Can Israel Make Peace with Hamas? Cenk Uygur vs. Mosab Hassan Yousef

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • After the October 7th attack, Israel vowed to eradicate Hamas and began its counteroperation in Gaza. Now, after nine months of war, a hostage crisis, and an increasing death toll, Israel and Hamas have been in negotiation talks, which could be complicated by the death of Hamas’s political leader Ismail Haniyeh. Should Israel agree to a permanent ceasefire? Those who think Israel should make peace with Hamas argue that while Hamas’s actions are indefensible, a de-escalation of violence is necessary, and conditions in Gaza need to be improved to prevent starvation and further loss of life. Those who believe Israel should not back down say that Hamas’s desire to kill Israelis will never change regardless of any deal created. They also point out that past ceasefires have been used by Hamas to rearm and regroup, which could happen again and lead to more conflicts.
    As the war goes on, we debate the question: Can Israel Make Peace with Hamas?
    Arguing Yes: Cenk Uygur, Founder and Host of ‪@TheYoungTurks‬ Network
    Arguing No: Mosab Hassan Yousef, Ex-Palestinian Militant, Former Israeli Spy, Son of Hamas Co-Founder, and Author
    Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates
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    Timestamps:
    (2:02) Cenk Uygur argues that Israel can make peace with Hamas.
    (6:09) Mosab Hassan Yousef argues that Israel cannot make peace with Hamas.
    (12:48) Does Hamas have ideological aspirations that cannot be satisfied by any negotiations?
    (17:25) Mosab Hassan Yousef argues that Palestine has never existed as a country or an ethnic group.
    (23:38) Why does Israel have to negotiate with its enemy instead of destroying it?
    (26:25) Can Hamas be destroyed?
    (29:37) Did Palestinians sacrifice their children for ideology and political gains?
    (34:31) Will a new Hamas leader impact the likelihood of a ceasefire?
    (40:06) Nicole Narea asks whether the possibility of attack from Hezbollah and Iran will make Israel more likely to agree to a ceasefire with Hamas.
    (49:54) Einat Wilf asks why Hamas would engage in negotiations with Israel, given that their fundamental ideology opposes the existence of a sovereign state for the Jewish people.
    (57:33) Cenk Uygur and Mosab Hassan Yousef present their closing statements.
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  • @OpentoDebate
    @OpentoDebate  Před měsícem +4

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  • @jonathan3488
    @jonathan3488 Před měsícem +283

    Next debate: Can yazidis make peace with ISIS?

  • @ryan0883926
    @ryan0883926 Před měsícem +961

    The fact that Cenk said that “it depends on the situation” when asked if reporting a planned suicide bombing to authorities makes you a traitor is disgusting.

    • @ahappyyotubeuser9851
      @ahappyyotubeuser9851 Před měsícem +93

      It's same answer the president of MIT give on a question "if calling to kill Jews on campus is genocidal or not"
      She answered " it depends on the context".
      So, yea maybe it's ok for her and him. by the way where is the ICC and ICJ on that? silent? like in the 30's nations were silent?

    • @uchemojekwu4794
      @uchemojekwu4794 Před měsícem

      😂​@@ahappyyotubeuser9851

    • @Klote3241
      @Klote3241 Před měsícem

      @@ahappyyotubeuser9851 Are you just selectively blind or what? the ICJ and ICC have ordered arrest warrants on Hamas leaders for those reasons.

    • @jamesanthonyrajah5082
      @jamesanthonyrajah5082 Před měsícem

      You can’t debate Cenk…the man resorts to hyperbole and is incapable of forming a nuanced view. He doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together. I hate his style of “argument”. When I look at him I see a primate.

    • @chikeokjr24
      @chikeokjr24 Před měsícem

      You’d be a traitor to your dad but not to ur nation. Grow tf up and see the broader point

  • @vickyd2866
    @vickyd2866 Před měsícem +64

    Dear Mister Mosab, i admire your strength, your moral compass and your courage and compassion! Respect from a German-Greek.

  • @geoswk
    @geoswk Před měsícem +135

    Cenk Uygur speaking nonsense.

  • @dudaelements9301
    @dudaelements9301 Před měsícem +40

    I was reading the comments hoping that people are standing with Mosab. Oh, such a relief. Thank you Mosab and all the people here that are not brainwashed by trrsts ideology. Thank you for this debate. Hope more people will watch this and be more educated after. Thank you for spreading the truth.

  • @cmarais-ks3kd
    @cmarais-ks3kd Před měsícem +115

    Calling Haniyha been "a moderate" is laughable. He said in an interview :"the kidnapped Israelis are not our hostages but our guests." Quite dispicable I would say.

    • @franklyspeaking986
      @franklyspeaking986 Před měsícem +8

      Absolutely despicable. Kidnapped and assaulted hostages are 'guests'????

    • @kathleenschubert1247
      @kathleenschubert1247 Před měsícem +2

      Also it is a ridiculous argument. Although he might was the moderate (just consider it for a monent)- since when a moderate is able to influence a hardliner? Espescialle one who has no problem with violence- he would have been dead anyways.

    • @Thenoobestgirl
      @Thenoobestgirl Před měsícem +7

      😂😂😂😂😂
      If this is how they host people the how do they treat their "prisoners"?

    • @MikeHowardElectrivire
      @MikeHowardElectrivire Před 29 dny

      Did you not listen to the full sentence? He was saying moderate relative to the group.

    • @HarryBolsak
      @HarryBolsak Před 29 dny +6

      ​@@MikeHowardElectrivire lol. If thats moderate relative to the group then the group shouldnt exist

  • @evanb4189
    @evanb4189 Před měsícem +675

    The Hamas constitution answers this in the first sentence: "Israel will only exist until Islam destroys it".

    • @jacovawernett3077
      @jacovawernett3077 Před měsícem +26

      Baruch Hashem Evan, my Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem decades ago. I just look young. Cenk is having trouble with his soul and brain..❤😂

    • @sachinbk1347
      @sachinbk1347 Před měsícem +36

      Thank you for pointing this out and also so called innocent Palestinians have voted overwhelmingly in favour of Hamas.

    • @jacovawernett3077
      @jacovawernett3077 Před měsícem

      @sachinbk1347 Yes, they hate Jews, Jesus people, Buddhists and life. They chant genocide the Jews, we love death more than life. They spit on God for Muhammad

    • @hmmmahroof3602
      @hmmmahroof3602 Před měsícem +19

      Even before hamas all seculer guerilla movements and seculer Arab leaders maintained the enmity against Israel.

    • @TheKillarStyle
      @TheKillarStyle Před měsícem +1

      @@sachinbk1347 did they have a nother coice?? you gave hamas the weopens make them strong and then you suprist by that they have votet for hamas ther was no other coice so pls stop this cap.

  • @markbisson6166
    @markbisson6166 Před měsícem +163

    That stare that Mosab gives Cenk after asking about his children is terrifying.

    • @PetratenCaat-gj4bt
      @PetratenCaat-gj4bt Před měsícem

      @@markbisson6166 and yet cenk is the evil one of those two

    • @michellecollins6379
      @michellecollins6379 Před měsícem +10

      I love it and he had it coming would have loved to hear the answer.

    • @markbisson6166
      @markbisson6166 Před měsícem +2

      @@michellecollins6379 yeah. I can’t imagine how scary it would be to have him look at me like that lol

    • @Yehuda-Shor
      @Yehuda-Shor Před měsícem +37

      As soon as you hear Cenk call Ismail Haniyeh: moderate, when it comes to a man who has a video of himself celebrating the horrific massacre of the seventh of October,
      And videos in which he talks excitedly about his ambition to sacrifice all the children in order to destroy Israel, you understand how dangerous and wrong his ideas are.

    • @liha4300
      @liha4300 Před měsícem +2

      That's when doom music kicks in...

  • @activistmalpractice
    @activistmalpractice Před měsícem +40

    I rarely like the term "destroyed" when it comes to a debate, but Yousef tore Uygur limb from limb.

  • @user-mb2hz7ww4t
    @user-mb2hz7ww4t Před měsícem +46

    Mosab Hassan is 100% right,GOD bless u❤

  • @Laura-ss5ws
    @Laura-ss5ws Před měsícem +311

    Cenk....why doesn't Hamas allow the children to shelter in the tunnels? Huge tunnels???

    • @rodgerhempfing2921
      @rodgerhempfing2921 Před měsícem +26

      Exactly.

