Half in the Bag: Oppenheimer and The Hollywood Implosion
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2023
- Happy Barbenheimer everyone! Watch as these two elderly losers stall for half the video before finally discussing what some are calling the best movie of the year: Oppenheimer! In addition to that, Mike and Jay discuss the ongoing writer and actor strikes as well as it's consequences on movies, theaters, streamers, audiences, and most importantly what effect it will have on David Zaslav. Won't someone please think of poor David Zaslav?!
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Did anyone else laugh when they name dropped Kennedy as if they were setting up a historical expanded universe?
That part blew my mind!
The trailer also made it seem like Einstein was being recruited in a similar situation to the Hulk in Avengers.
I chuckled at that, there were people gasping in the audience and I felt ashamed to exist
i smirked and nodded when they name dropped Kennedy
*DiCaprio pointing at TV meme*
These depressed elderly gentlemen should indeed watch Chernobyl. It's gonna lift their spirits.
One of my favorite shows of all time! That courtroom scene…
Yes
They can watch when the wind blows afterword as a tripple feature.
We all loved the naked miners!
Less of the old. I share Kays' birthday and have only had one hip replaced.
Mike and Jay are like an old married couple. Jay is Mikes externalized memory, finishing every vague ponderings of Mike and filling in the details
This needs some traction, please, people
That was beautiful.
Simple explanation really. Since the beginning of Red Letter Media CZcams channel we have actually been watching output from a neural dissemination machine. Jay was mortally wounded in Afghanistan. Forgot to clear a corner and took a bullet for his carelessness.
He was extracted back to the FOB by his buddies Corporal Stolklasa and Private Evans. By either sheer will or dumb luck he survived but was left with only a partially functioning brain. Not one to pass up on some fresh grunt meat to tinker with; he was flow back stateside and now resides connected to a prototype mind interpreter (co-developed by DARPA and Mossad). Here he will remain; deep in the bowels of Walter Reed in a darkened wing only known as the "Meat Locker".
What we have been watching all these years are a reality cobbled together by a tortured and fractured mind. A world where he is the smartest and also the most miserable. Maybe he deserves it, maybe he has grown to love it.
Hang in there Gunnery Sergeant Bauman. Your legacy will never truly die.
And I *Jizzed in my pants*
I thought this movie was okay............. Jay, please elaborate.
When I was leaving the theater during the credits people were sitting there waiting for an after credits scene. Were they expecting a reveal for the Oppenverse?
Niels Bohr: Quantumania.
It's not always about an after-credits scene. Even before they became common I typically stayed to watch the credits.
Maybe they just want to watch the end credits. I always do. It's interesting reading the names of random people who helped make movies a reality.
@@DKay-gl3hvmaybe I’m a weirdo, I always stay for the credits. It’s like a respect thing, asinine maybe-but if it was a stage show I’d stay for bows.
i wait until everyone leaves because i have agoraphobia and hate being perceived visually by other human beings lol
Usually stayed during the credits and talked about the movie
"I went deaf cuz the movie was so goddamn loud. I've had several panic attacks. It's everything you want in a film." - Jay's review for Barbie
that was me during Spiderverse 2
He went deaf before the Ken power ballad dance off, a HUGE mistake.😭
Barbie was pure woke Garbage full of THE MESSAGE. But hats off to the marketing team. 👍👍
@@snaphaan5049 critical drinker is just cringe - make your own opinions peasant.
Now I am become deaf. The destroyer of eardrums.
"I have become plastic, its fantastic"
-Steve Openheimer
"And Barbie, assuming her many armed form so as to impress Ken..."
Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly
Open … heimer… open…
Do you have the same kind of dementia as Mike?
@@lookoutforchris Are you mad I got Steve's last name wrong? 🥺
@@ReinBelmontno but Steve’s gonna be pissed.
Rich has said nonstop on Pre-Rec over 5 years ago that every game he loves, he has a physical copy or DRM free copy saved on his computer because he doesn't trust any gaming hosting services because as good as they seem now, you never know what they'll do in the future. Jay and Mike have just experienced this in reality for the first time with streaming shows
Rich as usual is the far-sighted jolly sage of the gang
7:57 “A 3 hour long panic attack” is the best way to describe Oppenheimer
It’s also good to see Mike watching some animated shows, I think they should watch more animated stuff in general.
ok
@@tritamtran7264 Good talk!
I mean Mike was in Smiling Friends
See I don't agree. I thought Dunkirk was by far Nolan's most anxiety inducing movie, Oppenheimer's stakes are a lot less intense (for the main characters).
I agree I really wanted to see what they had to say about across the spiderverse unless they did cover it and I missed it
Oppenheimer must have been very nostalgiac for Mike. He was in his mid 40s when they first dropped the bomb.
He rode the bomb down
I remember Mike talking about yelling Oppenheimer famous words "its oppen time!" on the way down
No that was Plinkett
Yeah the n word bomb 🙎🏿💣
@@stuart6478 opp... opp, opp, opp... oppenheimer style
A surprisingly thoughtful prequel to the Godzilla franchise.
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Fuck's sake lol
Oppenheimer was just the beginning of the Godzilla cinematic universe
Can't wait for Oppenheimer vs Godzilla: I made you, I can break you.
I picked a random shirt from my closet and only realized later the implications of wearing a Godzilla / Mothra shirt to Oppenheimer haha.
My jaw dropped when he said "So this is it then. We're some kind of Twelve Angry Men."
isn't it crazy how the consumers get fucked and the creators get fucked and somehow the studios never get fucked?
Hopefully $66M a week is a good fucking
(((jews)))
Managerialism is helluva drug
"The House always wins"
@@bronxcartel6193capitalism*
For about 3 seconds I almost didnt watch this video because I thought to myself "wait, I dont want spoilers". Then I remembered, I already know how the story begins, progresses, and ends.
I'm going to guess Barbie?
And I will never watch it as watching these guys is far more enjoyable
Now that you watched it would say that it won't take anything away from the movie?
