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  • čas přidán 28. 12. 2023
  • Among the early five stars, Himeko stood out for being noticeably worse in value to many players, and with her Erudition path doing no favors, for today's episode of Why NO ONE Plays for Honkai: Star Rail, we're gonna be discussing Himeko, and how she potentially might become more valuable with the new Pure Fiction game mode.
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Komentáře • 838

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 Před 6 měsíci +1297

    Himeko: Casually drops an airstrike
    The Ice Bug with 1% HP: My time has come

    • @moonawilks8240
      @moonawilks8240 Před 6 měsíci +25

      Lmao

    • @rdxzero
      @rdxzero Před 6 měsíci +2

      what's the ice bug?

    • @danielferrieri7434
      @danielferrieri7434 Před 6 měsíci +9

      @rdxzero The little winged ice creatures from Jarilo-VI. I don't know their names. (Or any of the enemies names).

    • @rdxzero
      @rdxzero Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@danielferrieri7434 oh ok. i get the joke now.

    • @nchtblut
      @nchtblut Před 5 měsíci +1

      xd

  • @ikmaldaniel5324
    @ikmaldaniel5324 Před 5 měsíci +543

    Well good news guys, Herta and Himeko are insane in Pure Fiction.

    • @guardiansoulblade2673
      @guardiansoulblade2673 Před 5 měsíci +16

      I just got her out of standard banner just doing some random 10-pulls, I'm probably gonna be fine for Pure Fiction when I get there.

    • @peoplepleaser.
      @peoplepleaser. Před 4 měsíci +1

      YES I always do the Himeko Herta duo in that, it's soooo good

    • @yourlocalyanfei
      @yourlocalyanfei Před měsícem

      Hertako meta is back baby!!!

  • @voraa_dreamzZz
    @voraa_dreamzZz Před 6 měsíci +588

    I main Himeko and I love playing her. Sometimes a few battles it gets hard when she can't weakness break etc. but her dmg is honestly decent when you build her with the grand duke build. Everyone just remember to play whats most fun for you, meta or not ^^

    • @PrismPupsickle
      @PrismPupsickle Před 6 měsíci +40

      We stan himeko here, I actually also built my himeko but with the fire set and I pulled topaz specifically for himeko (And a future jingyuan) although I was thinking about farming grand Duke for both himeko and topaz once Kafka gets home

    • @railgum7392
      @railgum7392 Před 6 měsíci +8

      sadly no himeko yet, already got every standart banner and their lc, except himeko and bronya. my 300 selector is near but i will not get himeko sadly if i dont got bronya before that.

    • @saptashwapaul5583
      @saptashwapaul5583 Před 6 měsíci +6

      i was wondering if you could share her build and team you use for it? I have a e1 himkeo and as a f2p it feels very wasteful not to build an e1 5 star unit.

    • @voraa_dreamzZz
      @voraa_dreamzZz Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@saptashwapaul5583 4pc grand duke with (ideally) jing yuans light cone. I have E1 too so you dont need Speed on bots, Crit Body and focus on Crit substats, atk % & spd. I use space sealing station on her aswell. For team comps she is (imo) very good with Asta who has her signature 4star light cone. A buffer and a support to keep you alive are also very good for himeko ^^
      Usually you want to use her when you can weakness break/against many targets. If both scenarios apply its even better ^^
      Remember she is no Jingliu/Dan Heng IL so she wont do insane dmg even with E1
      Have fun! ^^

    • @Evie0133
      @Evie0133 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I don't main her but she's on my main team (Got her on my first beginner 10-pull, I was hyped as fricc and still super happy to have her), I love her a LOT :D

  • @FletchKey
    @FletchKey Před 6 měsíci +750

    I’m hoping Ruan Mei can truly bring Himeko into some sort of spotlight, her increased break effect synergies perfectly with Himeko’s talent, but Himeko just doesn’t deal enough damage because she is focused on AoE, here’s to hoping for a support which condenses damage into blast or single target 😁

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před 6 měsíci +71

      How do you save Himeko. It seems to me that her floor is kinda just too low. Her kit looks fine, her numbers I am not too sure about. I mean, let's say you make a support that buffs more AoE, does Himeko benefit from that more than Argenti for example idk.

    • @jayhawker8200
      @jayhawker8200 Před 6 měsíci +20

      Himeko should do fine in a sort of premium team of topaz, asta with the lightcone to increase same type damage, himeko, and ruan mei

    • @FletchKey
      @FletchKey Před 6 měsíci +79

      Unfortunately, anything characters that buff Himeko will buff others more, if you buff AoE, it buffs Argenti More, Buffing Follow up attack damage, it buffs Topaz and Ratio more, Buffing Fire Dmg, it buffs Topaz more, Buffing Burn or making a character that can increase effect hit rate, it buffs Guinaifen, Kafka, Luka and Sampo way more than Himeko, It just seems like she has no place in this game, her kit is spread too thin

    • @snakecake-mw7vw
      @snakecake-mw7vw Před 6 měsíci +18

      ​@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks, you buff Himeko by doing something about that Weakness mechanic. Add a character that makes all attacks deplete Weakness gauge despite not being the correct type. That will make Himeko gain some uses.

    • @LadyHermes
      @LadyHermes Před 6 měsíci +38

      @@snakecake-mw7vw Xueyi does that with her ult and follow up attack too with eidolons.
      SW can also add a weakness to enemies.

  • @ossunnix
    @ossunnix Před 5 měsíci +620

    This video did not age well...

    • @ossunnix
      @ossunnix Před 5 měsíci +47

      I mean this as a joke. Don't get your panties in a wad, please!

    • @taikobo6943
      @taikobo6943 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Came here to say this

    • @DurableRumble95
      @DurableRumble95 Před 5 měsíci +40

      I mean he did talk about pure fiction....

