How Much Fun Is A Mazda RX-8 On Track?
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- This week, Alex takes Felix and a Mazda MX-5 to the track to find out if the Dorito machine has what it takes to be a fun track car!
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Am i the only one who absolutely loves the body style of the rx8? Every since i seen it in nfs most wanted when i was 7 i just fell in love.
SAME HERE! my dream car since I was young. I've never had the courage to buy one tho due to the unreliable engine
I've had my s1 since 08. Am now hunting for s2 r3.
Me and my brother at a young age always argued over which was better me: Rx8 him: 350z until I found out how reliable the engine is.
Dude you're not alone. I love the rx8 as well. I used it and beat nfs mostwanted with that car. It's the car that got me loyal to the mazda brand
me too，and I don’t even know car brands when I was playing the game
He protecc
He attacc
But most importantly
He beat mx5 on tracc
He breacc*
You should get your RX-8's headlights polished, it'll help it go from looking old to pretty again
Lollikips I think he wants it to look like of shitty
Detail episode coming soon I think, just like they did for Miles the Skoda
Polishing the headlights can also reduce aerodynamic drag. You can gain up to 10 HP that way. 😉
you can easily do it yourself
You need to UV protect them after polishing though or they'll go hazy again in just a few months.
The M3 did it in 37.73 and the RX8 in 37.3. The handling in this car is epic
Why do we not see more of Phill on the channel??
I miss Phill so much
Check out alex ig (autoalex) phill is so gorgeous now
@@hopla7942 glad he still have it
Garage queen now?
RIP Phill ☹️
The RX 8 is my favorite cheap sports car. They handle like a dream. I have an 05 and I could never get rid of her. There truly is nothing like a well tuned rotary engine.
When are we going to see Phil again?!?!?!?
check out his instagram
Phil is staying away from the salty british roads for now, once cleared expect a huge comeback !
Rotary swap Miata?
Check out Mad Mike's 4 rotor ND MX5. If I remember correctly it sports 1200HP.
Kinda like an RX-8? I'm pretty sure the NB and RX-8 were built with all the same mechanixal bits except the engine and tranission drop gear. They didn't need room for the convertible top to drop into so they could add back seats.
never. keep the v6
Eamonn Noonan you are kidding
@@andersjjensen Its a 20b now. A throw back to his og setup makes like 400hp and revs to the moon
The RX8 is just 1.3 sec slower than the m3 and 330d they raced on that track, and that was not all out lap of Alex. The RX8 is a fast dorito.
Actually 37.3 is .4 better than the 37.71 of the m3
I'd love to see them do a head to head, same weather conditions. I think that RX-8 has quite a bit more left with sticky tyres and a good dry track surface.
M3 and 330d had been driven on different track configuration.
The M3 is a significantly faster car, I've had both.
The RX-8 is slightly lighter than those Bimmers, also I think with rotary Mazdas, these really are built to be top notch - the handling should fully support its power and vice versa. If a car is quicker then it is about a lot of many other factors - take revving for instance - I think that RX8 revs faster than the Bimmers, add to that its amazing handling and what do you get? You get faster corner speed.
I love Mazdas, but I am unsure when it comes to rotary reliability whether I would then prefer the 330d, the M3 or go with the Mazda... wait, I know: if I had the money to get that M3 then I would rather buy a E46 M3 and... a Miata, done, coolsies :)
Getting my Rx-8 in 2 days, these videos just increase my hype.
Just remember to stay on top of your oil change maintenance, use Pre-mix, and rev to 9000 under load at least once a day. This will help the apex seals last a long time and keep down carbon build up. Oh yeah, don't use oil lighter than 10W-30 as lighter oil doesn't protect the bearings enough. Mazda USA recommends the light oil, but Mazda Japan and all the specialty Rotary Tuning shops recommend 10W-30 or higher.
@@DatDarkOne Yea, been doing my research for ages to prepare for the car. Great part about it, is that it has a rebuilt engine in it that has only 5k miles on it. Past owner is an Rx-8 enthusiast so he kept it in great shape.
