It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
@@allenmynatt9571 He was in what I always thought of as "the second roound". In many of his fights he would take allot of shots in the beginning as he tried to get position. He would throw a few shots but was concentratimng on getting into position. He also took alot of shots during that time but when he got set and started unloading it was all Probert. They let them fight earlier in his career but as time passed, the linesment started jumping in sooner.
It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
@@ghytgb For every Ex-NHL enforcer complaining about concussions there are 50 that say it all overblown just like everything else today the left gets their hand on! You go into sport knowing the dangers, so don't complain when they come around!! Be a man for god sakes! There are many more people that get injured doing heavy labor for next of no wages, no one holds a tag day for them!
Back when coaches didn't have a problem with their players jumping in to protect their stars, even if it resulted in getting kicked out of the game. Today? Roenick would have gotten his ass kicked and the coach would have been all "hey, we got 5 minutes in powerplay time!" This is the true problem with the game today. Coaches emphasizing getting every short-term edge possible to the detriment of team building.
It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
lol at JR at about 2:55 just that look on his face like he can't believe Probert is starting shit with him and then says "fuck you!" and drops his gloves. He's lucky it got broken up before he caught a beating but you have to give him props he didn't back down from the baddest dude around at the time. JR talked a lot of shit but I love the way he played the game.
Roenick fought Probert on a number of occasions and he held his own just fine. Roenick was one of the exceptionally few elite level players that never shied away from fighting.
It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
Guess that is why Probert scored 20 or more goals twice (with 29...15 powerplay goals, in 87-88). Only played for shit when he played for that shit team, the Blackhawks.
Probert just pawed at him. If he'd wanted to hurt him he would glided forward a foot or two and threw bombs. Make no mistake there's no world where Probert doesn't mangle Roenick anytime he wants if he weren't busy creating and following the code. I hated Probert when he played but being,able to go back and watch without bias I see that he easily holds the re ord for the most punches held back when he landed and hurt his opponent, when his opponent wasn't in his league, or turtled(which they almost always did if he got his right free) or turned away or were on the ground or any other vulnerable position. Had he been the one in all those vulnerable positions in that era he'd not have played long. I can't imagine how good he would've been if he wasn't such a calm, mild mannered person.he really struggledtoget up for alot of fights. You can learn see when he was motivated by team responsibility. If it were just someone wanted an ego fight or they wanted to make a name for themselves he wasn't very motivated. If you go back and watch a bunch of his fights it becomes pretty obvious when he really wanted to win and when he just wasn't in it. He won most of the fights he wasn't motivated for but he was pretty well unbeatable when it was for his team. Remember the coward Kevin Maguirre? He tries to beat up Stevie Y and literally lands zero punches but then cowers when its time to pay for it. I would rather have my head blown off than do that. How could you ever show your face as a supposed enforcer after that? He was really motivated but couldn't do much. That was the angriest by far I'd ever seen him. He punches Barrasso when he tried to stop him so Barrasso just backs up and Housley comes over and sees what happened to Barrasso and decides he'll find something to do as far away from Probert as possible. Nobody from the Sabres would even lay a finger on him as he waited for Maguirte. This may be extreme but if he'd kicked Maguirre in the face with his skate it would've been an appropriate punishment. Not just for trying to beat Stevie but for not answering the bell after. Everybody knows if tough guy tires to take out a top skill guy he's gotta answer at the first chance. If you don't ya end up with McSorlyey on the pathetic coward Brashear. Or Steve Moore. All guys not answering the bell.
Yzerman came after Maguire, and Maguire put him down. Simple as that. Roenick went after Probert and would've gotten the same treatment had the linesmen not intervened.
Not always true. Look at the Hawks. They had Stu Grimson and many many other great tough guys and never won it and then look at the Hawks team roster for their last three cups. Pens don't have a tough guy and they won two straight! When Detroit won their last four cups they did not have a tough team. At least no where near the toughest in the league. Russians and Sweds!
People love watching people physically abuse each other and then ignore the dark side of it. Probert is dead as is so many more that filled that similar role. The concussions catch up with you and it becomes a very difficult, lonely world. Glad the NHL is looking out for the players after all of the sad stories of suicide, drug and alcohol addiction, jail time and mental issues.
While it was determined that Probert had CTE after his death. He died of a heart attack, caused by his unwillingness to get checked out and genetics. His wife said in an interview that he hadn’t been looking well for weeks and refused to go to the doctor, and his father died of a heart attack in his 50s.
I agree, and as a Wings native, always had a LOT of respect for Roenick and his Coyotes. They had seasons where they were on fire every period of every game. But...I'm glad this didn't turn into an actual fight for Jeremy's sake.
Roenick, NHL 93, is the strongest video game character ever.
Good memory!
Tecmo Bowl Bo Jackson disagrees but JR was beastly in that game, for sure.
