Amsterdam Police Carbine: 8mm Mauser for the Carbine/SMG Squad
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In the wake of World War Two, much of Europe was awash in small arms - but there were still organizations looking to purchase new arms rather than use the available surplus. The Gemeentepolitie Amsterdam (Amsterdam Municipal Police), for example, formed a Submachine Gun and Carbine Brigade in 1948 to act as a response unit for situations beyond the scope of a typical police officer. They would use available British Sten guns for the SMG, but the only carbines readily available were leftover German K98ks. The Municipal Police opted instead to place an order for brand new carbines from FN. However, they only wanted 245, and FN was unwilling to make a special order for such a small quantity.
Instead, the Police piggybacked on a 1950 order for 20,000+ carbines by the Dutch East Indies Army. Two hundred additional guns were added for the Police, which differed only in their roll marks. These carbines were chambered for 8mm Mauser, with a "J" crest for Queen Juliana. They retained a bayonet lug, but bayonets were never used by the Police. They also retained the dual sling options form the East Indies pattern, but immediately upon receipt the Police armorers ground off the left-side wrist sling swivel, as it tended to interfere with a good shooting grip and was not necessary for municipal use. Many other Dutch law enforcement agencies also purchased Mausers around this time, but only 200 went to Amsterdam specifically.
Within only a few years, the use of carbines in 8mm Mauser began to be questioned. The recoil and muzzle blast form this cartridge in such a short barrel was punishing, and the municipal police really did not need such a powerful round for patrolling the city of Amsterdam (over penetration was a significant concern!). By 1965, all the police Mauser carbines were replaced with surplus American M1 Carbines, which were really far superior arms for the law enforcement role.
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The "gemeentepolitie Amsterdam" was not very close but I appriciate the effort :)
Thx i needed the translate lol
Then again I don't wish for Ian to get the amount of throat disease needed for accurate pronounciation
oh hey it's the airsoft guy
My god i thought he was trying to say something italian
@@gohunt001-5 lol, ook echt, opzich logisch hem een keer hier te vinden haha.
“They wanted to order 20,000; they ended up ordering 5,000 carbines for budgetary reasons.”
Sounds like a problem I can relate to. On a smaller scale of course.
Understandable. Same situation here. Wish I had the budget for just one, much less 5,000 or 20,000.
Yup, me too. I want 20,000 rifles, but for budgetary reasons I'll be ordering 3 instead.
'Buying less than what you need because of budget reasons.' Classic Dutch move that we still use alot nowadays.
As a fellow dutchman I can concur that this is standard dutch government procedure.
If 250 of something are needed, first appoint three different commissions to argue about it for three months, only to end up ordering 200... preferably of the wrong kind.
Better than the American move of spending money before you even have it or spending it just to spend it.
Speak for yourself, Vegas.
Being from Amsterdam and following Forgotten Weapons for many years this makes me a very happy camper. Thanks Ian!
Goeie naam
@@samholdsworth420 what’s *your* problem.. Acute diarrhea of the mouthhole?
@@samholdsworth420 I think shooting it will provide manly bruises ..... ;)
@@samholdsworth420 swamp german? You meen the only nation that concurs the sea😜
@@samholdsworth420 nou tenminste kan die schieten xD
I want to hear more about the genius salesman who convinced countries to buy new small arms a year after WW2 surplus flooded the market.
I hope he got the bonus he deserved
Given that we went straight from WW2 into the cold war, I can imagine that everyone would hold on to their guns. You eventually see WW2 surplus given away to, say, the South Vietnamese Army, but that's decades later. There weren't many guns left in the Netherlands after the liberation. Hell, the dutch didn't have that many before the occupation (the dutch service rifle was still the Gewehr M95, adopted in 1895), and the germans took it all.
Meanwhile, the Dutch went straight back into fighting Indonesia over whether or not it should be independent (which were called "Police Actions" which is a terrible euphemism), so they needed quite a few guns and the Americans weren't very keen to give theirs away (they didn't approve of the Dutch actions in Indonesia to begin with).
