Aristotle, Rhetoric book 2 | Definition of Anger | Philosophy Core Concepts
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This is a video in my new Core Concepts series -- designed to provide students and lifelong learners a brief discussion focused on one main concept from a classic philosophical text and thinker.
This Core Concept video focuses on Aristotle's work, the Art of Rhetoric and examines his discussions in book 2 bearing on the emotion of anger.
This video focuses specifically on Aristotle's complex definition of anger, which includes a number of elements including
apparent slighting (oligoria)
pain and pleasure
desire (orexis) for retaliation (timoresis)
slighting being against oneself or those connected to oneself
the slighting being wrong, unjust, or inappropriate
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You always have a great way of explaining things Dr Sadler!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for making this video. I haven’t heard of this work by Aristotle so far.
There is a book about a form of anger, rage, called Rage and Time by Peter Sloterdijk, it is a psycho political work from 2006 I believe. It goes back to The Iliad and what Rage means to the work.
The Rhetoric is a work by Aristotle I've mentioned in many of my videos.
There's literally thousands of works out there about anger.
@@GregoryBSadler Ah, understood. I was suggesting a book I read on a form of anger. I have not seen all your videos, mainly Existentialism (Nietzsche, read a few others ,like HeideggerI also like eastern philosophy which I find an interesting read but it’s hard to find good ones (eastern text) nowadays. Since school is starting I will probably look more into your work. Thank you for producing this content, cheers.
I've got Aristotle's ' The Art of Rhetoric'. Do you think it's worth reading the version you have as well or would the version I have express the same concepts enough? That said, I noticed in yours there's a chapter on the concept of Enthymeme in the modern age. I think that would definitely be useful for me to go over, because it feels like Aristotle sometimes uses it in the same way I was taught as an undergrad (suppressed premise), but then in other times uses much more loosely (for any valid argument). I think that having a clear understanding of what Aristotle means by Enthymeme makes the text easier to read (unless he uses it less often in this text). Do you think that chapter is needed for additional clarification on reading this text?
You want a full version. I don't have a clue why there would be a chapter missing.
What does any of this have to do with the topic of this video?
@@GregoryBSadler Sorry yeah I was just curious if it was the text you have was similar to my one, but as you mention it seems like I have a diluted version, or perhaps a different text entirely. In the anger section of my text he uses enthymeme quite a bit, that's why I thought it may be relevant, but now I think they may very well be entirely different texts. Thanks.
Why does the slighting have too be or feel undeserved?
I imagine a bad faith actor getting called out, deservedly, for their bad faith actions would still be angry. As that anger may stem from being robbed the desired outcome from their bad faith actions. Especially those who may engage with said bad faith actions, with the intent to deceive.
How would this concept be rectified under Plato's ideas?
Excuse the Plato part ... Still interested though.
Bad faith actors typically behave the way they do because on some level they think they're entitled to. It's easy for people to think something is undeserved wrongs, now, isn't it?
@@GregoryBSadler I think I may see. Although is entitlement the only justification possible for anger with a bad faith actor to see a undeserved slight? Though not sure if this direction sidetracks the discussion topic ... Does Aristotle ever consider anger as something other than personal slight? Maybe something similar to a pain caused by exposure, and or acknowledgment.
Though i guess the act of exposure or acknowledgment could be seen as the slight in itself. Answering one of my own questions. Was thinking of something like a nerve inside a cracked tooth, that is exposed. The nerve can be considered aggravated or angered, which is why some people try to kill or constantly numb those exposed nerves, to remove the pain. Kind of like fantasies of vengeance and the like, when angered.
@@riskyanalysis5479 You're going to want to read the text, and think through some of this stuff on your own. Or book my time for a tutorial session
I have some time. I'll find a copy and take some time to read it through. Cheers.
it's all ogre (shrek references make me angry.)
Yes, Orge