Over 60 years old...DOMINATES Full Contact Stick Fight!
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- The Dog Brothers are legendary in the full contact weapons sparring world! Philip Gelinas, aka Sled Dog, proves that his heart is timeless in this inspirational fight against a much younger and respectful fighter!
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"2. Chase them down with same efficient strikes"
Mom: ahhh... My most favorite move
When applied at the proper time, eh?
I love how the master is almost not moving at all but the opponent is doing these fancy footwork patterns only to get crushed.
Its experience between them old comes witj wisdom youngone a long way to come.
master? 🤣😂
I'm 70 and never did a day of excercise. Picked up a sword in a dojo one day and something exploded inside. Now I'm hooked!
Power to you!
Always wanted to learn Filipino Kali. It looks fun and you get to beat each other with sticks.
PTK is NOT "indigenous pure Filipino art" as GM gaje claims.... GT Gaje said his pekiti tirsia started 1897 BUT if you ask Eskrimadors and historians from Negros Island like James U. Sy Jr and Rene Tongson amd Samuel A. Ibe, Gm Jerson tortal jr (his nephew, by the way GM jerson tortal Sr is GM gaje’s uncle), Celestino Macachor of Cebu, and ex-pupil Daniel Foronda (on FB you can contact them to verify), pekiti is a mix of Tortal family arnis, Lapulapu vinas arnis, Momoy canetes spada y daga and Indonesian silat by Eddie jaffri. Due to marketing and exoticiization to promote pure Kali to foreigners GT gaje marketed it as such...when in fact all Arnis styles like Pekiti Tirsia Arnis (yes the former name) have Spanish roots
There is definitely a Spanish connection to FMA evidenced in the Spanish loanwords like contradas, abecedario, baston, daga etc. That is why do NOT believe in Jay Bataclan, Mick Alcaraz, GT Gaje's claims that ptk is "indigenous pure Kali without Spanish influence" which is Not true. the guys i mentioned spread fake news on PTV 4, CNN Philippines and Abs CBN La Luna Sangre, Not everybody is uto-uto (gullible) ; Many on The Filipino Martial Arts Forum on FB knows the PTK myths perpetuated by Gaje, Bataclan, etc. Even the Urduja Kali princess portrayed by JULIA SAUBIER promoted by
Academy of Survival arts is a MYTH debunked by PH Historian Ambeth Ocampo of Ateneo de Manila University.
it is necessary to Expose the truth like what Daniel Foronda did mumbakki.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/filipino-martial-arts-two-most-common-questions/ - so well meaning people who will study FMA are NOT manipulated/deceived by marketing and exotization...By the way you can contact GM Dionisio Canete on FB, he trained with GT Gaje also, so the Doce Pares sinawalis carried over to PTK, just watch their videos...
Also this Lapu lapu vinas arnis Handblade was borrowed into PTK czcams.com/video/d8YGh5W8AyU/video.html compared to czcams.com/video/YdAzk9B6rR8/video.html
@@phph1701 omg shut up
@@phph1701. Arnis. De. Mano
Is. Martial. Art. Composed of. Various. Arts from. South East. Asian. It's. Was. Created. By. Several south east. Asian master. Long. Ago. Before. Europe. Knows. How. To. Use. Salt. For. Cooking..
And. I. Don't. See any. Arts. In. That. Sparring. But. Child. Playing. Stick.. goodness
My. Father. Atnis. Style.. was. Called. The. Arts. Of. The. Unlearned.
@@phph1701 this PH guys is everywhere on a mission trying to change things LOL. Saw your other posts hating on a bunch of masters. You need a life LOL
Hey "kali" is not to beat the oponent by a stick... Kali is to kill someone as fast as you can... That is kalis all about... Kali is the mastery of hand to hand combat plus any weapon around you to able to survive in every situation... Dagger , stick and sword are the primary weapons...
People says its like two kids whacking each other with sticks.
Me imaging it if those sticks were machetes or swords.. seconds is all it takes to die in that situation....
Yeah we call it death match in Cebu but sadly in 1944 philippines government prohibited the death match they use blade weapon or rattan sticks
@@Random_JapGuy wtf do u mean "sadly" lmao
@@Random_JapGuy sadly???
@@Random_JapGuy yawa rag sadly HAHAHAHA
It is like that too... but there's nothing bad about it!
Another thing Iearned was you do not have to be physically fit or in good shape to win a stick fight. Whereas in other martial arts styles with 60 year olds they have to still be in relatively good shape to win or do well in sparring.