    • @ossunnix
      @ossunnix Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@DurableRumble95 Ok blud

    • @peterjutsu
      @peterjutsu Před 5 měsíci +5

      u just be saying anything lmao

  • @locallysourcedgrains
    @locallysourcedgrains Před 6 měsíci +313

    as someone who plays genshin, hsr and hi3rd, I can confidently say that hi3rd has insane powercreep. occasionally a unit will stay relevant for a long time (herrscher of sentience for example) but older units are practically useless in new competitive content. it’s hard to keep up but they do give decent rewards and free units quite often.

    • @Truck-kun11
      @Truck-kun11 Před 6 měsíci +68

      If it's like this in Honkai Impact, I worry about what it will be like in HSR. Turn-Based Combat Games are notorious for constant powercreep which causes more difficult content to be balanced accordingly and as a consequence older characters become less and less relevant

    • @ninetailsk1210
      @ninetailsk1210 Před 6 měsíci +29

      Literally HoFi lmao. She was fine by herself when she released, but now she cannot function in the meta without the herrscher trio team with the expensive gear

    • @AI7428
      @AI7428 Před 6 měsíci +7

      It's usually DPS powercreep (unfortunately), but I'm glad that most support is accessible via the shop (so support powercreep is not nearly as bad).

    • @justkookl5651
      @justkookl5651 Před 6 měsíci +62

      ​@@Truck-kun11This is a non concern for hsr and genshin. Hi3rd is stands out like this because end game is competitive pvp where you are directly fighting for scores against other players.

    • @ArgoBargo
      @ArgoBargo Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Truck-kun11 so far they haven’t power crept in all of 1.0 so I think that’s a good sign?

  • @EggmanArmy
    @EggmanArmy Před 6 měsíci +46

    If you have Himeko, remember to bring her to any IPC Senior Staff Team Leader fight. The guy loves spending turns summoning more grunts for Himeko and Pela to weakness break, which gives them free marks for more damage and just makes the fight overall easier. This is currently the only fight I find Himeko to be the most ideal pick for, assuming equal investment amongst units. Hopefully Pure Fiction gives her another avenue to be viable in.

  • @BeefyWaffles
    @BeefyWaffles Před 6 měsíci +56

    3:20 lmao bronya tried to shoot the skill capsule and ended up shooting the enemy

    • @ashik_fahmin
      @ashik_fahmin Před 6 měsíci +9

      Been there too, my friend. It's kinda funny and frustrating. 😂😂😂

  • @DianeTheDeadly
    @DianeTheDeadly Před 6 měsíci +79

    I've been a Himeko stan since day 1 and always tried making her work and so far the new Erudition path in Sim Universe has been insanely good with her to the point I think she's pretty much top tier in Simu world rn so I'm hoping Pure Fiction will give her her long awaited spotlight

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong Před 6 měsíci +10

      agree. my half baked himeko deal 1m damage its insane. Love it when you can spam her ult multiple times in a single turn too

    • @justlol2305
      @justlol2305 Před 2 měsíci

      Lol.
      Lmao, even.

  • @sfjuhispst8144
    @sfjuhispst8144 Před 5 měsíci +25

    Thid video: a glass of milk left on the table
    Pure fiction: a warm room, just perfect to spoil milk in
    Now, it should be recoqnised that this is 90% on purpose. The title and the timing are perfect for ragebaiting. If that wasn't the case, Vars here could have waited less than two weeks to see how PF changed the situation before releasing a more up-to-date assesment. This video is a smart, although somewhat distasteful move from him.

    • @TheAnaz41745
      @TheAnaz41745 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Yeah, the guy knows posting this video like this will give him double the engagement because of Pure Fiction release.
      It's the CZcamsr strat, even if they have to use dirty tactic and passive aggressiveness

  • @KyuubiDragon4
    @KyuubiDragon4 Před 6 měsíci +90

    I would argue that Himeko became at least a little bit more viable when the IPC enemies dropped. They're all weak to fire, and the big robot manager dude in particular is constantly summoning in more to fill the enemy party gaps, meaning that Himeko is constantly being supplied with mooks to proc her LC buff and victory rush follow-up off of. Admittedly they're not so plentiful outside of the short story moment where they're the main antagonistic faction, but they do still appear and Himeko is probably one of the best units for dealing with them... though admittedly this is just theory crafting because so far the game hasn't deigned to give me a Himeko to play with - it seems to think I need her LC and an E3 Welt more.
    Also, another cool thing about 1.6 is that it's added the Erudition path and blessings to Simulated Universe, which should act as incentive to use Himeko and other erudition units in the mode.

    • @leukos22
      @leukos22 Před 6 měsíci +9

      She's the MVP against those. Guinaifen and Hook can't deal anywhere near as much AoE Fire damage as Himeko does.

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 Před 6 měsíci +12

      ​@@leukos22Can vouch, I struggled with those so much. I'm so happy I have Himeko finally from the standard gift.

    • @pessoaaleatoria7302
      @pessoaaleatoria7302 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes, ur light. This one get melted by her XD. The fact that she gets 3 stacks from breaking bosses is very good, when there's 2 bosses it can do some crazy combos

    • @insertnamehere1398
      @insertnamehere1398 Před 6 měsíci +4

      himeko was skyrocketed further with topaz. in a dual dps team they work so much better then either of them in hyper carry

    • @KyuubiDragon4
      @KyuubiDragon4 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@insertnamehere1398 Unfortunately my attempts to get Topaz ended in an E1 Gepard instead, so I'm going to have to wait for her rerun to try again. But I finally got ahold of Bronya after losing my Ruan Mei 50/50, and I'm only 10 pulls away from the standard banner selector so once I have that I'll be grabbing Himeko as well.