    • @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci
      @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci Před měsícem

      This is what makes Hamas even worse than the Nazis. The Nazis, evil as they were, still took steps to protect German civilians. They had evacuation procedures, and bomb shelters. They didn’t deliberately seek to maximize civilian casualties, like Hamas does, or call civilians who died “martyrs”. They didn’t use and exploit civilian deaths in the disgusting way Hamas does.

    • @Yehuda-Shor
      @Yehuda-Shor Před měsícem +4

      As soon as you hear Cenk call Ismail Haniyeh: moderate, when it comes to a man who has a video of himself celebrating the horrific massacre of the seventh of October,
      And videos in which he talks excitedly about his ambition to sacrifice all the children in order to destroy Israel, you understand how dangerous and wrong his ideas are.

    • @dustinbaker8272
      @dustinbaker8272 Před měsícem

      @@Yehuda-Shor he explains that moderate relative to the rest of Hamas in the sense he is open to a deal. I'm sure those points were missed .

    • @bapakpiapia9880
      @bapakpiapia9880 Před měsícem +4

      Because the Gazans are UN’s responsibility, Mousa Abu Marzouk said it clearly.

  • @amirkestin8413
    @amirkestin8413 Před měsícem +141

    No ,u cant make peace with terror

    • @abdullahalawadhi3934
      @abdullahalawadhi3934 Před 28 dny

      I agree, those Zionists can’t be trusted

    • @skyhunter996
      @skyhunter996 Před 27 dny +1

      exactly, that's why 1srael will never have peace

    • @WinterLachey-r7c
      @WinterLachey-r7c Před 25 dny +1

      @skyhunter996
      PREACH… someone had to say it and it was very well said!. israel will NEVER EVER have peace because what they have been doing over the course of 76 years has been a self inflicted fatality. They managed to create a temporary eutopia built on the back on on the blood of Palestinian civilians (infants and children).
      This stupid mosab character is a traitor for a reason. He has built a lucrative career by being an israeli plant, propagandist, and mouth piece. So much bulls*it that mosab has stated in the past have all been debunked.
      At this point, all that israel has left are their lies & propaganda. We see you israel, we hear you. The WHOLE World sees you. Your Ugly mask has slipped 🐽. You’re NOT fooling anyone anymore nor will you ever achieve peace through slaughter and Oppression.

    • @alonlevy7528
      @alonlevy7528 Před dnem

      @@skyhunter996 because its enemies are terrorists, and people like you who for some reason censor the word Israel

  • @007kingifrit
    @007kingifrit Před měsícem +316

    no cenk, you make peace with neutral parties. you do not make peace with enemies.you destroy them.

    • @PuffleGlurp
      @PuffleGlurp Před měsícem

      Ah ... so mass slaughter... you sound like Hitler.

    • @Klote3241
      @Klote3241 Před měsícem +6

      You cant make peace with neutral parties. your not at war with them. you make peace with enemies. you can make non aggression pacts with neutral parties.

    • @Squibtorious
      @Squibtorious Před měsícem

      Israel did just that with Morocco, UAE, etc. etc. ​@@Klote3241

    • @thatguy3468
      @thatguy3468 Před měsícem +17

      @@Klote3241I’m sure that theory would have worked with hitler 😂

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem

      So in your dumb logic the UK and North Ireland shouldn't have made peace?

  • @metaljacket8128
    @metaljacket8128 Před měsícem +84

    Cenk embarrassing himself as usual.

  • @tatespeech369
    @tatespeech369 Před měsícem +36

    God bless Mosab Hassan Yousef a soldier of God and truth

  • @SuperJuntax
    @SuperJuntax Před měsícem +131

    this is a debate between a soldier and a news anchor about war. cenk is the news anchor who only see the war through his news report, and the soldier will speak about the war situation he experienced. this debate completely irrelevant.

    • @arlenegojocco7518
      @arlenegojocco7518 Před měsícem +8

      Spot on! 👍

    • @honeyho9890
      @honeyho9890 Před měsícem +6

      Exactly

    • @MH-dz7pq
      @MH-dz7pq Před měsícem

      lol more like a spy/informant and a news anchor

    • @hadror13
      @hadror13 Před měsícem

      Cenk is an eeediot. Plain and simple

    • @sinatra222
      @sinatra222 Před měsícem

      Chunk is not a news anchor, he's a pundit.

  • @lisawise9849
    @lisawise9849 Před měsícem +419

    Mosab speaks truth and facts and he has experienced the Middle East and Genk is a Sinister lying hack and he is pathetic. Mosab is a great man with integrity

    • @nayon9379
      @nayon9379 Před měsícem

      🌴THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the Salvation of the last day that Christ brought the second and last incarnation of His new and holy name"
      (You used to want to rule as kings, and now you have to turn away. Can He lead people down to the eternal abyss? Now, the important thing is that you have to know the spirit of man, and you have to know if what you must enter into; you must talk about entering into life, and how to be truly overcome, and how to obey God completely, how to obey unto death. You may say that you are overcome, but obey In the end, you must have the two aspects of Job's testimony--the testimony of Peter--the ultimate love of God. You must be like Job of his possessions, and was tormented by the sickness of the body, but he did not forsake the name of Jehovah. This is the testimony of Job. When he was crucified and faced his death, he was loved He is still God; he did not think of his own hopes or desire good hopes or luxurious thoughts and he only sought to love God and follow all God's plans: That is the basis you must have before you can be considered a witness, before you can be a man who became perfect after being defeated. God's work today is for our disposition to change and for us to rid ourselves of Satan's influence, to allow us to be born in the land of impurity and thus to rid ourselves of the impurity, to shake off Satan's filth and infection, to turn away this.)
      Almighty God said
      You once aspired to rule as kings, and now you must turn away can He lead men down to the eternal abyss? NOW, the IMPORTANT thing is that you MUST KNOW THE SPIRIT OF MAN, and you MUST KNOW WHAT you must ENTER; you need to talk about ENTERING LIFE, and CHANGING DISPOSITION, HOW TO REALLY CONQUER, and HOW TO COMPLETELY FOLLOW GOD, HOW TO FOLLOW UNTIL DEATH. 🏵️
      You need to focus on these things, and those that are not realistic or important must first be set aside and let go. Now, you must know how to be defeated, and how people act after they are defeated.. ☀️
      You can say you're overpowered, but can you FOLLOW UNTIL death? You MUST FOLLOW UNTIL THE LAST if there is any HOPE, and you SHOULD NOT LOSE FAITH in GOD regardless of the situation. Ultimately, you MUST GET TWO ASPECTS of TESTIMONY: JOB'S TESTIMONY---OBEDIENCE UNTIL DEATH; and PETER'S TESTIMONY---the ULTIMATE LOVE of GOD. You have to be LIKE JOB: He lost all his possessions, and was tormented by physical pain, but he DID NOT FORSAKE JEHOVAH'S NAME. This is the TESTIMONY of JOB. PEDRO was able to LOVE GOD to DEATH.🙏🌹
      When he was CRUCIFIED and FACED his DEATH, he still LOVED GOD; He DOESN'T THINK OF HIS OWN WISHES or DESIRES GOOD HOPE or GREAT ATTITUDE and he ONLY WANTS to LOVE GOD and FOLLOW ALL THE PLANSof GOD: THAT IS THE BASIS YOU NEED TO GET BEFORE YOU CAN BE CONSIDERED WITNESSING, BEFORE YOU BECOME A PERFECT PERSON AFTER CONQUERING.🌷🙏🌹
      Now, if people really know their own Spirit and status, will they still want hopes and hopes? This is what you should know: GOD'S WORK NOW is SO THAT OUR DISPOSITION WILL CHANGE and we CAN REMOVE SATAN'S INFLUENCE FROM OURSELVES, to allow us to be born in the land of impurity and thus remove the impurity from ourselves, to DESTROY THE DIRT and SATAN'S INFLUENCE, to AVOID it. 🙏
      From "The WORD Appears in the Flesh" Holy book Fulfillment of (John 1:1) and (Ezekiel 2:9-10), (Rev. 19:9,13)
      📥 Christ's fulfillment of His establishment of the kingdom that was brought down from heaven that carved the holy, and totality and disposition of His name "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐. The prophecy He fulfilled "And I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and even the power of death will not prevail against it." (Mat. 16:18). ... And the Epistle to the church of Philadelphia "I will make him who overcomes a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will never be removed from it. I will engrave on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God , the NEW JERUSALEM that will come down from heaven. I will also engrave on him my NEW NAME. ... And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this : From now on, blessed are those who serve the Lord until death!" "Truly," said the Spirit. "They will rest from their labor; for their works will follow them." (Rev. 14:13). ... "And I was told the number of those who were sealed--144,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel." They SAY TOGETHER, "SALVATION is from the LAMB, and to our God who is ON THE THRONE!" One of the elders asked me, "Who are the people dressed in white, and where did they come from?" "I don't know," I replied. "You know. ." And he said to me, "They are the ones who prevailed despite severe persecution. They cleansed and made their clothes white in the blood of the Lamb. Because the Lamb in the middle of the throne will be their PASTOR. He will bring them to the fountains of life-giving water; and God will wipe the tears from their eyes." They triumphed over the Devil through the blood of the Lamb and their testimony to the truth; they did not regret their lives. (Rev 7:4,10,13-14,17 ).... They sing a new song before the Throne, and the four living creatures, and the twenty-four elders. No one understands that song but the 144,000 redeemed in the world. This men who had no relation to women. They followed the Lamb wherever he went. They were redeemed from all mankind. They never lied them any fault (Rev. 14:3-5).
      All are leading here! It stands in the holy place in the sky /CZcams🔝

    • @motlevi
      @motlevi Před měsícem

      @@irishheritage893 which means he has firsthand comprehension and Cenk knows nothing.

