Havik needs buffs though. He needs to get the same treatment Quan Chi, Rain and Reptile have received so far. New moves, and buffing some of his current moves somehow.
No he is objectively the worst character in the game, however some kameos like Mavado and Kano make him far more usable at least, ESPECIALLY Mavado. The biggest problem that holds him back is how slow his low and mid starters are: any plus strings he has SHOULD allow him to at least get his low in before getting beat by a d3 or d1, but they don't. So whenever Havik is plus, the only options he has are poking or throwing. He is a LOT less threatening than other characters with good plus frames because of that, which is what makes him so bad. HOWEVER, Havik's standing 2 1 string is +6, which guarantees his sweep to hit if the opponent tries to poke (Havik's b4 is 12 frames). This is what really makes Mavado work for him, since Havik has one of the few popup sweeps in the game, allowing Mavado to give him a full kombo off of a sweep. Basically every time Havik does his standing 2 1 string, he has a really good mix where the opponent either ducks and eats a full combo, or blocks and eats a throw, which Mavado can also convert into a full kombo. It's a true 50/50, the only escape is armor.
Exactly this, the title should be "so I mastered him WITH MAVADO" and this is reafirmed by the fact that your comment is not hearted while others are lmao
Objectively every character is better than Shang Tsung so he’s definitely the worst character and is only good in one form and still gets outzonned by non zoners
@@thzcrossbowsonly9329 he's not worse than Havik but he's definitely not good either, you're right Shang being out zoned by other characters is ridiculous. The entire point of his Young form is to be a zoner and he can't even really do that
I found out Havik can get two Neoplasm pop-ups at mid screen if the second one comes off his f4. The timing is tricky and he needs a kameo to catch afterwards to convert further, but it makes for a really high damage low-resource connector.
As a Havik main Mavado is great for him. Havik still needs major buffs though so that can be good with more kameos and be good when he doesn't have a kameo available either. You still won't see Havik be played at many major (well done to WizeGemini for beating RewindNV with Havik though) tournaments until he gets some buffs.
Havik isn’t the worst Kharacter in the game. He’s just not easy to use for players like myself. I like to get up close and personal and Havik is more about resets and frame traps.
he still needs a buff regardless, he may be good enough for someone skilled to use him. however his moves have way too many gaps in them, blood ball is slow, BF2EX can get crushed by a ex getup, unless you wait ofc. but the slightest hit just makes it go away. same with BF1EX and db3 is painfully slow on startup. wish that was quicker tbh and maybe led to a grab command if ex, i feel like havik should be the jax we didn’t get in this game. brawler/grabber tournament lvl or just going up against some very skilled, they will blow it. however mavado has surely helped him out a lot and made me enjoy him even more just like when i picked him up in the beginning of this game
Dude give some tips pls. I just can't get the string b22=>bf1=>b22=>db1=>uK I just can't get Mavado to appear at the point when i perform db1. I tried buffering, i tried to press it almost simultaneously. I can't get the timing.
I don't know I'm just saying as a fellow havoc main his combo potential with Movado is crazy I once hit a 23 combo that did 883 damage I'm just saying he has potential my guys
My friend mains Havik and I don't care what you say. 1 kameo doesn't make a character great. I vouche for Havik players when I say he needs help. Too many gaps and some of his pokes puts him at a disadvantage in some match-ups.
@@combosensei the longer the combo the more gravity makes it fail for me, I wish he had a more consistent ender. They need the command grab to always connect or shit do something
theres a secret technique make sure input shortcuts on then do dbu(down back up) and the hit kameo and special move button at some time and do it in one motion or no work 👍🏾
@@underlicounorthstar732 fr he is that’s why I love him he the underdog in almost every fight I go into until they realized he isn’t as bad as people think
As a Havik main I am very happy with Mavado. It’s like having a buff.
Havik needs buffs though. He needs to get the same treatment Quan Chi, Rain and Reptile have received so far. New moves, and buffing some of his current moves somehow.
@@coldsixthousand1I think the Sub treatment ( hitbox fix ) will work. Most hits whiff when they shouldn’t. Geras suffers the same
He just got silently nerfed…. Damaged wise. I use him with ermac and bruh i do like 8-12 less damage depending on what route i take 🤦🏽♂️
The back 2 having two separate combo routes with mavado is SO sweet
I didn't know another one existed.. where have you been brotha..
