Revelations on Lenovo Legion Go from a Steam Deck & ROG Ally Owner
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0:00 Hardware/Specs
8:06 Software
13:30 Performance
16:23 Thoughts
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Wow, I've watched a lot of videos since getting my Go and this is the best! Lots of thoughtful stuff no one else even thinks of. Like re-thinking your grip vs. the Deck and the possibility of rounded controller options in future. Or the wheel locked fast scroll. Also gotta say your voice is incredibly listenable. Plus, instead of automatically skipping your Ugreen ad I actually enjoyed it. That's a first in known human history for me, lol. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Evil within 2 flickers too much doesnt launch in steam that blows! This thing is losing its value then
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On this system or steam deck?
@@lilstewy5091 ally and go
@@lilstewy5091 love deck oled and ally
People need to understand that the steam deck had the issues too during the first 3 months of is launched but after their updates everyone will consider the legion go
People also bashed the ally for sd card cooking and Amory crate. Now people can't live without the ease of armory crate. Just haters
Steam has good frequent support because it has only one device to manage. Lenovo back-end support and updates aren’t that frequent because they have a plethora of consumer / business products to support. You won’t get that much support from Lenovo. I would say if you want better support go for deck.
I just watched your most recent Rog Ally video yesterday. I was releaved to hear your opinion, mentioning your Ally's SD card has been stable since you sent it in, because I just sent my Ally in to have the SD Card fixed and was wondering a similar thing. This friday, I just purchased my Legion Go and was wondering when you were going to release a video on it, because in my opinion, you come with a balanced perspective on these handhelds, and I wanted to know what I was getting into before my unit arrived via mail.
I woke up this morning and was pleased to see this video released! Very refreshing. You made some great points on what should be Lenovo's next areas of focus when it comes to updates. Cant wait to see more from you as you get more familiar with the unit.
That is much appreciated my friend. Glad that you enjoyed! And enjoy your Legion Go!
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Not just another review! Very well articulated, all the points mentioned are relevant and note worthy. Very helpful for someone looking to purchase the Legion go like me. Honestly, I was looking at the Ally as my first PC handheld, but that screen on the Go has completely swayed me. Great review. I'm now a subscriber and can't wait to see more videos on the Go.
Appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed and welcome aboard!
I second this comment!!… I’m also new subscriber after starting to watch ur Go content and I’m looking forward to more
I think that this is easily one of the best reviews I've seen so far on the legion go, thank you
You’re my favorite tech reviewer on CZcams. You cover so many little details, your voice is incredibly soothing and you seem genuine in your reviews and ads. Keep it up man!
I'm not a full-pledged gamer, but I've been recently indulging myself in the world of handheld PC gaming consoles. From what I have seen so far, I am definitely allured with the Legion Go. The ROG Ally and OLED Steam Deck are also good, but I do have to choose the Go simply because the screen is fairly portable despite being a bit larger and the fact its controllers can be like joycons. That's so cool! 🔥
Great video! Subscribed to your channel due to it being one of the few that didn't show an outright bias to the Steam Deck just because. I plan on getting the Asus ROG Ally this week!
Fantastic review and quality of video, I even watched the sponsor advert for the Ugreen charger, your delivery is professional broadcast standard
Nice concise review! Basically all that needs to be said was said. Lenovo seems pretty committed and transparent about upcoming updates so that's a plus. I think fps mode is cool, but I actually think there is a lack of buttons... Games like fallout have a tough time assigning buttons correctly. One thing I'd love to see is custom game button profiles that automatically get applied when the game launches.
My big problem with Lenovo is their inability to continue to provide updates and optimizations for other devices in the past, anyone who has bought a Lenovo tablet knows what I mean, maybe they will be forced to do so with this device but thus far I'm happy with my Steam deck and the continued support and optimizations Valve provide.
Great and necessarily critical review BTW.
Until Valve drops the product. Steam Machines. Steam Controller etc.
@@beckinbinderin Considering all the progress they've made on the Deck so far since launch, I'm good
Yeah your comment didn't age well. Lenovo has been cranking out updates every week. Also, I have two Lenovo laptops, get plenty of updates with those too.