@@nickc6095 Mine still has the original engine and I just hit 144k miles. Had my ECU tuned recently by Rotary Performance in Garland, TX. If you have the chance to get your ECU tuned, I highly recommend having it done. RP only charges about $150 for it. It tweaks various other settings also like temp for the Oil Coolers opening etc.
Make sure to have a backup plan for when you break down.
@@keldondrave6180 it's a mazda, not a bmw
YES ALEX AMAZE DRIVING :D (let's do a tyre episode.... ;))
Everyone should be subscribing to Tyre reviews, channel should be over 100k subscriptions easy.
@@evansisgreat you're too kind. We're growing slowly, and have some mega plans for this year, not just in tyres! Other aspects of cars will be tested too :)
Amaze driving? Typo? 😂
@@evansisgreat yeah they just need to upload more before they fall off because they do really well eveytime they upload they are one of my favourite channels to watch.
Would love watching more vids of your or a car throttle tire review I need a new set of summers for my 350z!
I'm austrian and i've owned an Rx-8 for about 10 years now. You should try it on a snowy mountain pass, to see how well it goes sideways! It digs up the hill with spinning wheels and you don't really have to fight it, you just steer it with the gas pedal, if you want to change from left to right, you don't even really have to steer, you just lift the throttle to shift the weight,... i love mine so much, i could write for hours.
A stock S2000 would be an ideal rival on that track to felix. Almost the same power, also close to a 50/50 weight balance and high revving.
It's almost 100 kgs lighter than rx-8.
@@oktayozs true but a stock s2k has slightly more power.
@@ichigozanghetsu So, more power and less weight. The winner is obvious. As an rx-8 owner I can say that.
in terms of performance, slight edge to the s2k. in terms of pricing, massive edge to the rx8. in terms of reliability, HUMONGOUS edge towards the s2k. i like it. i'd also love to see the question answered after how much time an s2k becomes cheaper overall than an rx8
Its way more expensive. Or well, where I live there 9k+
can we please take a moment and apreciate that this car just went 0.4 seconds faster around that track than the e90 m3? holy shit !
AND it will get a lot faster as Alex gets more confident in it too....
As an MX5 Owner, I'm going to wait to watch this until tonight, on the big screen, with popcorn and a Cold-One!! Can't wait!!!!
After you finish cutting hair?
@@NatanaelAlexandru LOL, how did I not see that coming? That was RICH!!
@@toshibavoodoo And yet again we realize that there are two kinds of people: Those who think the MX5 is a Hairdresser Porche and those who have driven one.
Before I bought my second car I was between a MX-5 and E36, guess who's not using their blinkers
The beauty of high revving engines like the rotary is that engine torque does not matter. Engine torque only matters as a component of power when talking about performance; it's something to consider when talking about transmission design or efficiency. It's wheel torque that matters, and if you've got a high revving engine you can just use shorter gears.
Well it highly depends on application. Horsepower is a function of torque, you can’t make horsepower without torque but you need to be able to rev to go fast. Take for example a diesel (I’m talking stock) they make massive torque figures but because they’re very slow to rev they don’t really do speed. On the flip side, having a strong torque curve gives you more horsepower at a broader RPM range. Meaning your average (not peak) horsepower will be higher.
Finally someone that understands that revs alone OR torque alone are meaningless figures. It all boils down to the gearing used.
And for power you need both torque and revs. And it's always a tradeoff situation.. the higher the revs, the lower torque you're gonna have, because it means it's a engine with lower stroke, thus rotating faster, but having less radius on the crankshaft, thus producing less torque (a force applied at a distance)
and they often need to idle higher, doe to the lower torque as well. I see it more as a percentage of the rev range used, and on that level, it is the same as a lower reving eng
How fun is an RX-8 in track?
5 seconds into the video: "So much fun!!!"
...behind the wheel of the MX-5
Great video! Even in 2019, the rx8's handling is still comparable to modern days cars. Not to mention when you use it in the category that it was actually build for, you'll be damn proud of it, as it will perform like the top of the class. Track day season coming soon :D
teach us how to do a peripheral port :)
Until the apex seals blow up again because rx8 problems
No it's not lol
@@sacatolasmoreira5593 yes it is
😋😋😋
when will you do next 2 guys 1 car again? loving Rx8 series!!!