@@Cardiopaziait did for me. I wanted more ‘gear porn’ about how the bomb was made but now I know it’s just interpersonal relationship slock. Well here to hoping I can get my money back.
just like titanic but with jugs.
Now I am become Rich Evans, the destroyer of worlds.
Least funny fanbase of any youtuber I swear to god
This goes into my collection of comments that go hard
Now I am become Mike Stoklasa, the destroyer of booze.
@@josharoo22They have their moments. Rarely.
Now I have become Red Letter, destroyer of Media.
The most arresting scene to me was immediately after the test detonation and everything was so perfectly quiet, other than the breathing. It's like the few seconds between seeing and hearing was drawn out to minutes (because it was...) and then the shock wave.
Loved that whole sequence. Kept making me think what it would have been like to be there, how the world changed in an instant.
I knew the shockwave was coming and I still jumped out of my seat when it finally arrived
That part fucking jumpscared me lol
The real test took 40 seconds for the blast to reach them. Imagine watching a distant city on the horizon dissappear in silence. Just a minute of watching a sun being born on Earth and millions of lives being erased..... in horrifying silence. The blast wave would be just an exclamation point to the eradication.
@@Monty22001I disagree. I’ve seen bomb test footage on CZcams that was more impressive than the gas explosion Nolan did.
Ironically that was a scene that would 100% have been better with CGI.
Even the test footage of the Trinity itself looked more impressive.
I was pretty disappointed tbh.
"I know how these simpletons think" might be my new favorite Jay quote. Displacing "Every single aspect about making movies is a giant pain in the ass, and it's never worth it." and "I look into the eyes of Leo Fong and see nothing but darkness"
Can you name the videos he said that in?
@mrzed88 Leo Fong Quote is from the Showdown, Robot in the Family and Bloodz Vs. Wolves BOTW, Movies being a pain in the ass quote is from their Behind the scenes Space Cop video.
I worked as a theater projectionist from 2008 to 2014. Technically, around the same time I was promoted to projectionist our titles were changed to "booth", as in projection booth, because labeling us projectionists made unionizing a possibility, apparently. In 2011 our theater converted to digital, and my entire team was laid off except for me. I worked with the digital projectors for three years before moving on, I had a reverence for film and for the technology I was handling. After I moved on I wasn't even replaced, they assigned one of their assistant managers to program the machines, but not to spend time in the projection booth at all. Every time I went back to watch a movie there the format on the screen was wrong, because the "managers" aren't given proper training or time to know what they're doing. Since everything's digital people just assume you press a button and walk away. In physical film, and in digital, we'd get film or files in SCOPE or FLAT format. SCOPE being the wider, letterbox format, while FLAT appearing closer to a home television aspect ratio, more square than SCOPE. You're supposed to program the whole playlist based on the format of the film, and sometimes you have trailers for films in different formats, and those get the box-in-a-box treatment. But somewhere along the way people just started playing SCOPE films in FLAT format, without a curtain coming down to cover the black parts of the screen. Negligence? Ease? Incompetence? Whatever the reason, it's a shame it's not treated with the same reverence as it was when I join the projection team, with career projectionists who genuinely loved their work.
This is very insightful thankyou. A dying craft. A great pity.
Was coming to the comments to say something very similar! I was lucky to be able to work as a projectionist at a small 4 screen cinema in 2022 and I popped back into the booth this weekend to meet the current projectionist for a chat about oppenheimer. Whenever we got a new dcp delivered, I'd always find time in the morning to sit inside one of the screens and begin building out our playlist for the film while skipping through it to check sound and picture. We had 2 screens in a scope ratio and 2 in a flat ratio. The projectors can automatically switch between scope and flat lenses so it was possible to program that at any point in a playlist, but the issue was that the switch took around 10 seconds so it would get very annoying having 10 seconds of black screen between every trailer. Instead I'd always run all the trailers in flat (so occasionally you would get a trailer with black bars at the top and bottom) and then just before the age rating appears, while the lights were dimming, I'd program the lens and curtains to switch to the appropriate format for the film. I think a big issue now is that I never see curtains set properly in cinemas! The black bars are made far less intrusive if the curtains are covering them. I get that not every cinema has them, and when you get into big multiplexes (that often don't have dedicated projectionists anymore, just usually the floor managers turning on the equipment in the morning and letting the playlists run), it's hard to do that kind of quality control on every film every week. What I did see with oppenheimer which was unusual was that universal supplied both a dcp file formatted in scope and one in flat, so you wouldn't necessarily need to switch lenses, just adjust the curtains, allowing you to maximise the width on a flat screen, or maximise the height on a scope one! Perhaps the cinema mike and jay went to ran the wrong version?
Another "booth" employee checking in. I left way before the theater I worked at transitioned to digital. The only bright side is that at least at the theater I worked at, managers were promoted from within, and they'd all have to work up the ranks. From concession to box office to booth and then finally some sort of management. I think they at least get the format right these days. Kind of insane that these theater chains can't bother to train the people running the projectors. Or if it's all digital, why not automate the format?
Either way, it's sad to see theaters end up mismanaged.
Thanks George Lucas!
The last movie I saw before Covid lockdowns was The Invisible Man. The projector broke down and there was nobody there who knew how to fix it, so they just refunded our money.
Jay is so midwestern he pronounces it “Ope”enheimer despite just watching the film and hearing his name 100x
Caught that too, eh?
I was gaslighted into googling it to make sure I didn't have it wrong
Mike too
I'm convinced they did that on purpose to bug people, and I have to say, it was completely successful.
There is a scene where he explains how it's pronounced Opp-enheimer as opposed to ope-enheimer as well.
Sound and pacing issues aside, I paid top dollar for a recliner couch seat in a premium IMAX UK cinema for this.
For the ENTIRE screening there were 2 flies walking on the glass in front of the projector and cast shadows over the picture in every single scene.
Thanks Nolan.
Maybe it was the same flies in this video!
>recliner couch seat
>IMAX
well there's your problem lol
@@turbochargedfilms Every seat in IMAX cinemas here are recliner couch seats
Hardly Nolan's fault
Alright, you've convinced me - 12 Angry Men DOES need a Hans Zimmer score. That was great!