    • @rywt4zc
      @rywt4zc Před měsícem +28

      @@irishheritage893 yes. Isn't it pathetic when people like Cenk try to call him a "traitor"?

    • @oussamarofaik8545
      @oussamarofaik8545 Před měsícem +1

      i can't understand how dumb some of you sound, HE'S A MOSSAD SPY, motivated primarily by his hate of islam. if someone defected from russia to the nato side, and spies for them and is russophobic and a naz1, i sure would call him a traitor, even if i hate russia. but you people are desperate to hear an arab voice critical of ham as that you cling to a disgraced spy. like be for real, the guy wants all his people to die, even non-ham as, and you call him a peace activist from the other side.

    • @DamePiglet
      @DamePiglet Před měsícem +14

      Listening to Cenk is like listening to a 9th grader repeating what his teacher told him.
      Just goes to show that the media has been elevating diversity hires for a long time.

  • @errolalex2608
    @errolalex2608 Před měsícem +310

    Mosab Hassan is 100% right
    He is brilliant in his debates regards Israel and Palestine
    He has facts on his side

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem +6

      He literally says 0 facts and got demolished by Cenk here

    • @kidagave1
      @kidagave1 Před měsícem

      @@sAfgun123what debate were you watching? Cenk just spewing nonsense. His ideas are not executable, and they are based in ideological pipe dreams

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem

      He has 0 facts. Only lies! Without lies zionism dies!

    • @jankaufmann4305
      @jankaufmann4305 Před měsícem +13

      The discussion in this war is absurd. First.
      Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. The same goes for any related conflict: Hezbollah, Houthis, etc…the more peacefully you try to live with them, the more visible their genocidal intents becomes.
      People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem +26

      @@jankaufmann4305 they stole all of paleatinians land and you call it selfless to "leave" gaza while controling its border food water electricity and denying it ability to control its own borders in any capacity or to get their own airport or seaport

  • @geoswk
    @geoswk Před měsícem +145

    Bravo Mosab Hassan Yousef keep speaking the Truth. God blesses you abundantly.

    • @Bill-kw2fx
      @Bill-kw2fx Před měsícem

      This guy is a Jew agent .

    • @sam-te1fu
      @sam-te1fu Před měsícem

      @@Bill-kw2fx And you are a Hamas simp.

    • @levin1374
      @levin1374 Před 29 dny

      @@Bill-kw2fx and the other guy is a hamas agent

    • @nalaminaket-hx6kl
      @nalaminaket-hx6kl Před 29 dny

      Mosab, admired your debate. Senk says Israel was dropping tonnes of bombs. Yet he can't tell us how Idf would be able to destroy those tunnels built underground. Btw, HAMAS used all the aid money to build these tunnels for over the last 36 years just to wipe Israel off the face of the earth instead of building GAZA. In 36 years GAZA would have been well off using those funds. Now tthr ignorant clowns like Senk and those living in Western countries enjoying peace and prosperois life think they can come out with their gaping stinky mouth wide open condemning Israel for going after the HAMAS who took the hostages and hid them in tunnels and crowded areas making it hard for Idf to get them so when innocent people were killed the world quickly condemn Israel without condemning HAMAS for deliberately hiding there and even starting the war and taking those refugees. Some of you Pro-Hamas should take a good look at yourself in the mirror. It is people like you who are promoting those blood thirsty, religiously indoctrinated radical terrorists only happy to kill to gain blessing in their heaven.

    • @xdk_v1214
      @xdk_v1214 Před 21 dnem

      @@Bill-kw2fx Troll

  • @davidroshpina529
    @davidroshpina529 Před měsícem +160

    Putting Mossab debating with Cenk is like putting him debating a wall. A waste of time.

    • @mavsfanforlife3488
      @mavsfanforlife3488 Před měsícem +4

      Not a waste of time. His arguments were idiotic and was on full display. People will watch this video and be exposed to the truth.

    • @amitaysussholz6544
      @amitaysussholz6544 Před měsícem +3

      It's more like letting an MMA fighter wrestle a snake.
      He may be slippery, but you know that the snake will be crushed.

    • @steve7236
      @steve7236 Před měsícem

      ​@@amitaysussholz6544if the snake is a water snake. Put a python in there and suddenly the MMA fighter is now dinner.

    • @nalaminaket-hx6kl
      @nalaminaket-hx6kl Před 29 dny +4

      Senk is a clown 🤡

    • @alonraigorodetsky1803
      @alonraigorodetsky1803 Před 29 dny +1

      My favorite part is when Cenk acknowledged that that Israelis and Palestinians need to be separate to maintain Israel Jewish and also prevent Palestinian violence

  • @cigalleettinger8295
    @cigalleettinger8295 Před měsícem +98

    great job Mosab, thanks for all your work and telling the truth..always enjoy listening to Mosab. hopefully more people around the world will open their eyes to what Israel is fighting for. peace, strength and harmony ❤️🇮🇱🕊

  • @masambeni
    @masambeni Před měsícem +115

    The question is can Hamas make peace with the Jews? The answer is absolutely not. The word compromise does not exist in the Islamist lexicon.

    • @rodgerhempfing2921
      @rodgerhempfing2921 Před měsícem

      But they can lie and pretend to want peace, regroup, rearm and start war again.

    • @Yehuda-Shor
      @Yehuda-Shor Před měsícem +2

      As soon as you hear Cenk call Ismail Haniyeh: moderate, when it comes to a man who has a video of himself celebrating the horrific massacre of the seventh of October,
      And videos in which he talks excitedly about his ambition to sacrifice all the children in order to destroy Israel, you understand how dangerous and wrong his ideas are.

    • @ValenceFlux
      @ValenceFlux Před měsícem +2

      Mosab says they are anarchists without a moral compass and he grew up around it.

  • @kennethjarodlucas1790
    @kennethjarodlucas1790 Před měsícem +220

    It depends on the situation????? Cenk????? Ok I'm done!

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem +2

      Yes it literally does. Cope harder

    • @bolmeteussteeldragon47
      @bolmeteussteeldragon47 Před měsícem +23

      @@autograndeunlimited How tf is sending teenagers on a bombing spree killing themselves "depend on the situation"?

    • @TheKillarStyle
      @TheKillarStyle Před měsícem +3

      @@bolmeteussteeldragon47 why did they do it not because they have fun maybe it has somthink to do with the occupation of this peopel for 70 years??? empety humanity??? OYu have nothink of it that why you supporting this warcrimes always on the wrong site in history.

    • @Danmobile303
      @Danmobile303 Před měsícem

      @@TheKillarStyle lol try harder terrorist.

    • @levin1374
      @levin1374 Před 29 dny

      @@TheKillarStyle Ok how in the world are people living in occupation make tunnels as big as NYC under hospitals, smuggle weapons from Iran and other countries? Also why don't you have any problem when they are being oppressed by Egypt with a wall double the size of Israel and also why don't you think palestinians went into Israel for jobs rather than Israel before Oct 7th?

  • @simondan3828
    @simondan3828 Před měsícem +57

    No country should support establishing an enemy country adjacent to it. ☝

  • @naiva
    @naiva Před měsícem +41

    Just the premise of this whole discussion is plain stupid.
    It would be like a debate after the 911 happened in the US, asking "Can USA make peace with Al Qaeda?"

    • @moosa86
      @moosa86 Před 29 dny

      @naiva
      Sweetheart the USA was funding Al Qaeda…. 🤯

    • @rigelb9025
      @rigelb9025 Před 17 dny

      Precisely.