04:20 Queen Wilhelmina abdicated the throne in favour of Juliana in 1948.
Great video Ian! I am the proud owner of one of these guns. But i have the Wilhelmina carbine variant. This one was made before 1948 when Juliana took over from Wilhelmina. The contract was for 5000 rifles for the dutch 'rijks politie' (state police) and also made by FN. You can recognize these rifles with the W crown stamp on them. The 5000 rifles were built in 1947 and 1948 and i own serial number 1473. Also in 7.92x57 mm with the same barrel lengt. Shoots huge fireballs and kicks like a mule!
(ps in my profile picture you can see the fireball)
Sweet dude
Bedankt Voske, ik had wel eens gelezen in de SAM over de Wilhelmina karabijn, maar ik kon later op het internet niets vinden. Nu weet ik wel wat een Wilhelmina karabijn precies is.
That's awesome. Would love to see that gun show the 7.92mm out of such a short barrel. I can only imagine the fireball, the one in your profile picture doesn't do it justice, gotta see them in person. Hopefully you got some videos on your channel of you shooting it 😉
Man I feel like 7.92x57mm was such a good cartridge and was a very strong round with good armor piercing capabilities... I wish they still made 7.92x54mm today and was using them but I can understand why they switched over to the 7.62x51 since those bullets were very common. I havent done much research on the 7.92x54 and Mauser rounds but I heard they are pretty damn good with very good ballistics. 7.92 makes a really good sniper round from what I've heard as well but actually not as good as the 7.62x54 and 7.62x51 cartridges
In above comment I meant 7.92x54 not 7.62 lol
Gemeente Amsterdam.
We had our own rifle factory in the Netherlands, Hembrug.
They made the AR-10 there.
They're said to have been some of the best AR-10s in the world at the time.
He has a video on Dutch AR-10's.
@@spoonerman Yeah
Wilhelmina abdicated in 1948, she died in 1962
The Dutch East Indies ended in 1949 with the independence for Indonesia. With the exception for Dutch New Guinea where probably the bigger batch of these rifles were for.
Recovering after the war the Netherlands had a shortage off hard currency. Meaning Dollars, gold and lesser extend the British Pound. The economy was so government controlled and British and Americans banks already had so much Dutch guilders in their vaults that were not changing any more guilders into pounds or dollars. Plus the looming threat of an out of control inflation spiral akin to interwar Germany. As the USA and lesser extent Great Britain being the only viable sources to import the vital resource needed for rebuild and only accepted payment in these hard currencies and so the spending was strictly controlled by the Dutch government. That's probably why they ended up at FN where the payment could be done with Belgian Francs, there were no pounds or dollars to buy even cheap surplus supplies arms from Great Britain and the USA for the police or the local defense force of Dutch New Guinea. Any arms bought with hard currency would be shipped to East Indies to fight in the War of Independence (mostly British arms) or later used to rebuild Dutch military army in the Netherlands in the dawning of the Cold War and the birth of NATO.
Thanks for the context, greatly appreciated! I never knew the Dutch were so cash-strapped around that time despite Marshall Plan and war reparations from Germany.
"there were no pounds or dollars to buy even cheap surplus supplies arms"
Thanks, this helps answer why they didn't make the obvious choice of the M1Carbine right away, instead of waiting till 1962.
@@F1ghteR41 The Marshall plan lessened the problem of lack of dollars needed for the reconstruction, but it was a civil programm and mainly a good deliverance programm. And it took it's time to have effect.
Germany did not make war reparations as politically there was no Germany at that time, only occupied zones. Germany never made any war reparations after WW2 akin to the Versailles Treaty as there's never has been a peace treaty signed like that.
Man I love this channel! Literally the only place you can learn about firearms without someone saying “oh that Gun is from call of duty” or just swearing every five seconds. Keep up the good work man!
