1957 VS 1967 Vintage Telecaster Comparison - Ask Zac 88 - Leo Fender VS CBS Fender
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Fender has made the Telecaster for longer than many of us have been alive. The elegant, yet simple instrument has evolved and had many variations over the past 70 years. Today, I take a 1957 and 1967 Telecaster and show how the instrument changed from the heart of the Leo years, to firmly in the CBS era. From headstock to pickups, the comparison is quite enlightening, and I finish the video with head-to-head tone examples. To finish the video, I give a quick lesson on the playing examples I used for both instruments.
Gear for this video
1957 Fender Esquire with added vintage neck pickup. Restoration and aging on the body by Dan "Danocaster" Strain. Rewind of bridge pickup by Ron Ellis.
1967 Telecaster - stock except for steel compensated saddles, and the tone control is wired to the bridge pickup only.
Strings:
D'Addario NYXL 10,12,16,24,34,44
Pick:
Danocaster Medium
Amp:
1965 Deluxe Reverb with Celestion Vintage 30 speaker, and bright cap clipped on the vibrato channel.
Effects used:
amp verb #askzac #guitartech #telecaster - Hudba
Man, you have no idea how many times I keep coming back to even older videos. This is great! Thank you so much for sharing information with us.
Glad you like them!
the 57 has that hollow magic sound few guitars are blessed with
“Reggie” vibes on the neck pickup! I’ve got to say, in the last year and a half, I’ve learned more about the music and the instruments I love than I ever have before. Thank you for using your time for such a great cause Zac.
Love that!
They both sound amazing but that ‘67 is what a tele sounds like in my head. Just brilliant.
That 57 Esquire neck pick is sweet….lucky man
I would have to say I like the sound on the 67, would be blessed to own either. Thanks Zac for the free lesson. Great playing and great sounds on both.
My pleasure!
That 67 sounds extremely focused and punchy. Definitely the one I'd choose.
I'd normally expect to prefer the more aggressive sound of the '57, but there's such an amazing harmonic sweetness to the '67 that it won me over. Both are absolutely phenomenal!
Thanks for sharing your Telecasters with us. Look forward to getting my Tele fix every Tuesday. Your videos show why we love Telecasters so much. I have other guitars but my Teles get played 98% of my playing time.
Rock on!
One of your best videos! Great content. Loved the licks at the end too! I learned so much. I didn’t even know the black Fender logo was so it would show up on TV better-makes so much sense!
Great comparison. As a Telecaster addict it's been a nice experience seeing this. Thank you
My pleasure!
Both are great! The '57 Tele has a thicker sound and a more historic feeling. The '67 Tele has a rather light sound and is perfect for country rock. My '71 Telecaster tends to sound the same as the '67 one.Thank you!
Really enjoying your solo work. Thanks Zac.
Great sounding guitars. Thank you for a side-by-side of two guitars most of us will never be able to own . . . and a cool lick lesson to boot!
I love your videos. Thanks for this comparison. This is something I will definitely share with people who may not know the big changes that were made. You always make me want a Tele even though I have not bonded with one yet haha.
Please do!
this is great to hear the difference and similar elements to them over the years...I had a '56 for a bit but never got to compare it to later Fenders(I went to humbuckers and Les Pauls)
loved the v neck and those early pick ups...very different from axe to axe. I play Mexi Teles these days and love them(96 & 99)plus my other main player is a '60's Guild Starfire whichis another story.Thanks for exploring all this and cool licks...
Really enjoyed this episode - thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Love that Joe Maphis, Jimmy Bryant, Hank Garland picking. You rock.
Another fabulous video by the top "Tele-Educator"......ZAC!!! Blessings to you Zac and thank you for educating us on the great Fender Telecaster. Oh, and I get a lot of positive responses when I wear your Fender amp schematic T-Shirt, which by the way is one of my favorites! ......Russell D.
Thanks for the help in keeping it going!!!
Great comparo, Zac. I must admit I was prepared to favor the '57 hands-down, but, surprisingly both are absolutely brilliant! Must have one of each!
Right on!
Both guitars sound great.
This is awesome and proves one thing: Each guitar has its personality and very own tone! Such an interesting video once again Sir :)
Great little demo,love this kind of thing.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
They both sound great! They have that tele sound that I hear when running fairly clean and moving on licks from string to string. 18:09 I have no way to describe it, but I know when I hear it. I would love to record with either one.
man ive binge watched so many videos the last week or so. Hyped me up for getting a tele, I appreciate that
Man, the fact that you even changed the neck pickup on the 57 just to give us a more accurate listen to the fifties spec is super impressive! Thank you Zac for your awesome videos.
