Greetings! That is quite true--once you go anamorphic, any 16x9 images won't fill the screen. This solution truly is the best of both worlds! I lose no picture quality and no light from the projector at all.
Greetings! I have the Lumagen Radiance right before the projector in the signal chain. I connect the Oppo to Input 1 on the Lumagen, and I connect everything else to the Integra, which I then connect the Integra to Input 2 on the Lumagen. Not much processing happens with the Oppo becasue I don't own any DVDs, but in the rare instance where I do see a DVD that somebody brings over, the Lumagen works its magic!
Greetings! You can set the Aspect Ratio to either of those if you desire. The Lumagen does the math, so whatever aspect ratio you select will be properly conveyed. Scale Bias can be on or off--it's a personal preference thing.
So... this setup mean that you have the projector set up to constantly project to the full 2.35:1 width i.e. the projector is zoomed out so the black bars are above and below the 2.35:1 screen. And then when in 2.35:1 mode the lumagen doesn't have to do anything to the 2.35 video sent to projector (like as if it wasn't there) and in 16:9 mode it is basically scaling down the full 16:9 image so it fits in middle of 2.35:1 rectangle. Doesn't this mean you are not getting full 16:9 resolution?
Scale Bias can be on or off. It's best to turn it off if most of your sources match the projector's resolution (1080p blu ray-1080p source) but if you watch a lot of, say, TV at 720p or 1080i, then I'd suggest turning it on.
It is certainly possible. For this, you don't have to do anything but do two steps even at factory settings: 1) Press the 2.35 button, and 2) click NLS. The Lumagen will stretch the picture. It's only obvious if you're looking for it, or watching very familiar material like a favorite movie. ((the brain gets used to seeing things a certain way) Even then, it's only subtle.
This is the Logitech Harmony 1100, but this will work with any Universal remote that's programmable. It also, of course, works with the remote that Lumagen includes.
I am planning to get the DVDO VP50 (much cheaper choice for me right now) I was wondering if it will haev the same features as the lumagen. It does mention that it does CIS and NLS and it also does electronic masking. just wondering if it will be like this...
Do u know if any projector does vertical strech when 3D is enabled cuz on mine its grey out cant be done on it when 3d is on i need a solution for this need the vertical stretch in 3d mode if u know of any projectors blu-ray players or video processors let me know if u have done this and tested it out the new avatar movie came out in 3d in 60fps thats the way 3d should be enjoyed
on 4:07 its automatically preselected depending what selection you make from remote, when you'll be watching movie and in remote select 2.35 it will be selected in that menu here as well, so you a bit wrong by saying "do not set 2.35" you actually cannot preselect from that menu it is showing currently selected input, but you'll have to switch bias off for 16:9 and 2.35:1
Damn you just gave me hope. So you're saying this lumagen can work with any type of projector? I have an epson 8350. Would I be able to project it on 2:35:1 aspect off this native 16:9 1080p projector without and loss of picture quality?. Also, I did research getting something like this ranges anywhere from 1500-3000 depending on model. What would stop me from just upgrading this to a capable projector. I know my projector is pretty dated and there are better pj now. However getting will I also be able to view video 3d as well? Thanks for posting your video.
Thanks for the reply. I saw in the video that you mention that you where going to calibrate the lumagen and your projector. I was wondering how will you do it because i live in the dominican republic and over here we don't have ISF calibrator so i was looking at some calibration softwares and one that caught my eye was the Calman automated calibration software. With both the Lumagen And JVS RS45 that software can do the calibration automatically since i don't know much about calibration.
BrolicBeast how did you connect the Lumagen radiance. I saw in other videos that you have a Integra Processor, Oppo 95, xbox ,ps3 and your cable tv box. Do you connect everything to the Integra processor then you connect to the Lumagen Radiance and then to the projector? if thats the case do you let the Oppo 95 do everything like up-convert or deinterlace DvD's or do you set the Oppo 95 to pass-through so the Lumagen Radiance do all the work. Sorry for all the rookie questions.
hey BrolicBeast that was pretty cool. I was planning to get a anamorphic lens for the projector i'm saving to getto play 2.35 on a 2.35 screen but i was reading that when i watch 16:9 content I have to remove the lens and the picture won't fill the whole screen. That i have to Mask the sides of the screen and that would cost me more. With your set up i see that a can save money and get the best of everything. Do you lose any picture quality or lose any light from the projector?