@@chrisjasper3289 That's because Steam Deck been out practically 2 years, I would hope they made progress in that much time. Steam Deck was a complete mess when it first launched
Agreed that's a caveat since we know the deck will be updated. Although it's more than likely the Legion Go will have a better software and even maybe Windows 12 (with hopefully a better tablet mode) support down the line, it's far from guaranteed.
Best go review so far, subscribed!
Thank you for the holding method. Really made a difference for me because i knew something was off with the discomfort.
I just bought a tufu case
I would be interested in seeing a comparison (joycons / controllers on and off the Lenovo) between the Lenovo Legion Go and an iPad Pro 11 inch. Yes, the Lenovo is a handheld gaming machine, but could it replace my iPad in uses like, emails, web-browsing, Clash of Clans, Photo and Video editing, Social Media browsing, and other uses that I have for my iPad Pro? This thought came to me when I saw you browsing the internet on the Lenovo without the controllers attached. My iPad Pro cost more than the Lenovo Legion Go, so could I swap them or am I too sold on IOS and the way my iPad just works? I’m certain the iPad’s battery life will smash the Lenovo.
Très bonne video, tu a parfaitement relevé les défauts de la legion go
Merci de France 🇨🇵
I think what pisses me off the most about the legion go is that when you start it up it essentially go to an add for games. When i open up the Ally it goes straight to my games.
Honestly, I gotta say, your sponsor / commercial piece of the whole video is actually the best out of all 🤣
What thumbgrips are you using here? are they the skull & co for xbox or steamdeck? Thanks!
I've had mine for 5 days now. I've been very impressed by the hardware. The software needs a lot of work. The only thing I use it for at the moment is to play with performance options in the quick settings, everything else is done through windows. I hope Lenovo will continue supporting their software and bring it up to par with the other handhelds.
Ya
Why did you not just buy a steam deck?
@@simonrockstream Because I wanted the bigger screen and detachable controllers. I wasn't looking for a gaming on the go type console. I travel a lot for work and I was looking for something easy to carry, powerful enough to play AAA games, and has some productivity functionality but isn't a gaming laptop. Something that I can just drop onto a hotel room desk or airplane tray and sit back comfortably with controllers in hand. Hardware wise, this is the perfect device for me, the software just needs time to bake but I am sure that it will catch up. All the other handhelds had software issues at launch as well so I'm not too worried.
@@bassdeff8819 same for me. I travel the world since 1 year and dont want to carry an extra laptop just to game on (already have my M1 MacbookPro to videoedit and work)... just having a little windows machine with me that is mostly for gaming is a very cool aspect (even if i would be very interested into the OLED Screen, since I am a OLED Fanboyyyy)
@@simonrockstreamwhy would you buy a steam deck? Other than it being cheaper, it also performs way less.
I love your review, just subbed. You do an amazing job and one aspect on your review that you do top notch is when discussing any particular issue, you seem to have done enough research to inform your audience of possible workarounds until Lenovo possibly looks to patch things up in the future. Looking forward to watching other content you posted and do post in the future!
Legion Go, is definitely going to be the handheld when all the updates get fixed for this babe...that 8.8 inch screen size is my ideal for handheld gaming. Anything bigger will be too much
Not really, they can clear out some more of that bezel
The legion go is too much for me. The Ally is where is at in my opinion.
@@Mr-jj3gpWith a failing micro SD slot. 😂
For me it’s just a little too big. But I guess it depends how you use it. I emulate and play indie games with my rog ally. And then dock it for fps games and triple A games.
@@thundergato84 I am not into emulation so why would I even use an sd card? If anything I’d rather upgrade the ssd. The sd card slot on the legion go and Ally are on the same spot, where the heat comes out so we will see if it becomes a problem with the legion go as well. Plus the fans are louder on the go compared to the Ally and the steam deck. No VRR. The go is too big and a little heavier so I’ll pass. I’m not hating on it, I think having the bigger screen is cool and immersive but for a handheld I prefer a smaller device with less weight as I already have a pc with a big monitor.
how is the rumble motor in the legion go?
i own a Rog ally and they feel and sound a bit wierd than what i am used to curious if its same like the legion go
I am looking for GPD win mini with better hand grips. Steam deck or Legion go + screen protecting case are too big to carry.