  • @ImaManCheetah
    @ImaManCheetah Před měsícem +453

    Inviting Cenk was a mistake. The point of this channel is civil and reasonable debate. Cenk is not that.

    • @kevinbrydges2027
      @kevinbrydges2027 Před měsícem +16

      Lmao you’re trolling right? Yeah Cenk definitely gets animated but Yousef flys off the handle in every interview he does when someone remotely disagrees with him or challenges his thinking. As he did in this debate. And He’s incapable of understanding nuance or engaging in a thoughtful good faith discussion.

    • @vangielee1403
      @vangielee1403 Před měsícem +21

      ​@@kevinbrydges2027you're the one who is trolling. Who would not get frustrated when debating on something absurd just the like of cenk.

    • @ImaManCheetah
      @ImaManCheetah Před měsícem +13

      @@kevinbrydges2027 I don't think either of them have debate styles particularly within the spirit of this channel.
      That said, within about 10 seconds of his first words, Cenk had basically killed any hope of a productive conversation with this absurd notion that "if you have an enemy, then it absolutely follows that making peace with them is a productive and feasible option." He parrots this assertion throughout the debate, utterly refusing to acknowledge at any point that there are scenarios when the nature of an enemy is such that foregoing force and negotiating for peace is not a feasible option (which should at least be a starting point for both sides of this issue, regardless of your position). When this lack of any nuance is evident within seconds of his opening his mouth, the conversation is doomed from the start.

    • @TheSayKular
      @TheSayKular Před měsícem +9

      Islamic world want to see people like Cenk, and not a calm person come to defend them.
      Even though Mosab is passionate on the topic, sadly he is not the best debater.
      So this debate did not help.
      To debate this topic you will need hours or minimum make it two hours.
      To counter Cenk they need people like Armin Navabi, who knows the ideology of Hamas.
      The may make it as two people team debate.
      With Hamas you can only PAUSE war, their ideology will make them fight till they eliminate non-Muslims from that region.

    • @user-nf1ft3bh4s
      @user-nf1ft3bh4s Před měsícem +10

      😂CENK IS NOT USING BRAIN😂 CENK IS EMPTY😂

  • @zaralee5604
    @zaralee5604 Před měsícem +470

    I’m 5 minutes in and I can’t even stand the nonsense coming out of Cenks mouth. I can’t continue watching this ✌🏼

    • @THESUPERNATURALMEDIA
      @THESUPERNATURALMEDIA Před měsícem

      he is stupid and make no sense. a liar.

    • @exposedhobo
      @exposedhobo Před měsícem

      Cenks is insane

    • @jacquesrivette2956
      @jacquesrivette2956 Před měsícem +24

      I feel the same way I cannot sit for five minutes, listening to that nonsense fromÇenk

    • @miemie-uh3gv
      @miemie-uh3gv Před měsícem

      Yes, I think Cenk is a stupid and immature guy. Sorry 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem +33

      The truth hurts you so of course thar would he your reaction LOL

  • @DOFFISHAL
    @DOFFISHAL Před měsícem +149

    Genk - You said your father sold you out, but you sold your father out. You're a traitor
    Mossad - Let me ask you a question; If you had information that a suicide bomber is about to kill people indiscriminately, would you report it to the authority?
    Genk - Of course, I would
    Mossad - Will that make you a traitor?
    Genk - Umm ummm
    😂😂

  • @mahendradias1758
    @mahendradias1758 Před měsícem +28

    No ,Israel can never make peace with Hamas

  • @MichelleKavarnos
    @MichelleKavarnos Před měsícem +29

    Cenk is ridiculous. I love that he thinks he knows more than Mosab.

  • @freddan65gbg24
    @freddan65gbg24 Před měsícem +95

    One flaw in Cenk Uygur's reasoning concerning how Egypt that couldn't make peace with Israel in the 1950s and 1960s was that Nasser was the leader of Egypt in that period. But when Anwar Sadat became president of Egypt in the 1970s, although his Egypt attacked Israel in October 1973, Sadat was able to change and become a peacemaker with Israel in 1977-81 until he was assasinated, which proved that the islamists in Egypt represented by the "Muslim Brotherhood". An islamist ideology that Hamas is a part of and President Erdogan of Turkey and his ruling AKP party. Cenk Uygur's home country Turkey committed a "genocide" against 1,5 million Christian Armenians in eastern Turkey during World War 1, especially in 1915.

    • @kovie9162
      @kovie9162 Před měsícem +3

      Nasser wasn't part of the Muslim Brotherhood and his problem with Israel was a matter of Arab and Muslim pride on a nationalist level, not an ideological or religious level. He most certainly could have made peace with Israel under the right circumstances, which was Egypt delivering a shocking blow to Israel's might military in 1973 and thus redeeming its national pride, after which it could make peace with it. There is no comparable situation with Hamas, which isn't about national pride, but religious and nationalist fanaticism akin the Putin's Russia or the Nazis. You don't make peace with such people.

    • @MH-dz7pq
      @MH-dz7pq Před měsícem

      Yea and Ytzak rabin lived a long healthy life huh? Why lie to officiate the other side? Extremists exist everywhere

    • @ORRHART
      @ORRHART Před měsícem +3

      It also helped Israel was willing to give land. So he could say to the Egyptians "we still won. Just not toatl Win." .
      For many in the mid east public, getting land is a clear sign of winning. For Israel holding land is less important. Rather nationhood, self definition, maintaning soverginty. This diffrence is still a mystery for many in middle east.

    • @activistmalpractice
      @activistmalpractice Před měsícem +1

      One of many flaws.

    • @delishme2
      @delishme2 Před měsícem +1

      One flaw ? You are too gracious.

  • @carolbunnell3995
    @carolbunnell3995 Před měsícem +448

    Cenk is so uninformed about the whole middle east situation. He's so uneducated. What a waste of time having him in this debate.

    • @honeyho9890
      @honeyho9890 Před měsícem +22

      Agreed 💯

    • @sylvieford9131
      @sylvieford9131 Před měsícem +19

      Totally 👍 agree

    • @iv911
      @iv911 Před měsícem

      You can’t discuss with Muslims in general. They are not compatible with the West!

    • @larasmith1708
      @larasmith1708 Před měsícem +13

      Agreed

    • @jkomis
      @jkomis Před měsícem

      I do not believe Cenk is uninformed or ignorant; I think he is a hypocrite, a con man, and a demagogue.

  • @lilep666
    @lilep666 Před měsícem +393

    Cenk Uygur is such a chump, i don't think he believes his own B.S

    • @encouragingIegacy
      @encouragingIegacy Před měsícem +28

      Thinking the same. He's just a puppet to his own agenda.

    • @GODSSON810810
      @GODSSON810810 Před měsícem +19

      I actually think he does which is way more scary. Scary that this guy runs his own news channel.

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem

      LMAO no way you said that while beliveing Mossads hasbara bs

    • @jankaufmann4305
      @jankaufmann4305 Před měsícem +22

      The discussion in this war is absurd. First.
      Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. The same goes for any related conflict: Hezbollah, Houthis, etc…the more peacefully you try to live with them, the more visible their genocidal intents becomes.
      People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

    • @GODSSON810810
      @GODSSON810810 Před měsícem +6

      @@jankaufmann4305 To sound minded, morally clear individuals it’s not very difficult. To morally bankrupt individuals it is very complicated. Unfortunately in the world today moral clarity seems to be scarce.

  • @amit_serper
    @amit_serper Před měsícem +13

    Cenk never ceases to amaze me with his confidence in saying utter nonsense. Can you imagine this guy running for president, yikes.

  • @4GIVEN_777
    @4GIVEN_777 Před měsícem +18

    Mosab Hassan Yousef is another level👍

  • @nathanielsweet7614
    @nathanielsweet7614 Před měsícem +159

    Honestly, this is not a productive debate.
    Cenk is just saying: "Do the two parties breath? Then they should negotiate." It's as if the identities of the two parties don't actually matter.

    • @DamjanB52
      @DamjanB52 Před měsícem +1

      @nathanielsweet7614
      Uygur (2:03) : "Can Israel make peace with Hamas ? Of course; that's who you make peace with - your enemies"
      Of course, if you make peace, you make it with your enemies, so having enemies is a necessary condition for making peace, but is it sufficient ?

    • @brettadamek1571
      @brettadamek1571 Před měsícem +7

      @@DamjanB52 It is so obviously not sufficient. The proof is in the pudding.