I got very lucky in finding one of these rifles at a gun show 2 years ago. Paid under 400 for it, I have dutch heritage and always wanted a dutch rifle. When I bought the rifle I had no idea what I purchased, the crest had been wiped. However the FN roll mark remained. Thanks for the video Ian! There was little information on these rifles.
Queen Wilhelmina didn't die but abdicated in 1948. She died in 1962. Crested W carbines ('Wilhelmina karabijnen") are reasonable common in Dutch shooting clubs.
Doumoulin Frères of Milnort near Liege, were building carbines slightly earlier, from 1948, on FN supplied actions. The majority used the heavy square bridge magnum length action, chambered for either 0.275 or 0.375 H&H Magnum. I had a 1948 built carbine, full stocked and originally in 0.275 H&H. When that round became obsolete in the 1960's, It had been returned to Edouard Binet in Brussels, from whom it had been originally purchased (as a wedding present) and was converted to the nearest modern equivalent, 7mm Remington Magnum. With its 18" barrel, the muzzle blast and recoil was definitely on the fierce side. I replaced the original Teil 6 x 30 scope with a Zeiss 6 x 30 with longer eye relief and a rubber eye buffer, after suffering a "Wetherby eyebrow" incident.
Did they have to adjust the twist rate on those due to the shorter barrel?
I can imagine a lot of extra tinnitus in the pre-hearing protection days along with it also doubling as a flash bang inside buildings
FN FAL-C was the upgrade, now you can own a automatic flash bang dispenser!
My dad bought one of those at an Ohio Gun Collectors gun show some time in the 60's. He told me that he was looking for a nice mauser to sporterize and he found a table full of these. One of them he picked up was serial number 2 but he ended up buying serial number 6 because it was in better shape. Yes i still have the gun but he did sporterize it. Its a beautiful little 8mm mannlicher sporter and yes the noise from it is obnoxious!
After WW2 the Indonesian war of independence started. In response, the Dutch government sent 140.000 soldiers to Indonesia. Since the Allies, especially the US, rightfully had doubts about the Dutch refusing the Indonesia their independence, they didn't want to give the Dutch more weapons. The M1 carabine would have been a better option for police use, and the US had millions of those gathering dust in warehouses.
Yep, from the end of WWII to sometime in 1949, the Dutch did subdue the rebellion, only to give in to foreign pressure (mostly the US), to give Indonesia independence.
Though my parents, and most of my relatives (of that generation) where born in the Dutch East Indies (N.O.I. - later Indonesia), they where mostly forces to leave their place of birth, and made refugees to the Netherlands, half a world away. Most, then moved to warmer climes, such as the southwestern US. (Indonesia - Tropical Hot. Holland - Butt fucking COLD. So Cal, Nice & warm, and dry, too).
The US gave M1 Carbines to everybody and their dog as military aid after the war. It's a consequence of massively over-ordering something because you don't know how long the war will last. Combine that with the fact that it's a pretty good weapon for police forces and you get cheap military aid.
Problem was post war the Dutch government could not trade guilders into dollars limiting their ability to buy surplus stocks and if they could a get their hands on any arms they would be shipped to Indonesia or later used to rebuild the Dutch Army dictated by the birth of NATO. So the dutch police could pretty much only get the guns from Belgium with which the Netherlands still had some form of trade exchange and thus Belgium Francs to spend.
@@tarmaque In this case sold M's tot the Netherlands after the Dutch granted Indonesia its independence.
I think it's a good thing that the US did not want their weapons to be used to repress the Indonesians.
Queen Wilhelmina abdicated in 1948 she would live on for many years after that. She died on 28 November 1962. The reasons she specifically abdicated are complicated but it is fairly normal for Dutch monarchs to abdicate rather than reign until death.
How many of us thought 'EEEEK' at the thought of firing this! 😄 Very interesting video, thanks.
I have a Spanish FR-8 carbine which is a similar size but chambered in 7.62x51 mm (.308). The recoil is brisk but manageable. I can only imagine that stepping up to 8 mm in a carbine that size would make shooting unpleasant. I'll bet in 6.5 it would be a real sweetheart, though.