I was on the edge and I think I’ll just get a steam deck oled, I use my ps5 for main gaming and just really want something to play indies from steam and older games, cheaper and such
Just got mine, love it. Battery could be a lot better. But it’s got a fast charge time. All and all great experience. Can whip out gta on the train or at work etc. great feeling
Thanks for the video man!
For me, I’m a dad and so far only played on Xbox , I want to play MW3 (and maybe games like God of war, red dead redemption) but not use our TV so I can still sit with my wife and kid
So if I don’t bother much about playing on the go or playing certain other games, would you recommend the Lenovo or the Steam deck OLED for that purpose?
I just ordered the Steam deck 1TB OLED but after understanding that it might be an issue to play MW3 On the Steam deck due to anti cheat , I’m thinking about getting the Lenovo instead
Any input is highly appreciated
You can swap the menu / function keys in legion space, it is a toggle switch. FX Sound adds too much latency. You can just use the Realtek Audio Console and achieve the same volume with 0 latency and clearer sound while also saving the battery by not having FX sound processing auidio.
I just got one but my games are so laggy I have Spider-Man miles morales and it’s choppy do you have a video or teach me how to optimize it?
Great review. Great voice. Subscribed.
So do you have to download games to the device if I want to play ps5 games? And I have to be on WiFi? Like can I play this on the go?
these are interesting times, love it
800p for newer games with fsr seems to do well for this device and maybe on some older games 1440p ultra could be achieved
Agree on fx sound. Almost double the sound with fx sound.
hows the track pad feel comparing with steam deck?
Are any of the handhelds using Thermal Grizzly Liquid metal
4:56 slight misinformation there... both buttons on top on steam deck are start buttons and brings you to the in game main menu ... the bottom buttons are only for steam OS features.
Wow, that was such a sincere sponsor introduction
I wish they sold joycons with separate button placement
The three rings on the power button could be done like. First third flashes when filling solid 133 percent full than second one flashes while charging and solid 66 % full ect. For uploads it could just do a rotating pattern add a different color from the charging colors
My name is Legion Go and I am burdened with GLORIOUS PURPOSE!
😄 A wise man once said: “In all this world, there is no heavier burden than great potential.”
Too many handhelds!! Great content, btw. Having so many, do you see enough difference between one Windows handheld and the other to justify the average Joe buying more than one? The Deck, The Switch, and one Windows device I can see. But I'm curious about your experience with the multiple Windows devices.
Switch is mostly limited to nintendo IP. It can’t also run games with higher graphics
SD doesn’t run games outside of steam unless modded. There are also steam games that are not compatible to SD.
Windows devices feels more like a portable PC than a gaming console because of the UI.
A friend of mine had a ROC Ally and didn't care for it. She,and her boss, got a Legion Go. They both love it. She ordered the Legion Go for,have not come yet. From all the videos I have seen, I think I will enjoy the Go. The Steam Deck is a no go,as I get all my games from GOG. There are some things the Go should implement,and might have by the time I get it(one they fixed was the start and select buttons.)
After market custom joycons would be sweet
I got rid of my Asus ally and my steamdeck. I'm having such a good time with the legion go. It's so fun. Especially removing the controller's. This is the only portable I need until steamdeck 2
I did the exact same thing and got the legion go!
Doesnt legion go feel a lilttle bit chunky?
I’m not remotely interested in the Ally or OLED SD, I’m buying the Go!!!
You don't even know so much, rog ally 2 is announced later this year, the Orange Neo is dropping in the future. If the Neo would use andruid instead of a Linux, it would be way better. I hear they're switching to windows, which is sketchy but it will work very well of being a PC when youre not gaming. I like this.
@@CandysChannelThe only main considerations is if one wants an PC on the go. The deck is absolutely handicapped to being a PC on the go from notes, emails, hooking up thumbs, etc, only the ally and the Lgo is best for a portable PC. Now if you want a purely gaming handheld console, only launching some games, get the deck. And remember there's a lot that Linux can't play well
Great video man, may pull the trigger on a handheld soon. And fantastic quality on your vids
So did you end up getting one?