The fights become more even as you include better weaponry. That is why there is the quote
"God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal"
With a gun, a child can defeat the best warrior.
I mean they have weapons to overcome the diasadvantages of their body, but being relatively fit is always a plus when trining martial arts.
@@princessprincess7440 I agree. Which is why I made the comment.
People seem to think that stick fighting is easy. It is not. Not only do you have to learn to hit properly (and not to loose your weapon in the mean time) and how to mitigate to problems associated with that side that hurts more.
It's always an advantage if you're already athletic.
During the slow motion parts, it sounds like you have Chewbacca there.
"You can be the bat or the ball."
I'm 55, looking forward to continue going toe-to-toe in 5 years.
Master Gelinas is one of the most complete martial artist in the world and was able to master Jeet kune do (under Guru Inosanto) Kajukenbo, Muay thai and Kali through studying under great masters. I give the other dude my respect to even try to spar with Master Gelinas.
This reminds me of my childhood, my mom use to hit me like this with anything she can hold on too
Asian moms and Filipino moms are scary AF
One the old Dog Brothers, in his days he was fast, powerful, and explosive. I first seen him sparring back in 96 at a Pekiti Tersia 5 day training camp held by- Tuhon Bill McGrath at, Fishkill, NY. Much respect and love to the warrior ! 😔👊🏼🙏🏼
He was stabbing the fuck out of him with that stick 😂
I think Kali is originally used with bolo(machete)
0:20 That's how I stick fight my little brother after he steals the TV remote
I learn..and mastered how to avoid..those fierceful stick.in my childhood days..everytime my mother got angry!
OG Dog Brother. What do you expect?
welp this is what martial arts looks like without those fancy moves and you gotta accept it
the sled dog kicks ass.
damnn, the use of thrustts, u just don't see it that much, even in competitions, his techniques are just practical for blade usage.
The 60 year old is my mom after finding out I didn’t defrost the chicken
great sparring. i’m gonna try some of these techniques in my sparring sessions! pugay kuya gelinas! peace! ~johnny
PTK is NOT "indigenous pure Filipino art" as GM gaje claims.... GT Gaje said his pekiti tirsia started 1897 BUT if you ask Eskrimadors and historians from Negros Island like James U. Sy Jr and Rene Tongson amd Samuel A. Ibe, Gm Jerson tortal jr (his nephew, by the way GM jerson tortal Sr is GM gaje’s uncle), Celestino Macachor of Cebu, and ex-pupil Daniel Foronda (on FB you can contact them to verify), pekiti is a mix of Tortal family arnis, Lapulapu vinas arnis, Momoy canetes spada y daga and Indonesian silat by Eddie jaffri. Due to marketing and exoticiization to promote pure Kali to foreigners GT gaje marketed it as such...when in fact all Arnis styles like Pekiti Tirsia Arnis (yes the former name) have Spanish roots
There is definitely a Spanish connection to FMA evidenced in the Spanish loanwords like contradas, abecedario, baston, daga etc. That is why do NOT believe in Jay Bataclan, Mick Alcaraz, GT Gaje's claims that ptk is "indigenous pure Kali without Spanish influence" which is Not true. the guys i mentioned spread fake news on PTV 4, CNN Philippines and Abs CBN La Luna Sangre, Not everybody is uto-uto (gullible) ; Many on The Filipino Martial Arts Forum on FB knows the PTK myths perpetuated by Gaje, Bataclan, etc. Even the Urduja Kali princess portrayed by JULIA SAUBIER promoted by
Academy of Survival arts is a MYTH debunked by PH Historian Ambeth Ocampo of Ateneo de Manila University.
it is necessary to Expose the truth like what Daniel Foronda did mumbakki.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/filipino-martial-arts-two-most-common-questions/ - so well meaning people who will study FMA are NOT manipulated/deceived by marketing and exotization...By the way you can contact GM Dionisio Canete on FB, he trained with GT Gaje also, so the Doce Pares sinawalis carried over to PTK, just watch their videos...
Also this Lapu lapu vinas arnis Handblade was borrowed into PTK czcams.com/video/d8YGh5W8AyU/video.html compared to czcams.com/video/YdAzk9B6rR8/video.html
Legend to train under, if only for a short time
Phil was awesome in the Philippines with PTK
Brilliant!
yo this track tho
I think dude was going easy on the old guy, like he was serious. Granted the old guy did have some nice technics
Tuhon Gelinas!
Great stuff! Now this does point out that the fancy drills are a waste of time though!