  • @triplecatnip7413
    @triplecatnip7413 Před 6 měsíci +184

    Himeko is fine unit, she can do decent damage, especially against groups or fire weak enemies. She also has potential to get stronger with future supports. And she's fun to play.
    Yanqing on the other hand? He's much worse. Himeko didn't deserves the title of worst 5*

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong Před 6 měsíci +20

      yeah shes real fun. been enjoying playing her on SU. she deal 1m damage on erudition path. yanqing? cant even be used anywhere lol

    • @scylla1772
      @scylla1772 Před 6 měsíci +56

      Yanqing's only (yet massive) flaw is how easy it is to turn off his passive. Once you have a good shield, he does bonkers damage. Himeko, meanwhile, has a bunch of smaller issues that stack up. It's an apples to oranges situation 🤷

    • @silverseedva
      @silverseedva Před 6 měsíci +21

      Yanqing is the definition of walking the fine line because of how premium he is since you kinda NEED Gepard to make him work… hopefully he’ll get better when we get more shield characters because I still find it crazy that we only have four Preservation units in the game and one (Fu Xuan) can’t even create shields

    • @raffphytaffy385
      @raffphytaffy385 Před 6 měsíci +4

      You //need// Gepard to make him work? Before Gepard I had March 7th and he made that work just fine too

    • @someguy1ification
      @someguy1ification Před 6 měsíci +28

      ​@@raffphytaffy385March's shield is weird in that setup cuz it also increases his aggro

  • @chadachi3970
    @chadachi3970 Před 5 měsíci +42

    Time to make the switch up with "Why EVERYONE plays Himiko" now that Pure Fiction dropped lol

  • @crocworks
    @crocworks Před 6 měsíci +53

    Would love to see a video on Qingque (fittingly another Erudition). Originally, it seemed like everyone thought she was garbage because of her rng kit, but recently she's been considered one of the best 4star dps thanks to her Blast damage and the ability to play around her rng.

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee Před 6 měsíci +13

      her eidolons make her super op

    • @OdysseyNaafiri
      @OdysseyNaafiri Před 6 měsíci +1

      Eidolons​@@Fr00stee

    • @alecxander9573
      @alecxander9573 Před 6 měsíci +8

      really? she was considered weak? I thought she was one of those 5* in disguise (like Tingyun).

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@OdysseyNaafiri ur right played too much genshin lately lol

    • @samkelly5045
      @samkelly5045 Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@alecxander9573People thought her RNG aspect would make her bad, people like consistency when it comes to damage dealing, so when the game was released and Qingque was able to be used people thought her playstyle was too inconsistent and skill point heavy.
      But then when people started to get to late game and more characters were experimented on and released, people realised that Qingque was actually pretty insane and had very big damage numbers, especially at E4 where she got even more cracked, people simply judged her too early and didn’t bother to invest into her at the beginning, which happens to a lot of characters.

  • @weefywoo
    @weefywoo Před 4 měsíci +12

    Why No One Plays Himeko: Pure Fiction just didn't come out yet-

  • @4_rol4
    @4_rol4 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Well, well, well. How the tables have turned

  • @adumbchicken8022
    @adumbchicken8022 Před 5 měsíci +36

    man this came out at the worst time huh

  • @meuhoui1816
    @meuhoui1816 Před 5 měsíci +24

    Next vidéo: Why everyone play himeko.
    Pure fictions is so fun

  • @CommanderFoxy
    @CommanderFoxy Před 6 měsíci +14

    honestly she is still one of the best characters for calyx farming

    • @Kilesfactor
      @Kilesfactor Před 6 měsíci +2

      Her with Herta is too funny, game just plays itself after you get enough chain breaks :3

    • @Kilesfactor
      @Kilesfactor Před 6 měsíci

      @@XochiMictlan oh shit, it actually does 🙃

    • @DG_Toti
      @DG_Toti Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@XochiMictlanimagine autoplaying without autoplay

  • @user-ex4lb5to8h
    @user-ex4lb5to8h Před 6 měsíci +20

    I've an E3 Himeko (+ her signature lightcone) and I play her with my E6 Asta. Let's just say...not a lot of enemies can survive these two. 😊

  • @keneunaegbu851
    @keneunaegbu851 Před 6 měsíci +18

    All depends on your account. With Ruan Mei or Asta and Topaz, she feels very good to play.

    • @lenasprototrap7281
      @lenasprototrap7281 Před 6 měsíci +1

      indeed esp. when you break enemies, 2 follow-ups in a row maybe u can do better, it's really fun.

    • @wavee5676
      @wavee5676 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It’s like everyone has everyone and i dont when i want to play my fav characters

  • @marquoío
    @marquoío Před 6 měsíci +23

    Himeko could become better in 1.6, as she focuses or breaking weaknesses for her follow-up attacks, and considering that’s what Ruan Mei buffs, she should be pretty good. And we also have the AoE focused endgame coming out as well, so she could be good there too.
    Yes, I am on copium.

    • @ShinHakumen
      @ShinHakumen Před 6 měsíci +14

      Unfortunately, Ruan Mei is kinda anti synergistic with her due to prolonging break state. Himeko wants to break as often as possible to use her follow ups, but Ruan Mei doesn't exactly facilitate her type of mechanic.

    • @thepotato1226
      @thepotato1226 Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@ShinHakumenruan mei's delay is small compared to her massive weakness break efficiency, she's still better to use than anyone else

    • @spacenumber1149
      @spacenumber1149 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ShinHakumen yes and no
      I think the Pros outweight the cons
      yes she a bit anti synergistic with Himeko but not that much because she doesn't only relies FUA alone and Himeko like to pair with another DPS that make the different (Himeko, Topaz, Ruan mei, sustain unit)
      and due to how fast I can break enemy with Ruan mei's buff I think It worth it
      I will do anything to buff my beloved Himeko

    • @anristellariza9036
      @anristellariza9036 Před 6 měsíci +1

      don't worry its pretty good.
      Ruan Mei shines pretty well on Double DPS compositions, a comp that Himeko really likes cause of her lacking ST.