@@itsapittie Imagine shooting it at night. You'd have to wear sunglasses. At night.
@@AshleyPomeroy 😎
I fired it. Not a whole lot of fun.
You trying to pronounce "Gemeente Politie Amsterdam" was great, I'd say you had it like ~60% right haha
I think closer to 30%. Both Politie and Gemeente were not pronounced correctly at all.
That's generous.
Didn't spit on the camera or at least sound like it.
It's 50% of Dutch and Welsh in my experience.
It sounded almost more italian than dutch the first time I heard him say it. Had to listen multiple times before I understood him...
Maybe being brabants doesn't help either.
Goed om te zien dat er zo veel Nederlanders zijn die dit kanaal ook volgend ! Nice to see that manny Dutch are subscribers are out there!
Love your videos Ian! The technical as well as historical content is what really makes them so interesting! As a side note Iam returning a sporterized and water damaged old Swiss Mauser carbine to shootable condition and your videos are contributing ideas to make a tribute to the "Mauser carbine that never was".
Thank you , Ian .
Seeing "8mm Mauser" and "SMG" in the title threw me for a loop before I realized what the title meant.
On the other hand, how fun of a range deafening utility that would be...
The muzzle flash on these are huge!
You can find them occasionally in Dutch gunshops for around 500-600€. They’re certainly cheaper as a German 98K.
I wonder where they will even let you shoot that here in the Netherlands, certainly not any indoor range lol
@@remcodenouden5019 No problem, the majority of gun ranges in the Netherlands are indoor in fact. In many European country’s you are only allowed to fire your guns at official gun ranges, not on your private property, except hunters.
@@remcodenouden5019 I shot one on a indoor range in The Netherlands last december. We also let two police officers shoot with it.
About why use them as a Police gun, thats simple: Shock and awe :)
@@bartb7790 Litterily a blast from the past for the Officers.
With such a short barrel and such a powerful cartridge I bet it could serve as a flashbang grenade when shot inside. 😊
Such a crazy design!
7:18 More like 24-26". Or, more precisely, something like 57-65 cm.
Looks like a perfect collector gun that you would enjoy using during deer season.
very interesting video, Ian. Thank you for taking the time to make it
Looks mint, I love the variations of Mausers around.
Be a bit of a beast to shoot for noise / recoil / muzzle blast out of that short barrel and in 8mm Mauser.
I used to own a 1938 pattern Moisin Nagant carbine, the one without the bayonet, and that was not pleasant to shoot from a recoil and muzzle blast point of view...it also had some curious white markings on the stock, which puzzled me until one fell out and turned out to be a tooth fragment....the carbine was dated 1942, and one often forgets these things were used in actual combat.....nasty.
At a glance, this rifle looks like a Zastava M48, also a short version of Mauser rifle in 8mm Mauser produced by Zastava, which took a service in our Indonesian Police (Polri) at the year around 1950-1960s
As soon as I started watching this I thought surely some surplus m1 carbines would be better than a something using a battle rifle round.... fortunately the Dutch got there eventually.... kind of like their war preparations were expected to do..
a Juliana carbine is still on my wishlist, but have to make choices as we only can own 5 weapons in the netherlands as a sportshooter. Great fireballs from those carbines.
Really? How do they count multiple uppers for the same lower receiver (on an AR15)
@@3of11 they count the lower as the weapon and the uppers don't count towards the maximum number of 5.
Oh, so the limit of 5 guns per person is not limited to Russia, I see.
@@F1ghteR41 well it's 5 per sporting license and 6 per hunting license but not all guns are allowed on hunting licenses. But you can get both a hunting and a sporting license. You can't use your sporting weapons for hunting, but you're allowed to use your hunting weapons for sport.
@@F1ghteR41 unless you have a collectors permit. Then there is no limit, you can theoretically fill your house with full auto. On the bright side, we dont have an ammo shortage.