They both look and sound amazing, I'm sure I'd be happy to play either :-)
Great lesson at the end too!
Thanks!
Great episode!
I learned about the lates 60’s thicker headstock when I picked up a recent Brent Mason neck pull-off. A guy bought a Fender BM and decided he did not like the neck. I certainly do but had to track down a set of Sperzel tuners to put back on it.
I stopped at 18:50 to say this. I prefer the 50's guitar over the 60's model because I like the dry crispy sound with somewhat clearer trebles.
The 60's guitar isn't bad at all. It has a somewhat thicker sound. I like them both, but for me the 50'd model is definitely the winner.
Hi Zac, Love the show and this one in particular. I have a much modded 66 or possibly early 67 Telecaster. Has the gold transition headstock logo, Kluson tuners, Fender Pat No bridgeplate and serial no 201810 on the neck plate. As far as I can tell, the pups are original altho a humbucker was added in the middle position in the late 60s and a 5 way switch in the 80s. It seems to have a mix of pre and post CBS parts which I guess reflects the Fender tradition of using everything you had in manufacturing. Keep up the good work! Nick
I like the yellow color with a black pick guard but I like the 57 small head with Klusons! The tone of both is beautiful! Saw a 52 Nocaster that I wanted!
I know you're not much of a middle position user so thank you for featuring it here! Probably not usable in a full band but that '57 on its own...heavenly.
I’m amazed that CBS left the Tele headstock size alone when they meddled with the Strat headstock.
Those Teles sound insanely beautiful.
Some 70s teles customs had the big 70s style strat headstock.
@@malcolmhardwick4258 The Deluxe with dual humbuckers and some Thinlines?
@@KRAZEEIZATION Exactly they look super cool but glad the standard tels kept the orignal size !
u have such incredible knowledge... i appreciate it.
Yes. I’d keep them both… good show! Enjoyed your picking! Thanks!
Good choice!
Playing my tele while watching the new ask zak videos is the best.
Great video…of course, I have to give the nod to the ‘57……and I’m with you on the 5751….I have one in my amp…..sweetens it up
Thanks for doing this comparison, IMO you have to either own a guitar or have someone lend them to you for an extended period of time to really find out what they can do. I will probably be in the minority but I prefer the 67 with the more compressed highs and lows ( I also prefer that neck carve) . I always enjoy your lessons.
Congratulations Zac!! love that “new” 1957❤️
Really like your playing style Zac!
Fantastic stuff Zac, keep them coming...!
Thanks, will do!
Those instruments are absolutely awesome. Super cool Cowboy Snap shirt also .That's my uniform when I step out! As always great video,
Beautiful guitars Zac!!!! Congrats. I have a 71 and love it
Very cool!
How timely. I'm heading to Norm's Rare Guitars next month. On a quest for the dream Tele and amp. Thank you for your reply on the Deluxe Reverb vid. We should be jamming in no time. 😁👍
You nailed the comparison!
Also, I've got to say that I loved this video heaps. I bought my '67 Maple Cap because of your first video on those. Hearing the qualities of a '57 right against a '67 makes me double-down on my decision. I'm glad I bought mine when I did; the prices have tripled since then. (Got mine for a cool $3200).
You did great, and I agree, maple caps hold their own.
@@AskZac Cheers, and thanks. Telecasters are the only Fenders I've ever bonded with. I can't abide by Strats. I'm primarily a Firebird player, but I switch between my '86 MIJ Rosewood and '67 Maple Cap regularly.
@@johnkelley7543 I would very much appreciate your thoughts on the MIJ rosewood tele. How does it hold up? Thanks!
@@FabianSalomonsson I love my '86. This only makes sense to Tele players, but it has an extremely Telecaster voicing, but with an added warmth and depth to it. The pickups they had at the time were quite nice. If you're diligent, you can get them for a good price. I've also seen one or two in the JV series, which would mean Rosewood and nitro rather than the heavy poly.
Another great one Zac! Thanks for sharing! I'm Ky Small-town surfing for that perfect affordable tele.
My 1967 Telecaster Custom was (even in those days), devalued because of it being refinished, in a pink-based sunburst! Having bought it in 1980, I switched the pickups to Seymour Duncan 1/4 Pounders! That I have still kept, and installed in my 1991 MIM Telecaster! In that time, the strings were top-loaded, so I had mine drilled though. So I guess it IS moded!