I have a RS6710 on order and I am planning to hookup a radiance mini3d int he chain to project to my 120" SI BD 1.4 screen. Are you available on any kind of messenger to help a noob out on how to have the lumagen scale any kind of output to fill the full 2.35 screen? Video Sources will be Oppo BDP-103D, HTPC, PS3 Reciever is a Denon AVR-X4000. Great video but I am pulling my hair out confused as to how to get all this setup.
Hey i am planning to get one video processor..but the lumagen is too expensive..can you recommend other cheap video processors that could do 16:9 to 2:35:1 and nls stretching etc..?
Will this device get rid of the black bars when zooming, or do you still get overspill of the black bars, or as asked by Rob Mclaine, Will doing this also eliminate the black bar over spill that you get when zooming, or do you still get overspill of the black bars?
Is this worth getting to use with an epson 8350? Contemplating an upgrade however if this is the way to go as far as getting 2:35:1. Only issue I have with my projector is the fast motion blur it has. Your opinion would be appreciated on the performance of this video processor
My question is do i calibrate the projector first using the Calman software then calibrate the lumagen or should i calibrate the Lumagen only since i'm connecting everything to it?
With NLS stretching the 16:9 content onto 2.35:1 screen you loos 12% of information from top and bottom and it is clearly seen in your video, its not perfect solution but acceptable at many cases.
Hi, am trying to get this to work for me (just bought a second hand luminance processor but though I follow the steps, once saved it still doesn’t switch between aspect ratios, it stays on the now reduced 16:9. How do you have it set up before beginning the steps? Is your projector zoomed out for 2:35 video? Thanks
I’ve now managed to get it working though not fully sure on the reason. If I tried it after a factory reset the steps don’t work but if I load previous settings (presumably from the previous owner) the steps now work. Maybe it recalls a newer version of the software?! Anyway, thanks for your useful guide :-)
Awesome Post BrolicBeast, I have a SI Solar4K HD screen 160" 235:1, Sony hw50es and I just purchased my Radiance Mini3d.. my firmware came ver. 10.. it say in the tips of Lumagen, I need ver 11 to get 235:1 from 16:9 is that true? also if I update the latest firmware any kinks? So what your saying here is I should set 235:1 to 240:1?
so let me get this straight this freakin box is MAGIC! will the only other option on the market do this? the DVDO line of VP's? I can believe you can do this with no information loss at all it seems impossible! So can you just clear up 1 question? you DO NOT have a panaromic lens with this right?
@@BrolicBeast hmm who is it for? it definitely degrades the photo, it definitely causes loss of information and it definitely loses you light.. ! Is it just for casual users who have spent loads of money on a lumagen and good projector but dont care about PQ and would rather not have to wait 5 seconds for lens memory ?
Greetings! That is quite true--once you go anamorphic, any 16x9 images won't fill the screen. This solution truly is the best of both worlds! I lose no picture quality and no light from the projector at all.
Greetings! I have the Lumagen Radiance right before the projector in the signal chain. I connect the Oppo to Input 1 on the Lumagen, and I connect everything else to the Integra, which I then connect the Integra to Input 2 on the Lumagen. Not much processing happens with the Oppo becasue I don't own any DVDs, but in the rare instance where I do see a DVD that somebody brings over, the Lumagen works its magic!
Thank you for showing the world how to complete this task! You're the best
Greetings! You can set the Aspect Ratio to either of those if you desire. The Lumagen does the math, so whatever aspect ratio you select will be properly conveyed. Scale Bias can be on or off--it's a personal preference thing.
So... this setup mean that you have the projector set up to constantly project to the full 2.35:1 width i.e. the projector is zoomed out so the black bars are above and below the 2.35:1 screen. And then when in 2.35:1 mode the lumagen doesn't have to do anything to the 2.35 video sent to projector (like as if it wasn't there) and in 16:9 mode it is basically scaling down the full 16:9 image so it fits in middle of 2.35:1 rectangle. Doesn't this mean you are not getting full 16:9 resolution?
yup so ur constantly losing light. I'd rather use lens memory than constantly lose light for 16:9.