Always made sure to put Grimson into the lineup too for the 85 fighting!
Loved the tandem of Thorne and Clement.
It's a crime that they don't do games anymore. What a shame. They were fantastic together!
Absolutely 💯 my two favorite
Me too!
Hockey was SO good back then! It will NEVER be that good again!! They've basically banned fighting & scoring is WAY down from the glory days!
Yeah. Those were the good old days when fans found it entertaining watching players kill each other one punch at a time. RIP Bob Probert.
It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
@@ghytgb NO WAY dude. Sure it may be safer today but it was WAY more entertaining back then! The game is nowhere NEAR as exciting as 1980 to 1995!
@@ghytgb protecting players one $5000 fine at a time
@@konobuzoggu239 If the players are safer but nobody watches… trophies for everyone!
I’m so happy I got to watch Red Wings hockey growing up. If I was a kid today, the soft nhl would never have appealed to me.
Ditto Yzerman was my hero. Miss them in the western conference!
Couldn't of said it any better, the NHL of today blows, it sucks it became a very sad sport to watch
chevyxrz don’t watch it than
Scotty Bowman!!
Hockey is great today. Less suicides and drug addictions from unchecked concussions. Glad they changed the game for the players health.
Probert "older brothered" Roenick. Those missed punches were just warning shots.
My Brother used to beat the snot out of me ! Like a stranger! Like I stole from him!
Probert was very classy with Roenick and Chelios when they thought they could fight him. Imagine if he'd done to them what Kocur did to Dalgarno.
Probert was never very accurate with his shots though was he?
@@allenmynatt9571 He was in what I always thought of as "the second roound". In many of his fights he would take allot of shots in the beginning as he tried to get position. He would throw a few shots but was concentratimng on getting into position. He also took alot of shots during that time but when he got set and started unloading it was all Probert. They let them fight earlier in his career but as time passed, the linesment started jumping in sooner.
@@vanhattfield8292 For sure. Probert got better and batter as the fight progressed.
Hockey will never be the same without the bruise brothers and their couple of sides kicks
I remember this like it was yesterday. Oh those games at the Joe 👍💥
This scrum actually began to evolve in the first few minutes of the game
Back when emotion was a BIG part of the game, today the men have been neutered the game is SO boring.
Very true
It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
@@ghytgb For every Ex-NHL enforcer complaining about concussions there are 50 that say it all overblown just like everything else today the left gets their hand on! You go into sport knowing the dangers, so don't complain when they come around!! Be a man for god sakes! There are many more people that get injured doing heavy labor for next of no wages, no one holds a tag day for them!
Man Roenick is so lucky the linesman came in
Two years later, Probes and Roenick would be teammates. :D
Probert would have destroyed that kid. Jeramy was a great hockey player but Bob would have torn him up.
McCarty and Probert on the ice at the same time, hell on earth for opponents
Remember watching this game. Jeremy was so fortunate those punches didn't land. He was way outta his league there.
Back when coaches didn't have a problem with their players jumping in to protect their stars, even if it resulted in getting kicked out of the game. Today? Roenick would have gotten his ass kicked and the coach would have been all "hey, we got 5 minutes in powerplay time!" This is the true problem with the game today. Coaches emphasizing getting every short-term edge possible to the detriment of team building.
Used to be greatest league in the world; now an embarrassment... glorified figure-skating.
Well said Leafsdude. Everything's about the short term effect these days..
@Leafsdude I couldn't have said it any better.
It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
lol at JR at about 2:55 just that look on his face like he can't believe Probert is starting shit with him and then says "fuck you!" and drops his gloves. He's lucky it got broken up before he caught a beating but you have to give him props he didn't back down from the baddest dude around at the time. JR talked a lot of shit but I love the way he played the game.
As a Wing...would've LOVED to have JR on our team. He was a beauty.
Roenick fought Probert on a number of occasions and he held his own just fine. Roenick was one of the exceptionally few elite level players that never shied away from fighting.
Johnny Vincent Meh. Had him in my cab once. Mediocre tipper. Good player, though.
@@joeschmo2693 lol nice
Underatted rivalry around this era and the up into the late 2000's when both teams were good.
Jeremy Roenick not a coward
Is McCart wearing a Macho Man Randy Savage shirt?
3:04 - two of those three guys in the box are no longer with us.
I'm not the only one thinking THIS
@tony tony Steve chiasson passed away drunk driving. Back in the late 90s I think
It’s better today. The nhl is trying to protect players from concussions that lead to drug and alcohol addiction, suicide and jail. I’m all for safety. The nhl before 2005 was a violent sport with no concerns for the players health. When’s the last time you had 30 fights in a year and took pain killers every day? Would you want a member of your family to go through that?
Bad camera work here. No one wants to see the players on the bench. Give us a front row seat to where the action is.