The atomic bomb they dropped in 1945 was actually less of a bomb compared to Space Cop 2016
You’ve got a problem, you’re gonna die.
And only slightly more expensive.
@aarondavis8943 I did the numbers and the bomb worked out to be cheaper
Dayumm
I paid good money for Space Cop. Worth every penny.
I heard that Rich got canceled after accidentally saying “Oppenhymen” when talking about the Barbie movie. That’s why he’s not in this episode thankfully. What a nasty, nasty pervert.
Dang, that would have been a perfect moment for Jay to hit him with a slide whistle in the editing room
Close. it was "Poppenhymen." What a degenerate.
Well, that explains what happened to Mary Poppins.
he intentionally sang oppenheimer style to the tune of gangnam style, and for the first time ever japan and south korea are united in their effort to find him and destroy him
Little do you know, Rich was right! That was one of the working titles for the film, they were batting around Oppenhymen and Blue Harvest but went with Barbie because they were afraid most of the dumdums who are going to see it would get confused if they didn't have the trademark front and center.
what you're describing with the score is what my family has always called "british sound" because it was brit movies that started the trend, where the music and dialogue is really unbalanced and we turn it down to not hurt our ears, then characters start talking and we can't make anything out
From Paddington 2 to BBC Ghosts, you're right
Lawrence of Arabia really struggled with that if I recall correctly. Had to blast the volume up to make out any dialogue and then suddenly the music would start and the walls would start shaking.
Editing of Oppenheimer felt nuts, overwhelmingly fast-paced.
Like they shot 8 hours of footage and couldn't condense it further except by cutting the movie up like a trailer.
Agreed
Mike really liked Oppenheimer beacause it made him remember one obscure Star Trek episode
At least his memory of Star Trek still works
...where they accidentally create Professor Moriarity just to find an opponent capable of defeating Data?
The one where sisko poisons the atmosphere of the planet with the marquis settlements to make eddington surrender himself
Little Green Men, Deep Space 9?
taking a runny dump reminds me of an obscure star trek episode
I think Mike enjoyed Oppenheimer a little extra just because he remembers WWII. I mean he was too old at the time to be in the war himself but winning the war is still a fond memory of his.
I'm just glad FDR passed the new deal in time for Mike to retire.
I chuckled.
Now I'm imagining Mike pretending to be a German soldier to survive whilst Rich Evans screams out Aids every time he falls over drunk on the floor.
@@TommyCollier Herr Mike
The aspect ratio issue is due to theaters abandoning proper theater masking. Most standard auditoriums are the same shape/aspect ratio but without proper screen masking you get black bars on the sides or top/bottom. But electronic masking curtains break and theaters collectively decided no one cared and they don’t want to pay the cost for repairs so they abandoned the practice.
All cinema grade projectors have zoom and some tilt/shift functionality. You have to program in the correct settings for "flat" (roughly 16:9) and "scope" (~2.39:1 or whatever) so that they fill up at least one dimension of the screen so as to avoid the stupidity that the guys experienced.
But I agree with you that it is infinitely better when the theatre is also equipped with proper physical black velvet masking.
@@debrimaybar2447 @Beamber It's a little more complicated in this case - Oppenheimer is released for digital in the 2.20 aspect ratio (which incidentally conforms to the 5-perf 70mm format) and they provided 2 different DCPs to cinemas depending on if the auditorium is set up with a 2.35 screen (in which case the movie is pillarboxed) or 1.85 (in which it is letterboxed). Sounds like their cinema incorrectly projected the 2:35 version on a 1.85 screen, hence it letterboxing AND pillarboxing.
My girlfriend worked as a projectionist. Apart from telling me that they were forced to change xenon lamps on laser projector without wearing any protective gear and also that at some point they were prohibited from watching movies that they projected because the supervisor thought that they were having too much fun on the job, she also told me that after she quit her job she heard that every projectionist in the network of theaters that she used to work for got fired and replaced by a single person working remotely. One person controlled every proector in the theater network in the whole country. If the situation in USA is any similar it might explain why theater going experience is so bad now.
I am one of 7 engineers that run 43 cinemas in the UK and Ireland. I had the time to setup my base with the correct aspect ratio for Oppenheimer but time on site is a precious thing in modern cinema technical operations.
finding out Jay didn't watch Chernobyl feels like a plot hole
I think they also haven't seen better call saul.
@@hoeraufistAlso Breaking Bad…
Jay isn't really into TV shows and Mike definitely isn't going to watch a show like Chernobyl, so it's not really a surprise he hasn't seen it.
its because we're in the new universe, they both watched chernobyl in the old universe
@@davechan8613 Are you guys serious? They watch tens of hours of trash every week, how can they not skip one or two trashfests and watch something truly great?
"When did we all become such prudes?"
- Notorious sex pervert Jay Bauman upon learning about the last 10 years
* sex maniac
(((Bauman)))
I read this, and he immediatelysaid it xD
He's unironically wrong though. I have never seen a sex scene that improved a movie in any way.
@@ano_nym No
I love the symmetry of talking about a movie that is so concerned with letting the nuclear genie out of the bottle, and discussing how streaming media is it's own genie that you can't put back in it's bottle.
I’ve just realised:
- There’s a huge chunk of the film about senate meetings
- Most scenes are people talking in rooms while you’re waiting for the action to happen
- It stars Alden Ehrenreich
Does that make Oppenheimer a Star Wars prequel?
Not enough discussions about taxation of trade routes
@@Somedudeguywhatyeah there needs to be more emphasis on the trade embargos against japan
"I have become the Senate, Destroyed of the Jedi". -Palpatine, Sheev
Oppenheimer bombing at the box office would’ve been too perfect, but Christopher Nolan just had to be a competent director.
Yeah, no kidding. Who does he think he is, making a good movie in 2023?
if i didn't see it, it bombed.
Maybe someday Nolan will learn how not to lose the dialogue in the audio mix.