    • @TheSayKular
      @TheSayKular Před měsícem +4

      Correct, this debate did not help. 🛑🛑🛑
      Mosab is passionate on the topic, sadly he is not the best debater.
      One hour is too less for this topic, we need hours, or minimum two hour.
      To counter Cenk they need people like Armin Navabi, who knows the ideology of Hamas.
      May be have two people team on both side.
      🛑🛑🛑Remember with Hamas you can PAUSE war, but not end war.

    • @urilahat8090
      @urilahat8090 Před měsícem

      What a raging foool he is

    • @ekoller
      @ekoller Před měsícem

      Cenk is the dumbest of all editorialists on this topic. Nothing he says ever reflects reality. After 10/7 he said Israel could just send in the special forces to take out Hamas and get back the hostages but they won’t because they want to kill all the gazans. He really is an idiot. I don’t know why people give him a platform because he either lies or says stupid things. He’s a waste of time to listen to.

  • @THESUPERNATURALMEDIA
    @THESUPERNATURALMEDIA Před měsícem +65

    cenk living in a fantasy. Mosab, Mosab a heartfelt genuine gentleman.

  • @sandytatham3592
    @sandytatham3592 Před měsícem +216

    Mosab is great! He has the experience of growing up in a Muslim family in Ramallah with his father, a co-founder of Hamas, and he's also very consciously aware. Not sure that Cenk has any good points, based on his debating style here.

    • @nadir15
      @nadir15 Před měsícem +2

      So your higher moral ground makes the craziest person in the world a hero? This guy’s internal peace has been stolen by IDF and now we are asking him to find a path of peace for others?

    • @nayon9379
      @nayon9379 Před měsícem

      🌴THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the Salvation of the last day that Christ brought the second and last incarnation of His new and holy name"
      (You used to want to rule as kings, and now you have to turn away. Can He lead people down to the eternal abyss? Now, the important thing is that you have to know the spirit of man, and you have to know if what you must enter into; you must talk about entering into life, and how to be truly overcome, and how to obey God completely, how to obey unto death. You may say that you are overcome, but obey In the end, you must have the two aspects of Job's testimony--the testimony of Peter--the ultimate love of God. You must be like Job of his possessions, and was tormented by the sickness of the body, but he did not forsake the name of Jehovah. This is the testimony of Job. When he was crucified and faced his death, he was loved He is still God; he did not think of his own hopes or desire good hopes or luxurious thoughts and he only sought to love God and follow all God's plans: That is the basis you must have before you can be considered a witness, before you can be a man who became perfect after being defeated. God's work today is for our disposition to change and for us to rid ourselves of Satan's influence, to allow us to be born in the land of impurity and thus to rid ourselves of the impurity, to shake off Satan's filth and infection, to turn away this.)
      Almighty God said
      You once aspired to rule as kings, and now you must turn away can He lead men down to the eternal abyss? NOW, the IMPORTANT thing is that you MUST KNOW THE SPIRIT OF MAN, and you MUST KNOW WHAT you must ENTER; you need to talk about ENTERING LIFE, and CHANGING DISPOSITION, HOW TO REALLY CONQUER, and HOW TO COMPLETELY FOLLOW GOD, HOW TO FOLLOW UNTIL DEATH. 🏵️
      You need to focus on these things, and those that are not realistic or important must first be set aside and let go. Now, you must know how to be defeated, and how people act after they are defeated.. ☀️
      You can say you're overpowered, but can you FOLLOW UNTIL death? You MUST FOLLOW UNTIL THE LAST if there is any HOPE, and you SHOULD NOT LOSE FAITH in GOD regardless of the situation. Ultimately, you MUST GET TWO ASPECTS of TESTIMONY: JOB'S TESTIMONY---OBEDIENCE UNTIL DEATH; and PETER'S TESTIMONY---the ULTIMATE LOVE of GOD. You have to be LIKE JOB: He lost all his possessions, and was tormented by physical pain, but he DID NOT FORSAKE JEHOVAH'S NAME. This is the TESTIMONY of JOB. PEDRO was able to LOVE GOD to DEATH.🙏🌹
      When he was CRUCIFIED and FACED his DEATH, he still LOVED GOD; He DOESN'T THINK OF HIS OWN WISHES or DESIRES GOOD HOPE or GREAT ATTITUDE and he ONLY WANTS to LOVE GOD and FOLLOW ALL THE PLANSof GOD: THAT IS THE BASIS YOU NEED TO GET BEFORE YOU CAN BE CONSIDERED WITNESSING, BEFORE YOU BECOME A PERFECT PERSON AFTER CONQUERING.🌷🙏🌹
      Now, if people really know their own Spirit and status, will they still want hopes and hopes? This is what you should know: GOD'S WORK NOW is SO THAT OUR DISPOSITION WILL CHANGE and we CAN REMOVE SATAN'S INFLUENCE FROM OURSELVES, to allow us to be born in the land of impurity and thus remove the impurity from ourselves, to DESTROY THE DIRT and SATAN'S INFLUENCE, to AVOID it. 🙏
      From "The WORD Appears in the Flesh" Holy book Fulfillment of (John 1:1) and (Ezekiel 2:9-10), (Rev. 19:9,13)
      📥 Christ's fulfillment of His establishment of the kingdom that was brought down from heaven that carved the holy, and totality and disposition of His name "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐. The prophecy He fulfilled "And I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and even the power of death will not prevail against it." (Mat. 16:18). ... And the Epistle to the church of Philadelphia "I will make him who overcomes a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will never be removed from it. I will engrave on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God , the NEW JERUSALEM that will come down from heaven. I will also engrave on him my NEW NAME. ... And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this : From now on, blessed are those who serve the Lord until death!" "Truly," said the Spirit. "They will rest from their labor; for their works will follow them." (Rev. 14:13). ... "And I was told the number of those who were sealed--144,000 from the twelve tribes of Israel." They SAY TOGETHER, "SALVATION is from the LAMB, and to our God who is ON THE THRONE!" One of the elders asked me, "Who are the people dressed in white, and where did they come from?" "I don't know," I replied. "You know. ." And he said to me, "They are the ones who prevailed despite severe persecution. They cleansed and made their clothes white in the blood of the Lamb. Because the Lamb in the middle of the throne will be their PASTOR. He will bring them to the fountains of life-giving water; and God will wipe the tears from their eyes." They triumphed over the Devil through the blood of the Lamb and their testimony to the truth; they did not regret their lives. (Rev 7:4,10,13-14,17 ).... They sing a new song before the Throne, and the four living creatures, and the twenty-four elders. No one understands that song but the 144,000 redeemed in the world. This men who had no relation to women. They followed the Lamb wherever he went. They were redeemed from all mankind. They never lied them any fault (Rev. 14:3-5).
      All are leading here! It stands in the holy place in the sky /CZcams🔝

    • @zucostv7609
      @zucostv7609 Před měsícem +6

      ​@@nadir15 if you have fact present it let's see........the problem I have with Arab is there religion.....but Arabs are nice people

    • @davidh4374
      @davidh4374 Před měsícem +1

      @nadir15
      Why do you think he's crazy?

    • @bettizbest2648
      @bettizbest2648 Před měsícem

      Crazy is your pedophet Mohamhead.

  • @maorfreeman9474
    @maorfreeman9474 Před měsícem +44

    You can't make peace with enemies. You make peace with DEFEATED enemies

    • @Bill-kw2fx
      @Bill-kw2fx Před měsícem

      Yes Jew lost already

    • @KaL1806
      @KaL1806 Před 29 dny +6

      @@Bill-kw2fx No, they won against Egypt and made peace with them after.
      By giving back a lot of their land, that they got after Egypt attacked them and lost that land.
      Thats how peace between Egypt and Israel was possible, if Egypt and the other Arab countries who started a war against Israel would have been successful, there would be no peace between Israel and Egypt, because Israel wouldn't exist anymore.

    • @Bill-kw2fx
      @Bill-kw2fx Před 29 dny

      @@KaL1806 what are you
      Smoking, they are occupied , look up that word your suppose to eat shit and do what your told, Jew land will be gone in a few days Iran is going to slap Jews back to Egypt .

    • @littlelillia
      @littlelillia Před 29 dny

      ​@@Bill-kw2fx🤡🤡🤡

  • @kathygeorgiou7687
    @kathygeorgiou7687 Před měsícem +12

    Cenk constant sarcasm & belittling attitude when answering questions is quite annoying to watch. Cenk believes he knows more than Mosab yet Mosab was born in Gaza, his father was a founder of Hamas & he grew up living that life & participating in Hamas terror until he realised it was a false ideology & made changes to better himself.