@@eternalfaeri1415 I got a gaming PC instead but this is still on the radar lol
@@jimmyharrison5411 Nice! What’re the specs, if you don’t mind me asking?
@eternalfaeri1415 It's a gaming laptop but nice: Acer - Predator Helios Neo 16" WUXGA 165Hz IPS Gaming Laptop - Intel i5-13500HX - GeForce RTX 4050 with 16GB DDR5- 512GB SSD - Steel Gray
@@jimmyharrison5411 damn, that’s pretty sweet! Enjoy it!
The trackpad has right click, just keep pressing for 3 seconds.
Yes sir! I got myself on last week. I like it! I was really attached to my Surface Pro tablet, which I did a lot of my work and my emulation…. with only 8Gb of RAM, I was limited to which games I could play. The Go has not disappointed yet …. getting a docking station is a must!!
Check out my latest, where I test the Go docked to a 4K Legion monitor
Seeing how big the performance gap is compared to the switch, I'm scared the switch 2 won't deliver. Especially if they use another Nvidia chip instead of AMD.
Ima wait for V2. I feel like they could improve lots of small things
*What is the best* ???🔥
5 seconds in and the game you choose to show footage of us Maximum Carnage? You’re a fucking boss.
I just tried the Ally yesterday at Best Buy and man that thing is huge! I can only imagine the Legion Go lol. Might be too big for me.
But can we play at native resolution ?
Which screen protector is that please?
Well said and thought out - I'm getting the Go on top of my SD. Some of my friends cannot wait and went with Ally and most of them are regretting this choice. Most of the problems with Go are software related which can be fixed later (Lenovo, you better!) - even the speakers!
Display isn't great 800p looks choppy and blurry
@@redrag0n_the legion go has QHD 16:10 display
I had a steam deck for a year… ditched it for an Ally and not looked back since… all I keep hearing is that the go doesn’t have VRR - can someone explain how much of a difference it’s makes NOT having VRR, as I love the screen size of the go but don’t want a downgraded experience.. thanks
Yea I was wondering the same thing. Some people make it seem critical. Would be nice to know from a user experience if it really matters that much
Agreed
Okay so what variable refresh rate does is when the frame rate is lower than the max and higher than the minimum that vrr allow it would take the refresh rate and drop it down to match the frame rate so it's not waiting for a frame from the computer and it's not just wasting refresh cycles in causing the game to feel studdery and vrr helps smooth out gameplay more then having a high refresh rate does at these lower fps targets, yea 144 hrzt screen is nicer then 120 but you won't be hitting those fps is many games and the smoother around 60 experience the Allies vrr screen allows feels much better for a hand held!
I have both an yes the games feel a lot smoother on the ally and at lower tdp higher settings
On the ally I can play a game at high settings at unstable 48fps but it doesn’t matter because it feels smoother
On the go I have to lower all settings and turn up the tdp to get a stable 60 and with the low resolution everything looks and feels horrible on AAA games.
The big screen on go is perfect for indie games for now until they fix it, also the speakers are TRASH.
@@somerandomhuman8405 do you think the OLED Stem deck will do any better?? Emulating that is
Great vid! But it looks like you haven't taken off the protective sticker from your trackpad 😅
Ha, yeah ! I mention it at 5:47. Because the pad is still so surprisingly responsive with it on, I let it be for now. Hoping to find a textured protective skin (as with the Deck) before I remove it.
Glad I got the Ally and will be keeping it. I like it beter than my Steam Deck and don't want to wait for Lenovo to figure these issues out. I really don't see a massively compelling reason to get the Go over the Ally, especially based on your very thorough video.
cope
What convinced you to get the Ally over the steam deck in the first place? What's the advantages that the ally has over the steam deck? Have you had the sd card problem that everyone else had? I know the ally has gotten more updates now so i wanted to know what the device is like now. My lcd steam deck is still going strong but i always like to keep in the know about other devices being made for an eventual upgrade.
