "Fist of Legend" Chen Zhen (Jet Li) vs Funakoshi (Yasuaki Kurata). Watch it completely with the conversation part in the beginning and the end, it's one of best martial arts lesson.
Congrats to the 100. ! And a truly worthy one you picked here!
definitely one of my favorite cinema fights ever.
Greatest hand to hand fight ever put to film. Period.
I love the thumbs up he gives when Jackie falls into the coals.
This is simply the best fight scene in any movie ever.
3:50 he use the force from his opponents attacks to counter his weight. The punch stoped his fall. The kick stood him up.
The bit where Jackie rubs his nose in the other guy's eye rings even funnier for audiences in China, where he's long been remarked upon for having a comically large nose.
I always referred to the guy fighting Chan as 'Kick Man' after I first saw this.
From what I understand Jacky Chan actually trained and learned Drunken fist. And is one of Few masters at it.
The people who think Jackie used wire on his fight are just pure inexperience. All the moves required hours and hours of practice and dedication, that's why he is Jackie Chan. Just to flipped a fan, took him months to get one shot right and same with this final fight scene. Jackie said it took him 3 months alone.
The beauty of Jackie's actions is the continuity of the momentum, block-->counter-->punch-->counter-->block, where Bruce's punching first, hard and fast, Jackie's is more of a constant flow for the fighting and the dramatic sense.
Gotta love the guy. 🤜 👍
Nobody does it like him
4:06 - his balance is amazing, and his left foot was shifting. He was probably hopping while shifting without the left foot lifting off the ground. I doubt it was wire work.
Ken Lo is Jackie’s best one-on-one fight in any of his movies in my opinion. It was the first fight scene I ever saw that had me showing it to other people.
It took them 3-4 months to film this fight.
And the hot coals he landed on...they were real.
I adore all kinds of martial arts. I love you. I am from Iraq. Thank you very much for this video
I always found it odd that for the Mortal Kombat movie, they didnt just hire Ho Sun Pak to reprise his role in the video game as Liu Kang to the big screen. AFAIK, out of all the motion actors for that game, he was the only one that was actually a real actor. Not that MK movie's Robin Shou wasnt good or anything, but it still just struck me as odd. It def woulda been a huge thing for fans back then seeing the actual video game Liu Kang appear in the movie.
Easily one of the best fight scenes of ALL TIME
Do a reaction on " Bangkok knockout" fight scenes
I love Jackie Chan and everything he is in. So awesome and wholesome person as one could be. Watching this made me want to watch all these good old movies again.
I have watched this movie over 100 times. I absolutely love it.
@10:00: If this is a "drunk best friend hug", remind me never to go out drinking with you, lol! 😅😂🤣
It should be known, this was marketed in the states as legend of drunken master when its actually the second drunken master with Jackie Chan.
You are correct about Jackie doing the hot coals slide twice because he didn’t feel it had the right rhythm the first time he did it. That’s why you can see Ken Lo give him the thumbs up during the scene signaling that the take looked good. 💪🏾🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🔥🔥🔥👍🏿
Nobody realizes that his drunken state is basically his Super Saiyan form which is what made it so appealing that his ability to take punishments and produce more violent blows are significantly heightened compared to his normal state.
Dude this was amazing! Certainly the best fight scene ever
I love how you have all these terms for almost every move. I don't know if they're the correct term, but they are clear and spot on and I know exactly which move you're talking about. Well Done!!👍👍👍
I just love the comedy of walking away mid fight from a flurry of kicks just to throw a temper tantrum
I love that when he picked him up, you said "EAGLE!!"
I'm loving the small dust clouds coming up after some of the kicks.
I had watch this one before but it feel different when I was watching your reaction while you point out some of the move. It feel good.
Hahaha, "Maybe some wires" When the guy throws himself off the platform sans wires. XD
Greatest fight scene in world cinema history!!
Jackie's fight against the Crow in 'Shanghai Noon' was brilliant. Definitely an underrated fight scene.
genuinely one of my favorite movies, and the reason i know how to ask "1 more please" in spanish lol
It's always a hard question for me to answer, but Legend of the Drunken Master might be my favorite Jackie Chan film. Every version, every language of the film is different in small ways, but they are all amazing.
This is hands-down one of my favorite movies of Jackie Chan.
This movie is a piece of art, definitely one of my favorites from Jackie Chan