  • @Nopenot4u
    @Nopenot4u Před měsícem +64

    Cenk is a fool. Emotional and irrational responses

    • @TheDanLevy
      @TheDanLevy Před 29 dny

      The sad thing is he isn't a fool. He knows exactly what he is saying.
      Historically "The Young Turks" were a group from the early 20th Century Ottoman Empire who were the Ottoman government responsible for the Armenian & Assyrian g3nocid3s. That's who he named his company after. Just google it, it's not a secret

  • @PetratenCaat-gj4bt
    @PetratenCaat-gj4bt Před měsícem +47

    The fact people even dare to tell mossab he is wrong is ridiculous.
    He was born and raised and radicilized in gaza by his father who is a hamas founder. The only reason he didn't also torture families to death on oct 7th was because he left the radical world he lived in because he is smart and brave and he knew it was wrong.He was muslim, he is arab and sees the conflict from israels side for decades .
    I know there are more arabs(palestinians) like him but they get killed by hamas, like amin abed who spoke out but got attacked by 20 radicals and barely survived

  • @beebeebee7000
    @beebeebee7000 Před měsícem +472

    Love Mossab!
    🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇸

  • @limorweingarten9378
    @limorweingarten9378 Před měsícem +71

    Don't forget that many of the Gazans children were killed by Hamas, not Israel.

    • @PetratenCaat-gj4bt
      @PetratenCaat-gj4bt Před měsícem

      @@limorweingarten9378 yes by using them as child soldiers and the hundreds of misfired bombs were how hamas killed them directly but every death on both sides is on hamas for causing every war and not wanting peace but the destruction of israel

    • @d.tr6176
      @d.tr6176 Před 29 dny +3

      Not mentioned often enough.

    • @Mrs.CGraves
      @Mrs.CGraves Před 29 dny

      Everyone was. Had they not massacred 1300 people on Oct 7, ALL those children would be alive. The oneness is completely on Hamas for the massacre and not immediately surrendering to IDF to stop further bloodshed. Instead they bilked the West thru NGO’s and fake propaganda videos to manipulate people, stole every AID package everyday, and used children as shields.

    • @MikeHowardElectrivire
      @MikeHowardElectrivire Před 29 dny

      What evidence of that do you have?

    • @moosa86
      @moosa86 Před 29 dny +2

      @limorweingarten9378
      Don’t forget most of the civilians that were attending the outside rave in October of last year perished because of the “Hannibal doctrine.” 😬

  • @Yehuda-Shor
    @Yehuda-Shor Před měsícem +9

    As soon as you hear Cenk call Ismail Haniyeh: moderate, when it comes to a man who has a video of himself celebrating the horrific massacre of the seventh of October,
    And videos in which he talks excitedly about his ambition to sacrifice all the children in order to destroy Israel, you understand how dangerous and wrong his ideas are.

  • @SCSCyrus
    @SCSCyrus Před měsícem +165

    Mosab is far beyond Cenk both intellectually and emotionally

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem +1

      Zio-bot detected

    • @SCSCyrus
      @SCSCyrus Před měsícem +23

      @@sAfgun123 says the “sAfgun123” account lol

    • @greybushMEproductions
      @greybushMEproductions Před měsícem +18

      Cenk has the emotional maturity of a 12-year-old. It's scary.

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem

      @@SCSCyrus Well if you're not a bot then that is even more disturbing. You think a tortured brainwashed, sociopath with genocidal fantasies, who acts as a mouthpiece for Mossad is more coherent than Cenk here.

    • @littlemissdimples88
      @littlemissdimples88 Před měsícem

      That's hilarious 😂

  • @melange78
    @melange78 Před měsícem +30

    They should have asked Chenk if he has expressed an equal amount of disdain against the Turkish occupation of Cyprus.

  • @David-zx8ni
    @David-zx8ni Před měsícem +192

    Mosab Hassan Yousef could be a great leader.

    • @ryanl6316
      @ryanl6316 Před měsícem +7

      agreed

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem +4

      Leader of hell, yes

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem +1

      @Unknown-z8o1m No I don't. How dumb do you feel now?

    • @ericjayfederizo3549
      @ericjayfederizo3549 Před měsícem

      ​​He's now torment in hell with haniyeh. ​@Unknown-z8o1meternal torment.

    • @Femmeaesthetic
      @Femmeaesthetic Před měsícem +3

      He won’t, he will have to deal with many mobs threatening his life. They would also consider him a traitor, I don’t think Mosab is Martin Luther king in Gaza

  • @MarioMonsalve
    @MarioMonsalve Před měsícem +12

    Mosab sometimes gets very emotional, but he holds the best arguments to find truth👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @user-pe5qy1zw6y
    @user-pe5qy1zw6y Před měsícem +58

    Mosab Hasan Yousef is a blessing❤❤❤❤

  • @kovie9162
    @kovie9162 Před měsícem +46

    Hamas, no, Palestinians, maybe. The Allies didn't make peace with the Nazis. They defeated and destroyed them, and made peace with Germany. Peace with Hamas is a non-starter, because fundamentally it isn't capable of recognizing Israel or abandoning the violent destruction of Israel, and, given what it's done, peace with it is morally unthinkable.
    I don't see why Hamas has to represent Palestinians. Fatah represents them too, along with others. It's just one group and it doesn't have to be the one negotiated with. The premise of the question is kind of ridiculous. Instead, it should be "Can Israel Make Peace with Palestinians?"
    And the answer is obviously yes, because it HAS made peace with them, only to have the deal rejected by extremists on both sides. But this can't happen again until Hamas is either destroyed or replaced, and since it can't really be destroyed, it has to be replaced. Until then, no peace, because it's simply not possible.

    • @melo39987
      @melo39987 Před 29 dny +1

      Because the entire body of people has the same ideology and have nothing else in mind other than the dissolution of Israel. They don’t want a two state solution. They want Israel to become Palestine. How can you change that?

    • @littlelillia
      @littlelillia Před 28 dny

      Make peace with Arabs.
      Palestinians don't exist.
      The Palestinians of '48 are the Israelis of current time.
      Palestine was split, and the Arabs waged wars which they lost, end of story.

  • @thevillageyid
    @thevillageyid Před měsícem +63

    I just like listening to Mossab, but Cenk is beyond annoying and we all know his position. I'll just skip the parts where Cenk talks, hehe.

    • @vangielee1403
      @vangielee1403 Před měsícem +8

      Lolz so true. Im only here coz I am always fascinated on hearing Mossab. Cenk is seriously a waste of time.

  • @lilep666
    @lilep666 Před měsícem +176

    did the Allies make peace with the Nazis?

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit Před měsícem +6

      nope. they rejected multiple peace offerings. even ones that included release of all jews

    • @lilep666
      @lilep666 Před měsícem +16

      @@007kingifrit Good. And i say that as someone that has a grandmother that survived the holocaust.

    • @regandouglas
      @regandouglas Před měsícem

      ​@@007kingifrit The fate of the Jews (or any of the other victims of the holocaust) was never a consideration during WW2.
      The Allies fought the Axis to stop them from invading and imposing their fascist regimes onto their countries. That's it, that's all!

    • @BaphometicDescent
      @BaphometicDescent Před měsícem +5

      @@007kingifrit yeah dunno about that chief.

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit Před měsícem

      @@BaphometicDescent the jews for trucks program is a fact

  • @rosmariegisin4475
    @rosmariegisin4475 Před měsícem +14

    Bravo Mosab this radical Islam is so very brutal and criminals💯🤛👍👍👍

  • @osc4145
    @osc4145 Před měsícem +9

    Mosab Hassan has been through so much and he knows exactly what Islam is about!!!!!!

  • @willismlo9919
    @willismlo9919 Před měsícem +79

    Mosab presented the fundamental truths about the conflict, while Cenk presented moral arguments while being a hypocrite. By the way, using examples of peace negotiations between Israel & Egypt, Türkiye & Greece just highlighted his lack of depth or he just plain anti Israel.

  • @MichelSabbah-mj4jk
    @MichelSabbah-mj4jk Před měsícem +75

    I never knew Cenk could be considered an expert on Israel situation. He has been very vocal against Israel since October 7 . He is in line with the country he belongs to : Turkey

  • @user-ji2yk7wu4n
    @user-ji2yk7wu4n Před měsícem +572

    Cenk is just a clown

    • @CrusaderGeneral
      @CrusaderGeneral Před měsícem +22

      an ev il one

    • @mashkanyc
      @mashkanyc Před měsícem +14

      Thought so too.. but when he doubled down after that pause .. he got some issues.. I want to say he’s not a good dude.. but stopping myself but that was some scary stuff of his true character to slip out

    • @TheKillarStyle
      @TheKillarStyle Před měsícem +1

      maybe he is but you are the evil in person peopel like you who support warcrimes and the terörist group of idf than you have not to talk about humanity or somthink like that because you are the new nazis.