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong Před 6 měsíci +2

      people worry too much about prolonged weakness break. Its really miniscule imo. Most of the time the enemy still gonna get their turn shortly after.

  • @TKWLPR
    @TKWLPR Před 6 měsíci +75

    I’m a Himeko main in Star Rail. She’s my favorite character overall my best Fire DPS

    • @tylorhobbs8920
      @tylorhobbs8920 Před 6 měsíci

      Mildly envious. Only 15 more pulls until she's mine.

    • @mysteriousdora6914
      @mysteriousdora6914 Před 6 měsíci +1

      not much fire dpss anyway

    • @Xenoray1
      @Xenoray1 Před 6 měsíci

      topaz: heh

    • @uyeah1234
      @uyeah1234 Před 6 měsíci

      There are like 2 fire dps. Not a high bar to clear.

    • @TKWLPR
      @TKWLPR Před 6 měsíci

      But I don’t have Topaz

  • @westarrr
    @westarrr Před 5 měsíci +9

    Well didn't this video just get dated real fast with the release of Pure Fiction

  • @Marvik203
    @Marvik203 Před 5 měsíci +10

    damn u brought your curse from league to star rail bro😂

  • @wongo6828
    @wongo6828 Před 6 měsíci +65

    I expected this kind of video because I remember the early days when Himeko was labeled as the “worst 5 star in the game”. She's come a long way since then with her being a support for Topaz in follow-up attacks, the Grand Duke set, and Ruan Mei's potential in a “Break Effect Himeko” build. Himeko may not be shining but she's keeps improving bit by bit and this is coming from someone who mains her since Day 1.

    • @x1UnnameD1x
      @x1UnnameD1x Před 6 měsíci +5

      I am Himeko main since day 1, was rerolling account to get Himeko from beginner banner, got a jingyuan cone for her and built 70/230 crit 3300 atk, with every day she becomes less competitive to other characters and there are no such type of buffs exist that could give her more than to anyone else. Forever benching her, until you somehow can enjoy playing against very weak content, clearing hard with others, is inevitable, because she is only good against fire weak groups of enemies whose random appearing has almost 0 probability until content was specifically created with her in mind, and even in this case she will be worse than others. There will be new iteration of Himeko as another character with same identity that will not be standard and weak, so it is time to forget about this particular.

    • @zeer7676
      @zeer7676 Před 6 měsíci

      @@x1UnnameD1x yep, once a better himkek comes, the little reasons left to use her would be mostly gone. The people who use her at that point, like struggling or hardcore simping her.

  • @DreWulff
    @DreWulff Před 4 měsíci +2

    I haven't stopped using Himeko even after getting characters like Kafka or Argenti, mainly because I love that her playstyle is one which rewards careful planning. If paired with characters like Silver Wolf or Xueyi, the toughness break becomes pretty consistent, and the fights become a constant evaluation of how many charges you can get for her talent, sometimes even rewarding you for letting an enemy regenerate its toughness for extra damage with the talent.
    Of course, she isn't the strongest, but her playstile is one that is very interesting and fun, and is still viable once you build her and a team that allows her to shine.

  • @stevenzhao1561
    @stevenzhao1561 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Maybe an update video with the release of pure fiction?

  • @ChenAnPin
    @ChenAnPin Před 6 měsíci +38

    Her usability (or lack of) is circumstantial since a lot of the more recent enemies don't have Fire weakness that Himeko can break on her own such as the annoying Swarm Stings. Here's hoping she does get a second wind and renewed purpose.
    Also I find that Himeko works well against the enemy boss "Senior Staff - Team Leader" since it has Fire weakness and also summons Grunts that also have Fire weakness, giving Himeko plenty of opportunities to proc her follow-up attacks and Ult on them.

    • @revanninja
      @revanninja Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yeah Himeko really shines with enemies that spawn new enemies so long as they are fire weak.
      That said I think when Penacony comes out we will see fire weak enemies that spawn as Himeko is suppose to be with us story wise. So I think with Ver 2.0 they are going to giuve us enemies more suited to Himeko or give her some minor number tweaks

    • @ChenAnPin
      @ChenAnPin Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@revanninja pass that copium
      but yeah, that mostly depends though if we get more characters that just so happen to be suited for countering any new enemy types with Fire weakness, similar to how QIngque got a new lease on life with mono-Quantum and Fuxuan

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse Před 6 měsíci

      Ruan Mei is a really good support unit for her, so as soon as there's a mode with groups of enemies that are weak to Fire she'll be super valuable. She has a lot of potential as a unit, and really good synergy with the Ashblazing set where her followup attack instantly stacks it to 48% ATK bonus.

    • @zeer7676
      @zeer7676 Před 6 měsíci

      @@revanninja what makes a unit good is that they can be used against enemies that don't have their weakness, not himeko. I doubt even the new event will help her, she will get over shadowed by the likes of jing yuan and argenti

    • @revanninja
      @revanninja Před 6 měsíci

      @@zeer7676 No that isnt correct as most units only really work when they are facing their element weakness as there is actual damage number changes when faced with enemies that are their element weakness.
      Jing Yuan and Argenti are lightning and Physical they also work on completely different mechanics then Himeko. Jing Yuan for example is better compared to Topaz due to their companion turn mechanic then Jing Yuan to Himeko. They are VERY different builds and focuses. Same goes for Argenti who has a double ultimate mechanic.
      The issue Himeko has is one most of Erudition has which its great against large number of enemies but drops off as the enemies drop. Himeko against enemies that spawn like the IPC or the Deer War boss is actually fairly strong.
      What Himeko needs is a minor tweak and one I saw someone mention I actually agree with is her Follow up attack just needs to be charged each one of her turns. Doing that will allow her Follow up to proc more and change her Damage values without too much issue.