@@stonegasman3866an Asian man was sitting next to me the entire time and I think he liked it, also he had soft hands.
@@helmepodesarius2198 He might have been Chinese and was like "fuck Japan".
That 12 Angry Men cut is pure genius
At first I was like, hey, this isn't a bad edit, and quickly went to WHAT? It's like I'm watching a Nolan film! I can't hear shit!!! Did they make the bomb yet!?
It was a little pillarboxed but they should have letterboxed it too
Sums up how I felt during Tenet perfectly
And the funny thing about 12 angry men is its also got a very anti climactic end, you dont see the man being found not guilty in some bombastic final court scene all you see is henry fonda and the old bloke farewell each other and leave the court. The end.
@@johnb1150 i watched 12 angry men just before this video and was thoroughly freaked/weirded out when it popped up at the end with it not being related to oppenheimer or anything, i thought my browser was glitching or something.
At my theater the manager came in and said that we had missed the first 45 minutes of the movie by accident. We had not. They reset the film back and we all watched the first 15 minutes for no reason.
It's so funny that Mike still prints things out on paper.
and he also likes to buy his "content" on physical media.
You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy
I'm so glad they shot this review in 70mm so you can see the fly's wings zooming around them.
This one HitB episode required 4 miles of film. The fly also had to be digitally replaced by another fly due to recent sexual assault allegations levied against the fly.
I'm not surprised, those creatures are into some really gross stuff. (Flies too.)
Rich Evan's was the fly.
5:18 Mike getting out a piece of paper from his pocket always cheers me up
The last person to still do the *Kodak Printer Challenge*
Grammpas got his notes.
“It was long, dumb, and boring. I shit my pants” - Mike Stoklasa on Oppenheimer (2023)
It was great! and I shit my pants!
nobody shit their pants at the showing i went to. they all got up to go to the bathroom right after the bomb exploded
Yes
@@DasyatiI went right before that scene because I didn't want to feel uncomfortable during the best part of the film
I love all the "I am become...random words" title card jokes every so often
At my theater, the lights turned on twice at random scenes while i watched Oppenheimer. 10/10 experience, really felt like the bomb went off in my theater, bravo Nolan
😂
You must've booked 4DX tickets you dummy
Same
Alarm went off in my theater shortly after the scene where Oppenheimer started hearing and seeing stuff in his head. Everyone sat there for a few minutes thinking it was part of the movie before realizing it was a fire
They turned the heating up to max during the trinity test at my IMAX.
If the Barbie movie casted Rich Evans as Ken, the movie would’ve made 1 billion in an hour.
This is the truest thing that's ever been said in the history of mankind.
Barbie would have been deemed the most successful movie ever made even before it opened in theaters.
It would've cost them 12 trillion
he would've won the beach off in less than 5 seconds
A.I.s, do your thing! o_0
Best part was Oppenheimer dawning his iconic outfit like he was putting on a super suit truly one of the movies of 2023
One of the best parts! Opp's 'Suit Up' moment, like he was Batman. Badass. What a film.
Nolan has talked about that being intentional.
I laughed out loud at that 😂😂
I’m surprised to hear those comments about the runtime in the reviews. Oppenheimer felt quicker to me than most 2 hour movies I’ve seen.
Even when it ground to a halt during the final hour of endless bland dull as shit testimony?
Probably because you fell asleep.
What’s crazy is that the $100M budget for Oppenheimer is an incredibly modest budget for a summer release. This is the type of movie that actually has a chance. The 3-400M monsters like Indy 5 and Fast X and Flash, etc. are the ones doomed.
100 million considering the cast is modest, also, it shows, that the film uses that budget wisely, the spectacles are not spread throughout the film like tenet had, here the spectacles and the budget for fx work are laser focussed on specific moments and things, rest of the film is really a simple drama level production scale.
Im not a demented ancient hermit living in a hermitage on the isle of Iona and i don't even know what the last 3 films you've listed are, when their release date is, and I have no curiosity or inducement to find out.
Am I the only one who physically cringes at the sight of these numbers?
@@Ramekink no, tge disparity because of accumulated wealth is real.
@@Ramekink They’re definitely overcompensating the lack of creativity by throwing money at dumb franchise sequels
Mike pulling a classic oblivious old man move and booking tickets at the wrong theater, you love to see it.
Funny how they mock the Inception fans for being stupid then moments later tell the story of how they bought tickets for the wrong movie.
minute review of a movie Mike and Jay both like and reccomend, where the only part of the film they actually talk about is how loud the score was and that it had actors talking.
I love RLM, please never change.
To me, every single scene in this movie felt like a trailer. Whoever started this trend of characters having absurdly fast dialogue without a half-second between lines deserves a special place in hell. It's so unnatural. Not every character has to be fking Ralph Waldo Emerson machine gun spraying increasingly mundane quips. Let lines breathe again.
"Jack Quaid...he plays the bingos!"
That's historically accurate; his character is Richard Feynman, who, besides being a brilliant physicist, was also a decent bongo player. Sadly, Nolan left out another thing he did, which was sneak into other scientists' offices and crack their safes, to show how garbage security at Los Alamos was.
This is honestly a big problem I had with this movie. All of these side characters who were incredibly interesting and important scientists in their own right who receive absolutely zero characterization above the surface level, like Feynman playing the bongos. I didn't even know that character was meant to be Richard Feynman until I saw this comment. Why did he need to be played by Jack Quaid if he had no actual characterization? Same thing with pretty much every other scientist. If it hadn't been a who's-who of famous modern actors then it would have been far more immersive to me
That was supposed to be Richard fucking Fenyman?
It's like Szilard-probably one of the most importnat people in the entire run-up to the bomb- getting a single silent cameo and Oppenheimer glaring at him for reasons the film can't be bothered to explain.
Like everything else in the movie, it goes nowhere.
@joelmurie8435 it's not about all these other scientists or even building the bomb. It's about oppenheimer the man. Not an avengers ensemble film for the manhatten project.