Yes it will work for both 3D and gaming. I have used in both COD: Black Ops snd Crysis 2. This is definitely the Mini 3D.
Scale Bias can be on or off. It's best to turn it off if most of your sources match the projector's resolution (1080p blu ray-1080p source) but if you watch a lot of, say, TV at 720p or 1080i, then I'd suggest turning it on.
Very helpful video. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!!
Thanks Neodestro! I do play PC games on it, although not as often as I used to.
It is certainly possible. For this, you don't have to do anything but do two steps even at factory settings: 1) Press the 2.35 button, and 2) click NLS. The Lumagen will stretch the picture. It's only obvious if you're looking for it, or watching very familiar material like a favorite movie. ((the brain gets used to seeing things a certain way) Even then, it's only subtle.
This is the Logitech Harmony 1100, but this will work with any Universal remote that's programmable. It also, of course, works with the remote that Lumagen includes.
I am planning to get the DVDO VP50 (much cheaper choice for me right now) I was wondering if it will haev the same features as the lumagen. It does mention that it does CIS and NLS and it also does electronic masking. just wondering if it will be like this...
Do u know if any projector does vertical strech when 3D is enabled cuz on mine its grey out cant be done on it when 3d is on i need a solution for this need the vertical stretch in 3d mode if u know of any projectors blu-ray players or video processors let me know if u have done this and tested it out the new avatar movie came out in 3d in 60fps thats the way 3d should be enjoyed
Great Vid. Pretty sure Avatar was shown in cinemas 16:9 IMAX though.
Does the Non Linear Stretch work the same on a Lumagen HDQ?
Thanks.
Using the Calman, you could definitely just calibrate the Lumagen. It's calibration potential is far greater than that of the RS45 itself.
You would input 240 instead of 235 in the lumagen's output menu
The remote that comes with the Lumagen can certainly change the aspect ratio.
You're quite welcome. I'm glad it was helpful.
No problemo, and thanks for the kind words!
Yes sir! The box is indeed magic, bro!!! Nope, No anamorphic lens is being used!
Yes indeed, This video was shot using the Radiance Mini.
on 4:07 its automatically preselected depending what selection you make from remote, when you'll be watching movie and in remote select 2.35 it will be selected in that menu here as well, so you a bit wrong by saying "do not set 2.35" you actually cannot preselect from that menu it is showing currently selected input, but you'll have to switch bias off for 16:9 and 2.35:1
Can u stretch just the top and bottom on a 2.35.1 movie with this lumagen then use a anamorphic lens to correct the image
Yes absolutely!
Damn you just gave me hope. So you're saying this lumagen can work with any type of projector? I have an epson 8350. Would I be able to project it on 2:35:1 aspect off this native 16:9 1080p projector without and loss of picture quality?. Also, I did research getting something like this ranges anywhere from 1500-3000 depending on model. What would stop me from just upgrading this to a capable projector. I know my projector is pretty dated and there are better pj now. However getting will I also be able to view video 3d as well? Thanks for posting your video.
Thanks for the reply. I saw in the video that you mention that you where going to calibrate the lumagen and your projector. I was wondering how will you do it because i live in the dominican republic and over here we don't have ISF calibrator so i was looking at some calibration softwares and one that caught my eye was the Calman automated calibration software. With both the Lumagen And JVS RS45 that software can do the calibration automatically since i don't know much about calibration.
BrolicBeast
how did you connect the Lumagen radiance. I saw in other videos that you have a Integra Processor, Oppo 95, xbox ,ps3 and your cable tv box. Do you connect everything to the Integra processor then you connect to the Lumagen Radiance and then to the projector? if thats the case do you let the Oppo 95 do everything like up-convert or deinterlace DvD's or do you set the Oppo 95 to pass-through so the Lumagen Radiance do all the work. Sorry for all the rookie questions.
hey BrolicBeast
that was pretty cool. I was planning to get a anamorphic lens for the projector i'm saving to getto play 2.35 on a 2.35 screen but i was reading that when i watch 16:9 content I have to remove the lens and the picture won't fill the whole screen. That i have to Mask the sides of the screen and that would cost me more. With your set up i see that a can save money and get the best of everything. Do you lose any picture quality or lose any light from the projector?