8mm Masuer: for when the police REALLY don't care about over penetration and collateral damage
@@topguntin : For german 11,15x 60 ( blackpowder) a ,Wachpatrone/ guard cartridge existed, contained two round balls instead of one long projectile. In 8x 57 lS i don' t know. A sidenote : German police forces also used ( new or surplus i don' t know) rifles arround 1950. There was the socalled ,coffee war' along dutch- german border. Coffee smugling was a problem, and some of the smugglers used partly light armoured trucks.
The dutch police had the BAR in their arsenal until 1970. Never used in operations. Also, after the war the German MG34 was also part of its armoury. Also never used in action. Because they were never needed, but also because of overpenetration and collateral damage.
@@ikwer111 : Up to 1980s/ early 90s german paramilitary policeforces ( Bundesgrenzschutz of Federal Republik and Bereitschaftspolizei of german states) had assault rifles, machineguns, handgrenades and Bundesgrenzschutz only , few antiaircraft - and antitankweapons for wartime.
Recently i found the exact information concerning the amounts of carbines produced:
The Wilhelmina carbines was an order for 5000 rifles. Serial number 1 to 5000. Labeled with a W on the receiver.
Then the gemeente politie amsterdam ordered 200. Serial number 1 to 200 and marked with a J for Juliana on the receiver and also gem pol adam like in the video.
After that another order was made for these carbines. Serial number 5001 to 6098. Marked with a J and also gem pol on the side.
I use a commercial Mauser-98 in 7.92mm with an 18" barrel for hunting and, yes, she is a flamethrower.
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Another good day of work,a good cup of coffee and FW uploads a new video. Men,life is good.
Another great forgotten weapons review. I watched it on my lunch break at work. I was wondering what the differences between carbine/short rifle! 20-22" short rifle 16-18" carbine. Keep up the great work.
I have a FN 1950 Carbine that was a contract for Columbia. It was originally made in 7x57, but later converted to .30-'06. Talk about a flame thrower!
Vaclav - is your Colombian FN carbine as short as this?
@@wes11bravo they did have a carbine variant in 3006
@@wes11bravo yes, the same exact. The barrel is about 17" long if I remember correctly.
Hmm, perhaps the decrease in carbines reflected a change in (special) squad composition...e.g. more SMGs added to the squads?
And yeah, that puppy would be a beast to operate; unpleasant to shoot, equally unpleasant to be down-range of.
I thought that, too.
Situation in 1950 was also more stabilised. Less threats could also equal smaller force. But in these time of rebuilding everything was constrained, of course not stopping government agencies from having ambitious plans. Rebuilding plan for the Dutch Navy springs to mind as the most mental.
Thanks Ian you made me laugh when you pronounced the dutch. You did it very well but its funny to hear an American say dutch stuff. I am glad the Amsterdam police doesn’t use these anymore. Couple of years ago we played a rugby match against their corps that was big fun
I'm from Amsterdam and I like forgotten weapons. Groeten uit Nederland!
8MM carbine. My heart 💙 went pit a pat. It's what was / is still my go to deer hunting rifle. Dad had one specially sporterized with a compass in the stock. Mine wasn't so fancy. But my God the memories ! Sigh. Carry on and keep on carrying
Ian.....im gettin withdrawal symptoms. Im used to a video a day!!! Ive got the shakes and cold sweats! Need more videos!!
I took my first deer with an 8mm Mauser my 8th grade year. I literally got an eye infection the week of opening deer season lol , that made it alot harder to use iron sights. Man those rifles can kick
Full size Mauser in 8mm aren't really that bad recoil wise( 30-06 like). This rifle in 7mm would be more practical.. I knew a guy that had his basement full of old 8mm Mausers, $50-90 a piece, depending on condition.
Queen Wilhelmina didn't die in 1948 she abdicated the throne to her daughter. She passed away in 1962.
Thanks Ian. Maybe you could do a segment on how to store your rifles.🙏❤️
he already made a video about that a few years ago ;)
Beautiful little thing!