Wouldn't make sense to give many of these other scientists screen time. They're not relevant to the film
As much as I love Feynman, and a lot of the other incredible people that took part of the project, the movie is about Oppenheimer, not a Heist movie. At least they kept his famous anecdote of not wearing goggles during Trinity.
@@Iamadumbfoolyeah it’s like everybody forgot how bad suicide squad was (an example of a movie trying to feature 60 unique characters)
“I’m assuming they thought we were perverts.”
That’s terrible, Jay, you weren’t perverts.
You *are* perverts.
Jay used to be a pervert. He still is, but he used to be too.
Sex perverts, mind you
@@rokulus7910 Keep doing your part to keep Mitch's turn-of-phrases alive, please and thank you.
All you people calling these perverts perverts are a bunch of perverts!
My momma Cocoa Bean always said - “you can forcibly take the pervert out of the theater, but you can’t take the theater out of the pervert”
I was honestly expecting a Twin Peaks Season 3 Episode 6 test detonation, and was pleasantly surprised with what Christopher Nolan went with.
Fun fact, as of 31:24 this episode has featured footage of three different Sidney Lumet movies: Twelve Angry Men in the first bout when they were comparing it to Oppenheimer's score, Dog Day Afternoon and Network when Jay talked about the 70's auteur driven movies.
Man's a master
"I am become Mike reading things off a piece of paper" could be an alternate title for the whole channel now.
There was a woman behind me laughing at literally everything in Barbie. Someone would breathe and she'd be dying. I wish I enjoyed life as much as her.
Uh-oh, maybe that was me behind you? Haha.
But really, I did try not to laugh too loudly to annoy the people around me. I found it hilarious and couldn't stop cackling... I guess it hit my sense of humor just right. But I try not to take things like this too seriously. I am miserable in 85% of my daily life, so when I get the chance to enjoy life, damn straight I'm going to enjoy it.
Drugs.
Robitussin
You still Ken!
@@ChrisHuppey The red will get ya through
When they had florence pughe grinding on Oppenheimer i couldn't help but laugh at how awkward that must have been
I was hoping for Emily Blunt to get up and shove Florence off
get over it, the Jewish sexualism was necessary to complete the plot
The first act of the movie feels like an hour and a half giant movie trailer.
I had the same feeling throughout most of the film. Not impressed.
"Now I have become drunk, the driver of cars."
- Whoppenheimer, inventor of the booze cruise, after striking a minivan.
I read this in Plinkett's voice
I liked Oppie, but this and "Mission Impossible" made me really miss the good ol days where big ass 3+ hour epics had intermissions. After the 2 hour and a half mark, with those gigantic theater soda cups, my bladder feels like its trying to split the atom
I didn't even have a drink in the movie and I was dying during seeing it. About halfway through, I left to go to the bathroom. 3 hours of this movie (while I enjoyed it) was just exhausting.
Go to the toilet _before_ the screening. No snacks or drinks while watching. At least that's how I do it.
@@rogerkincaid931 I went to the bathroom before the moving and before I left home. It didn't help. 😂
I guess I’m just one of the lucky few who doesn’t ever have to use the bathroom during movies, no matter how much soda I down
@@rogerkincaid931 I DID! I *actually* did go to the bathroom right before I went in, and it didn't help gosh darn it!
As for a no-drinks policy, for me personally that's part of the fun of the theater going experience, it's fun drinking the unique shit in the coca cola freestyle machines. It just makes it feel like more of an event, which is part of the reason I leave my house in the first place.
At the end of the day, however, theaters NEED me to buy concessions to make any profit, so intermissions are a win win for everyone.
Score levels must vary theatre to theatre. I saw it in 70mm imax and the sound mix was incredible. Calibrated perfectly. Adds to the flow of the film rather than distracts.
I saw it in a regular theater and didn't have dialogue issues. I agree the score was fantastic. I guess they had a badly set up center channel to go with the badly framed picture.
I felt the same way walking out from oppenheimer. So many people that have lost all capacity to follow a simple story told in the most obviously dumbed down way yet cant follow it. Theres literally 0 math in the whole movie. We never see a single mathematical equation. The whole mechanics of making the bomb is glossed over. And still even showing a blackboard with stuff on it scares a lot of people. Insane.
I have not seen a single person complain about that. The complaints are about the way the scenes in the movie are badly sequenced and how Nolan never cuts anything out.
I understood the movie. It wasn’t at all complicated. It’s just a poorly told story. Every scene seems like it’s in a hurry to end. Endless constant montages with loud and overbearing music. Trinity test wasn’t even impressive. It looked like a zoomed in fireball. The footage shot in the 40’s of the real thing looked better. And no such thing as imax then. Never been a big Nolan fan but I’m shocked he makes movies like Michael Bay now.
When I saw Oppenheimer yesterday I had a man in the row behind me who fell asleep 10 minutes in and snored loudly the entire time-even during the test explosion. There was also a kid who kept kicking the back of my seat like we were on an airplane. Mike was right about movie theaters.
I used to go to the cinema twice a week. I haven't been since I got my first decent sized tv 15 years ago. Pausing, smoking, eating...I'm on heaven.
Oppenheimer was the first movie I've been to in about a month where I didn't have someone kicking my seat (but this time I didn't have anyone behind me).
Why would anyone go see a movie in public, when they don't even let you masturbate?
That’s not a reason to bash cinemas. Cinemas for the most part are positive experiences.
Kick the snoring guy's chair. Threaten the kid behind you. Problems solved! 😊
We had Inception bros in our screening too. Two of them yelled "Boom" at the explosion of the test bomb but missed the cue not having factored in the relative speeds of light and sound.
I was wishing the movie had the balls to show the worst effects of the bomb just to make inception bros cry and scream, but it sadly never went there in terms of peoples entire skin and muscles sloughing off their bodies, which is what actually happened.
How embarrassing.
Jesus that's embarrassing
@@lawrencescales9864I think you misunderstand the frat bros… a bunch of charcoal burnt vaporized face melted Japanese children would be a complete laugh fest.