@yeettheskeetboi8089 the answer is always windows over linux. Literally the main reason to go one of these handhelds over the deck
@@rams3955 eh preferably I like linux over windows for a handheld pc. no bloatware and steamos runs great. I could side load windows if I wanted to but I don't really play any games that exclusively require windows. steamos was improved for the deck and it's a seamless launcher. plus i don't have to worry about separate windows and manufacturer updates to drivers. windows on pc is already a headache enough lol
@@yeettheskeetboi8089 Haven't purchased anything yet, but Ally seems to crush SD in terms of performance though. SD wins at better battery life.
I hope they see this video or the feedback because some of these software exemptions are baffling
Would the Lenovo Legion Go (or any gaming handhelds) replace an Android tablet? I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 and was gonna upgrade to a new tablet: but, I also want a gaming handheld, just don't know enough to what is the best to get.
It depends on what games you wanna play. If you’re ok with what the app store offers, then just go with the tablet. If you want steam games, then go for the gaming console
@@juanlazy7949 What is the best handheld you recommend?
with the prices of gpus the last couple years, i can see handheld pcs being the go to system for many many people
Time for MS to develop windows game edition an ARM version, a game console like this with an equivalent of an Apple M3 chip would be wild
You have a very soothing voice, lol. Good video.
If i use it not only for gaming, actually using it for daily basis for work etc(i never use Linux system), does steam deck easy enough to use?
I think your average consumer is going to be much more familiar with windows OS for productivity.
I had two Lenovo Yoga laptops before and both are dead. So that kinda sways me from any Lenovo products. But the Go seems cool. I think I may get a Rog Z1Extreme though
YOOO i had the same issue when i had my legion i7 RTX 3060, and in my country, lenovo is a well-known and reputable company, nonetheless they couldn’t do anything for my laptop because they couldn’t get the spare parts which they should’ve had:)
Not going to lie, the launch was pretty atrocious and getting to work properly was a pain. But once you run windows update and manually update the AMD drivers, it runs like a dream. The only isssue I have is the dead area with the joysticks, but that's hopefully going to be fixed soon.
Fix your dead zone within steam, unfortunately cant do that with xbox app
best display, battery, and comfort? Steam deck OLED have them all.
And by far the worst performance.
@@gulfcoaster210 lmfao yep and no vrr but its only a big deal when its Lenovo because they sniff gabbens asshole
Performance is useless it will hardly able to last hour and none of them have ideal gaming experience For demanding games compared to laptops anyways@@gulfcoaster210
That APU is garbage at 1.2 TeraFlops.... piss water performance
The screen size and being detachable will really extend sessions for pure comfort alone. My switch light gets a lot less play time then my OG switch because I have a less options. Looks like the best of the bunch in its current state 👍👍
do you play the switch a lot detached though?
For the speaker issue . I use a neckband Bluetooth speaker (sony sn7) awsome experience. That way ypu dont always have to have something in or on ypur ear to get some proper sound
Nice. I'll check that out. Thanks.
Ok. 299 euros. Dam lol
@joeyxl3456 yeah have to get it on sale.
It’s really hard to chose between legion go and steamdeck Oled for me
Legion go right?
@@nolifezay4636 well that not an easy choice, I like the screen, battery and weight of the SD Oled (I had a classic SD before) and I’m mostly playing Indy / rogue like games
But I like the fps mode and the perf of the legion
As an owner of the first gen SD I personally think the OLED is great but the Deck was already starting to show its age with newer double and triple As in performance. I was loving it until act 3 of BG3 where performance tanked. I would love something with an OLED but with much better sustained performance. I'm keeping my eyes on the Go since many reviewers have said it has the a terrific screen for being LCD but Best Buy's sale for the Alley is also got my attention.
That game never should have been verified.
is the gyro in the mainbody or in the controller?
Yes
I had the Rog ally I've sent it back and getting the lenovo legion go .. my Rog after 10 mins my ally was absolutely red hot and fried a SD card
All I gotta say after watching you talk about the grip on the legion Go is that your hands are huge.
I want to see this exceed a lot to own it for a windows handheld!
Still can't decide between steamdeck OLED and Ally..please help 😸
Ally for performance, deck for the screen and comfort. Keep in mind that theres a lot of games the steamdeck cant run. If youre playing less demanding games ig go for the steamdeck.