No. Its not a waste of time to practice better physical abilities. It’s only a problem if you don’t know how, when and where to use it. But yes, over focusing on it, can be a huge waste of time. The good thing about getting older and less athletic, is that everything you do counts even more, and have to have the best effect. Older people usuallyhave the advantage of knowledge and experience. Young people usually have more of a physical advantage. In stick fighting it’s possible the peak years are even later than let’s say boxing. But that’s also because boxing destroys your brain early, if you’re not a great defensive boxer like Mayweather. Stick fighters usually never fight without a lot of protective gears, and are not knocking each other out.
@@TundrahSounds let's agree to disagree. I love Kali, I just believe, from training in it, there's better things to focus on.
Respect!
Ben kenobi vs darth maul live action adaptation
I am laughing so hard because i imagine myself being hit with that stick
Imagine him in his Prime
i loke how the master fights like a real arnis master while the other guy is fighting like a fencer with sticks
Sled Dog!
Damn!
the master got caught off guard and could have been hit clean at :20 , and he got mad and ran after the guy. but no one noticed lol.
It was literaly kali 101 to dive head on if you are fighting another person with a weapon and you are disarmed. Dont let them have that space to swing the weapon. Of course, in real life you would run away but the option is there as a desparate measure.
When the fattest guy is the most dangerous
In any of these sparring situations, the hand drill flows do not come together. They won't. The practical building block of arnis is on the footwork. Here, i see no strategic sense in the younger guy's footwork. Why would you circle towards the weapon's arm? If your angle is cut off, your opponent has the full swing and reach of his weapon. The circling movement should be at angles towards the weaponless arm so your angle cannot be cut without either exposing their weapons arm or delaying their riposte by the fraction of the second you need to step off their range. Even when withdrawing from a rush, you do not do it linearly or you will run out of blocks or in this case the weapon hand is smothered and disarmed. Why are the masters not teaching these basics of footwork and concentrating instead on static drill exchanges? Arnis/Eskrima (never heard of Kali in the Islands until Phil-Ams coined the term in the US.) of the type I saw in the Philippines in the 80s or the Novaliches style I was shown in the early 90s bear anymore resemblance to what I see today.
zero pressure,
But remember sometimes the ball snaps the bat...
I get what he’s saying...
FMA is designed to go against bigger opponents because we Filipinos are mostly small compared to western people. Therefore armed or empty handed, FMA can really be effective. Even deadly at some points.
But the Spaniards conquered you. You even have a Spanish name.
@@dsvet not totally at all cuz coldillera region and Mindanao not totally been conquer by those white Monkees and Jappy Gookz and especially the Spanish Devils
0:20 funny
That guy was acting like it was the first time he picked up a stick and didn't know what to do with it.
Wag kang sasayaw pag lalaban ka ng arnis
das ist so grottenschlecht
Would be nice if you could actually fight
XD
Lol “Tuhon” Phil. He hurts because he’s out of shape and overweight. Poor mobility and diet too. Prioritize your body and it’ll do cool shit when you’re old still
Yan lang ang kaya niong ipakitang galawan?
Nasan ang art of combat?
Eh ordinaryong hampasan lang ang ginawa nio kahit batang walang Alam kaya gawin yan eh
Damn that guy don't know any arnis technique, I guess its really true, Big muscle with no guts and brain, such phrase fits to this bloke.
This is a joke, Glad you didn't add Kali, Balintawak or Eskrima in the title, otherwise it would be disrespectful.
LMAO these moves are not like trained moves
What moves are you talking about? The moves in Martial Arts Movies? Snap back to reality, girl. Real life is different than movies.
Well if it's hits and works I'd used the same moves more than once lol,
you don't have to study from a master just learn how swipe a stick that's it
But in my opinion it's better to have someone that has more knowledge than you. I don't wanna re invent the wheel you know.
@@Arcana437 but in this video i saw a fighter who just have learn how to swipe the stick with out skill in marshal arts
Well, the masters in my dojo would swipe the shit out of you. They do it with me as well
Hahah try that with them. Lets see if you can win.
@@madhatter3971 they are just fairy tale to a real fighter like me, i can beat them with my bare hands using MMA style, once you caught them they,'re done. Read about xu xiadong
I've lost interest in Balintawak I was fooled by sparring video, I think now it's fake it doesn't work in real fight.
hahaha
Another troll 😂
Learn fencing and kendo. There are no fancy drills or moves.
Balintawak was created from real street fights in Balintawak street of Cebu PH. Maybe you are afraid of close quarter combat like that blue guy. Balintawak is for CQC whether with weapon or without..
It's not. You're supposed to defeat the system taught to you. That's the philosophy. Make it work. Not the other way around.