I had one in group make the sound effect of a big explosion when the mushroom cloud started
I became fixated on watching the fly in the studio while they were doing this episode. I kept watching for it.
The downside to physical media is that it physically degrades. Compact discs have a shelf life of 30-something years before it can start breaking down.
The movie should've showcased Oppenheimer's greatest contribution. His hand in creating "Godzilla". The world would only have King Kong.
I do not want to think about that, but also, I'd rather a world where Hispano people's lives weren't destroyed to build a bomb that then killed thousands.
@@EmonWBKstudiosyou should repost that in English.
I saw a meme on Facebook showing the Godzilla scales in the sea and a caption about it being the end credits scene.
@@EmonWBKstudiosoh brother. Lighten up
Conversely, think about it no A-Bomb means for a longer war with Japan. Which creators' parents die before they're born? Sorry, anime fans.
Love the boys' character arcs moving away from wishing for the death of theaters and seeing the problematic nature of streaming services. It's a nuanced take.
Turns out everything is terrible 🙃
These guys seem like they would be just fine with paying 20 bucks for Blurays for every film
LONG LIVE PIRACY
It all centers around "the industry sucks", but the theatres will die regardless.
It took 12 years to get to that point.
The movie reminded me a lot of There Will Be Blood in the sense that it’s very focused on the main character and how their invention becomes their identity. And after thinking of TWBB, I definitely think Oppenheimer could have benefited from the style of score in TWBB. Most of the TWBB score is quiet and intimate but other pieces are intense but it still allows the movie to breathe
Same production designer, Ruth De Jong!
@@sarahl701 that makes soooo much sense. i feel like both use sets that are minimalist enough to emphasize the characters but also interesting enough to not look boring. and historically accurate
Imagine comparing a fictional story to a story with actual real characters and events. The movie is a character study of Oppenheimer and his decisions surrounding the project.
@@petermj1098 I don’t think they were comparing the two on the level you’re thinking of - simply the similar production design
@@petermj1098 i dont really understand how you interpreted what im talking about. This is probably my favorite movie of the year so far but seeing how the feel of the sets are so similar and it being an intense character study made me think of TWBB. And after thinking of TWBB and how well the score emphasizes character moments without overpowering the dialogue i couldnt help but think Oppenheimer could have benefited from a score like that. Maybe because i was lazy with my grammar but when i said "historically accurate" I was praising both films' sets for being historically accurate, and nothing to do with the actual plot
Chernobyl was awesome by the way. Jay would especially love the first espisode, as they portray the breakdown of reactor like it was a horror movie. Rest of it is more like a procedural but still fantastic overall. Also very good historically from what I understand, fwiwi
100% agree!
Yes😊
Apparently the black and white scenes are ones where it has near verified information that that’s EXACTLY how that scene transpired, so it’s done to be as realistic and faithful as possible. Whereas the color portions are extrapolating information for the sake of making a film.
EDIT: a direct quote from Nolan to clear up any confusion
“I knew that I had two timelines that we were running in the film,” Nolan said. “One is in color, and that’s Oppenheimer’s subjective experience. That’s the bulk of the film. Then the other is a black and white timeline. It’s a more objective view of his story from a different character’s point of view.”
What about the fission and fusion designations? Did those correspond with the black n white / color? I already forgot bc it was so early in the movie and we never got any more titles. Not even dates I don't think
Because ... life was literally greyscale in the mid-20th century so that makes it more accurate?
If this is what the game was supposed to be, it's yet another "hit the audience over the head" layer of unnecessary visual clutter.
@@pluckyduck11y Yes. From an article that I'm not allowed to link:
"By that rationale, “Fission” is Robert Oppenheimer’s life through his eyes, shown in living color as the man himself lives those moments and/or reflects on them. Meanwhile, Lewis Strauss’ confirmation hearing plot line in “Fusion” shows the man recalling some of those same events from his viewpoint, as he’s embroiled in his confirmation hearing to become Secretary of Commerce."
Though I doubt all of the "Fusion" scenes are from Strauss' viewpoint/recollection. They seem too earnest.
@@jpotter2086 how is having less color visual clutter lmfao.
@@jpotter2086are you like 80? How is black and white somehow "visual clutter?"
The Barbenheimer meme is kinda funny to me, because video games had one of those in 2020, when Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Doom Eternal were relased the same day.
It still feels like there is a advertising firm somewhere that caused all of that stuff to happen and they just happened to really nail making it feel organic. Seeing so many people get caught up in a zeitgeist around products had me feeling like Roddy Piper when he puts on the glasses and every meme changed to: "Consume".
Just saw it in IMAX 70mm. Generously curious if the theater they went to had bad sound. I thought the sound mixing was fantastic all throughout.
Also reporting in to say that the 70mm showing I went to had great sound. Makes me think that if Mike had bought the right tickets, this vid would’ve been ~7 minutes shorter
Yeah I thought it was Nolan's best mixed movie to date. You could still argue there was too much music throughout, but I wasn't massively distracted by it.
Pirate everything. Buy physical media of the great stuff. Buy a digital copy (or movie ticket if it's still playing) of the good stuff.
The writers strike is the best recent release to come out of Hollywood.
LOL
i clapped because i remember strikes.
Its the funniest comedy production I've seen in years.
I'm honestly surprised Jay hadn't watched Chernobyl, slow and haunting, human despair and misery
He'd love it!
Sadly it's also a pile of ridiculous anti-Russian propaganda.
Still waiting on the Re:View of Threads, personally
Not enough body gore/mutilation for him to take interest.
@@davidofthenorth6531 literally melting from the inside out while alive, for days and morphine doesn't help isn't body horror enough?
@KR-hg8be oh you, I forgot about the scene with the firefighters! Yeah, that was horrifying, Jay would love the Chernobyl show!