    • @takiyaazrin7562
      @takiyaazrin7562 Před měsícem

      Secularism gave progress to the West

    • @user-xd3wl4kj9f
      @user-xd3wl4kj9f Před měsícem +9

      He is Turkish Muz maybe.. What you hope from chenle? 😂😂😂
      Maybe he leave Muz, but he become atheist, that hate still live in his heart

  • @XFX4JOHN
    @XFX4JOHN Před měsícem +5

    The Closing of Mosab Hassan as he said it, just WOW 👌👌👌👏👏👏👏👏

  • @jkfradk
    @jkfradk Před měsícem +7

    It took this much time: 16:50 to get Cenk Uygur to that point where he exhausts all his arguments and then just starts repeating them in a raised emotional voice 😂

  • @user-ln7de3ku5f
    @user-ln7de3ku5f Před měsícem +67

    Mosab please don't tire out

  • @CarlosMichan-bf4zc
    @CarlosMichan-bf4zc Před měsícem +432

    Cenk is a clown

  • @ericgelman9404
    @ericgelman9404 Před měsícem +42

    Chek's problem is that he oversimplifies this situation... He's answers are always so basic....

    • @Allmaechtige
      @Allmaechtige Před měsícem +12

      His problem is that he doesn't have a single convincing argument. just rhetoric and accusations. he is inauthentic

    • @Thenoobestgirl
      @Thenoobestgirl Před měsícem +5

      He has many problems, but the main one here is that he doesn't see Hamas as villains because he agrees with them.

  • @henriettemcpartlin8640
    @henriettemcpartlin8640 Před měsícem +10

    I can’t watch Cenk anymore. Ugh

  • @mbassan
    @mbassan Před měsícem +14

    As an Israeli, what really bothers me about people like Cenk is that he speaks about the situation as if Israel were some empire colonizing a far away land, that only needs stop doing it, and everything will be fine.
    The CZcams algorithm blocks me if I describe the things I am seeing with my own eyes on a daily basis. But we are fighting to survive here...

  • @SohelBahjat
    @SohelBahjat Před měsícem +142

    I almost puked hearing what stupid arguments made by
    @cenkuygur
    in this debate!

    • @TheKillarStyle
      @TheKillarStyle Před měsícem +1

      ohh and what arguments did the idf spy hasan make tell me pls???

    • @SohelBahjat
      @SohelBahjat Před měsícem +7

      @@TheKillarStyle The argument is that the Palestinians are actually Muslim Arabs and the West Bank is actually a Jordanian territory and Gaza was Egyptian, end of story!

    • @TheKillarStyle
      @TheKillarStyle Před měsícem

      @@SohelBahjat really they are muslims arabs you are so smart guy and that your point of it really??? Westbank was never jordain and gaza was never egypt that all your lies that you want to believe it wasnt any of it.

    • @SohelBahjat
      @SohelBahjat Před měsícem +6

      @@TheKillarStyle Nope, it is the shocking truth, I know!

    • @TheKillarStyle
      @TheKillarStyle Před měsícem

      @@SohelBahjat Not shocking at all and Not the truth that is what you want to believe but not the reality 2 different thinks.

  • @shlomtzi84
    @shlomtzi84 Před měsícem +180

    “If you take away the battle against the Jews from the Palestinian Identity, there is no Palestinian Identity “
    That’s why there will never be peace between the 2 entities

    • @bernadetteadolf3801
      @bernadetteadolf3801 Před měsícem +14

      Araber, no Palästinenser

    • @vadifey
      @vadifey Před měsícem +2

      @Shlomtzi84 - wow so well said, loving it!

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem +10

      Absolutly not true. There were jewish Palestinians who lived side by side with other non jewish palestinians so no thats not their identity. There is Palestinian identity.

    • @shannonnaicker4040
      @shannonnaicker4040 Před měsícem +1

      I like this.

    • @satiricgames2129
      @satiricgames2129 Před měsícem

      @@autograndeunlimited lol arabs where arabs jews where palastians you dont even kjnow ur own fake history

  • @davids2970
    @davids2970 Před měsícem +91

    Cenk should read Hamas charter carefully

    • @PuffleGlurp
      @PuffleGlurp Před měsícem

      YOU should read it... they changed it after winning the election decades ago... why are you Zionists so Stupid?

    • @choyayahyah
      @choyayahyah Před měsícem +22

      He did and he agrees with it. He just won't say it explicitly

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem +1

      You should read the Likud charter

    • @kidagave1
      @kidagave1 Před měsícem

      @@sAfgun123there you go again Abed Allah. You’re like a little rat 🐀

    • @davidh4374
      @davidh4374 Před měsícem +2

      @sAfgun123 what's that?

  • @Sealsco
    @Sealsco Před měsícem +33

    Without the lies, Islam dies.

  • @jonathan3488
    @jonathan3488 Před měsícem +10

    The answer is no. 1000000000%

  • @jankaufmann4305
    @jankaufmann4305 Před měsícem +132

    The discussion in this war is absurd. First.
    Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. The same goes for any related conflict: Hezbollah, Houthis, etc…the more peacefully you try to live with them, the more visible their genocidal intents becomes.
    People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

    • @Yehuda-Shor
      @Yehuda-Shor Před měsícem +4

      As soon as you hear Cenk call Ismail Haniyeh: moderate, when it comes to a man who has a video of himself celebrating the horrific massacre of the seventh of October,
      And videos in which he talks excitedly about his ambition to sacrifice all the children in order to destroy Israel, you understand how dangerous and wrong his ideas are.

    • @dustinbaker8272
      @dustinbaker8272 Před měsícem

      @@jankaufmann4305 acted selflessly. They banned everything from concrete to candybars from entering the country. Their blockade destroyed the Gaza economy.

    • @dustinbaker8272
      @dustinbaker8272 Před měsícem

      @jankaufmann4305 Israel has barricaded Gaza for 15 years, wrecking it's economy. That is not being selfless

    • @GanjanBanan
      @GanjanBanan Před 29 dny

      @@dustinbaker8272 That is a complete lie. And how convenient of you to forget Gaza has a border with Egypt.
      By the way, that same border is filled with underground tunnels which were used for years (with Egyptian silent agreement) to smuggle weaponry, drugs, and much more to Gaza.
      Before you spew nonsense, check yourself and educate yourself. Be humble.

    • @ThewiseOne23
      @ThewiseOne23 Před 29 dny

      Lol. What a brainwashed human you are. So if Israel really does want peace, why not give up the West Bank and Gaza and give them statehood?? Simple, because they want to slowly take more land from the West Bank, which they are illegally settling into. ( that’s actually a fact under the international law ). So if Israel is doing that in the West Bank, is that really them looking for peace? I’m sure if I come and settle in your house or build an illegal settlement in your backyard, you would probably be angry right? Stop being brainwashed and do some homework please. If Israel really did want to try and make peace they would give them their own statehood.

  • @Allmaechtige
    @Allmaechtige Před měsícem +25

    Es gibt nichts aber auch nichts was ich an Herr Mosab nicht bewundere. Ich bete dafür das Ihr Wort Herr Mosab, so viele Muslime wie möglich erreicht.
    Ich danke Gott das es Sie gibt. Amen. ❤️🙏

  • @shannonnaicker4040
    @shannonnaicker4040 Před měsícem +32

    Cenk doesn't understand that Hamas wants Israel gone 😅

    • @ddh9308
      @ddh9308 Před měsícem +5

      He wants Israel also gone, like Erdogan...😉

    • @freeBalochistan-n7l
      @freeBalochistan-n7l Před 29 dny

      Lol, bro... He's been the same for past 100 years. Show me 1 Islamic country that will allow Jews or Christians or non-Muslims to live with equal rights. None exist. Islam is indeed a religion of Peace 😅

    • @chenrhrh
      @chenrhrh Před 29 dny +1

      He probably knows it, but just chooses to ignore it lol

    • @GanjanBanan
      @GanjanBanan Před 29 dny

      He is a part of the other Jihad, not the violent kind, but the misleading, manipulative and misinforming type of Jihad.
      He also wants Israel gone inside his heart, he just chose a different route to see that come to fruition. That b*s "Palestinian state" he and all those who believe in that lie push towards, is just another step towards their ultimate goal of eliminating Israel, and if you saw some footage from 07/10/2023 you definitely know how they intend to do that.
      They work methodically and slowly towards that goal, Cenk is definitely complicit and he knows that 100%

  • @yanp9071
    @yanp9071 Před měsícem +5

    Such an absurd claim that Israel killed Haniyah and not Sinwar because Haniyah was a moderate.
    1. He was no moderate.
    2. He had no power in the negotiations, Sinwar was always the real leader.
    3. If Israel had a chance to kill Sinwar, they would. And they will.