  • @Cinnamowo
    @Cinnamowo Před 6 měsíci +10

    When I saw Erudition path in SU I screamed. I started finally building my E1 Himeko from level 50 to 70 and leveled up those fire relics that I misfortunately got (thanks for making a better set for her AFTER I got all four pieces with double crit, it was so nice of you)... And then Jingliu was still a better Erudition path unit and the path itself is just a "Make your dps Ult into Argenti"s"

    • @anristellariza9036
      @anristellariza9036 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Try Erudition Elation. My Himeko routinely 0 cycles the final boss just mashing ult. Staying at level 70 really isn't good for DPS characters, as the game implements level gap scaling.

  • @Truck-kun11
    @Truck-kun11 Před 6 měsíci +119

    If HSR intends to directly buff older characters in the future, I hope they lower the requirement for her follow up attack to 1 break instead of 3, and increase the damage multiplier

    • @greenapple5005
      @greenapple5005 Před 6 měsíci +55

      I feel that it is fine to stay on 3, or if they are to buff it, 2 is enough.

    • @appleaj7381
      @appleaj7381 Před 6 měsíci +7

      they CANT thats illegal (companies cant change gacha characters after release)

    • @akmalrafiaa4772
      @akmalrafiaa4772 Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@appleaj7381 they could add a new gameplay mechanic like the module system in arknights

    • @zeri7835
      @zeri7835 Před 6 měsíci +49

      @@appleaj7381 Pretty sure they can...

    • @cherno8336
      @cherno8336 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@appleaj7381they can

  • @Melphyies
    @Melphyies Před 6 měsíci +6

    I honestly love playing Himeko. I use her every time there's a fire weak stage in MoC because it feels like her gameplay is like a puzzle with the break mechanic

  • @goodpuppii
    @goodpuppii Před 6 měsíci

    It’s great to see some love for Himeko. Great video. I really started enjoying her in Swam Disaster once I had Topaz & Numby. Now, with the path of Erudition in the Sim. U., she is so much fun (with the right combo of blessings).

  • @zyzhang1130
    @zyzhang1130 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I’m glad this video didn’t age well (not hating on VARS, just a simple HI3 Himiko enjoyer)

  • @onidan7
    @onidan7 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love how Pure Fiction made characters like Himeko, Serval and Herta go from bottom tier to must build for the game mode. Hopefully, HSR keeps making new game modes that retroactively buff characters like Arlan, Sushang and Yanqing too

  • @ishanpatel2373
    @ishanpatel2373 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I really want you to make a follow up video for pure fiction just for fun

  • @Trash-bd1cb
    @Trash-bd1cb Před 5 měsíci +9

    ah the irony

  • @Evie0133
    @Evie0133 Před 6 měsíci +2

    As a huge fan of Himeko, I'm super happy to see 1.6 introduce more content geared towards Himeko and other Erudition units, it's a welcome sight! Hope more content like this comes out :D

  • @No-Ink
    @No-Ink Před 6 měsíci +8

    I think if they made character who could make break bars replenish immediately after breaking them but made the bar easier to break would make Himiko a very desired character because she would work so well with that.

    • @Lewd_Idol_Waifu
      @Lewd_Idol_Waifu Před 6 měsíci

      I wish Ruan Mei's debuff did that. The synergy would have been really strong, since as of now they have a bit of anti-synergy.

    • @shinidragon7775
      @shinidragon7775 Před 5 měsíci

      That's what the Harmony version of the Trailblazer was leaked to do. Not exactly like that but very similar. It was a long time ago though so it might be different now

  • @Masfugo
    @Masfugo Před 5 měsíci +10

    9 days old and this video already outdated

  • @SeenE-kg9nj
    @SeenE-kg9nj Před 6 měsíci +11

    If I had her, I'd play her all the time against Fire chambers. Especially now with Ruan Mei

  • @AI7428
    @AI7428 Před 6 měsíci +20

    Personally, like you said, she is the embodiment of Erudition. However, BECAUSE of that, she suffer because early Erudition isn't that good.
    New Erudition like Argenti combines elements of Hunt (a better path), sparing them of that.

    • @madmaxim3965
      @madmaxim3965 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Please explain to me what aspect of argenti utilities the hunt path
      His kit is literally just the more foes he hits the more he gets back be that stacks , or energy from his ultimate and plus him having 2 lvls to his ultimate as well
      I could maybe see destruction but hunt? No way

    • @AI7428
      @AI7428 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @madmaxim3965 For his Level 2 Ultimate, he then proceeded to distribute massive amounts of damage in the form of multiple Single-target attacks.

    • @madmaxim3965
      @madmaxim3965 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@AI7428 multiple single enemy attacks at the same time you mean an AOE attack?! That's like saying single damage attacks are just partial erudition moves

    • @AI7428
      @AI7428 Před 5 měsíci

      @@madmaxim3965 At the same time? It should be one at a time.

  • @stellarchaos
    @stellarchaos Před 6 měsíci +2

    I have an E1 Himeko, I would LOVE for her to be good and for me to have an excuse to build her. She had an event mission a while back where you could use her and Herta to do wave clears and it was a lot of fun. Hopefully the new mode has the same feeling as the event one.