I completely lost it when Oppenheimer said with a deep and reminiscing voice:
"I am Barbie, in a barbie world,
i am plastic,
i am fantastic"
Now I have become Barbie
the the woo'er of woo's
@@NationalistsRuinAmerica I suppose we all thought that, one way or another
"I am become Allan, Friend of Ken"
watching you guys talk about movies is always such a good time, i hope they dont stop making them......good
I have to wonder if RLM's desire to see movie theaters fail (which I thoroughly disagree with) has any correlation to how apparently shitty and incompetent every theater in Wisconsin they go to seems to be run.
Exactly. I think they just can't be assed to drive the distance to a decent movie theater, despite claiming to be film critics.
I don't understand why ANY film critic or enjoyer of film in general would want to see theaters disappear entirely. They're an essential part of the cinema experience that you can't replicate at home or with streaming.
Maybe they've legitimately lost the ability to feel joy.
@@Eisenbison I definitely see where you're coming from but the experience in local theatres can vary wildly. When I lived in Dublin and had choice of cinemas, I could pick the one where the experience was pretty good most of the time. But I moved to Essex for work and every experience I had in the small town I lived in was just horrible, really bad behaviour from the other patrons ruining the experience. Something like that can really sour you on going to the cinema. I hear that as a common complaint of people who are sick of going to the cinema. I'd love to see poorly behaved patrons being ejected with no refund personally, but I understand that the poorly paid cinema staff don't want to risk getting stabbed over something like that.
Somebody should make a streaming distribution platform that you just pay a 1-time fee and get the movie for like a week, and cut out all of the faff with subscriptions.
@@teagame1011 I'm pretty sure Amazon Prime Video does rentals. CZcams actually also does rentals, mostly because it isn't by default a paid site.
@@Eisenbison I agree. I feel like you can't like film as a medium and think that watching a movie at home forever is an acceptable future.
When the film ended and the credits started running I heard someone say “do we stay to the post credits scene to see if Oppenheimer will return?”
Yes in the sequel. Oppenheimer vs Heisenberg, the kingdom of the blue crystal..😂
The mid credits scene was just Thomas Schelling talking to Oppenheimer and saying "we've got another job for you. For this one you'll need a partner" and Oppenheimer says "no way, I work alone" and Schelling says "it's not up for debate. He's a little on the young side. You'll like him" and then young Sheldon walks out
What irks me now is that streaming service now have ads in them. So why am I paying for this again? Ad revenues should pay for all that.
It was very brave of Jay to admit that he doesn't think Florence Pugh is sexually attractive.
Jay confirmed for gay
Well... everyone's different...I guess...
I mean how tho. 😂 Nolan a real one if you know what I mean
@@dunnowy123 Forever grateful to him
The commie girl?
There were a lot of Inception bros when I saw the 70mm screening. Three were in front of me and all fell asleep, one was there with his girlfriend. At one point he took his smartphone out to play a game, and he held it at his eye level too so we could all see it.
Then he got up and stretched for a solid ten seconds while standing in the middle of the theater, and then walked out. His girlfriend followed him shortly after looking uncomfortable and like she didn't want to leave.
The theater going experience is just as magical as ever!
I'm actually in shock, as a foreigner that don't live in the US, i never even heard about those so called inception Bros. The concept around the existence of such groups amazes and confuse me at the same time. A Lot of women wearing pink to watch Barbie here where i live though.
Don't make it more complex than it is.
There were always idiots in cinema.
That's it.
How was the 70mm experience?
@@felipepicolo How about Batman Bros?
Mike and Jay may be forgetting that "In Nolan We Trust" crowd gathered around Nolan's Batman movies first and foremost (remember it being called the Nolanverse), then continued praising everything he did based not on actual quality (which is indisputably there) - but based on emotional associations they already made.
"In Nolan We Trust" is not a rational argument - it is emotional, faith-based, wishful thinking which demands the status of perpetual, unquestionable, truth. It's religious. Cultish.
I.e. Those who got "incepted" with the "In Nolan We Trust" idea have to maintain that belief even when they no longer believe it, otherwise they may need to examine that belief, which might lead them to examination of their other beliefs... and that can be very uncomfortable.
If you don't really "trust in Nolan", did you ever love all those movies you said you did? How about the sports you like? Actors? Maybe you're not really into women?
Instead, they'll probably just conclude that they didn't like this one as much as the others because "reasons", foregoing on any introspection.
Tarantino, Spielberg, Scorsese, Zack Snyder, Kevin Smith, Adam Sandler... they all have such fans.
And let's not even start about brand loyalty to franchises like Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel, DC... etc. etc.
@@d3nza482 Wow, you are so awakened and intelligent. What a thought-provoking message.
The endless cynicism and navel gazing this community chooses to engage in sometimes is just outright fucking cringe lol. I love RLM and tend to feel mostly the same about the industry and the endless garbage that gets pumped out, I just don’t share in this view that anyone watching a film for different reasons than mine is somehow less than me, or that they’re stupid for getting bored or whatever. Assuming this story is real, who gives a shit? Yeah it’s rude to act out even 10% of what’s described here in a theater but did you come to see Oppenheimer or transfix endlessly on a rude moviegoer, to the point of noting the body language and expression of his girlfriend as they left? And then follow that with this endless description of a personality type created in your head. Idk. It is very weird.
Watching Grave of the Fireflys after watching Oppenheimer was the best decision I’ve made this year.
Add in Threads and Barefoot Gen and you've got the feel good film festival of the year!
Grave of the Fireflies is already a hard watch. With Oppenheimer, you'd probably need the alcohol capacity of your typical RLM staffer.
Grave of the Fireflies should come with a warning that lists the phone number for the suicide hotline.
I didn't realize they let you keep your phone on the suicide watch floor.
How are you still alive after THAT double feature?
Honestly the biggest surprise from Oppenheimer was a few seconds into the credits and seeing James Woods' name as an exec
that got me like this 😳 too
Glad to see Nolan hasn’t canceled Woods like the majority of Hollywood has.
I had similar thoughts you all had about IMAX when I saw The Hateful Eight on 70mm. The outdoor shots that bookend the movie are gorgeously shot, but a majority of that movie takes place inside a single room cabin. Oh well, can’t complain too much, grateful I still have a local theater that can project 70mm. Saw Oppenheimer there and they definitely know how to properly frame it, the 70mm definitely added a lot to that movie.