I read somewhere that a few guitar tech's agree, that the larger, thicker headstocks, with a beefy neck give you more sustain. That's why I like a nice heavy neck. Cheers!
Good tip!
Yes, that’s a good bar argument. My guitar guy also agrees that the larger head stock on Strats and the thicker Fender
head stocks in general give a bit more sustain, also a somewhat rounder tone. He’s been doing his luthier/repair thing
for about 50 years, so he’s seen, heard, and played thousands of instruments.. I tend to agree but every guitar is different.
I believe any instrument is the sum of it’s parts - that they all interact to create the sound. I don’t know much, but I’ve
been playing 60 years so that’s how this old guitar slinger hears and sees it!
immeasurable
@@larrypower8659 Exactly! I have a home made t-style guitar. No matter how much I wanted to have a fat neck, I had to admit to myself that I wasn't totally comfortable with it. I shaved the neck down a bit. It became easier to play. As a pleasant surprise, it also became more alive, more resonant and articulate, less bassy and dull. It's not just that I play differently. These particular pieces of wood seem to interact better this way.
I'm glad to know my perceptions line up pretty closely to yours the 57 is like an older thinner knife with a keener edge.The 68 is somehow rounded off with a margin less definition and I hear the "whole" guitar with all its parts more in the older model
Another great video Zac. Man you should do a full on old school type instructional video like we grew up on. I know I’d buy it.
Ooh, that ‘57 sounds sweet! Not sure if it’s the guitar, the amp mod or, maybe, just your immaculate playing! Whatever, another great video Zac. Thanks for digging into all these fascinating little corners.
Wow, thanks!
Fascinating, thanks!
I loved the lessons at the end.
Great video! Love the sound of the 57!!
Putting a 5751 in your first preamp tube, as well as making your Phase Inverter tube a bit more resilient by using a 12at7 or 12au7, will lower the overall preamp gain and allow you to wind up the amp quite a bit more without saturating the tubes. This results in an overall cleaner, higher headroom tone. This also results in the amp being a bit quieter due to the decreased gain. I recently reverted my Princeton style amp back to all 12ax7 and I'm enjoying the added harmonics that the preamp gain provides, but man is it noticeably louder!
Hi Matt….what speaker are you using in you Princeton Reverb right now I have a 10” Eminence Red Fang speaker in mine but I have a 12” Alnico Blue speakers that I’m pretty sure I’m putting it in and also my Victoria Chicagolux with a 12” Eminence I’m changing to a blue too
@@bastardsonofretkillr so actually I use a Morgan PR12 which is a super beefed-up Princeton, bordering on Deluxe territory with a 12" speaker. I was using the stock Greenback for a long time which sounds great, but I'm currently using an Alnico Blue which sounds amazing/sparkly but is also super efficient and loud!
Those are two super sweet Teles. I personally prefer the '67. Has a nice compressed honk that I love.
I've been an advocate of vintage guitars for many years, I'm 63 , but as of resontly the last 4 or 5 years I've been buying cheap stuff at flea markets and have not been disappointed . Mostly over seas fender stuff , but some of them are better than the original American ones that I've had in the past .
Just found this channel . I so dig it
Welcome aboard!
67' a little more treble and sweeter on the higher end, also a little more responsive to steel guitar bends, because of the slight higher end. The 57 is a bit more boxy and woody sounding... more mid-range. There is this acoustic like sound to the 57. Love both for different reasons.
Telemeister for sure! Your channel is like going to Tele Church! Thanks for sharing your babies with us Zac! Love em both!
I am on the parts quest.. Thanks for the video!
Good luck!
Great stuff Zac. Please explain in more detail, pulling the tube for Channel 1 and substituting tube/location; for the other part of the modification/ Channel 2. Not sure I caught it; and don’t want to damage my vintage ‘65. Yours sounds great.
You remove the first preamp tube. Then you put a 5751 in the second position. This makes the normal chan not work, but adds voltage to the 5751, and makes for a hot yet sweet tone.
@@AskZac Thank you for the information. I didn't even know that could be done.
Would love to hear you speak on the Tele Custom sometime. I have a MIJ '62 reissue with sunburst finish bought new in 1988. I've been told it has a chambered body.
Both sound beautiful. Your general guitar tone in these videos is so nice and organic. Nicer than most guitar channels. What are we actually listening in your videos, is it just a room mic ?
room mic. I don't like close mics
@@AskZac Could you be specific about your mic'ing in a future Ask Zac ?
Thank you for the video. Looks like the 1957 has a smaler body size or is the pickguard larger?