  • @pingu_diabo
    @pingu_diabo Před 5 měsíci +7

    Vars i love you but this video aged in less than a month😭

  • @Mikiiiiiiiiiip
    @Mikiiiiiiiiiip Před 5 měsíci +8

    well with pure fiction out now everyone plays her 😂

  • @Catspirit123
    @Catspirit123 Před 6 měsíci +2

    With Ruan Mei’s release I’ve been having fun running himeko with Topaz. The breaking is fantastic

  • @justlivinglife6315
    @justlivinglife6315 Před 5 měsíci +16

    this video did not age well 😂

    • @franciscocristobal3095
      @franciscocristobal3095 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Well someone didnt pay attention in the video. She still sucks. Only being good on pure fiction as mentioned after 11:22.

    • @xaq039
      @xaq039 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@franciscocristobal3095 This proves that some ppl did not watch the whole video 😝

    • @tagihanbill494
      @tagihanbill494 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@franciscocristobal3095 Yes, she is a niche pick in MoC (Prefer fire weak content). At least she is godly in PF and performs very well in SU. She is faaaaar from suck, my dude.

    • @Keroltor
      @Keroltor Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@franciscocristobal3095 Being good in PF is as relevent as being good in MoC, it's end game content with high rewards, so if she's good in PF, she's just good.

    • @BacSiVoDanh
      @BacSiVoDanh Před 5 měsíci

      Now, why everyone plays Himeko (in Pure Fiction) 😂

  • @noevivar2863
    @noevivar2863 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Can you imagine a character who creates totems or something on the enemies side that are easily destroyed? Maybe they create debuff or something when broken? Himeko could be interesting and all erudition in general. Idk if it would work but just an interesting idea I think :3

  • @RaffoPhantom
    @RaffoPhantom Před 6 měsíci +3

    I mean theoretically you could also make her viable by introducing harmony/nihility characters that increase Break Efficiency on Hime-
    Wait is that Ruan Mei calling?
    Anyway, as I was saying: Or introduce a relic set that focuses on Break Efficiency so she can break elite enemies in like 3 hits.

  • @doffysworld3788
    @doffysworld3788 Před 6 měsíci

    Couldn't find a source for a better motivation than this
    [BTW got my first copy of Himeko] from permanent banner yesterday at 64 pity ,the timing couldn't be more perfect

  • @ArcitektKei
    @ArcitektKei Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I shall now build my himeko and use her

  • @rickypedia999
    @rickypedia999 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I make a point in these kinds of games of trying to use the plot-relevant characters whenever I can, even if they aren't "meta" at the time. Seeing as she's seemingly going to be heavily involved in Penacony, I've been trying to build her lately. Knowing that the new mode just added is one that actually favors her makes me VERY hopeful that they are planning to buff Erudition in general. It also helps that I already had Jing Yuan built and they can use pretty much the exact same equipment.

  • @Riwul
    @Riwul Před 6 měsíci +11

    I just got her a couple of weeks ago in a double pull with argenti (boy did i at first think i got e1 argenti) and i love her since HI3rd but its so sad that especially now with argenti on my roster i probably will never really get to use her alot since i dont have topaz either

  • @SheruMuko
    @SheruMuko Před 6 měsíci +1

    Casually sits back in their chair drinking coffee while launching a satellite cannon air strike and she still is looked down upon!

  • @_LiterallyMe_
    @_LiterallyMe_ Před 6 měsíci

    Havent seen 1 sec if this, keep up the good work, great vid😂o

  • @valerov837
    @valerov837 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I recently reached the 300 non promotional pulls, but i have only obtained 4 of the 7 five stars units (first one i got being Gepard, then Yanqin, then Welt, and finally Bailu which one refused to let me get another character so she gave me her Fisrt Eilodon). And for like two weeks i've been wondering who to choose between Himeko (cause i wanted a fire DPS since neither Topaz nor Guina came, and at leats Guina was an AOE DoT unit) and Bronya (cause her action advancing and critic DMG increment) or even waiting for both to come out eventually to get Bronyas first Eilodon, unfortunatelly Clara isn't an option now cause i got argenti to cover Physical DPS (and i´m free to play so what i got in my account it's thanks to my luck). But now knowing that the principal mechanic of the incoming gamemode it's ideal for her and Herta, i finally decided to bring first Himeko to complete astral Express members so i can buff her both with Hu Huo and Ruan Mei if i am lucky enought to get her.

  • @DanaOtken
    @DanaOtken Před 5 měsíci +1

    Been building Himeko for the past month, with recent detours to focus on Huohuo and continue with Fu Xuan. I favor heavy defense to start with and have no problems letting Erudition be my primary attack path. And since I got Welt Yang very early on, right before reaching the Luofu where it seemed thematically appropriate to be using him, and I then got Himeko right as the story's heading towards a spot where she seems to become similarly plot-relevant, it was an obvious choice even when I'm suddenly receiving more Fire characters who might be more immediately useful.

  • @minthantmaung8643
    @minthantmaung8643 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ironically i Iiterally just used her on new Gold and Gears stage in SU right before this video lol and she cleared it with ease with my ruan mei and the new erudition path, for me personally she's quite fun and her follow up attack is satisfying.

  • @shier_it4956
    @shier_it4956 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have her at E1 and even got her signature LC. I love using her in a dual DPS set up with Blade in Simulated Universe in Elation Path 😊

  • @bladearmorginga6582
    @bladearmorginga6582 Před 6 měsíci +5

    As someone who got so excited that their first 5 star was Himeko, I'm so ready for pure fiction.

  • @ruijeonen7264
    @ruijeonen7264 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Im extremely surprised to see the "why no one plays series" feature himeko waayy too early. She might not have been the best or considered as "meta" Character right now but she is currently my main fire dps and she carries me across game vs fire weak even if she isn't fully build yet.
    Though admittedly i knew one day, she will definitely fall off in the future due to how bad she scales with Eidolons vs new upcoming characters. 😢
    She is still queen of calyxes and perhaps a solid unit for pure fiction in the future.
    I was actually expecting (tho i really love these characters) Natasha or Yanqing be featured 1st.
    Keep this content coming!! Love this series!