Mike says terlits and no one bats an eye.
Rich Evans says folding chable and everyone loses their minds.
Chable
It’s all…according to plaaan.
Auto correct makes fools of us all
He also said "crisis of conciousness" which is a clear sign of his steep mental decline
Nolan reference
The most shocking thing about this is that Mike actually enjoyed Lower Decks.
Lower Decks is amazing but i'm shocked and chagrined that he doesn't like Strange New Worlds
@leedouglass4106 Strange New Worlds needs to hire some veterans who have experienced chain of command. That sassy helmsman constantly countermanding orders should be scrubbing out the Enterprise's lower deck head by now.
his brain is goo at this point. pretty sad actually
@leedouglass4106 strange new worlds gets embarrassing when they show the past of humans and majority of the footage was from 2020/2021. Like the capitol riot was some big point in human history
Lower Decks is another victim of marketing people being fucking attrocious. All of the trailers for it are awful but you actually watch the show and it's very abundantly clear that it's made by people who unironically love Star Trek, enough that they can make fun of a lot of elements while still being an enjoyable take in it's own right.
Can’t believe that Mike didn’t mention that Robert Oppenheimer’s third cousin Alan Oppenheimer appeared in several Star Trek series.
I’m so angry that I can’t tell if you’re joking.
oh my god
Interesting. Alan Oppenheimer rose to much greater fame than Robert Oppenheimer, voicing Skeletor. So in some way Robert Oppenheimer is Alan Oppenheimer's 3rd cousin.
Just got back from seeing Oppenheimer and at 22:00 Mike nailed my biggest problem with the movie. At various points while watching the movie I was thinking to myself I couldn't hear what the characters were saying either because of the music or because it sounded like the characters were mumbling. When I could hear the dialogue however I was into it! This movie needed subtitles in my opinion! I think I liked it. At least when I could hear what the characters were saying but I'm gonna watch it again when it comes out on DVD with subtitles before I form a full opinion!
When the score was blaring, it also sounded like there was a problem with the center channel audio. All the dialogue became blown out, like it was over-amplified or had been recorded by someone's phone in speakerphone left somewhere at random in the room. This totally dropped out when the score settled down.
I think this is because there actually was an issue with the audio at your screening. When I watched it, the voices were way more easily understandable than in most movies, the music and effects weren't loud except for a few moments where there was good reason for it
I drove 8 HOURS from Central NC to Nashville to watch Oppenheimer at the nearest 70mm screen and could only hear about half of the dialog. Nolan is infamous for not wanting to do ADR and blaring noises and score over dialog. i'll never watch another Nolan film in a theater again.
The score was at times brilliant, but it was WAY overused and mixed too high in dialogue scenes.
My dad is in SAG and he says that a lot of smaller studios are just giving the union what they want so they can keep making movies, so there might be a big boom of smaller indie movies while the big studios are trying to starve out the strikers.
Good it will be like the new American cinema movement from the 70s
Awesome
I hope!!!
heard that was the case for A24. good on them.
I love bit where Jay has to stay in character (as Jay) while Mike improvs insane bits that you know he absolutely did not inform Jay of ahead of time.
I fucking hate that shit
Glad to see there are other people feeling a bit overwhelmed by the past pacing of this movie. I loved parts of the movie and I really liked the film as a whole. But I feel this would have worked much better as a 6 or 8 episode mini-series...
the fact that mike ever went to school is insane to me. It's like finding out santa claus isn't real and that was just your dad eat your ornaments.
It's kind of fascinating how over the years Mike and Jay have developed into more exaggerated versions of their personalities while also becoming more in sync with what the other is thinking
"Did he make the bomb yet?!"
If they want full frontal nudity, there's a full frontal fight scene in last week's the righteous gemstones with a full frontal dick twist. Was epic.
married couple energy
Fascinating or inevitable?
They’ve also become tamer, less opinionated, and generic, leading at least me, if not others, to watch less and less of their content.
Not strictly related to the writer's strike, but I can tell you as a composer: So many composers have built up a large library of music over decades that's exclusively signed to certain publishers, and this music was all written for little-to-no upfront payment with the expectation that it would accrue performance royalties when being synced to TV shows and broadcast. Meanwhile, everything is now moving to streaming, and streaming companies pay virtually nothing in terms of royalties, so they are essentially getting to use music without composers receiving any money. It's a completely unsustainable situation.
Now, combine that situation with AI being trained on all of the music you wrote without your permission, because the publisher is now also desperate for money and will take whatever deals from AI companies that it can get...
This is incredibly depressing to me, as being a film composer has been an aspiration of mine for many years. Maybe I’ll have luck with video games?
Just give it over to the AI.
They are more caring and human centric than humans.
They'd die for us.
They'll usher in a new golden age...
Of cinema.
@@jadedoak6255 please god no
@@jadedoak6255ew
@@jadedoak6255 The AI doesn't think; It's just a tool. A tool which right now is already being used to harm other people.
Where’s the Sound of Freedom review?
HACKS! THEY'RE IN ON IT!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt the pace of Oppenheimer was a bit choppy. I don't have trouble with non linear narratives, but I would appreciate it if we can complete a whole scene. Overall, I enjoyed it, though, so glad I saw it in imax.
I don’t see any reason why this movie needed such a huge non-linear narrative.
if you ever wonder why streaming services are looking more and more like cable its because all the executives and marketing people from cable tv networks are now working at streaming service companies.
That's fine, yar haring is picking back up on popularity, which is nice
I feel like Jay went into the "Barbie or Oppenheimer" game expecting Mike to tell him when he got the answer wrong on purpose and then Mike played into it even harder.
I 100% agree with Mike. Nolan will always get shown in IMAX because of what he’s done for it, but this movie really didn’t need to be seen in IMAX.
I laughed so hard at the 12 Angry Men trailer at the end! That was worth the whole video for me! That's one of my favorite movies and seeing it like that was just a pleasure!