Thanks for a great review m8! Like & subscribe, go on!
It looks to me like you still have the sticker on your touchpad.
as long as lenovo wont release significant updates for software as ally already have its not good idea to use. rog ally pulls ahead with better software while steam still have best one except linux and more or less console only. but lenovo had actually released their handheld too soon. at this moment its not ready. i do believe that in 3 months or so lenovo can go neck to neck with rog ally if they actually start working on it, but for now its kinda sorta cyberpunk 2077 version 1.01 even after few small fixes that already came.
does the steam deck oled changes anything?
bof pas de puissance en plus
I don’t like the Go because of it’s size, weight and it’s very bad software and also nor VRR but I like detachable controllers and 2 USB-C 4 which should works fine with eGPU. I have the Ally and I will keep it till the next version APUs comes out and more new handheld from other companies comes out to the market and then I will decide what I will get next.
The removable controls makes the legeon go the most compelling product out of the 3 to me. I would be very salty spending 500 to 700 dollars for a mobile gaming pc just to pick up stick drift.
Review the AYA NEO 2S
@2:35 which game?
I had mine for 24 hours and I still have not played a game on it before all the issues
Yeah I'm not holding a device a certain way so my hand doesn't go numb. If I can't just grab it and use it.. it's a bad design.
Sounds like the ergonomics suck if you need a tutorial on how to hold the thing 😭
You know what's funny. I went from steam deck to ally to lenovo, but keeping my switch.
Out of all of them I think the Steam Deck is going to be the better investment. Valve pushes so many updates and even goes out of their way to fix games that aren’t playing correctly. It’s also an easy entry point and cheaper for console players that want to get their feet wet. It was my own gateway into PC gaming.
I have all 3 and each one has their advantages, but I still find myself going back to the deck when I want to get in and get out fast on lunch or work breaks.
Oh yeah, I also found it funny that the Legion Go feels more comfy with the joycons removed. I just wish I didn’t feel like I was going to break something putting them on and taking them off lol😂. Anyways, another great video as always! Take care.
Yeah I'd be worried about long term support. Valve has a long term interest in SD since they make money off you buying games. Lenovo and Asus don't really have much incentive to provide long term support since they really only make money when you buy a new device.
I really like the screen size on the Legion go, but I will wait to see how much support the software and drivers get first.
I always felt like my steam deck is a bit laggy and just not snappy in the menus. Does the ally and/or Go feel snappier outside of games? Even my deck powering on from sleep seemed like it took 3-5 seconds.
Valve also sits on their hardware for a reeeeeal long time. Oled sd was the exception, not the norm. Look at the steam controller and valve index, still the same product.
I have all 3 mainstream handhelds none of them feel as good as the Steam Deck. But, I like the optimization on the Rog Ally sound stage, and VRR display games just feel smoother. The large screen on my Go is also pretty nice few more major patches I might make it my daily driver but, at the moment that goes to the Ally.
The majority of rog players do not even have VRR/freesync turned on in adrenalin. Moot
@@SiliconDrifter wat
I had a rog (died) for 3 months but it made me miss my steam deck now I have a lg I would never go back.
This or steam deck oled
I really don’t know I will probably just keep my steam deck LCD and that’s it
Lenovo will sell you specs and gimmicks but won't optimise any further... kinda sad at the lost potential of this device.
If it had better software optimizations(bare-bones legion go and better cpu voltage curve), VRR and better trackpad it would be a great alterntive
Software will mature, look at rog ally. No one really cared or even turned on VRR/freesync in adrenalin except the hardcore
Battery life and noise is the most important thing!
which is noisier? Between the 3?
@@TheLoneViper Havent tested the Legion yet on noise but the Ally is quieter than the Deck.
I just need 3rd party joycons because i hate that analog placement
They should offer a Steam Deck layed out joycon alternative
Wished legion go had Rog ally’s D-pad.
That would’ve been sweet.
After a few months once Lenovo gets their shit together legion go should be much better.
Next year's Ally and Go are gonna be so damn awesome when they get OLED. I'm this -->
Clicked for the info, stayed for the big brained explanations of the details.