  • @defiantmars9910
    @defiantmars9910 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I will say that I am hopeful for the future of Erudition units, based on the design for Argenti and Erudition path in the Simulated Universe. I think leaning into Ultimate damage in addition to AoE damage is a good choice. If I understood the Erudition Resonance correctly, it deals additional damage to the healthiest marked target, meaning units that hit AoE like Erudition characters can get a form of pseudo-damage consolidation or at least a damage amp against Elites.
    Hopefully more Erudition characters can make use of this kind of dynamic outside the SU and we get more supports that can enable them.

  • @Dragon_Song1
    @Dragon_Song1 Před 6 měsíci +5

    She doesn’t get very much stats from traces unlike other characters, this is somewhat made up for by her have the highest base attack in the game, meaning she scales well off of attack%.
    Her Element also complements her play style of breaking and clearing, (fire as a big break damage multiplier)
    So she does have stuff going for her. Not a lot though. 😂

  • @carljoseph6185
    @carljoseph6185 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I always have Himeko on my team when fighting enemies weak to fire and when the opponents keeps summoning minions.

  • @JosepiThe13th
    @JosepiThe13th Před 5 měsíci +3

    Inaccurate video. Himeko is super popular rn.

  • @S_Asteric
    @S_Asteric Před měsícem +2

    "Why nobody play Himeko"
    Yeah, about that uhhhh...
    *Slowly looking at Sunday's boss fight"

  • @MoonZapdos
    @MoonZapdos Před 5 měsíci +11

    Well, this video aged poorly

  • @SerothTalon
    @SerothTalon Před 5 měsíci +1

    Himeko's biggest value comes not from how hard she hits, but how frequently. Especially in modes like Swarm Disaster or Gold and Gears, you will frequently run into waves of at least 3 enemies and frequently 2 elites. If you pair her with units like Topaz, they loop off each other, causing a constant Barrage of follow-ups.
    I actually have been using a (mostly) mono-Fire team a lot in high end content lately that brought me a lot of success.
    Topaz
    Himeko
    Luocha
    Guinaifen
    Her Talent procs incredibly frequently. And that's at E0. Her E4 grants her an extra stack if she is the one who does the break. Meaning it only requires 2 trash mobs to proc her follow-up.
    The problem that the community is failing to grasp is that you shouldn't be looking at her in a vacuum. Players look for "Carry" units, who will do all the work themselves. So they pick one "Carry" and pump them up to do silly numbers with harmony buffers. You can't just slap a Bronya on her and call her a Carry. She doesn't work like that.
    Himeko works best as 1 of 4, not solo. You pair her with units that complement her playstyle. High break potential and/or frequent follow-ups. Units like Topaz, Jing Yuan, Ruan Mei, Clara. If you build your team to work WITH her rather than for her, she'll shine.

  • @quasarkwell4823
    @quasarkwell4823 Před 6 měsíci

    Recently, I've become interested in characters whose basic attacks have added effects (like Preservation Trailblazer), because you can get more out of using them to generate skill points. Currently, I think Himeko is the only character that can apply Burn with her basic attack, due to Starfire. Sampo also has this ability, but for Wind Shear. I'm interested to see if Himeko will make anything out of this in the future.

  • @vanica8679
    @vanica8679 Před 5 měsíci +2

    im new to this game and i luckily (?) got himeko 2 times in the beginner banner.. is it worth to play around her up until the end game?

  • @igorzharenikov1812
    @igorzharenikov1812 Před 5 měsíci +7

    This video couldn't be outdated any quicker

  • @HunteR3453
    @HunteR3453 Před 6 měsíci

    Videos like this make me feel Jet Li in the movie "The One" (2001)

  • @KhanhTran-xi8jh
    @KhanhTran-xi8jh Před 5 měsíci +12

    Well this aged well.

  • @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies
    @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies Před 6 měsíci +1

    Out of all possible days Vars could post this, it had to be on the same day I beat chapter 9 in HI3RD😭

  • @NintendoFlashShorts
    @NintendoFlashShorts Před 6 měsíci

    I was just thinking when we would get this video lmao

  • @theidpboi6205
    @theidpboi6205 Před 6 měsíci +1

    as someone who's first five star was himeko...this was kinda the final nail in the coffin. seeing this kinda...felt good, but also hurt lol

  • @TheBritishCigarette
    @TheBritishCigarette Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yu kong also increases imaginary damage for allies somewhere in her kit ( i forget where though🥴)

  • @lancerguy3667
    @lancerguy3667 Před 6 měsíci +1

    While I may not use her a lot, I will say that when she’s useful, she’s ‘really’ useful.
    I’ll often import her into SU runs where I get the curio that adds one party weakness to all enemies at battle start, since from that position she and Topaz can murder most waves between boss floors… especially the swarms that like to constants fill the screen.

  • @AshleyReinhardt
    @AshleyReinhardt Před 6 měsíci +1

    Who deals more dmg? lady with big satellite nuke cannon or a celestial jade player goblin?

  • @RevereShin
    @RevereShin Před 6 měsíci

    What a landmark HSR episode to drop at the tail end of 2023. See you in 2024!!

  • @pagholicky
    @pagholicky Před 6 měsíci +3

    vars : listing reasons why people don't play himeko
    me : i would have main himeko... if i have her

  • @wraithhe
    @wraithhe Před 5 měsíci +5

    Shes meta in pure fiction :)

  • @chillhour6155
    @chillhour6155 Před 6 měsíci

    She's was my last standard banner 5 star 300 wish pick, will build her as soon as Im done with Blade and Xuey

  • @shutup1037
    @shutup1037 Před 5 měsíci +15

    This age like milk

  • @Gachablazer
    @Gachablazer Před 5 měsíci +1

    And as of yesterday, with Pure Fiction finally available, Himeko is now meta :) Time to finally build her!