A few minutes in I was thinking "If you need a carbine at this time, why not an M1?". They were plentiful, just contract to have a few hundred refurbished. And then we see that they did buy M1s for this role. So, why not at first?
This does raise the question: Did the US ship home all of its weapons or did it supply the Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, etc directly from stocks already in Europe?
Watching this makes me wonder just how many countries, and how many different armed services within those countries, eventually bought the U.S. M1 carbine, which during it's heyday was a pretty unique weapon concept, a lightweight reduced power semi-auto carbine developed from the ground up as a weapon for secondary roles, rather than just being a cut down version of a full power military rifle. The closest thing I can think of that even comes close would be the Soviet SKS rifle, which was actually intended for frontline infantry but to some degree relegated to secondary roles by the success of the AK-47 and it's derivatives.
Likely because there were so many cheap WW2 surplus weapons. My dad tells stories of brand new WLA Harleys being sold for $20 in the mid 50s. I can only imagine how cheap M1s would have been by the thousand!
I remember reading that both Germany and Japan ended up using the M1 Carbine after WW2 - the German post-war police were given M1s, and Howa in Japan ended up manufacturing new carbines for the Japanese police. They even exported a bunch to Thailand.
@@AshleyPomeroy Japan manufactured their own? I didn't know that. Do you have any idea what the total production numbers were?
My dad got one in a bundle deal for a steal. Had no idea what he was buying. Just a cool mauser carbine. Now we know. Thanks Ian.
A dinky, little gun, but as you say; monstrous powerful cartridge.
I have a friend who was stationed at the US Embassy in Jakarta in the 1960's and he brought one of these back and had it sporterized. The Dutch Police used a special downloaded 8x57 round to try to mitigate the ferocious muzzle blast and recoil from the 17.3" barrel.
I hope we see 3 of this type of video a week now
Awww, what a cute whittle wifle.
Hi Ian, you`re talking about the so-called WILHELMINA (1946/7) and Juliana (1948/9) carbines by FN Herstal Belgium for the Dutch police; I had one and shot it myself and I assure you, they are not very nice to shoot, they kick like mules. After 1949 the Dutch acquired the M1 carbine from the US. BTW the republic of Indonesia was formally established in 1949 so the KNIL (Royal Dutch Indies Army) did not need those carbines anymore..................................Greetz from the Netherlands!
Great as usual!
Ooooh... Another Mauser I want to add to my Wall o' Mausers...
Instead of a flashbang, open the door and fire one of these into it
I find that you did a pretty good job of saying "gemeentepolitie" since Amsterdam is something most can pronounce i would say. :D
I tried searching if the Netherlands ever made a gun model and this helped me out
I was interested if our country ever made weapons
Note: did not watch it when I typed this
Neat little carbine. I can see the attraction for the police. But you are right about the 8mm Mauser. A bit hot for a carbine.
1400 meter sights in case you need to smoke a bank robber at 3/4 of a mile with your carbine.
You're pronouncing it like a Finn would. You've noticably spent a lot of time there hahaha.
Them "Juliaantjes" kick like a frikin' mule.
Imagine the fireball that would come out of a rifle that short chambered in 8mm.
I have a Venezuelan contract police carbine in 7mm Mauser. Handy little thing, plenty accurate out to about 200 yards. Fun to shoot!
als nederlander ben ik blij hoe Ian "gemeente politie" uitspreekt, geweldig lol
Slecht maar geinig!
Ah yes, the tinnitus machine!
Immagine shooting one of these in a narrow corridor of concrete with no ear protection... Here is what you'll hear: BAAAAAAAAAAAAANGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
And you will hear thet for the whole week.
I am sure FN was, internally, amused that the Dutch for ordering so many silly carbines in 8mm. I would not be surprised if FN didn't send a few letters gently questioning the customer about their more dubious requirements, so as to avoid the massive inconvenience of having to make changes halfway through production or worse. Lucky for FN, looks like the Dutch were committed to their bad idea, but we get a good historical firearm out of it, so win-win for posterity and FN's bottom-line.