Not the camera guy’s fault; blame the dumb ass producer. He calls what camera shots to air.
Murphy homeless in Ontario.
Joe. In the COLD
Bob Probert is God.
What was that shirt McCarty was wearing? Randy Savage?
I think is Savage Garden
way to man up Jeremy!!
Yeah if only he had manned up in the playoffs....LOL
Don’t think you’re gonna hit Bob and get away with it. I don’t care how clean it was.
probie would of KO'd Roenick if he had of connected with those 2 bombs
Guess that is why Probert scored 20 or more goals twice (with 29...15 powerplay goals, in 87-88). Only played for shit when he played for that shit team, the Blackhawks.
fuzzy cordle Is that why Probert broke Gordie Howe’s single season playoff scoring record ? Lack of skill ?
Frank Musil was strong too
Probert just pawed at him. If he'd wanted to hurt him he would glided forward a foot or two and threw bombs. Make no mistake there's no world where Probert doesn't mangle Roenick anytime he wants if he weren't busy creating and following the code. I hated Probert when he played but being,able to go back and watch without bias I see that he easily holds the re ord for the most punches held back when he landed and hurt his opponent, when his opponent wasn't in his league, or turtled(which they almost always did if he got his right free) or turned away or were on the ground or any other vulnerable position. Had he been the one in all those vulnerable positions in that era he'd not have played long. I can't imagine how good he would've been if he wasn't such a calm, mild mannered person.he really struggledtoget up for alot of fights. You can learn see when he was motivated by team responsibility. If it were just someone wanted an ego fight or they wanted to make a name for themselves he wasn't very motivated. If you go back and watch a bunch of his fights it becomes pretty obvious when he really wanted to win and when he just wasn't in it. He won most of the fights he wasn't motivated for but he was pretty well unbeatable when it was for his team. Remember the coward Kevin Maguirre? He tries to beat up Stevie Y and literally lands zero punches but then cowers when its time to pay for it. I would rather have my head blown off than do that. How could you ever show your face as a supposed enforcer after that? He was really motivated but couldn't do much. That was the angriest by far I'd ever seen him. He punches Barrasso when he tried to stop him so Barrasso just backs up and Housley comes over and sees what happened to Barrasso and decides he'll find something to do as far away from Probert as possible. Nobody from the Sabres would even lay a finger on him as he waited for Maguirte. This may be extreme but if he'd kicked Maguirre in the face with his skate it would've been an appropriate punishment. Not just for trying to beat Stevie but for not answering the bell after. Everybody knows if tough guy tires to take out a top skill guy he's gotta answer at the first chance. If you don't ya end up with McSorlyey on the pathetic coward Brashear. Or Steve Moore. All guys not answering the bell.
Yzerman came after Maguire, and Maguire put him down. Simple as that. Roenick went after Probert and would've gotten the same treatment had the linesmen not intervened.
Wild some,like animals
in hockey...toughness wins championships.
Not always true. Look at the Hawks. They had Stu Grimson and many many other great tough guys and never won it and then look at the Hawks team roster for their last three cups. Pens don't have a tough guy and they won two straight! When Detroit won their last four cups they did not have a tough team. At least no where near the toughest in the league. Russians and Sweds!
Roenick somking that night he would have gotten annihilated
Probert let him know,dont screw around woud of killed him if he started throwing them.
People love watching people physically abuse each other and then ignore the dark side of it. Probert is dead as is so many more that filled that similar role. The concussions catch up with you and it becomes a very difficult, lonely world. Glad the NHL is looking out for the players after all of the sad stories of suicide, drug and alcohol addiction, jail time and mental issues.
While it was determined that Probert had CTE after his death. He died of a heart attack, caused by his unwillingness to get checked out and genetics. His wife said in an interview that he hadn’t been looking well for weeks and refused to go to the doctor, and his father died of a heart attack in his 50s.
Probert attacks Jeremy cuz he can’t take a hit. Probbie played cheap but couldn’t take a clean hit.
I was 6 years old and at this game
No, you weren't.
Man I hated Darren McCarty. Loathed.
Well he's broke as......
Roenick is awesome ! Probert was a knucklehead pretty useless other then fighting , Later teammates and friends .
PROBERT🔥🔥🔥🔥🦾
JR was always a punk
Yup..and he still is Jeff
Joe Murphy that bust
Being 3rd man in is a cowardly move in my opinion.
Darren actually turtled! ROTFLMAO
Lol, still butthurt over DMac shitkicking Lemeuix...twice?
Roenick wasn't scared of shit.
I agree, and as a Wings native, always had a LOT of respect for Roenick and his Coyotes. They had seasons where they were on fire every period of every game. But...I'm glad this didn't turn into an actual fight for Jeremy's sake.
Jeremy Roenick not a coward
Jeremy Roenick not a coward
Shitcago sks dk.