I have a RS6710 on order and I am planning to hookup a radiance mini3d int he chain to project to my 120" SI BD 1.4 screen. Are you available on any kind of messenger to help a noob out on how to have the lumagen scale any kind of output to fill the full 2.35 screen?
Video Sources will be Oppo BDP-103D, HTPC, PS3
Reciever is a Denon AVR-X4000.
Great video but I am pulling my hair out confused as to how to get all this setup.
Hey i am planning to get one video processor..but the lumagen is too expensive..can you recommend other cheap video processors that could do 16:9 to 2:35:1 and nls stretching etc..?
you can definitely see the top and bottom of screen is cut in the gaming example.
Will this device get rid of the black bars when zooming, or do you still get overspill of the black bars, or as asked by Rob Mclaine, Will doing this also eliminate the black bar over spill that you get when zooming, or do you still get overspill of the black bars?
Is this worth getting to use with an epson 8350? Contemplating an upgrade however if this is the way to go as far as getting 2:35:1. Only issue I have with my projector is the fast motion blur it has. Your opinion would be appreciated on the performance of this video processor
My question is do i calibrate the projector first using the Calman software then calibrate the lumagen or should i calibrate the Lumagen only since i'm connecting everything to it?
Will doing this also eliminate the black bar over spill that you get when zooming, or do you still get overspill of the black bars?
With NLS stretching the 16:9 content onto 2.35:1 screen you loos 12% of information from top and bottom and it is clearly seen in your video, its not perfect solution but acceptable at many cases.
Not with a anamorphic lens im useing one now to stretch all my 16:9 content no loss in picture is a pure stretch and doesn't look bad looks cool
And I think with the new nls or update u dont lose no more image I think u can tweak the settings on it
Hi, am trying to get this to work for me (just bought a second hand luminance processor but though I follow the steps, once saved it still doesn’t switch between aspect ratios, it stays on the now reduced 16:9. How do you have it set up before beginning the steps? Is your projector zoomed out for 2:35 video? Thanks
I’ve now managed to get it working though not fully sure on the reason. If I tried it after a factory reset the steps don’t work but if I load previous settings (presumably from the previous owner) the steps now work. Maybe it recalls a newer version of the software?! Anyway, thanks for your useful guide :-)
Hey, you are very welcome.
Awesome Post BrolicBeast, I have a SI Solar4K HD screen 160" 235:1, Sony hw50es and I just purchased my Radiance Mini3d.. my firmware came ver. 10.. it say in the tips of Lumagen, I need ver 11 to get 235:1 from 16:9 is that true? also if I update the latest firmware any kinks? So what your saying here is I should set 235:1 to 240:1?
Hey!! one thing you dont mention though that this would defo lesson the picture qulaity though ?
Yes indeed!!!
Can i do this with the Luminance Radiance Mini?
All im looking for is the NLS option.
What model, what the cost, whete u get it from? Do they have a newer model i should be looking at?
so let me get this straight this freakin box is MAGIC! will the only other option on the market do this? the DVDO line of VP's? I can believe you can do this with no information loss at all it seems impossible! So can you just clear up 1 question? you DO NOT have a panaromic lens with this right?
Would the new Radiance 2020 be able to do all this ?
that is nice Projector
nice 3840x2160 Pixels resolution
you play PC games in the Projector ???
hi there, what remote is that? thank you!
what size screen are you using
Hi there, what model is this unit?
+Dwaynejc77 Does it support 4K UHD?
i am confused. i can tell pretty easily with NLS engaged. lol.
NLS is not for everyone!
@@BrolicBeast hmm who is it for? it definitely degrades the photo, it definitely causes loss of information and it definitely loses you light.. ! Is it just for casual users who have spent loads of money on a lumagen and good projector but dont care about PQ and would rather not have to wait 5 seconds for lens memory ?
@@BrolicBeast or is it more for those films which switch aspect ratio annoyingly ?
What game is that? :)
Hey there, it's Killzone 3!
120" screen.