Same size bodies. It is the 3 ply guard on the 67 that makes it look bigger
It‘s the perspective effect on wide angle camera lenses, and the distortion near the frame and corners. What‘s closer, looks bigger. Watch 5:05 , the '67 looks now smaller…
Dang ! Thanks for posting this. I liked both but, tend to lean towards the 57. Keepon Strummin!
It was another video you mentioned it in, but the Burton tele really is the bomb Zac….in its OWN way. So versatile and sounds reliably great on most pu settings. Also has my favorite neck. No it’s not strictly a purebred telecaster (and I have a couple wonderful tele’s) but it’s great in its own way. James B knew what he was doing. That said. there’s nothing as addicting as a pure tele.
Thanks, very informative and interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great offering!!! You should have worn a tux, but Hell, awesome job!!! THANKS!!!
Interesting comparison. I had a 66 Tele that had good lows and highs--all original. My distant cousin had a 73 Black on black Tele which played on the road out of Nashville in the 70's & 80's.
It seemed good but not great.
For me the hidden gem was the info regarding the amp and pulling V1 and replacing V2 with a 5751. I love 5751's myself! Tell me more about removing V1 and making that channel dead. How does this add to the tone of the 2nd Channel? This is fascinating!
On a Deluxe Reverb, removing V1 adds juice to V2. In V2 put a 5751 in. Its a great sound, and I don't use the normal chan.
Is that green back 60watt?
@@harleylewis5974 Vintage 30 is 60 watts
@@AskZac lol sorry I’ve had greenback stuck on my mind all day. I’ve been fooling with my Vox swapping out tubes and googling speakers.
57 has the goods....love the amp mod as well, great tone.
Great show and great comparison of two stunning guitars. Is it just me, or does the 57 body look smaller physically?
The 67 is bigger for sure
My '67 tele has a transition logo and klusen tuners. With the screw saddles and the F neck plate.
Early to mid 67 features.
Loved it! I think I like the 67 better overall.
Fair enough!
I bought my 67 new for $280 and the $80 case was free. It has rosewood fretboard and a factory bigsby. I loved Luther Perkins sound on those old Johnny Cash songs. Twang on, brother!
Dang it. I've officially been watching farrrrrrrrrr too much of your channel, Zac. I really want a Tele, now. 🤣 Luckily, I can get into Teles relatively cheaply thanks to all of the great budget-friendly guitars out there.
One I've been eyeballing is a blonde/light yellow one that's sold by the company that makes the gold top in my avatar, Monoprice(Indio Guitars). They also make that top notch entry level 'Stage Right' 15w tube combo w/ 1x12" Celestion 75/Eighty that everybody loves, which I also have 😁.
l have a 70’s vintera Telecaster which is a limited edition that has a maple 7.25 radius fretboard and is in buttercream so it’s a good copy of what you’re showing us here. The best thing about it in my opinion is that Fender has installed custom shop twisted tele pickups in the neck and bridge. It’s a killer sounding tele indeed!
Thanks for the comparison, Zac. Although your Esquire to Tele mod looks and sounds great, with the wiring changes, imo, there's no way to know for sure if the sound is true to a 57 Tele. Also, if you can do a follow up video with the Deluxe Reverb cranked up to 7 or so, it would be greatly appreciated. I'd love to hear the tone(s) of the guitars through a driven amp and I know how sweet the DR sounds when it's opened up. Thanks again for sharing your time and knowledge. Your guitars are beautiful!
The pots and caps are from 1957.
@@AskZac Excellent!
Keep the tele vids comin. I love them and all the tele nerd stuff.
Ditto here...........dunno why people hate Tele's.............ever since I started playing a guitar, Tele's have always been my 'dream guitar' back then......I now have two........and may build a third !
@@tomk1tl39 I can't tell you why some people dislike them but, I can tell you why I disliked them for so long. First time I became interested in guitars I opened up a Musician's Friend catalog and when I saw the Teles and Strats, I couldn't imagine why anyone would pick something so ugly over such a sexy looking Strat. I thought the Tele was the fugliest guitar ever designed. Then, I got older and slowly fell in love with the funny lookin' chick. I recently got a 70th Anniversary Broadcaster and I love it so much I almost done want to play it out of fear of scratching it.
@@newgunguy4176 LMFAO........that is a great story......I thought that Tele's were 'sexy' from the start.....and still think they are. Sure glad that you got one and love it also ;=)
67 the year I was born...both guitars sound great.
I've always wondered if 50's tele bodies were narrower than later years, they seem to have less girth between upper and lower bouts. Also less wood edge visible around the pickguard at the bottom horn.