Have only found your channel today and have loved the RX8 series, I picked up my first RX8 about six months ago not really knowing much about them other than the Rotary engine and that a friend had one back in the day. Have learnt show much about the car watching your channel and like felix it needs so TLC. 402 miles on a tank is amazing, mine is somewhat shy of that! Thanks again and give up the good work!!
Ok ok ok!! I've subscribed!!
It's to much good stuff to miss..
Very well done and put together.
Yes. My boring day is gonna get good now that you guys have uploaded.
@@qzillavr3014 It did unfortunately.
Amazing! Good driving Alex! I love this series
i love that the donuts were just filmed with a dude running after the car with a camera in hand XD. you can tell by looking at the reflections on the cars door
YES DAY HAS BEEN MADE!!!!!
Really enjoying this series, these are seriously underrated cars. Makes me want to buy another one, although the issues at the beginning should have really put me off!
Had one for yrs.. love every minute driving it.
Always felt safe and capable.
Did not realize I could have a good time watchin someone else race around the track. Your enthusiasm gave me 'asms mate.
Light weight is really the key , the RX8 is almost faster than any of your other built cars that went around this track ..
Please do more funny videos like "Rusty Nuts" or "BMW school"
That is the '2 guys 1 car' series.
Great series! I don't like Mazda or rotarys but this series is great, and the performance of that RX8 is impressive!
Loving this series!!
I still maintain that the RX-8 is by far one of the best driving cars in the world. When we tested my tuned daily driver example on The Slip Angle EP 10, I was amazed by it's on track performance. What a beautifully balanced chassis. A true dancing partner. Jaw's drop when I say the RX-8 drive's better than my FD RX-7, but regardless it's the hands down truth.
I 100% agree. It was a joy to drive and I still miss mine..... Never driven a better more fun car since....
"When it works, it works awesomely" rx8 quotes😂
Best series of youtube!
Great job, and don't I know how much fun these are on track!!
We want the comparison between rx8 and GT86!
@AYE OK SURE Great comment!)
Free… 2… 1…
I laughed much more than I should have :D
Im a massive rx8 fan. Love this series.
Glad to See your FINALLY understanding what the rx8 is all about.. Exactly this..
Not lugging along in 4th gear at 1000 rpm and thinking you can blaze the tyre's off it
Wait. The rx-8 is faster then the civic type-r then?
and faster than the M3.
rx8 is probably the best Track car for the price its set at, Very underrated car
Matthias Annaberger yea and that i call bullshit on lol.
Is it that surprising
Being RWD and 50/50 weight distribution will help a lot in these conditions. A rwd car will generally always be faster off the line than FWD.
When a Mazda Rx-8 hit a time of 37,3 and a E92 M3 beat it only by 0,2 of a second :)
This episode is really fun
Alex I really enjoy you! Your humor is great.
Unpopular opinion: I prefer the RX8
Yes. That is indeed a very unpopular opinion, and the bottom line is that you are wrong and you should feel bad :P
My opinion is also unpopular
I prefer the RX-8 too. I’ve had two of them.
I had my rx8 for 8yrs, just traded it for a mx5 nc. I like both cars a lot.
Miatas are much more reliable thougj
I love the practicality of the RX-8 with the hidden back doors. I knew someone with one when they first came out and it was a fun car, but had a bunch of issues. Some were small, such as needing a new battery, but eventually they got a BMW instead (and had different issues).
LEGO airship Ha! The little Renesis is the heart of the 8 and the best thing about the car.
Have had one for 12 years, that's literally the only problem I've ever had with it. Nobody has been able to figure out the battery draining.
the best part was "oh crap, CUT..!!" very good episode!!! also thanks for the street ported / bridge ported one
The reason why I love car throttle, is because they keep everything straight forward unlike other CZcamsrs streach just a small engine repair to 4 or 5 videos
Love the RX8.. Keep pushing for Mazda content. Want to know another Mazda that has been long forgotten? The Mazdaspeed 6. I drive one myself and recently talked about it! Check me out.