    • @emanuelaturco4633
      @emanuelaturco4633 Před 4 dny

      They had the chance when they treated his brain cancer, it proves how human Israelis are.

  • @user-pe5qy1zw6y
    @user-pe5qy1zw6y Před měsícem +12

    It’s a war. Cenk thinks there needs to be a ‘tie’ in the amount of casualties😂

  • @MrAndrewmore
    @MrAndrewmore Před měsícem +18

    Why does anyone pay attention to Cenk Uygur? He is a deeply unserious person.

    • @benjistern5874
      @benjistern5874 Před 10 dny

      He’s only on as he’s emotional and brings clicks from the pro hamas filth

  • @Ubbe6
    @Ubbe6 Před měsícem +16

    This is a debate between Middle East thinking against Western thinking. Mosab Hassan Yousef understands this conflict better than anyone else. But what do we do with 4,5 million Palestinians in Gaza and Westbank? In my opinion it’s a problem for the World Community who has created this problem. If there will be a small Palestinian state. This State must be democratic, multicultural , multi religious and even contain Jewish communities. (Like Israel) The two states have to cooperate because of the small area. So when will these Palestine leaders stand up and raise their voice? Sorry to say, but as Mosab said, this conflict is not about land…

  • @lilep666
    @lilep666 Před měsícem +46

    1929 Hebron, was that after 57 years of so called occupation too?

    • @dani-ks9cg
      @dani-ks9cg Před měsícem +4

      Good comment!

    • @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci
      @KathyPrendergast-cu5ci Před měsícem

      Too many anti-Israel fools still seem to think Oct. 7th was the very first time in history their blessed long-suffering “Palestinians” aka Arabs ever raised a finger to the Jews.
      Of course they’ve never heard of Hebron in 1929; most of them give you a blank look if you bring up the Second Intifada and the hundreds of Israeli civilians- including children - killed and maimed in terror attacks then. And that was only 20 years ago.

  • @jacquesrivette2956
    @jacquesrivette2956 Před měsícem +4

    If I were Çenk and i would be invited to DEBATE M.H.Y , the son of the founder of Hamas, i would say no thank you. Cause sitting there and debate someone like him is arrogance and his ignorence knows no bound.

  • @mitchellbelzer1359
    @mitchellbelzer1359 Před měsícem +6

    Torah is the will and wisdom of the Creator and the blueprint for all of creation ❤

  • @karleone28
    @karleone28 Před měsícem +20

    Cenk wouldn't report a suicide bomber if the circumstances would tell him not to. You have to keep this in mind.

  • @hadror13
    @hadror13 Před měsícem +46

    Cenk is absolutely ignorant about this conflict

  •  Před měsícem +89

    I don't see how Israel can negotiate with a group who's one and only goal is Israel's destruction.
    Israel has shown on many occasions that they are able and willing to negotiate. But they also want their enemies to know that if they insist on violence, then the violence they get back in return will be 100 times worse.

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem +1

      Hamas has said that they would agree to a two state solution with pre 1967 borders

    • @kovie9162
      @kovie9162 Před měsícem +6

      @@sAfgun123 No they have not. Back that up with hard evidence. Even Arafat, who said this, was ultimately unable to do it. Palestinian leadership has fundamentally been incapable of agreeing to and abiding by the sine qua non of ANY peace deal with Israel, recognizing it fully and renouncing any attempt, violent or not, to destroy it, in whole or part. A peace deal in which Palestinians refused to agree to this would be pointless and ridiculous.

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem

      ​@@kovie9162the evidence is that evey year the UN holds a vote for a 2 atate solution for 1967 borders and every year only the us and israhell veto it!

    • @sAfgun123
      @sAfgun123 Před měsícem

      @@kovie9162 Yes they have stated this. On April 25th reported by AP news. I can't post links here but a simple google search would bring up the article.

    • @davidh4374
      @davidh4374 Před měsícem +3

      @sAfgun123 that has nothing to do with this debate.

  • @albertlouisfernandes279
    @albertlouisfernandes279 Před 29 dny +4

    Cenk,
    Gaza was not occupied by Israel but what did the Hamas do? Turned it into a terror state? Can you please answer this question?

  • @uniqueme1976
    @uniqueme1976 Před měsícem +7

    Give Cenk a food debate instead.. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @sarahk93882
    @sarahk93882 Před měsícem +28

    Does cenk make any actual points? Israel has not prevented Palestinian state, Palestinians have. He made that point when he discussed “peace” with Egypt.

  • @giselapfeifer4666
    @giselapfeifer4666 Před měsícem +90

    You should ask: Can Hamas make peace with Israel.. they are the aggressors!!

  • @shtuny7795
    @shtuny7795 Před měsícem +15

    Mossab is brilliant and so right. The arabs sacrifice their children so what Israel supposed to do?
    O adore Mossab❤

  • @AA-oc9vu
    @AA-oc9vu Před měsícem +6

    Thank God for Mosab Yousef, who could say it better to the ignorant?

  • @Come.Walk.With.Me.
    @Come.Walk.With.Me. Před měsícem +5

    Gosh, the moderator’s soft. Have you ever been to the Middle East? That’s how they talk. They’re passionate and loud. They’re that way when they’re rejoicing too, not just in debate. Cenk needs to be talked to like that anyway, he has the mental capability to understand like a twelve year old.

    • @brenlee9325
      @brenlee9325 Před měsícem

      Very true. A cultural difference

  • @adnoooo
    @adnoooo Před měsícem +42

    Just here to say HELL NO!, can you make peace with isis ?!?!?

  • @trulsellingster645
    @trulsellingster645 Před měsícem +13

    It is telling that the question is not framed quite the opposite: Can Hamas make peace with Israel? It would be an absurd question.

  • @user-qd1qq8vs5n
    @user-qd1qq8vs5n Před měsícem +115

    Cenk is a such a passionate dishonest debater. It’s futile to have a serious debate without him going back to his talking points

    • @kovie9162
      @kovie9162 Před měsícem +7

      He's a fool, everything else becomes irrelevant once you realize that.

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem

      Nope he is truthful unlike mossad

    • @hadror13
      @hadror13 Před měsícem

      @autograndeunlimited he's an imbecile. This is clear to anyone who knows anything about this conflict

    • @nope-ot9pg
      @nope-ot9pg Před měsícem +3

      ​@@autograndeunlimited he resorts to his feelings and whataboutism.
      He didn't offer anything except gossip.

    • @autograndeunlimited
      @autograndeunlimited Před měsícem

      @@nope-ot9pg nope he offered facts like how the time most hostages were saved was through negotiations thats fact not feeling you are ironicallt resorting to feelings

  • @2589003
    @2589003 Před měsícem +6

    Can US make peace with Bean-Ladeng?😂

  • @jakep1979
    @jakep1979 Před měsícem +5

    Cenk what does he know?! he has barley left his own bedroom.

  • @marielouisenilsson3766
    @marielouisenilsson3766 Před měsícem +87

    Mosab is brilliant ❤

    • @PuffleGlurp
      @PuffleGlurp Před měsícem +2

      a brilliant 💩, that's for sure.

    • @Allmaechtige
      @Allmaechtige Před měsícem +3

      He is honest. He can't lie and he hates being lied to.

    • @PuffleGlurp
      @PuffleGlurp Před měsícem

      @@Allmaechtige You cannot be serious.... 😆🤣😂
      Mosab is a hack! a lousy paid propagandist who uses outdated stale Hasbara that even an ineffectual bad debater like Cenk is easily batting out the park!

    • @marielouisenilsson3766
      @marielouisenilsson3766 Před měsícem

      @@PuffleGlurp and you're a little nobody who can't stand the truth

  • @ayaxer
    @ayaxer Před měsícem +50

    Cenk knows nothing about this topic

  • @stellag4042
    @stellag4042 Před měsícem +21

    Mosab is honest, brave person. World would be much better place if all Muslims were like him, or if Muslims like him would confront radical Islamists

  • @pamelaleibowitz3019
    @pamelaleibowitz3019 Před měsícem +5

    Sadly you have no idea the mentality of these people ! The naivety is mind boggling !