Having turned a Turkish 8mm long rifle into an 18" carbine, I can testify that it makes quite a sonic weapon. Muzzle blast is ferocious.
Would have been good to see a comparison of both the 7 and 8 mm rounds.
Second the motion
@@seldonwright4345 and for the later variants in 30 06
8 mm mauser is 12.8gx760m/s. 7 mm is 9gx850m/s, both from similar lenght barrels. You have 78% of the recoil, with more initial speed and a similar aerodinamic. By far a better round
Thank you.
"...in 1950 the Dutch government order many thousand carbines for their East Indies army..."
Ian, 1950 is the year Koninklijk Nederlands Indisch Leger get disbanded. 😀🙃
Juliana didn't take over after the death of her mother, but Wilhelmina stepped back in '48.
Wilhelmina died in' 62.
It looks like a shorter version of the Yugo M1924 with a bent bolt handle. Which those were first made by FN as well so that makes sense.
Very nice example, my only concern would be recoil in 8mm Mauser. Would make a great hunting rifle, but due to its rarity I would only be a proud collector with it, and occasional range user.
finally THE weapon i love
Thing looks to be in beautiful condition!
Beautiful rifle, but can you imagine firing this inside a building without earplugs?
Damn,that's a neat gun!!!!
A Julianaatje :D
I had one. It was my first hunting rifle. (mind you, a lot of these were sporterized after they were sold off / given away) It had a beautiful Bavarian stock and a scope (Zeiss). I bought it for the total sum of 1 bottle of Jenever (dutch gin). And it was nearly brand new, probably less than 100 shots fired. After a firing a couple of shots on the shooting range, I figured out why it wasn't used much and why it was so cheap. At the spot, I sold it off for a bottle of jenever (rather, I paid the guy a bottle of jenever to take it from me).
Sporterized and original Juliana-carbines kan still be found, and often in pristine condition (makes sense). If you're paying more than 250 euros, you are probably ripped off.
Hemen-tea polli-tea? Nooit van gehoord. Maar ik ben wel trots op je. Dankjewel voor de content.
What a little beauty.
Its still surprising to me that people are still buying bolt action weapons like this for military/police rolls post WW2
8mm Mauser the perfect caliber for using in a crowded city provided u don't mind also hitting Mrs Van Der Nohead three houses behind the target u were shooting at
For a rare weapon… this looks like a cute version of the Mauser
Learning dutch grammar and vocabulary is easy, pronounciation is very difficult however.
Pitty those are rare, would love to own one. I absolutely love my VZ24 Mauser.
Speaking of carbines, I had an M44 mosin at one time. Blast to shoot that thing, kicked like a mule, and the fireball was fun.
That was an adorable attempt at pronouncing Gemeentepolitie 😊
Very nice rifle.
with such a small barrel this carbine almost could double as a flamethrower
It does :)
@@bartb7790 weird how they chose this caliber, It's actually kind of dangerous for police work, you might accidentally kill someone half a mile away, or on the other side of a wall.
The carbine is of course beautiful and it's looks alone might be a deterrent, but they could have gone for a 9mm parabellum pistol cartridge, or 9x25 Mauser or something like that,
going for stopping power at short range, It's not like a cop is ever going to have to shoot a criminal hundreds of meters away... They could have invented the pistol caliber carbine decades before it became popular.
I believe that the American M1 Carbine was superior for general law enforcement work to bolt action rifles and submachine guns. That 8mm Mauser is still a handsome arm.
Stay safe during the winter weather this week..
actually wilhelmina retired in 1948. She died in 1962.
Great home defence weapon. Aim real low so the round goes into the foundation. The huge flash, very loud muzzle report, and all the dust falling will cause the intruder to have a coronary. Less clean up afterwards due to no blood. There might be some 💩 splatter though
Then you'd need to repair the foundation. :P
@@drg5352
True but you won't hit the Nieghbors
Precious.
Respect for trying the nail the Dutch pronunciations. Greetings from the Netherlands.