C.J. David great car bro
I wish Mazda brings back Mazdaspeed
Mazda speed 6 was a sleeper from the factory. Plus mazdaspeed 3 MPS was a hot hatch that would still put the golf gti to shame.
Mx-3 cost abit more but they are long and forgotten
BASITH PH Thanks brotha! Sadly Mazda doesn’t need to bring it back... They will more than likely lose money lol.
My brother has a speed 6, never driven one but nice as a passenger
6:38 lmao the beep isn’t the engine being happy, it’s the engine saying “dear god shift already”
Your driving gets better with each video!
Racing an RX8 Friday and Saturday and after watching this can’t wait!
That's a cliffhanger ending lol
Alex for top gear? Please it would be great.
Why would one wish to put a BBC leash on a rare unstereotyped wildlife petrolheads?
Original trio shown the finger to Top Gear, and i think we should do the same. A man make the show, never show makes a man. So at this point, i'm satisfied with it, being called Car Throttle.
The fun level...
is *over 9000!*
Great video as always and perfect timing! I can't wait to get out at Castle Combe for the RX8 track day! As you have seen the velocity red are so much quicker lol
The answer is *fun*
Aside from Miata and an e36 bmw. Any other cars worth looking into if one is looking for a rwd track car build? Most common cars have a bigger aftermarket but it gets boring having what everyone has. Side note: I’m not in Europe so most cars they enjoy there I cannot get my hands on.
Tomekkplk same
Yeah, few years ago everyone jumped on the Miata, e36/46, 240sx, 350z and that died down since 2012 but nothing different is around now. I had a 320awhp 370awtq wrx but it got boring and lost its fun.
Tomekkplk I’m going to get a Mercedes 500e (hopefully supercharge it!)
@@Tomekkplk Get an older 2WD Toyota truck (Hilux for overseas). They're very different, and they're pretty fun stock. I've got a 4WD one and those things are fun to hoon about.
AWESOME MY FRIEND, AWESOME!
Ooooo... Love your vids. Keep up the great work.
Turbo it and make it a true rx7 successor.
renesis hates turbos tho
@@koichi6154 but its possible so who cares if the engine doesn't like it lol
Renesis Engines absolutely hate turbos due to the High compression and porting, Id suggest him to Put an Rx7 13b REW and big turbo it
when you dont know how a rotary works "turbo it bro"
@@vistalacorsa5343 yea for 30k + no one will do that unless that fucking love rx8s and rx8s only
All this video has done is confirm my belief that I need an NA in my life.
I LOVE THE VIDS KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
Ending is just epic!!!!
Next project : do a turbo kit on a used car
RX-8 for days. But with my money I’d get an M135i.
Would love to see an E82 120D get some love from Car Throttle
@@SofaKingWhatA why?
And mx rolls away !!! :D love that ending
Great content Alex!
U'r gonna have to ribuild the engine after this 😂
I was going to say the very same!
@@DonPablo2011 im gonna live longer 😂😂
Rotaries are great track cars, the entire chassis and the engine actually favor these high rev scenarios. New engine will last plenty of time. Did you see where it beat the Lexus?
@@Sprier plenty of time means 30k?😂😂 Come on man i like ethans videos and it was a joke. ☺️
@@kleisgjata5644 Plenty of rotaries with proper maintenance and knowledge going well over 100k realistically. Rob Dahms old 3 rotor lasted 8 years at around 800 wheel. I understand the joke but you can make the same about plenty of piston motors blowing holes in the block.
Should have been Phil Vs . Felix 🙂
@Bludy Fox When Phil's V6 was dyno'd, it put out about 220bhp iirc. A lot of MX5 owners will tune their engines, to get that sort of power.
I wouldn't call that cheating as such, I'd say that it's a more interesting comparison.
Bludy Fox the video is about “fun factor”, the lap time is secondary 🙂
Great video.
Another awesome episode.
I have to say the Rx8 is one of the easiest rwd cars i've driven on track, they're so forgiving and the grip is unbelievable.
Stick a set of track tyres on it and they're pretty much unbeatable on a tight twisty track.
You can have fun in rx8 until the oil burns but with the mx5 you can have for days!
premix
And really doesnt use that much 1/2 quart of oil per three tanks of fuel
You can refill oil like you refill fuel, there's nothing stopping you from driving for days in one..