  • @Phantom-_-Crash
    @Phantom-_-Crash Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm hoping that we get a destruction or hunt path version of Himeko in the future. I mean, it's highly unlikely, but it is possible a dan heng situation could happen. I know it was 4* to 5*, but HI3 has different versions, and I think that we should have a sick dps version of her for the game :D. Alas, it's only a wish.

  • @monochromematrix464
    @monochromematrix464 Před 6 měsíci +20

    Himeko is always getting the short end of the stick. In HI3 she was killed by Fua Ha in the old Era, and then by Kiana in the New Era, which only happened cause Welt had to kill her father. Which is why he in Star Rail, to protect this universes version of himeko.

    • @vetreas366
      @vetreas366 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Kevin was the one who ended HIMEKO, not Fu Hua. At MEI's orders. It was the cause of quite a bit of friction.

    • @greygozhost
      @greygozhost Před 6 měsíci

      Old era and new era? Idk much about hi3 lore, sometimes I know old era is a forgotten civilization before the game started, but how does there's himeko in old era?

    • @passive7923
      @passive7923 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@greygozhost basically the world in Hi3 gets reset every time the honkai wins. In the Old Era, the herscher of end triumph so the Finality had to reset the whole world so the humanity can have the 2nd chance and this time some of the individuals in New Era have knowledge of the events in Old Era (Fu Hua, Kevin, Promotheus, and Otto.)

    • @passive7923
      @passive7923 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@greygozhost the story of HI3 gets complicated every time they add characters. That's why i dropped the game when the original Trio (Mei, Kiana, and Bronya) got a reunion.
      This time i play HSR out of curiosity because Kiana has sealed every honkai energy yet somehow Welt can still use his Herscherr power. And also because of Himeko.
      I am a huge stan of Himeko, i got every costume, battlesuits, and signature gears for each battlesuit of her.

    • @greygozhost
      @greygozhost Před 6 měsíci

      @@passive7923 I see

  • @Dzm12345
    @Dzm12345 Před 5 měsíci +2

    She's about to go crazy in Pure Fiction.

  • @desupair
    @desupair Před 6 měsíci

    I stopped playing this after a few months. Right after getting Blade. But I always wanted Himeko and her trailer is so soothing and serene. It's one of my favorites to rewatch.❤ This is from someone who has never got in to Honkai Impact. So without any bias or nostalgia, it was THAT good to make me like her.

  • @braddl9442
    @braddl9442 Před 6 měsíci

    I dunno, I use her a lot, her follow up attacks and giving her a Break Effect set of relics I clean up esp when she is paired with Kafka or Serval. And she works well with Nihility characters like sampo since she really does seem to apply fire damage really well. Those follow up attacks actually do a lot of damage over a long battle.

  • @tausifturja
    @tausifturja Před 5 měsíci +3

    Himeko in Pure Fiction is crazy.

  • @Fyreshield
    @Fyreshield Před 6 měsíci

    I use her when farming level up materials because her follow up attack can be really good against the enemies in that calyx

  • @Misspellednumbers
    @Misspellednumbers Před 6 měsíci

    Oh awesome. Just got Himeko after months of waiting, and equipped her lightcone that I own too, then you release this two days after? What awesome timing. :(

    • @zannax351
      @zannax351 Před 6 měsíci

      Just use her, a lot of the conclusions reached in this video are extremely sketchy and don't feel like theyve actually been backed up with experience. If you can read "recommended element: fire" on a stage, himeko will perform excellently as a carry, i assure you. I think dreamy/mrpokke overall paint a more accurate picture of himeko's capabilities

  • @Fr00stee
    @Fr00stee Před 6 měsíci +4

    ruan mei + the harmony tb leak will make himeko op because her kit strongly relies on triggering breaks and burning enemies. The constant toughness refresh from harmony tb and the extra long weakness broken state from ruan mei + the increased toughness dmg from both of these units will allow himeko to spam multiple follow up attacks after every single skill and ult much faster than she usually does, and the burn from breaking will increase her skill dmg by an extra 20%.

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong Před 6 měsíci

      harmony tb when?

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee Před 6 měsíci

      @@Bos_Meong penacony

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong Před 6 měsíci

      @@Fr00stee 2.1? he still isnt in beta

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee Před 6 měsíci

      @@Bos_Meong harmony tb kit got leaked a very long time ago

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong Před 6 měsíci

      @@Fr00stee im not asking that. i know his kit leak im asking when. hes not in 2.0 beta

  • @Steel12able
    @Steel12able Před 5 měsíci +30

    Didnt age well lmfao

  • @hqhuy931
    @hqhuy931 Před 6 měsíci

    i think the new patch with ruan mei weakness break and xueyi will make up for her limitations, but probably not enough to bring her to relevance since she is euridition. May be nice if they could buff that path since all of its characters - jing yuan, serval, argenti, himeko - are quite appealing albeit inefficient

  • @paulyu535
    @paulyu535 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ohohoho I have a feeling pure fiction is about to raise them Himeko stocks

  • @nincity4379
    @nincity4379 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Now we wait for the “what happened to himeko” once pure fiction is out lol

  • @mari_zz
    @mari_zz Před 6 měsíci

    Besides Asta, Yukong also buffs a specific DMG type (Imaginary) and soon Sparkle will be released, who so far has a Quantum DMG Bonus buff.

  • @jaguh9069
    @jaguh9069 Před 6 měsíci

    This cycle Moc11 2nd phase actually ideal to use her, elite that spawn mobs and the dear spawning trees.
    I'm eagerly waiting for pure fiction.😄