No he is objectively the worst character in the game, however some kameos like Mavado and Kano make him far more usable at least, ESPECIALLY Mavado. The biggest problem that holds him back is how slow his low and mid starters are: any plus strings he has SHOULD allow him to at least get his low in before getting beat by a d3 or d1, but they don't. So whenever Havik is plus, the only options he has are poking or throwing. He is a LOT less threatening than other characters with good plus frames because of that, which is what makes him so bad.
HOWEVER, Havik's standing 2 1 string is +6, which guarantees his sweep to hit if the opponent tries to poke (Havik's b4 is 12 frames). This is what really makes Mavado work for him, since Havik has one of the few popup sweeps in the game, allowing Mavado to give him a full kombo off of a sweep. Basically every time Havik does his standing 2 1 string, he has a really good mix where the opponent either ducks and eats a full combo, or blocks and eats a throw, which Mavado can also convert into a full kombo. It's a true 50/50, the only escape is armor.
Great comment, I love when people break down the frames and the beautiful mind games you can play with them.
Exactly this, the title should be "so I mastered him WITH MAVADO" and this is reafirmed by the fact that your comment is not hearted while others are lmao
Objectively every character is better than Shang Tsung so he’s definitely the worst character and is only good in one form and still gets outzonned by non zoners
@@thzcrossbowsonly9329 he's not worse than Havik but he's definitely not good either, you're right Shang being out zoned by other characters is ridiculous. The entire point of his Young form is to be a zoner and he can't even really do that
He needs at least 1 plus string, or a faster mid. You have to counter poke to take your turn and his buttons dont always jail. For me anyway.
One of the zestiest youtubers I've come across 🙏
I found out Havik can get two Neoplasm pop-ups at mid screen if the second one comes off his f4.
The timing is tricky and he needs a kameo to catch afterwards to convert further, but it makes for a really high damage low-resource connector.
As a Havik main Mavado is great for him. Havik still needs major buffs though so that can be good with more kameos and be good when he doesn't have a kameo available either. You still won't see Havik be played at many major (well done to WizeGemini for beating RewindNV with Havik though) tournaments until he gets some buffs.
FACTS!
Ermacs Invincibility that doesn’t even cost any meter as start up is clearly the most rancid move in the game as of now.
Ongggggg😂😂😂
To be fair, that was an FGC guy so guaranteed sweat. Great win tho
You're the best Havik I've seen bro
the Katara Vala Skin with the emo hair is peak. Also the scummiest move is Raiden storm cell. Cheers from a fellow noobie MK1 Tuber
Nah the base colored katara vala skin with the helmet u unlock in mastery is peak. Together it's like a updated version of his Deception look.
Most overpowered move in MK1 is bringing out sento
Havik isn’t the worst Kharacter in the game. He’s just not easy to use for players like myself. I like to get up close and personal and Havik is more about resets and frame traps.
I'd like to face your Havik against my day 1 Havik. I wanna see how how much you really mastered Havik
he still needs a buff regardless, he may be good enough for someone skilled to use him. however his moves have way too many gaps in them, blood ball is slow, BF2EX can get crushed by a ex getup, unless you wait ofc. but the slightest hit just makes it go away. same with BF1EX and db3 is painfully slow on startup. wish that was quicker tbh and maybe led to a grab command if ex, i feel like havik should be the jax we didn’t get in this game. brawler/grabber
tournament lvl or just going up against some very skilled, they will blow it. however mavado has surely helped him out a lot and made me enjoy him even more just like when i picked him up in the beginning of this game
I agree he needs a wake up also
@@combosensei yeahh but they keep nerfing him 😭. like how tf does rain get a buff and new moves over havik????!!! like what
@@combosensei also great vid , your havik is surely very good. i also wish our brutality’s worked in juggles too
Havik is fun to watch!!!!!!
I’m having trouble connecting the down back one with the mavado, can you please explain the timing
Once you do b2,2, db1 then you do up kameo
When I do that movado won’t come out 😢
I hate Reptile's teleport drop and Sub zero's dive kick and ice clone.
Just subscribed to this channel
Id remove the smoke pressure because in MK11 my boy Kabal had pressure but he had a meter
Like I said before, people just don’t know how to use him
Exactly
Totally agree. Havik is not low tier or worst
Shang Tsung is the worst, which really sucks because I like that character.