The bodies are the exact same size
i had a 67, bought it new from Ace music in Santa Monica, played it thru a Gibson Vanguard tube amp w/ a 15" single Jensen spkr. Used to take acid and play all night, the bums on Temple st. where i rented a store front would cluster in the doorway and i'd find them sleeping there in the morning.
Thanx Zac ...and great playing (!) BTW...
In your opinion, is the "knob" at the end of the headstock a wee bit smaller,
width wise, on the '57 or izzit just an optical delusion?
(How's that for OCD Tele nerding?) thanx again Zac
the headstock shaping is different between the 2 guitars -- I think Danocaster Tele headstocks are closer to 57 headstock
He mentioned that, and why, at the beginning of the vid @ 2:40. To me, it looks like the 57 body is smaller, particularly the upper and lower bouts seem to be thinner..less "meat on the bone". May be an illusion due to the different size of pickguards...the 57 pickguard completely covers the lower bout body whereas you can see body wood of the 67 beyond the edges of the pickguard in that area.
Brilliant!
Hi Zac, as always awesome video. I just picked a 68 Maple Cap Tele and of course it did not have the original pickups. The current pickups on it are not doing it for me (especially the neck, it sounds dull). Can you suggest a set of aftermarket pickups which will get close to yours in terms of tone? Thank you!
A standard plus neck, and 60T bridge from Ron Ellis would be great.
@@AskZac Thank you! I am also dealing with tuner issues. The F-stamped tuners on it are so tough to turn. I actually removed them, opened, cleaned them well to remove the 50 years of gunk, then used silicone grease. It improved some. I noticed that when the tuners were removed, the ferrules fell right off. I ordered a new set (it appears that the holes are just over 9 mm. They are definitely not 10 mm and I don't see a sign of them being drilled out) but cannot find something that fits snuggly. When tuning to pitch, the strings pull on the shaft causeing the ferrules to lean out of their holes. My temporary fix was to wrap the ferrules in teflon tape. That helped some, but the E and A strings are still extremely difficult to turn...
How about the lower horn, where your hand rests while playing up high? Heard the 57' has a little bump there, as opposed to later models having a clean swoop up to the neck pocket. Also the flat wood area on the jack on later models. Does the 57' have that?
The "Fullerton bump"
@@kungpuk5186 are you kidding or serious? Did they actually call it that?
Yes it's well known.
@@kungpuk5186 interesting. Thanks man!
Great info!
Glad it was helpful!
formidable ¡ merci
"Brash!" I was trying to think of the right word, esp. b/c I'm a retired journalist. Brash it is...in a really nice way!!
Both guitars are sweet, but the '57 is definitely in a class all its own. Has that classic Tele twang we all love, and sustain all day long.
Good One Zac Would Like To See Eugene Moles On Your Program
I finally got a Tele. Mint condition 2004 American Vintage ’52. I hated to do it, but the frets had to go. The lacquer survived fairly well, but there’s always a few chips and some removal from dressing the ends.
It’s really the first Tele that I like. The bridge pickup is amazing and sounds more like a P90 than the typical later twang machine. I like the 7.25” radius with a bit higher action. It actually intonates perfectly with 9-46 strings!
I’ve used 5751 tubes in V1/V2 in everything for a few decades now. I’m willing to pay $100+ for a medical grade(red tip) triple mica black plate RCA. Those suckers last 10,000+ hours!
Oh, and I’m after an American Vintage “62 Custom Telecaster. There’s a few really cool ones on Reverb right now. BTW, this is 100% your fault!! Thanks for sharing your great guitars and amps.
It's a sickness!
maple caps always sound great.
Cool video
Good channel.
Thanks!
Had a '57 Tele, I bought used off a guy in NYC, in the early '70s, for $125. Sold it ( :-P ) years later(1990s?), in Winston Salem, N.C. for $800, when I was strapped for cash. Probably could have gotten a lot more in a major music market. Who knew how the prices would escalate ! Wish I still had it. It would be nice to see your Danocaster finished Esquire, in comparison to an original '57, to see how close they got the color. I always called that just Blonde, but would the current Fender color be White Blonde, Vintage Blonde, or what ?
The refin is like most 57's I have seen, though some have gone very yellow. Most are still white blonde from 57
Too tough a call between the two. Better keep them both for sure. I love my 1983 top loader, sadly I've had to replace the pups with Bill Lawrence and the electronics, bridge saddles because of my caustic sweat. Still loving it in it's second incarnation though. It's a heavy bugger like a LP with that Ash body.