Ive had petrol BMWs that burned more oil than the RX8, you clearly never owned one, people say the same things, gets boring.
I’m sorry but
M-MIATA
I-IS
A-ALWAYS
T-THE
A-ANSWER
smiley boi is best boi
nguyen
Except when MR2T is the answer
Hell yeah
Miata is always the answer... when you cant afford an FD RX7 with a built engine.
If you can fit in it unlike me lol
Had a 55 plate RX8 for 7 months now and got to say its the most fun I've ever had in the front seat of a car!
One of the funniest endings to car throttle’s videos ever hahaha
But where is the red mx-5?
E- bit his name is Phil
james Long oh ok
Damn now you need a celica gt four.
Ye
Pascal Kirchmayer
For real. My ST-205 and my SW20T would fucking destroy these cars.
False.
*insert Celica GT-FOUR drifting around the hairpin*
hi dere
This has always been my favorite but it’s extreme overkill in this conversation.
czcams.com/video/XHX8BG_J_Tg/video.html
Mazda community is just so chill, we’re not comparing speed or hp, we’re comparing how fun to drive the cars are
Finaly u guys post a new video :)
He's always looking down to the shift stick when he's shifting... I mean, it's not movin somewhere else.... As a German, this offends me :D
Nice driving, but needs more EUROBEAT!!!! 😎 🚗💨
You can't go wrong with either car when it comes to fun!
OMG- I LOVE my RX-8, and, obviously- so do you! I will admit that although I know how it handles, I didn't think it would do so much better than the MX-5 (Miata), especially with worn out mods. Even bigger surprise- it spanked the lil Lexus- WoW! So glad that the engine rebuild balanced out in the end, just because I LOVE mine... I wasn't sure that you'd love your POS after the checking account drain!
Far more fun than expected, better balanced than expected, and, FAR more 'hoonable' than expected. Good times, Alex!
How much fun is repairing a RX-8 on the race track? (This is a joke btw)
Way more fun than driving a diesel. 🙂
Typical comment from someone who would have folks believe it’s a miracle it runs at all. Have owned mine for 14+ years and still waiting for my first engine problem. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned.
@@Saboda53 You know it's a joke. Right?
@AYE OK SURE I don't have a car.
@AYE OK SURE What about rotary diesels?
I love rx-7 FD than a rx-8 give a like if you do😍😍💓💓
Looks like fun! I race with champ car and the Miata mx-5 is a popular choice, but that RX-8 did well too!
Fun fact : the mx5 c - (mark 3 ) is the rx8 chassis which has had most components slightly lightened. They didn't want to develop 2 chassis. Its why the mark 3 was bigger than the 1 and 2. Watch the savagegeese mx5 c video for more.
Love the ending 😂
I own an RX8 PZ for the past 2 years. Never had an issue and I always do short journeys in the city. Compression is still high and I change the oil (semi-synthetic 10w40) once a year. If you look after the engine, it is fine.
A lot of fun 😊👊
Enjoyed that Alex.....Confirmed what I already knew that both Mazdas make great track cars, like lots of comments on here I'd like to see 'Phil' tear it up around there too!
Thats one fast Dorito!
I like the flames coming out the exaust felix
We love !
This ending haha, nice one!
Having driven a 1.8 mk1 round curborough a number of times, on Hsd dt coilovers and some nice tyre/wheel combos, I can confirm that they’re damn awesome round there!! That RX8 is why I found the vid though, toying up the idea of getting one for fun and this cemented it on my potential list for sure
And this is why I love my 8. It's fast where I like it fast. It's hard to beat diving into corners with 30mph warning signs at 70-80mphs and not squeaking a tire. All you need is a nice set of tires. Nitto NT05 in my case, but any comparable tire take the car another level higher in the corners.
felix is just awesome its a dream
I have recetly bought an mx5 na 1.6. My friend who is in a mechanic twicharged it for me, scraped the intake changed the intake manifold put on a skunk coilover kit and installed a short theow shifter. Most fun ive had with a car yet. I just hope the engine wont blow up.