I'm hoping Havik and Shang are buffed in the upcoming Homelander patch.
That’s a horrible take
There are no low tier characters, every character is good in this game.
well said
Dude give some tips pls. I just can't get the string b22=>bf1=>b22=>db1=>uK
I just can't get Mavado to appear at the point when i perform db1. I tried buffering, i tried to press it almost simultaneously. I can't get the timing.
You have to delay the mavado for a second then press him after db1
@@combosensei well thats basically what i do. But every time i hear the sound of “error” and kameo doesn’t come out(( thnx for the tip
Havik×Mavado is a nasty team 💪
Havik and Jax is great for me
Right now I’ve been using havik Kano it’s still a great team
Kung lao armoured launcher is the scummiest move
raiders storm cell or johnnys 8 frame armor kick move
sumiest move is prolly johnny’s parries bro. both special move and fatal blow are busted
Ooh yeah he doesn’t need that…
I don't know I'm just saying as a fellow havoc main his combo potential with Movado is crazy I once hit a 23 combo that did 883 damage I'm just saying he has potential my guys
883? I dont blv
Havik was pretty bad but then mavado came out and hes crazy now
u did tht shit💪🏾
My friend mains Havik and I don't care what you say. 1 kameo doesn't make a character great. I vouche for Havik players when I say he needs help. Too many gaps and some of his pokes puts him at a disadvantage in some match-ups.
I agree I never said he was great I said he wasn’t the worst
How do you make such nice thumbnails?
Just gotta find your style and learn from your peers
The scammiest move? Emarc down one, it has to be nerfed it’s too quick
No
I feel havik underrated
When i do the db1 after mavado, it doesn't work. How do you do it?
Do back 2,2, db1 then wait for the opponent to go up then do mavado
are you getting the up mavado assist so contently
Yes it’s just a bit delayed
@@combosensei what’s the timing because my brain just can’t seem to get it
Bro you connected the air launcher to raw db4!!!! How??? I've tried that so many times and can't get it to work.
Yeah that one is rough you have too wait about a second too hit the ground then go for the db 4
@@combosensei the longer the combo the more gravity makes it fail for me, I wish he had a more consistent ender. They need the command grab to always connect or shit do something
@shotgunsherman I agree it’s definitely too hard too get that to end I missed a lot recording the video
theres a secret technique make sure input shortcuts on then do dbu(down back up) and the hit kameo and special move button at some time and do it in one motion or no work 👍🏾
Nobody said havik is the worst 😂 ppl say scorpion or sub are the worst in the game but even those can get easy wins and even tournament play 😂
I still go strong with havik he is my best and if im being honest I rarely loose with him even against shitty matchups
Havik is omega underrated
@@underlicounorthstar732 fr he is that’s why I love him he the underdog in almost every fight I go into until they realized he isn’t as bad as people think
Tanya is haviks worst matchup; you can win against most Liu's with skill but your armor and range is truly useless against Tanya.
How is havik bad to anyone spamming projectiles to get in is so frustrating
That what I’m saying I’ve seen most tier lists put him bottom 2
Bruh who tf says Havik is the worst?!?
OMG I WAS THE TANYA!!!!
I’m so honored even tho I got peaced lol
(Edit) also I promise I’m not that bad usually I was just doing terrible that day 😂 but good video man keep up the good work!
Much love you were great bro those combos went crazy
It was fun too play against
Dude I would love to see a Tanya vid by you man, hardly anyone plays her! 😂
The scummiest move in mk1 by far is Ashra's jumping sword slash. Can't stand it.
All u have to do is stand block or up block it.
Too bad they nerfed mavado 😪
They did?
TORPEDO gotta go
FOR SURE
Now mavados nerfed lol pretty stupid as he balanced out the game aswell being minus 100hp
Yeah they really hate fun in this game
So who's worse than him? Just asking
Shang and nitara as of now in my opinion
Sub zero is so much worse😂 havik is 2nd worst tho probs
Ide say Shang is worse than both
@@combosensei playing sub is like fighting in your dreams
Havik is still the worst character in the game lmao
Bro its sub zero
@@AngelHernandez-jt3lx not even close. Sub has so many better tools than havik, that it's not even funny